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FanTaSy retires, joins Sandbox as LoL coach

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Alejandrisha
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
United States6565 Posts
November 20 2019 10:38 GMT
#73
On November 20 2019 19:38 Qikz wrote:
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On November 20 2019 19:37 Alejandrisha wrote:
towards the end of his career, he was one of those players who was always in the top 15-20 players in the world (it felt; be free to correct me). and pretty much has nothing to show for it. sad that he never had that breakthrough moment. gl


He finished BW in the Number 1 ELO spot

i'm not talking about his bw career!! nooo. im talking recent fantasy not fantasy prime.
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AntiHack
Profile Joined January 2009
Switzerland553 Posts
November 20 2019 11:58 GMT
#74
Where the money goes I guess
"I am very tired of your grammar errors" - Zoler[MB]
kaby
Profile Joined July 2010
Russian Federation195 Posts
November 20 2019 12:33 GMT
#75
A perfect game choice for FanTaSy: they never surrender if the nexus is still standing
WombaT
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Northern Ireland26265 Posts
November 20 2019 13:18 GMT
#76
On November 20 2019 19:29 raptor11234 wrote:
korizon.net

Says here he joined as a sort of wellbeing and psychological coach:

"Sandbox explained that Fantasy will be “strengthening and taking care of players’ mentalities”."

Yeah that makes a lot more sense. More of a mentor/management role for guys like Fantasy makes a lot more sense than recruiting SC players to strategise.
'You'll always be the cuddly marsupial of my heart, despite the inherent flaws of your ancestry' - Squat
WombaT
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Northern Ireland26265 Posts
November 20 2019 13:20 GMT
#77
On November 20 2019 19:37 Alejandrisha wrote:
towards the end of his career, he was one of those players who was always in the top 15-20 players in the world (it felt; be free to correct me). and pretty much has nothing to show for it. sad that he never had that breakthrough moment. gl

It’s a shame, I felt he was consistently getting better and would have had some deep runs this year. Was excited both to see a legend conquer another game plus stylistically I enjoyed his approach to the game.

Oh well, with Fantasy and Gumigod gone we need a resurgent Taeja or Dream to hopefully bring the pain this year.
'You'll always be the cuddly marsupial of my heart, despite the inherent flaws of your ancestry' - Squat
evilfatsh1t
Profile Joined October 2010
Australia8808 Posts
Last Edited: 2019-11-20 13:50:50
November 20 2019 13:50 GMT
#78
On November 20 2019 18:56 hitthat wrote:
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On November 20 2019 17:54 Chris_Havoc wrote:
Fantasy isnt the first to switch from StarCraft player to LoL coaching. Several others have done it previously such as FruitDealer, StarDust, Violet & iloveoov just to name a few.


And yet, after all this years of oov "transformation", I still cannot understand this. I tried to rationalized that as a form of a retirement for accomplished players that e-sport industry encourage for preventing a stereotype that "professional e-sport will ruin your later life", but even that had so much logic holes that doesn't fit as an explanation.

theres more to coaching than just gameplay strategy. i highly doubt fantasy would be involved in much in-game related things like analysis, feedback, drafting etc.
there are a lot of things players need outside of the game which fantasy would have much experience and knowledge with, not as a coach but as a player himself. coming from skt would be especially valuable i assume, given the teams' success in not just lol but starcraft as well
Justinian
Profile Joined August 2012
United Kingdom158 Posts
November 20 2019 14:45 GMT
#79
Such a shame, one of my favourite players. He was looking pretty good lately too, and with all the other retirements I thought he'd do well in 2020. Unless he knows something we don't about GSL.

His decision to return to SC2 after the military was actually a bit surprising in terms of his own personal prospects (given his bigger fanbase in BW - or he could have left esports altogether). However, the decision to leave SC2 now to coach a totally different game, when several of his competitors in Korea are leaving for military service, his form is good and his race will hopefully have better prospects in 2020, also seems a strange one to me.
konadora *
Profile Blog Joined February 2009
Singapore66358 Posts
November 20 2019 15:49 GMT
#80
so he'll gg out of SC2 in 3 years?
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Waxangel
Profile Blog Joined September 2002
United States33559 Posts
Last Edited: 2019-11-20 19:36:07
November 20 2019 19:35 GMT
#81
I guess the SC2 community members who haven't followed other esports may be surprised by it, but it's very common for ex-pros from other games to coach new games in LoL (at least in Korea). I can't speak to whether or not this is actually effective, but all I can say is that it's a very common practice. Just among the SC2 players we know, Stardust has been coaching lol for a few years now, while MMA has been coaching Overwatch for a year.
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MotherOfRunes
Profile Joined December 2010
Germany2862 Posts
November 20 2019 23:38 GMT
#82
Was hoping to see him back in BW one day....good luck to him anyway in his new adventure.
"Your Razor sucks!" -Kuroky's Dad
SC3:UED Returns
Profile Joined November 2019
7 Posts
November 23 2019 09:40 GMT
#83
Fantasy GG Timing
kogeT
Profile Joined September 2013
Poland2041 Posts
Last Edited: 2019-11-23 15:52:52
November 23 2019 15:52 GMT
#84
I struggle understanding him, there is no way he'll make more money or have a bigger fan base anywhere else than in BW. Curious what is his long term plan..
https://www.twitch.tv/kogetbw
evilfatsh1t
Profile Joined October 2010
Australia8808 Posts
November 23 2019 16:47 GMT
#85
whats so hard to understand about a guy who wants to make an honest living instead of "selling" himself on stream in the hopes that people throw money at him?
Morbidius
Profile Joined November 2010
Brazil3449 Posts
Last Edited: 2019-11-23 17:23:20
November 23 2019 17:22 GMT
#86
On November 21 2019 04:35 Waxangel wrote:
I guess the SC2 community members who haven't followed other esports may be surprised by it, but it's very common for ex-pros from other games to coach new games in LoL (at least in Korea). I can't speak to whether or not this is actually effective, but all I can say is that it's a very common practice. Just among the SC2 players we know, Stardust has been coaching lol for a few years now, while MMA has been coaching Overwatch for a year.

I'm just surprised he turned down the Afreeca money, seems easier (maybe more lucrative too?) than coaching another game, i have no doubts he would be among the top streamers. All i heard about Fantasy's work ethic in BW is phenomenal, guys at T1 said he was the first to wake up and play and the last one to go to sleep.
Has foreign StarCraft hit rock bottom?
WombaT
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Northern Ireland26265 Posts
November 23 2019 19:00 GMT
#87
Maybe Fantasy is burnt out on Brood War or wants to conquer something new? Think that was his given rationale for going back to SC2 after he did his military service
'You'll always be the cuddly marsupial of my heart, despite the inherent flaws of your ancestry' - Squat
True_Spike
Profile Joined July 2004
Poland3426 Posts
November 24 2019 01:25 GMT
#88
brickrd
Profile Blog Joined March 2014
United States4894 Posts
November 24 2019 01:55 GMT
#89
On November 24 2019 01:47 evilfatsh1t wrote:
whats so hard to understand about a guy who wants to make an honest living instead of "selling" himself on stream in the hopes that people throw money at him?

sc fans are weirdos who feel like they "own" the players, so whenever players make a decision there's some dude posting on here about "well what he should have done to make more money is blah blah blah blah" like their opinion actually matters to an adult person who has their own goals and interests
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WombaT
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Northern Ireland26265 Posts
November 24 2019 02:54 GMT
#90
On November 24 2019 10:55 brickrd wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 24 2019 01:47 evilfatsh1t wrote:
whats so hard to understand about a guy who wants to make an honest living instead of "selling" himself on stream in the hopes that people throw money at him?

sc fans are weirdos who feel like they "own" the players, so whenever players make a decision there's some dude posting on here about "well what he should have done to make more money is blah blah blah blah" like their opinion actually matters to an adult person who has their own goals and interests

Stop talking sense dagnabbit
'You'll always be the cuddly marsupial of my heart, despite the inherent flaws of your ancestry' - Squat
BeaSteR
Profile Joined May 2009
Sweden328 Posts
November 25 2019 13:11 GMT
#91
So sad to see my all time favorite BW player leave the Starcraft scene completely, even though he wasn't playing BW the last few years I still had some hope that he would come back.
Greed is good
Alejandrisha
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
United States6565 Posts
December 05 2019 06:35 GMT
#92
On November 24 2019 10:25 True_Spike wrote:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kM5_We_C8kg


On November 21 2019 00:49 konadora wrote:
so he'll gg out of SC2 in 3 years?


lololol <3 fantajii
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