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Hello moderators,
I m creating a poll concerning Nydus and his proposed change by Blizzard about duration between summoning. It s only to ask opinions from members, but as it comes from Blizzard I feel right without explications ? isn t it ?
Hello from France, members,
I don t want to create a thread with bullshit discussion around nydus, so please doesn t answer to the post, i just wanna know how much this proposal is great, and if it could be changed before Blizzcon.
Poll: Summon Nydus Worm ability cooldown increased from 0 to 14Urgently needed, before Blizzcon ! (238) 26% Let s wait and see, after Blizzcon (79) 9% It s no necessary ! Never (584) 65% 901 total votes Your vote: Summon Nydus Worm ability cooldown increased from 0 to 14 (Vote): Urgently needed, before Blizzcon !
(Vote): Let s wait and see, after Blizzcon
(Vote): It s no necessary ! Never
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A patch before the biggest tournament of the year? No way.
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give serral his 2x blizzcon and then do it imo
although he prly would even with the change LUL
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It s not adress to only the best Zerg...
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lol the finals start in 2 weeks.
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imo they should have done it a while ago but now it's too late
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On October 10 2019 04:54 Anc13nt wrote:
imo they should have done it a while ago but now it's too late
Yes, exactly that.
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Increase the cost as well. I was thinking all this time (i play toss primarily) that the nydus cost somewhere around 150-200 minerals and that a zerg spamming it would eventually spend so much money that he would be in a big deficit if he didn't get much damage done . I only found out recently that it actually costs 50 mins 50 gas. Absolutely incredible it made its way into the game in this state. It's basically free, and can be spammed with 0 cooldown. Not usually very vocal about balance because I generally think its fine, but nydus is downright retarded in it's current state. Shame on the balance crew for letting this into the game.
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14 seconds? Seems a bit too long. That's a long time in SC2
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Bisutopia19368 Posts
Does Serral even nydus that much in non-ZvZ. He definitely uses it, but he has a pretty wide range of plays that he uses. Just curious if it would have that much of an effect on him since he is so good all around.
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Bisutopia19368 Posts
On October 10 2019 08:19 TentativePanda wrote:
14 seconds? Seems a bit too long. That's a long time in SC2
Its zero seconds if your first nydus worm completes. 14 is if the worm starts to form and 5 preemptive nukes hit that exact spot as it emerges. (Correct me if I am wrong please)
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I would not endorse a patch before Blizcon. Let the tournament run on what people have been practicing. Pre tournament patches are not a good idea. Look at LCS (league of legends esports) They used to do a big patch right before worlds evrey year leading to ocasionaly broken game states being on the biggest stage their game has.
Id rather except the broken game state we currently have and maintain the competitive integrity of Blizcon.
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On October 10 2019 08:31 BisuDagger wrote:Show nested quote +On October 10 2019 08:19 TentativePanda wrote:
14 seconds? Seems a bit too long. That's a long time in SC2 Its zero seconds if your first nydus worm completes. 14 is is the worm starts to form and 5 preemptive nukes hit that exact spot as it emerges. (Correct me if I am wrong please)
You are correct as far as my understanding is. The cooldown starts immediately. If the worm completes, there is no change between now and post patch. If it gets killed early, there will be x amount of seconds before it can be recast.
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On October 10 2019 08:52 washikie wrote:
I would not endorse a patch before Blizcon. Let the tournament run on what people have been practicing. Pre tournament patches are not a good idea. Look at LCS (league of legends esports) They used to do a big patch right before worlds evrey year leading to ocasionaly broken game states being on the biggest stage their game has.
Id rather except the broken game state we currently have and maintain the competitive integrity of Blizcon.
It s not as you re changing everything right ?
Then, AlphaStar should probably use this ability too many times...
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France12974 Posts
On October 10 2019 08:52 washikie wrote:
I would not endorse a patch before Blizcon. Let the tournament run on what people have been practicing. Pre tournament patches are not a good idea. Look at LCS (league of legends esports) They used to do a big patch right before worlds evrey year leading to ocasionaly broken game states being on the biggest stage their game has.
Id rather except the broken game state we currently have and maintain the competitive integrity of Blizcon.
Yeah I watched LCS a lot in 2015 as well as the worlds and their right before Worlds patch was downright stupid, with the broken Gangplank and one side (it matters for picks and bans) having a way better winrate than the other. This and the pink ward "bug" that made fnatic lose against the koreans.
Having a patch right before the biggest tournament of the world is a bad idea, and they won't do it. BUT they should have acted on some things before imho. We'll have to see how it unfolds at BlizzCon but I sure hope it won't be a ZvZ finals.
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On October 11 2019 01:11 Poopi wrote:Show nested quote +On October 10 2019 08:52 washikie wrote:
I would not endorse a patch before Blizcon. Let the tournament run on what people have been practicing. Pre tournament patches are not a good idea. Look at LCS (league of legends esports) They used to do a big patch right before worlds evrey year leading to ocasionaly broken game states being on the biggest stage their game has.
Id rather except the broken game state we currently have and maintain the competitive integrity of Blizcon. I sure hope it won't be a ZvZ finals.
Better hope Dark, Rogue, and Serral end up on the same side of the bracket. I don't see any of the current protoss or terran beating them.
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On October 11 2019 02:45 Fango wrote:Show nested quote +On October 11 2019 01:11 Poopi wrote:On October 10 2019 08:52 washikie wrote:
I would not endorse a patch before Blizcon. Let the tournament run on what people have been practicing. Pre tournament patches are not a good idea. Look at LCS (league of legends esports) They used to do a big patch right before worlds evrey year leading to ocasionaly broken game states being on the biggest stage their game has.
Id rather except the broken game state we currently have and maintain the competitive integrity of Blizcon. I sure hope it won't be a ZvZ finals. Better hope Dark, Rogue, and Serral end up on the same side of the bracket. I don't see any of the current protoss or terran beating them.
I dunno about Rogue. He's not shown anything substantial in the ZvT match-up like basically all year. In online cups he perpetually sucks against mech (and has done so for the past 3 years), including those his total score is 0-4, 1-8 vs TY this year, and if you disregard those, he's barely played any matches against Terran. Let alone ones he could play at Blizzcon. And just assuming he's strong because the meta favors Zerg is thin ice.
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On October 10 2019 08:53 LHK wrote:Show nested quote +On October 10 2019 08:31 BisuDagger wrote:On October 10 2019 08:19 TentativePanda wrote:
14 seconds? Seems a bit too long. That's a long time in SC2 Its zero seconds if your first nydus worm completes. 14 is is the worm starts to form and 5 preemptive nukes hit that exact spot as it emerges. (Correct me if I am wrong please) You are correct as far as my understanding is. The cooldown starts immediately. If the worm completes, there is no change between now and post patch. If it gets killed early, there will be x amount of seconds before it can be recast.
Ah ok thanks for the clarification. In that case I approve of that change as well as a decrease in unload speed
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A small zerg nerf i wouldnt mind, because i want blizzcon to be fair. Zerg in the hands of Dark and Serral is just too much.
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I dont think we should have a patch so soon to Blizzcon. Not opposed to less a zerg favored map pool though.
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