On October 10 2019 08:52 washikie wrote: I would not endorse a patch before Blizcon. Let the tournament run on what people have been practicing. Pre tournament patches are not a good idea. Look at LCS (league of legends esports) They used to do a big patch right before worlds evrey year leading to ocasionaly broken game states being on the biggest stage their game has.
Id rather except the broken game state we currently have and maintain the competitive integrity of Blizcon.
I sure hope it won't be a ZvZ finals.
Better hope Dark, Rogue, and Serral end up on the same side of the bracket. I don't see any of the current protoss or terran beating them.
I dunno about Rogue. He's not shown anything substantial in the ZvT match-up like basically all year. In online cups he perpetually sucks against mech (and has done so for the past 3 years), including those his total score is 0-4, 1-8 vs TY this year, and if you disregard those, he's barely played any matches against Terran. Let alone ones he could play at Blizzcon. And just assuming he's strong because the meta favors Zerg is thin ice.
Since start of GSL S3, where Rogues resurgence this year started, he is 14-7 against Terran. Not bad considering its historically his worst matchup by far. And who from the Blizzcon terrans can really pose a threat to top form Rogue? Only Maru, right? Even if TY went in the end, I would not bet on him to beat current Rogue. Just remember 2017 and 2018 Blizzcon and 2018 Katowice. Rogue eliminated TY in all 3.
Lol why did everything vote yes in the poll, that's just such a terrible opinion.
Nydus is definitely too strong/too cheap/too easy to execute but at this point it's not centralising the meta like it was before the original nerfs. And even if it was, it's still way too close to Blizzcon to even consider it to be a good idea. Nydus is an aspect of what makes zerg a bit too strong right now but it's not THE aspect, so to do a quick fix before Blizzcon for just the nydus would actually be so dumb and can't believe you guys think that would be a good idea.
After Blizzcon is done we can go crazy on the nerfs but a week before Blizzcon? lol
On October 14 2019 19:49 blooblooblahblah wrote: Lol why did everything vote yes in the poll, that's just such a terrible opinion.
Nydus is definitely too strong/too cheap/too easy to execute but at this point it's not centralising the meta like it was before the original nerfs. And even if it was, it's still way too close to Blizzcon to even consider it to be a good idea. Nydus is an aspect of what makes zerg a bit too strong right now but it's not THE aspect, so to do a quick fix before Blizzcon for just the nydus would actually be so dumb and can't believe you guys think that would be a good idea.
After Blizzcon is done we can go crazy on the nerfs but a week before Blizzcon? lol
The current balance is already broken and you prefer like 4 zergs are in the top 4? Since Zerg is already a little op in the late game because of broodlord + infestors, a nerf on nydus won’t make Zerg unplayable.
All fans just want a exciting Blizzcon and I personally don’t want a Reynor vs Serral final (dark Serral rogue eliminate all other races and Reynor takes Korean Zerg down)
On October 10 2019 08:52 washikie wrote: I would not endorse a patch before Blizcon. Let the tournament run on what people have been practicing. Pre tournament patches are not a good idea. Look at LCS (league of legends esports) They used to do a big patch right before worlds evrey year leading to ocasionaly broken game states being on the biggest stage their game has.
Id rather except the broken game state we currently have and maintain the competitive integrity of Blizcon.
I sure hope it won't be a ZvZ finals.
Better hope Dark, Rogue, and Serral end up on the same side of the bracket. I don't see any of the current protoss or terran beating them.
I dunno about Rogue. He's not shown anything substantial in the ZvT match-up like basically all year. In online cups he perpetually sucks against mech (and has done so for the past 3 years), including those his total score is 0-4, 1-8 vs TY this year, and if you disregard those, he's barely played any matches against Terran. Let alone ones he could play at Blizzcon. And just assuming he's strong because the meta favors Zerg is thin ice.
Rogue in late 2017 was a god against mech. Going much against him was the reason INno lost to him in that super tournament (the one without which his blizzcon run would have never happened).
It's true he's barely played ZvT this year, but Rogue is the kind who usually shows up in the big weekenders. And terran is the kind of race that doesn't.
On October 14 2019 20:23 CraigWT wrote: The current balance is already broken and you prefer like 4 zergs are in the top 4? Since Zerg is already a little op in the late game because of broodlord + infestors, a nerf on nydus won’t make Zerg unplayable.
All fans just want a exciting Blizzcon and I personally don’t want a Reynor vs Serral final (dark Serral rogue eliminate all other races and Reynor takes Korean Zerg down)
Don't know about you guys, but I'd love to see 8 zergs in top 8. And reynor vs serral is for sure one of the best grand finals possible.
On October 14 2019 19:49 blooblooblahblah wrote: Lol why did everything vote yes in the poll, that's just such a terrible opinion.
Nydus is definitely too strong/too cheap/too easy to execute but at this point it's not centralising the meta like it was before the original nerfs. And even if it was, it's still way too close to Blizzcon to even consider it to be a good idea. Nydus is an aspect of what makes zerg a bit too strong right now but it's not THE aspect, so to do a quick fix before Blizzcon for just the nydus would actually be so dumb and can't believe you guys think that would be a good idea.
After Blizzcon is done we can go crazy on the nerfs but a week before Blizzcon? lol
The current balance is already broken and you prefer like 4 zergs are in the top 4? Since Zerg is already a little op in the late game because of broodlord + infestors, a nerf on nydus won’t make Zerg unplayable.
All fans just want a exciting Blizzcon and I personally don’t want a Reynor vs Serral final (dark Serral rogue eliminate all other races and Reynor takes Korean Zerg down)
You just can't patch a game a week before Blizzcon lol, it's absurd. This change has huge implications on every matchup, but the matchup it affects the most if ZvZ lmao so you're completely compromising the results of the tournament and these pro player's lives for your own entertainment.
It's not about making zerg unplayable, changing the meta a week before blizzcon invalidates a lot of the practice that the players have been doing (again, especially in ZvZ lol). And you'll still see broodlord/infestor anyway.
EPT
