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deacon.frost
Profile Joined February 2013
Czech Republic12129 Posts
October 01 2019 15:18 GMT
#201
On October 01 2019 21:23 Wombat_NI wrote:
I mean Zerg needs retooling to be less reliant on technical spellcaster armies and just more, Zergy I guess. Least to my tastes anyway.

It is something that’s happened in SC2, Protoss are much less reliant on forcefields than they were in the days of yore, although they’re still a factor they got other options and were less reliant on it over time.


The last time they thought about it they created swarmhosts, please no?

They need to start with a decision what is queen. Whether queens are defensive units, offensive units, macro boosters, speed/vision boosters or healers. They can't be EVERYTHING at once, they cannot be the answer to almost everything. And start from there and replace some of their roles with different unit(s) and/or buildings(or their upgrades).
IMO
I imagine France should be able to take this unless Lilbow is busy practicing for Starcraft III. | KadaverBB is my fairy ban mother.
Durnuu
Profile Joined September 2013
13322 Posts
October 01 2019 16:45 GMT
#202
Mizenhauer haters in shambles
BUNNYYYYYYYYY https://i.imgur.com/BiCF577.png
Fango
Profile Joined July 2016
United Kingdom8987 Posts
October 01 2019 16:53 GMT
#203
On October 02 2019 01:45 Durnuu wrote:
Mizenhauer haters in shambles

[image loading]

User was warned for this post
Zest, sOs, PartinG, Dark, and Maru are the real champs. ROOT_herO is overrated. Snute, Serral, and Scarlett are the foreigner GOATs
Xain0n
Profile Joined November 2018
Italy3963 Posts
Last Edited: 2019-10-01 17:03:45
October 01 2019 17:03 GMT
#204
On October 02 2019 01:53 Fango wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 02 2019 01:45 Durnuu wrote:
Mizenhauer haters in shambles

[image loading]


Actually, both Rogue and Mizenhauer agree on that.
They should be on the same side!
Waxangel
Profile Blog Joined September 2002
United States33624 Posts
October 01 2019 18:37 GMT
#205
On October 02 2019 01:53 Fango wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 02 2019 01:45 Durnuu wrote:
Mizenhauer haters in shambles

[image loading]

User was warned for this post


a fair and just warning, but the prison guard will put an extra piece of cake on your meal tray
AdministratorHey HP can you redo everything youve ever done because i have a small complaint?
WombaT
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Northern Ireland26933 Posts
October 01 2019 19:17 GMT
#206
That was a rare image macro on TL that was worth the warning to post, good job Fango!
'You'll always be the cuddly marsupial of my heart, despite the inherent flaws of your ancestry' - Squat
Durnuu
Profile Joined September 2013
13322 Posts
October 01 2019 19:50 GMT
#207
Never forget that time usopsama got away freely for posting an image macro
BUNNYYYYYYYYY https://i.imgur.com/BiCF577.png
africola
Profile Joined March 2015
Germany35 Posts
October 01 2019 21:55 GMT
#208
On September 29 2019 11:33 Waxangel wrote:
I can't believe Zerg players would latch onto a minor comment about Serral to try and derail this important discussion about balance


I can't understand your point there as the discussion is long concluded and zerg 100% being nerfed in the next patch...

there is no player that honestly says Zerg is balanced right now..
So yeah. I think the most interesting is Rogue thinking he can beat Serral in a long series with macro-game. And I also think it's not true at all at the time being.
WombaT
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Northern Ireland26933 Posts
October 01 2019 22:18 GMT
#209
Where can I find the ‘Rogue is a patch Zerg’ article I’ve heard mentioned relatively frequently on this site? Never actually read it
'You'll always be the cuddly marsupial of my heart, despite the inherent flaws of your ancestry' - Squat
Nakajin
Profile Blog Joined September 2014
Canada8990 Posts
October 01 2019 22:40 GMT
#210
On October 02 2019 07:18 Wombat_NI wrote:
Where can I find the ‘Rogue is a patch Zerg’ article I’ve heard mentioned relatively frequently on this site? Never actually read it


See if you think you need to read the article you kinda missed the point.

But whatever there you go: https://tl.net/forum/starcraft-2/530039-the-emperor-has-no-clothes-rogues-future-legacy
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WombaT
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Northern Ireland26933 Posts
October 01 2019 22:46 GMT
#211
On October 02 2019 07:40 Nakajin wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 02 2019 07:18 Wombat_NI wrote:
Where can I find the ‘Rogue is a patch Zerg’ article I’ve heard mentioned relatively frequently on this site? Never actually read it


See if you think you need to read the article you kinda missed the point.

But whatever there you go: https://tl.net/forum/starcraft-2/530039-the-emperor-has-no-clothes-rogues-future-legacy

Oh I know what the point is I just wanna read it/the contemporary reactions to it
'You'll always be the cuddly marsupial of my heart, despite the inherent flaws of your ancestry' - Squat
Nakajin
Profile Blog Joined September 2014
Canada8990 Posts
Last Edited: 2019-10-01 23:00:59
October 01 2019 23:00 GMT
#212
On October 02 2019 07:46 Wombat_NI wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 02 2019 07:40 Nakajin wrote:
On October 02 2019 07:18 Wombat_NI wrote:
Where can I find the ‘Rogue is a patch Zerg’ article I’ve heard mentioned relatively frequently on this site? Never actually read it


See if you think you need to read the article you kinda missed the point.

But whatever there you go: https://tl.net/forum/starcraft-2/530039-the-emperor-has-no-clothes-rogues-future-legacy

Oh I know what the point is I just wanna read it/the contemporary reactions to it

I stand by my comments
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Xain0n
Profile Joined November 2018
Italy3963 Posts
October 01 2019 23:01 GMT
#213
On October 02 2019 07:46 Wombat_NI wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 02 2019 07:40 Nakajin wrote:
On October 02 2019 07:18 Wombat_NI wrote:
Where can I find the ‘Rogue is a patch Zerg’ article I’ve heard mentioned relatively frequently on this site? Never actually read it


See if you think you need to read the article you kinda missed the point.

But whatever there you go: https://tl.net/forum/starcraft-2/530039-the-emperor-has-no-clothes-rogues-future-legacy

Oh I know what the point is I just wanna read it/the contemporary reactions to it


You definitely need to read it, go ahead!
Makaveli1
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
United States118 Posts
October 01 2019 23:40 GMT
#214
On October 02 2019 01:53 Fango wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 02 2019 01:45 Durnuu wrote:
Mizenhauer haters in shambles

[image loading]

User was warned for this post


I haven't posted really since like 2012, but why does TL ban memes. Let the people have some fun. We need the playerbase to have fun to keep this game alive and not warn/banhammer anyone that tries to make a joke or poke fun at someone.
WombaT
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Northern Ireland26933 Posts
October 01 2019 23:52 GMT
#215
Because a good meme is great but most people make terrible memes and spam them
'You'll always be the cuddly marsupial of my heart, despite the inherent flaws of your ancestry' - Squat
Alejandrisha
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
United States6565 Posts
October 02 2019 00:58 GMT
#216
you have a champion who is basically calling his trophy illegitimate. is he trolling? or just trying to send a message
get rich or die mining
TL+ Member
Anc13nt
Profile Blog Joined October 2017
1557 Posts
October 02 2019 03:24 GMT
#217
I know it sounds surprising but since May 2017, Rogue has had 65.52% winrate against Koreans offline, including a 76.52% winrate against Korean protoss offline. I did not know he was that strong against protoss.
Boggyb
Profile Joined January 2017
2855 Posts
October 02 2019 04:36 GMT
#218
On October 02 2019 12:24 Anc13nt wrote:
I know it sounds surprising but since May 2017, Rogue has had 65.52% winrate against Koreans offline, including a 76.52% winrate against Korean protoss offline. I did not know he was that strong against protoss.

I feel like anyone who has paid even a passing bit of attention to SC2 over the last 3 years knows Rogue is good at ZvP when he's in form.
(P)Classic 3 - 0 (Z)Serral
(Z)Rogue 4 - 0 (P)Classic
Alejandrisha
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
United States6565 Posts
October 02 2019 04:56 GMT
#219
On October 02 2019 12:24 Anc13nt wrote:
I know it sounds surprising but since May 2017, Rogue has had 65.52% winrate against Koreans offline, including a 76.52% winrate against Korean protoss offline. I did not know he was that strong against protoss.

that doesn't mean anything unless you list the matches.
get rich or die mining
TL+ Member
Harris1st
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Germany7216 Posts
October 02 2019 08:27 GMT
#220
On October 01 2019 21:52 SpaWnvERtiGO wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 01 2019 21:08 Harris1st wrote:
On October 01 2019 18:49 SpaWnvERtiGO wrote:
I gotta ask, for T vs, Z, why not bring back Irradiate?

It only works vs Biological, it wouldnt break TvP, i dont know what unit to put it on, i guess Raven? To replace Hunter missles?

Late game splash?


Well, the Viper pretty much has irradiate already. Would be weird if 2 races have the same spell.

Terran has the new EMP and on a cloaked unit. I feel there can be done so much more with that than what we've been shown so far.

Protoss needs a similar upgrade for HT's feedback range. Full energy Infestors would die. Every other Infestor just will be like "go home, you are drunk"
Also Protoss would still need Observers, which I think makes this a somewhat fair and cool to watch interaction




huh? maybe you didnt play broodwar.....

Parasitic bomb is an Anti air splash spell.. Irradiate was an ANTI - BIOLOGICAL spell that didnt affect mech units. Like parasitic bomb wrecks Vikings, irradiate would be useless vs those.

What does the EMP do for TvZ lategame? I'm talking Irradiate to counter clumps of Zerg, like broods, Corruptors especially, Ultras big ass roach balls, ect....


I did and I know


Broodlords:
Wouldn't it be kind of funny that everytime Broodlings spawn, the BL loses health? Like not paying with minerals like Carriers but with HP.
5 HP per wave or sth. So if you want to besiege something, after 8-10 rounds of Broodlings, you have go to back and regen health again.
Go Serral! GG EZ for Ence. Flashbang dance FTW
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