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On June 23 2019 18:47 Akio wrote:
VERY well deserved, congrats Dark <3
Excited to see if he can keep achieve more in BlizzCon this year, the 0-3 against Serral was pretty disappointing. Also his ZvT was looking good against INno in ro16, maybe he's ready to overcome Maru, who he struggled against last year in a pretty one-sided fashion
I think he's capable of going 1-3 against Serral at Blizzcon.
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Congrats to Dark, he finally got a GSL. Condolences to Trap but he got further than the previous tournament and his team mates - there is positivity in that. GG's.
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On June 23 2019 16:22 Waxangel wrote:to be honest, none of the Maru finals were good except the TY one. It's just that people remember the hype of Maru being so dominant more than the matches themselves.
This is very true. Virtually only Maru's fans seem to have really liked those series. Sometimes I'm afraid that SCII's popular momentum is going to be squandered by the combination of Maru dominance and the current metas involving Protoss which revolve around mid-game all-ins.
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On June 23 2019 18:47 Akio wrote:
VERY well deserved, congrats Dark <3
Excited to see if he can keep achieve more in BlizzCon this year, the 0-3 against Serral was pretty disappointing. Also his ZvT was looking good against INno in ro16, maybe he's ready to overcome Maru, who he struggled against last year in a pretty one-sided fashion
Dark will surely do well in Blizzcon this year. He could advance deeper as long as Serral doesn't keep stopping him again and again. He could take a map or two vs Serral but he can't seem to find the finishing blow against Serral ever since he defeated Serral in IEM in 2017.
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"Bad final", as some comment? Why?
It had a story, it had surprising turns. Admittedly the last game ended anti-climactic, but the players made up with a good interview after the final. I liked how Dark lifted the trophy, as if it belonged to him all the time.
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Well deserved, congratulations to Dark.
He has always been a scary Zerg player, looking for a personal play style when the meta was not in his favour. I am happy that it has finally payed off in GSL.
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On June 23 2019 23:42 [F_]aths wrote:
"Bad final", as some comment? Why?
It had a story, it had surprising turns. Admittedly the last game ended anti-climactic, but the players made up with a good interview after the final. I liked how Dark lifted the trophy, as if it belonged to him all the time.
Certainly, but Trap isnt that big of a name, and as you look at the polls 4/5 people predicted Dark would take the series. So the storyline from that point of view isnt that good, especially since it could have been Classic vs Dark, which would have been hyped as the uncontested best P vs the uncontested best Z of 2019 (in Korean sc2). The betting would have been around 50/50, more hype and maybe higher level games (or maybe not, that s hard to tell)
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Games weren't that great, but glad that Dark pulled it off.
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I'm really glad he finally won! I remember he had said something about expecting to win 10 premier tournaments. Everyone thought that it was that ambition that took a big toll on him and made him a kong. I wonder if this Code S will free him from that pressure! Let's see...
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On June 23 2019 22:21 sneakyfox wrote:Show nested quote +On June 23 2019 16:22 Waxangel wrote:On June 23 2019 15:37 Mun_Su wrote:
very bad final... to be honest, none of the Maru finals were good except the TY one. It's just that people remember the hype of Maru being so dominant more than the matches themselves. This is very true. Virtually only Maru's fans seem to have really liked those series. Sometimes I'm afraid that SCII's popular momentum is going to be squandered by the combination of Maru dominance and the current metas involving Protoss which revolve around mid-game all-ins.
so do you think Maru vs Stats was worse than this one?
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I'm definitely a Dark anti-fan, but Trap winning would have felt wrong.
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Congratulations, mr. Dark!
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On June 24 2019 01:04 Argonauta wrote:Show nested quote +On June 23 2019 22:21 sneakyfox wrote:On June 23 2019 16:22 Waxangel wrote:On June 23 2019 15:37 Mun_Su wrote:
very bad final... to be honest, none of the Maru finals were good except the TY one. It's just that people remember the hype of Maru being so dominant more than the matches themselves. This is very true. Virtually only Maru's fans seem to have really liked those series. Sometimes I'm afraid that SCII's popular momentum is going to be squandered by the combination of Maru dominance and the current metas involving Protoss which revolve around mid-game all-ins. so do you think Maru vs Stats was worse than this one?
Maru vs Stats was awful so yes
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On June 24 2019 02:12 Ej_ wrote:Show nested quote +On June 24 2019 01:04 Argonauta wrote:On June 23 2019 22:21 sneakyfox wrote:On June 23 2019 16:22 Waxangel wrote:On June 23 2019 15:37 Mun_Su wrote:
very bad final... to be honest, none of the Maru finals were good except the TY one. It's just that people remember the hype of Maru being so dominant more than the matches themselves. This is very true. Virtually only Maru's fans seem to have really liked those series. Sometimes I'm afraid that SCII's popular momentum is going to be squandered by the combination of Maru dominance and the current metas involving Protoss which revolve around mid-game all-ins. so do you think Maru vs Stats was worse than this one? Maru vs Stats was awful so yes
I guess we find joy in Sc2 in different ways, Maru vs Stats was one of the best Ive seen.
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On June 24 2019 02:22 Argonauta wrote:Show nested quote +On June 24 2019 02:12 Ej_ wrote:On June 24 2019 01:04 Argonauta wrote:On June 23 2019 22:21 sneakyfox wrote:On June 23 2019 16:22 Waxangel wrote:On June 23 2019 15:37 Mun_Su wrote:
very bad final... to be honest, none of the Maru finals were good except the TY one. It's just that people remember the hype of Maru being so dominant more than the matches themselves. This is very true. Virtually only Maru's fans seem to have really liked those series. Sometimes I'm afraid that SCII's popular momentum is going to be squandered by the combination of Maru dominance and the current metas involving Protoss which revolve around mid-game all-ins. so do you think Maru vs Stats was worse than this one? Maru vs Stats was awful so yes I guess we find joy in Sc2 in different ways, Maru vs Stats was one of the best Ive seen.
What was best in that? The constant Raven AAM + Ghost abuse or the proxies ?
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On June 24 2019 01:04 Argonauta wrote:Show nested quote +On June 23 2019 22:21 sneakyfox wrote:On June 23 2019 16:22 Waxangel wrote:On June 23 2019 15:37 Mun_Su wrote:
very bad final... to be honest, none of the Maru finals were good except the TY one. It's just that people remember the hype of Maru being so dominant more than the matches themselves. This is very true. Virtually only Maru's fans seem to have really liked those series. Sometimes I'm afraid that SCII's popular momentum is going to be squandered by the combination of Maru dominance and the current metas involving Protoss which revolve around mid-game all-ins. so do you think Maru vs Stats was worse than this one?
Tbh I don't think it was a good series, can't really see how it was any better than this one.
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On June 24 2019 02:12 Ej_ wrote:Show nested quote +On June 24 2019 01:04 Argonauta wrote:On June 23 2019 22:21 sneakyfox wrote:On June 23 2019 16:22 Waxangel wrote:On June 23 2019 15:37 Mun_Su wrote:
very bad final... to be honest, none of the Maru finals were good except the TY one. It's just that people remember the hype of Maru being so dominant more than the matches themselves. This is very true. Virtually only Maru's fans seem to have really liked those series. Sometimes I'm afraid that SCII's popular momentum is going to be squandered by the combination of Maru dominance and the current metas involving Protoss which revolve around mid-game all-ins. so do you think Maru vs Stats was worse than this one? Maru vs Stats was awful so yes
^^ this is the correct take! 
GG Dark, well deserved!
None of this finals' games was an abuse of overwhelming meta imbalance, like lots of those Maru finals. Sure, some were cheeses, but they were all defendable, as they actually were. I know most people think if it's not a +45mins split-map macro game, then it's insta-bad, but I like to see players pull different strats instead of cookie-cutter builds.
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On June 24 2019 00:00 Geo.Rion wrote:Show nested quote +On June 23 2019 23:42 [F_]aths wrote:
"Bad final", as some comment? Why?
It had a story, it had surprising turns. Admittedly the last game ended anti-climactic, but the players made up with a good interview after the final. I liked how Dark lifted the trophy, as if it belonged to him all the time. Certainly, but Trap isnt that big of a name, and as you look at the polls 4/5 people predicted Dark would take the series. So the storyline from that point of view isnt that good, especially since it could have been Classic vs Dark, which would have been hyped as the uncontested best P vs the uncontested best Z of 2019 (in Korean sc2). The betting would have been around 50/50, more hype and maybe higher level games (or maybe not, that s hard to tell)
Right, Dark was favored but it was a real fight as Trap showed he can keep his composure when he defeated classic even after a bungled cannon rush.
Tasteless mentioned Fruitdealer, I see this as part of the story though this time Protoss and not Terran was in the majority. Still, with little zerg representation, there was this zerg beacon of hope.
When Trap got the 2-2 score, for a moment I saw him taking the series. He deflected several Dark all-ins at that point. The individual games had some moments which I experienced being really tense. When Dark got the 3-2 score I expected Trap balancing it again but then we had the overlord drop. In a sense, Dark proved that is the the 'villain' after all.
I agree a Classic vs Dark finals would be the more exciting storyline, but having Trap as the champion killer going to the finals was not bad either. It is "just" season two, not the inaugural sesaon nor the concluding one for the year. I see it a bit as The Empire Strikes Back, or even The Two Towers. The part in the middle, surprisingly good.
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On June 24 2019 02:48 kajtarp wrote:Show nested quote +On June 24 2019 02:22 Argonauta wrote:On June 24 2019 02:12 Ej_ wrote:On June 24 2019 01:04 Argonauta wrote:On June 23 2019 22:21 sneakyfox wrote:On June 23 2019 16:22 Waxangel wrote:On June 23 2019 15:37 Mun_Su wrote:
very bad final... to be honest, none of the Maru finals were good except the TY one. It's just that people remember the hype of Maru being so dominant more than the matches themselves. This is very true. Virtually only Maru's fans seem to have really liked those series. Sometimes I'm afraid that SCII's popular momentum is going to be squandered by the combination of Maru dominance and the current metas involving Protoss which revolve around mid-game all-ins. so do you think Maru vs Stats was worse than this one? Maru vs Stats was awful so yes I guess we find joy in Sc2 in different ways, Maru vs Stats was one of the best Ive seen. What was best in that? The constant Raven AAM + Ghost abuse or the proxies ?
Feel free to link a single example of Maru abusing AAM + ghost vs Stats. The highest number of ravens he made in any of the games was one.
You're probably thinking of the match they played at IEM a few weeks before.
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