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Proko
Profile Joined February 2011
United States1022 Posts
June 20 2019 15:47 GMT
#101
SC2 coming back strong.
Caster duos should compliment each others' strengths. "You look very handsome today, Tasteless."
ordeal11
Profile Joined August 2018
Czech Republic52 Posts
Last Edited: 2019-06-20 21:13:12
June 20 2019 21:12 GMT
#102
Well, we still got plenty of events and with prizemoney for koreans, it would be 3rd european event with koreans (1 IEM, 1 ROG, 1-2 HSC). I feel like giving WCS points is little bit unfortunate because it brings all the issues you guys were mentioning. If instead of points there were little bit more money it would be perfect. But still, another major event, huge thing for SC2 in those times.
UnLarva
Profile Joined March 2019
458 Posts
Last Edited: 2019-06-20 22:35:25
June 20 2019 21:23 GMT
#103
What is exact reason WCS points from this tournament couldn't be counted for GSL participants' benefits too (that said if they arrive and compete successfully. I take that as granted)? Regions are diverged anyway and total sums of points in one doesn't impact to other.

What exactly prevent that?

GSL vs Worlds, you get eligibility to WCS Grand Finals by winning it? If you're Korean do you get such eligibility by winning this tournament?

If so, then why not count also points for the same purpose?

Please, Correct me if I'm wrong with the basic assumptions.

ADD: Regardless of exact status of the tournament and background thinking behind it (by Blizzard), every practical action that increase the competitive potential and intermingling between regions is good thing in current overall situation.

I simply don't get it why there couldn't be tournaments where points are shared regardless of where participants are coming from, as by definition of region lock, gathered points by one player in one region doesn't impact to gathered points of another player playing in another region. If players from one region take all top spots and thus majority of points from that common tournament, it doesn't make difference to order of players of other region, but it makes the scene more competitive and offer the initiative to participate off-region tournaments. There would be also better ways to measure what would be most suitable quota for regions to participate The Grand Finals.

You don't have to drop region lock alltogether between the Circuit and GSL, when you can organize common tournaments from which the points are counted for the players regardless of the region. More these kind tournaments would make good for both regions and the game as a whole.

Add. Further bondering... Allocation of points available from top spots of some moderately rewarded (by money) tournaments could actually make scene as a whole much more competitive than few top-heavy rewarded elite tournaments. In adjuntion of more widely spread prize money this could make miracles for the competitive scene.
In other words: Much more relatively low reward tournaments by monetary rewards, but awarded top-heavy by points and eligibilities to the top tournaments. In case of ties of achieved eligibilities between players their overall points would be the tie breaker. That could function even under region lock conditions as long as there are enough tournaments where points are awarded.

Its easier to find small sponsors than big ones. Its easier to organize several small-priced local small tournaments than few high-prized top tournaments in which large part of best players cannot participate anyway. Player vs player mix of competition would be much more diverse, and international top players would've to take part to many low-priced tournaments for gathering enough points to make it the top tournaments (or their qualifiers).

My perspective is more sustainable and audience friendly global competitive environment by means of giving the Circuit/GSL (or some combined form) points more higher role than sheer amount of winning money of a tournament. Region lock could be simply upheld only by scheduling tournaments in way that its practically impossible to take part to them all only because many of them are simultaneous.

I perceive whole competitive scene too TOP-heavy in every relevant aspect to it being capable to remain sustainable longer term in current economic frameworks set by the Company. Just thinking...

Most self-suffocating traditions of "Korean Elitism" must be obliterated by spreading the best Korean SC2 traditions all across the gaming world of SC2.
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Rantech
Profile Joined April 2010
Chile527 Posts
June 20 2019 22:57 GMT
#104
No region lock!!! Awesome!
ROGtournament
Profile Joined July 2013
29 Posts
June 21 2019 07:32 GMT
#105
Qualifiers

Here's how you can qualify the the tournament: http://asusrogtournament.com/summer-2019/qualifier-details

Four online qualifiers in three servers open for all on July 4-7. Good luck!
Remember to apply for an invite as well!
Harris1st
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Germany7106 Posts
June 21 2019 13:38 GMT
#106
This is good. No server restrictions and even a qualifier on the Korean server!
Go Serral! GG EZ for Ence. Flashbang dance FTW
rotta
Profile Joined December 2011
5601 Posts
June 22 2019 12:45 GMT
#107
On June 20 2019 23:24 Xiphias wrote:
Man, if Serral get's knocked out early on....

Tori will burn.
don't wall off against random
raff100
Profile Joined April 2011
498 Posts
June 22 2019 12:48 GMT
#108
Can't believe it, great news for SC
sneakyfox
Profile Joined January 2017
8216 Posts
June 22 2019 12:55 GMT
#109
China-Finland Archon making Starcraft great again!
"I saw what sneakyfox wrote on TL.net and it made me furious" - PartinG
Zzoram
Profile Joined February 2008
Canada7115 Posts
June 22 2019 16:12 GMT
#110
Awesome news! Always great to have more Starcraft 2 tournaments.
deacon.frost
Profile Joined February 2013
Czech Republic12129 Posts
Last Edited: 2019-06-22 18:46:48
June 22 2019 18:41 GMT
#111
On June 21 2019 16:32 ROGtournament wrote:
Qualifiers

Here's how you can qualify the the tournament: http://asusrogtournament.com/summer-2019/qualifier-details

Four online qualifiers in three servers open for all on July 4-7. Good luck!
Remember to apply for an invite as well!

That's a good news.

How about some community funded prize pool? you can use it either to add some money to lower places or to help fund the flight cost?

Edit> Although I'm not sure if there's the time for this.
I imagine France should be able to take this unless Lilbow is busy practicing for Starcraft III. | KadaverBB is my fairy ban mother.
MrFreeman
Profile Joined January 2015
207 Posts
June 22 2019 23:46 GMT
#112
Wow, I had no idea that somebody organizing tournament open for all the players who can qualify is a bad thing, the more you learn...
I have to remember to frown the whole time I'm watching!
Anc13nt
Profile Blog Joined October 2017
1557 Posts
June 23 2019 00:18 GMT
#113
On June 23 2019 08:46 MrFreeman wrote:
Wow, I had no idea that somebody organizing tournament open for all the players who can qualify is a bad thing, the more you learn...
I have to remember to frown the whole time I'm watching!


Some people like to criticize everything ig
BlyOnFire
Profile Joined September 2010
Ukraine74 Posts
June 23 2019 12:35 GMT
#114
Looks like site is not working properly? Didn't get mail about making new aka... even tho made couple attempts
Progamer
Azhrak
Profile Joined January 2011
Finland1198 Posts
June 23 2019 19:07 GMT
#115
Newly registered users should now be able to login. Sorry for the trouble! Thanks for the notice, Bly.
starcraft2.fi
The Starboy
Profile Joined May 2019
22 Posts
June 24 2019 03:29 GMT
#116
Oh yeah! Here we go again...
Elentos
Profile Blog Joined February 2015
55566 Posts
July 01 2019 15:52 GMT
#117
Considering the qualifiers are this week there's not a lot of people signed up yet. This could be some shitposter's opportunity to get in
Every 60 seconds in Africa, a minute passes.
Nakajin
Profile Blog Joined September 2014
Canada8989 Posts
Last Edited: 2019-07-01 17:37:17
July 01 2019 16:57 GMT
#118
On July 02 2019 00:52 Elentos wrote:
Considering the qualifiers are this week there's not a lot of people signed up yet. This could be some shitposter's opportunity to get in


12 players qualify in EU and 11 sign up, Luolis is in right now!

Can't wait for everyone to try to sign in an hour before then bitch on twitter about the organisation.
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Xain0n
Profile Joined November 2018
Italy3963 Posts
July 01 2019 17:35 GMT
#119
At the moment there are Inno, Solar, Gumiho, Ragnarok and Fantasy in the qualifiers, and we might maybe expect some JAGW player; that's already better than someone imagined, for sure.
opisska
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Poland8852 Posts
July 01 2019 18:03 GMT
#120
Shame you have to be masters to enter qualis, we could have turned them into a bronze heroes kinda deal
"Jeez, that's far from ideal." - Serral, the king of mild trashtalk
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