The IEM Katowice Round of 76 concluded with Creator, soO, GuMiho, Stats, Solar, and Lambo claiming the final six spots in the the Group Stage (RO24) of the tournament. The group stage of IEM Katowice will be played between February 28th-March 1st, with twelve players moving on to the final, playoff stage of the tournament (March 2-3).
On February 27 2019 08:56 sneakyfox wrote: Group stage players 75% Korean, 25% foreign: correct ratio according to science - should be implemented at Blizzcon
I wish, or we could just go back to the old way with no region lock and based on points without segregation
On February 27 2019 08:56 sneakyfox wrote: Group stage players 75% Korean, 25% foreign: correct ratio according to science - should be implemented at Blizzcon
I wish, or we could just go back to the old way with no region lock and based on points without segregation
On February 27 2019 08:56 sneakyfox wrote: Group stage players 75% Korean, 25% foreign: correct ratio according to science - should be implemented at Blizzcon
I wish, or we could just go back to the old way with no region lock and based on points without segregation
Group C is just a blockbuster waiting to happen. So much potential with that one and not even just because Serral is in it. Gumiho just brings fun in general and there's just so much TvZ and top-tier ZvZ inc
On February 27 2019 09:45 William paradise wrote: Scarlett first place
Mayyyybeee on a great day, could be last too, I wouldn't give her an edge over anyone there except Uthermal but you never now with him, every other match are killer. No reason to think Dear is worst then herO, soO is a great zvz player and the two Korean terrans are probably doable but most likely better then Special at TvZ. But group A and D are both very open I feel
"Only one EU Zerg makes it through qualifiers: self-declared Zerg elite left in shambles"
serral lambo elazer are the 3 best eu zergs serral and lambo did make it and elazer was knocked out by lambo after both of them defeated koreans so no shambles
Usually having to only prepare for 1 race is great for special, but in this case it's actually horrendous. Since it is round robin, any information given in previous games will be picked up from later opponents. He has to play a minimum of 10 games of TvP; some of his builds will have to be recycled.
Special should go practise with Alphastar I guess. Group A will have more cheese than all of switzerland. I guarantee it
Predictions: A: No idea. Coinflip says Patience, Stats and Zest B: Maru, Dark are safe bets. I hope for Neeb as well C: Serral, Rogue and .... puh. Gumiho if they let him do his thing D: TY, soO, Scarlett
On February 27 2019 13:30 tilhorizon wrote: "Only one EU Zerg makes it through qualifiers: self-declared Zerg elite left in shambles"
serral lambo elazer are the 3 best eu zergs serral and lambo did make it and elazer was knocked out by lambo after both of them defeated koreans so no shambles
did reynor get kicked out of the elite after yesterday's games?
I'm worried for all of the foreigners not going to lie - these groups look disgusting.
hoping to see something from Neeb - had a disappointing 2018 by his standards, this would be a great way to re-announce yourself.
Scarlett is the obvious one, beating her0 in a reverse from gsl ro32 must give her so much confidence.
Big shout out to Reynor who was so close to advancing. I've also not heard much about Goblin before but he beat TLO then took a map off both her0 and Trap who both advance so clearly one to look out for moving forward.
On February 27 2019 18:46 wraggy1234 wrote: I'm worried for all of the foreigners not going to lie - these groups look disgusting.
hoping to see something from Neeb - had a disappointing 2018 by his standards, this would be a great way to re-announce yourself.
Scarlett is the obvious one, beating her0 in a reverse from gsl ro32 must give her so much confidence.
Big shout out to Reynor who was so close to advancing. I've also not heard much about Goblin before but he beat TLO then took a map off both her0 and Trap who both advance so clearly one to look out for moving forward.
Can't wait for tomorrow! GG
Yeah, pretty stacked.
I think only Serral and Scarlett have a realistic chance to advance.
On February 27 2019 18:46 wraggy1234 wrote: I'm worried for all of the foreigners not going to lie - these groups look disgusting.
hoping to see something from Neeb - had a disappointing 2018 by his standards, this would be a great way to re-announce yourself.
Scarlett is the obvious one, beating her0 in a reverse from gsl ro32 must give her so much confidence.
Big shout out to Reynor who was so close to advancing. I've also not heard much about Goblin before but he beat TLO then took a map off both her0 and Trap who both advance so clearly one to look out for moving forward.
Can't wait for tomorrow! GG
disappointing 2018... reached ro4 GSL... yeah
I guess everyone forgot about this after Serral's wins.
On February 27 2019 18:46 wraggy1234 wrote: I'm worried for all of the foreigners not going to lie - these groups look disgusting.
hoping to see something from Neeb - had a disappointing 2018 by his standards, this would be a great way to re-announce yourself.
Scarlett is the obvious one, beating her0 in a reverse from gsl ro32 must give her so much confidence.
Big shout out to Reynor who was so close to advancing. I've also not heard much about Goblin before but he beat TLO then took a map off both her0 and Trap who both advance so clearly one to look out for moving forward.
Can't wait for tomorrow! GG
disappointing 2018... reached ro4 GSL... yeah
I guess everyone forgot about this after Serral's wins.
I guess disappointing compared to his 2017 dominace is what he meant. God I'm so hyped for this and can't even watch for the most part, cause I'm busy getting drunk in Cologne. Damn you Real Life!
On February 27 2019 13:30 tilhorizon wrote: "Only one EU Zerg makes it through qualifiers: self-declared Zerg elite left in shambles"
serral lambo elazer are the 3 best eu zergs serral and lambo did make it and elazer was knocked out by lambo after both of them defeated koreans so no shambles
did reynor get kicked out of the elite after yesterday's games?
he never was ,
no blizcon participation, no big tournaments won, no big prize moneys no acomplishments like other foreign zergs who have done all off those mentioned things
sure this can change this year but so far he is just a good talent nothing more and certainly there is no real objectiv reason to put him at the same level than serral ore lambo/elazer
On February 27 2019 13:30 tilhorizon wrote: "Only one EU Zerg makes it through qualifiers: self-declared Zerg elite left in shambles"
serral lambo elazer are the 3 best eu zergs serral and lambo did make it and elazer was knocked out by lambo after both of them defeated koreans so no shambles
did reynor get kicked out of the elite after yesterday's games?
he never was ,
no blizcon participation, no big tournaments won, no big prize moneys no acomplishments like other foreign zergs who have done all off those mentioned things
sure this can change this year but so far he is just a good talent nothing more and certainly there is no real objectiv reason to put him at the same level than serral ore lambo/elazer
sorry, but lambo only made it to blizzcon cause reynor wasn't allowed to participate in the first 2 wcs
On February 27 2019 13:30 tilhorizon wrote: "Only one EU Zerg makes it through qualifiers: self-declared Zerg elite left in shambles"
serral lambo elazer are the 3 best eu zergs serral and lambo did make it and elazer was knocked out by lambo after both of them defeated koreans so no shambles
did reynor get kicked out of the elite after yesterday's games?
he never was ,
no blizcon participation, no big tournaments won, no big prize moneys no acomplishments like other foreign zergs who have done all off those mentioned things
sure this can change this year but so far he is just a good talent nothing more and certainly there is no real objectiv reason to put him at the same level than serral ore lambo/elazer
sorry, but lambo only made it to blizzcon cause reynor wasn't allowed to participate in the first 2 wcs
that "could " be but its just a assumption and you only picked 1 of the 4 mentioned things elazer and lambo have both all of those 4 mentioned things reynor has nothing he has less prizemoney than those 2 less big results and no real tournament winnings ore accomplishemnts the only reason why he is so hyped is because he is so young and he did participate in gsl but objectivly he had no year beeing better more accomplished than lambo ore elazer
On February 27 2019 13:30 tilhorizon wrote: "Only one EU Zerg makes it through qualifiers: self-declared Zerg elite left in shambles"
serral lambo elazer are the 3 best eu zergs serral and lambo did make it and elazer was knocked out by lambo after both of them defeated koreans so no shambles
did reynor get kicked out of the elite after yesterday's games?
he never was ,
no blizcon participation, no big tournaments won, no big prize moneys no acomplishments like other foreign zergs who have done all off those mentioned things
sure this can change this year but so far he is just a good talent nothing more and certainly there is no real objectiv reason to put him at the same level than serral ore lambo/elazer
sorry, but lambo only made it to blizzcon cause reynor wasn't allowed to participate in the first 2 wcs
that "could " be but its just a assumption and you only picked 1 of the 4 mentioned things elazer and lambo have both all of those 4 mentioned things reynor has nothing he has less prizemoney than those 2 less big results and no real tournament winnings ore accomplishemnts the only reason why he is so hyped is because he is so young and he did participate in gsl but objectivly he had no year beeing better more accomplished than lambo ore elazer
he made GSL ro16 and got to the finals of a WCS tournament? I'd definitely put that over Lambo's achievements.
On February 27 2019 13:30 tilhorizon wrote: "Only one EU Zerg makes it through qualifiers: self-declared Zerg elite left in shambles"
serral lambo elazer are the 3 best eu zergs serral and lambo did make it and elazer was knocked out by lambo after both of them defeated koreans so no shambles
did reynor get kicked out of the elite after yesterday's games?
he never was ,
no blizcon participation, no big tournaments won, no big prize moneys no acomplishments like other foreign zergs who have done all off those mentioned things
sure this can change this year but so far he is just a good talent nothing more and certainly there is no real objectiv reason to put him at the same level than serral ore lambo/elazer
sorry, but lambo only made it to blizzcon cause reynor wasn't allowed to participate in the first 2 wcs
that "could " be but its just a assumption and you only picked 1 of the 4 mentioned things elazer and lambo have both all of those 4 mentioned things reynor has nothing he has less prizemoney than those 2 less big results and no real tournament winnings ore accomplishemnts the only reason why he is so hyped is because he is so young and he did participate in gsl but objectivly he had no year beeing better more accomplished than lambo ore elazer
Just in case you aren't actually trolling: Lambo has no accomplishment on the level of Reynors second place in WCS and the only tournament he won according to liquipedia is ESL Meisterschaft 2015. The overall prize money and blizzcon participation arguments are so ridiculously disingenuous, they bring me back to my initial assumption that you're just trolling.
"charoisaur" no need to argue with this korean fanboy who puts gsl over everything your past comments about a gsl victory vs blizzcon and your comments about serral just disqualifiying you of beeing objectiv
On February 27 2019 13:30 tilhorizon wrote: "Only one EU Zerg makes it through qualifiers: self-declared Zerg elite left in shambles"
serral lambo elazer are the 3 best eu zergs serral and lambo did make it and elazer was knocked out by lambo after both of them defeated koreans so no shambles
did reynor get kicked out of the elite after yesterday's games?
he never was ,
no blizcon participation, no big tournaments won, no big prize moneys no acomplishments like other foreign zergs who have done all off those mentioned things
sure this can change this year but so far he is just a good talent nothing more and certainly there is no real objectiv reason to put him at the same level than serral ore lambo/elazer
sorry, but lambo only made it to blizzcon cause reynor wasn't allowed to participate in the first 2 wcs
that "could " be but its just a assumption and you only picked 1 of the 4 mentioned things elazer and lambo have both all of those 4 mentioned things reynor has nothing he has less prizemoney than those 2 less big results and no real tournament winnings ore accomplishemnts the only reason why he is so hyped is because he is so young and he did participate in gsl but objectivly he had no year beeing better more accomplished than lambo ore elazer
Just in case you aren't actually trolling: Lambo has no accomplishment on the level of Reynors second place in WCS and the only tournament he won according to liquipedia is ESL Meisterschaft 2015. The overall prize money and blizzcon participation arguments are so ridiculously disingenuous, they bring me back to my initial assumption that you're just trolling.
i am not trolling just stating facts lambo has won esl 2015 reynor has not won any tournament ,,so talking about facts is ridiculous ?, just accept the fact that so far reynor is not as accomplished sure this can change and there is a good chance it will change this year , but ! so far it has not so far he is not on the level of lambo/elazer
On February 27 2019 13:30 tilhorizon wrote: "Only one EU Zerg makes it through qualifiers: self-declared Zerg elite left in shambles"
serral lambo elazer are the 3 best eu zergs serral and lambo did make it and elazer was knocked out by lambo after both of them defeated koreans so no shambles
did reynor get kicked out of the elite after yesterday's games?
he never was ,
no blizcon participation, no big tournaments won, no big prize moneys no acomplishments like other foreign zergs who have done all off those mentioned things
sure this can change this year but so far he is just a good talent nothing more and certainly there is no real objectiv reason to put him at the same level than serral ore lambo/elazer
sorry, but lambo only made it to blizzcon cause reynor wasn't allowed to participate in the first 2 wcs
that "could " be but its just a assumption and you only picked 1 of the 4 mentioned things elazer and lambo have both all of those 4 mentioned things reynor has nothing he has less prizemoney than those 2 less big results and no real tournament winnings ore accomplishemnts the only reason why he is so hyped is because he is so young and he did participate in gsl but objectivly he had no year beeing better more accomplished than lambo ore elazer
Just in case you aren't actually trolling: Lambo has no accomplishment on the level of Reynors second place in WCS and the only tournament he won according to liquipedia is ESL Meisterschaft 2015. The overall prize money and blizzcon participation arguments are so ridiculously disingenuous, they bring me back to my initial assumption that you're just trolling.
i am not trolling just stating facts lambo has won esl 2015 reynor has not won any tournament ,,so talking about facts is ridiculous ?, just accept the fact that so far reynor is not as accomplished sure this can change and there is a good chance it will change this year , but ! so far it has not so far he is not on the level of lambo/elazer
lol how is winning some german tournament a bigger achievement than making the wcs finals? the former awarded $1,700, the latter awarded $10,000. i don't think lambo himself thinks he's more accomplished than reynor
he actualy won anything in the past reynor not that is the first differents and when you bring up the 10000 pricepool , lambo actualy did win more money so far than reynor and if you bring up again the 2 place at wcs both lost to serral in this tournament 1 map away from victory , lambo had to played him 1 round before tho lambo did overal better in this year and has more wcs points sure reynor was blocked at the start of the year but that is not lambos fault that reyour was not allowed to participate
sure reynur could be more accomplished and better this year but he has not done it yet
at least i am objectiv and when reynor has a better year than lambo/elazer i will accept that and than i am happy for him not before that and you wouldnt either if u are not blinded by fanboy feelings no need to put him on the top eu zerg list yet
i am finished to talk with you reynor and gsl fanboys now
On February 27 2019 23:32 tilhorizon wrote: he actualy won anything in the past reynor not that is the first differents and when you bring up the 10000 pricepool , lambo actualy did win more money so far than reynor and if you bring up again the 2 place at wcs both lost to serral in this tournament 1 map away from victory , lambo had to played him 1 round before tho lambo did overal better in this year and has more wcs points sure reynor was blocked at the start of the year but that is not lambos fault that reyour was not allowed to participate
sure reynur could be more accomplished and better this year but he has not done it yet
at least i am objectiv and when reynor has a better year than lambo/elazer i will accept that and than i am happy for him not before that and you wouldnt either if u are not blinded by fanboy feelings no need to put him on the top eu zerg list yet
i am finished to talk with you reynor and gsl fanboys now
gotcha. so stephano is the most elite cause he made the most money and won the most premiere tournaments out of all of them. just being objective here
sure, he may not have qualified for WCS winter this year, but did you see his stack of cash?
On February 27 2019 23:32 tilhorizon wrote: he actualy won anything in the past reynor not that is the first differents and when you bring up the 10000 pricepool , lambo actualy did win more money so far than reynor and if you bring up again the 2 place at wcs both lost to serral in this tournament 1 map away from victory , lambo had to played him 1 round before tho lambo did overal better in this year and has more wcs points sure reynor was blocked at the start of the year but that is not lambos fault that reyour was not allowed to participate
sure reynur could be more accomplished and better this year but he has not done it yet
at least i am objectiv and when reynor has a better year than lambo/elazer i will accept that and than i am happy for him not before that and you wouldnt either if u are not blinded by fanboy feelings no need to put him on the top eu zerg list yet
i am finished to talk with you reynor and gsl fanboys now
Elazer's results in wcs last year consisted of a two ro8 finishes and two exits in the the 3rd group stage and finished below Reynor in wcs points so putting him above Reynor based of last years results is questionable at best
On February 27 2019 23:32 tilhorizon wrote: he actualy won anything in the past reynor not that is the first differents and when you bring up the 10000 pricepool , lambo actualy did win more money so far than reynor and if you bring up again the 2 place at wcs both lost to serral in this tournament 1 map away from victory , lambo had to played him 1 round before tho lambo did overal better in this year and has more wcs points sure reynor was blocked at the start of the year but that is not lambos fault that reyour was not allowed to participate
sure reynur could be more accomplished and better this year but he has not done it yet
at least i am objectiv and when reynor has a better year than lambo/elazer i will accept that and than i am happy for him not before that and you wouldnt either if u are not blinded by fanboy feelings no need to put him on the top eu zerg list yet
i am finished to talk with you reynor and gsl fanboys now
gotcha. so stephano is the most elite cause he made the most money and won the most premiere tournaments out of all of them. just being objective here
sure, he may not have qualified for WCS winter this year, but did you see his stack of cash?
Stephano basically invented the EU Zerg elite
WCS Winter says Elazer, Reynor and Lambo are all up there, pretty equally. Round of 8 will tell us more.
All are qualified for WESG, so equal again.
IEM, Lambo had a good day, so he advanced while the other 2 came close.
On February 27 2019 23:32 tilhorizon wrote: he actualy won anything in the past reynor not that is the first differents and when you bring up the 10000 pricepool , lambo actualy did win more money so far than reynor and if you bring up again the 2 place at wcs both lost to serral in this tournament 1 map away from victory , lambo had to played him 1 round before tho lambo did overal better in this year and has more wcs points sure reynor was blocked at the start of the year but that is not lambos fault that reyour was not allowed to participate
sure reynur could be more accomplished and better this year but he has not done it yet
at least i am objectiv and when reynor has a better year than lambo/elazer i will accept that and than i am happy for him not before that and you wouldnt either if u are not blinded by fanboy feelings no need to put him on the top eu zerg list yet
i am finished to talk with you reynor and gsl fanboys now
gotcha. so stephano is the most elite cause he made the most money and won the most premiere tournaments out of all of them. just being objective here
sure, he may not have qualified for WCS winter this year, but did you see his stack of cash?
Stephano basically invented the EU Zerg elite
WCS Winter says Elazer, Reynor and Lambo are all up there, pretty equally. Round of 8 will tell us more.
All are qualified for WESG, so equal again.
IEM, Lambo had a good day, so he advanced while the other 2 came close.
also some luck with the bracket. all 3 of them managed to beat only 1 korean, but reynor had to face 3. but i agree they're all on the same tier
I think it's undeniable that Reynor was the third most successful zerg foreigner last year with his WCS finals, GSL Ro16 and WESG Ro8... behind of course Serral (Blizzcon, 4WCS, blabla...) and Scarlett (IEM win, GSL Ro8, WESG Ro8).
On February 28 2019 01:16 Geo.Rion wrote: was it random draw or was it preordained which position from 1,2,3,4 go to group A, B, C, D?
I think it was a random draw but with some conditions like every group will get 2 players from the winner's bracket and 1 from the losers and no players seeded into the group share an open bracket.
On February 28 2019 02:07 TheBloodyDwarf wrote: I do fear for Serral
Me too. We really have no clue how good he is at the moment, especially with the "new" patch, we haven´t seen him play a lot, and when we saw him, the competition was nowhere near the korean level (Yeah HSC of course, but that was immediately after the patch came out). And this group is hard. And no ZvP either.
But then again, i fear for Serral in every tournament since May `18 or so...
And no one wins everything, even Serral has to lose at some point.
But then again, that´s what i think since May `18 or so... :D
I love Special and I honestly think the draw outcome is too ridiculous not to find funny. Group C is absolutely nuts, with group B no that far behind it. Group A forever meme group. Group D is the weakest and maybe the hardest to predict besides TY.
Hey, looking at the Katowice page. There is no listing of the RO76 open brackets or their maps. Someone who has this data, please add this information to the site. 😬
On February 28 2019 02:07 TheBloodyDwarf wrote: I do fear for Serral
I do not
Blessed is the mind too small for doubt.
lol not everyone who doesn't agree with your narrative must be dumb. so far, we haven't seen anything to indicate that those players can take down serral aside from doomsayers fear mongering. until there's anything meaningful to base those doubts on, there's nothing dumb about thinking serral will kill it once again via sheer raw skill superiority
On February 28 2019 02:07 TheBloodyDwarf wrote: I do fear for Serral
I do not
Blessed is the mind too small for doubt.
lol not everyone who doesn't agree with your narrative must be dumb. so far, we haven't seen anything to indicate that those players can take down serral aside from doomsayers fear mongering. until there's anything meaningful to base those doubts on, there's nothing dumb about thinking serral will kill it once again via sheer raw skill superiority
Chill bro, it's just a quote from 40k. No need to overreact. Also:
"not everyone who doesn't agree with your narrative must be dumb" --> "doomsayers fear mongering"
On February 28 2019 02:07 TheBloodyDwarf wrote: I do fear for Serral
I do not
Blessed is the mind too small for doubt.
lol not everyone who doesn't agree with your narrative must be dumb. so far, we haven't seen anything to indicate that those players can take down serral aside from doomsayers fear mongering. until there's anything meaningful to base those doubts on, there's nothing dumb about thinking serral will kill it once again via sheer raw skill superiority
Chill bro, it's just a quote from 40k. No need to overreact. Also:
"not everyone who doesn't agree with your narrative must be dumb" --> "doomsayers fear mongering"
Lmao
there's no contradiction in these claims... fear mongering occurs when negatively skewed predictions are not based on facts but are presented as facts. nothing about anyone's intelligence
On February 28 2019 02:07 TheBloodyDwarf wrote: I do fear for Serral
I do not
Blessed is the mind too small for doubt.
lol not everyone who doesn't agree with your narrative must be dumb. so far, we haven't seen anything to indicate that those players can take down serral aside from doomsayers fear mongering. until there's anything meaningful to base those doubts on, there's nothing dumb about thinking serral will kill it once again via sheer raw skill superiority
Chill bro, it's just a quote from 40k. No need to overreact. Also:
"not everyone who doesn't agree with your narrative must be dumb" --> "doomsayers fear mongering"
Lmao
there's no contradiction in these claims... fear mongering occurs when negatively skewed predictions are not based on facts but are presented as facts. nothing about anyone's intelligence
Yes, of course. Only you present facts, everyone who disagrees just pretends they have facts.