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IEM Katowice RO76 concludes, RO24 groups drawn

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TL.net ESPORTS
Profile Joined July 2011
4 Posts
February 26 2019 23:41 GMT
#1
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IEM Katowice: Round of 76

The IEM Katowice Round of 76 concluded with Creator, soO, GuMiho, Stats, Solar, and Lambo claiming the final six spots in the the Group Stage (RO24) of the tournament. The group stage of IEM Katowice will be played between February 28th-March 1st, with twelve players moving on to the final, playoff stage of the tournament (March 2-3).

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RO76 Bracket #3: (Wiki)Creator, (Wiki)soO, and (Wiki)GuMiho advanced



RO76 Bracket #4: (Wiki)Stats, (Wiki)Solar, and (Wiki)Lambo advanced


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herwo
Profile Joined January 2019
199 Posts
February 26 2019 23:46 GMT
#2
kill em joona~
NinjaNight
Profile Joined January 2018
428 Posts
February 26 2019 23:50 GMT
#3
Isn't there more groups than just these 4?
herwo
Profile Joined January 2019
199 Posts
Last Edited: 2019-02-26 23:53:02
February 26 2019 23:52 GMT
#4
On February 27 2019 08:50 NinjaNight wrote:
Isn't there more groups than just these 4?


no, there are 24 players in ro24
sneakyfox
Profile Joined January 2017
8216 Posts
February 26 2019 23:56 GMT
#5
KATOWICE QUALIFIERS HOT TAKES

Korea goes 10/12 in offline qualifiers: Glory is Regenerating (but herO goes to KeSPA jail)

Only one EU Zerg makes it through qualifiers: self-declared Zerg elite left in shambles

Group stage players 75% Korean, 25% foreign: correct ratio according to science - should be implemented at Blizzcon

9 Zerg, 8 Protoss, 7 Terran: balance whiners everywhere in shambles

No polish player at main tournament: event security greatly increased as massive riots expected
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pvsnp
Profile Joined January 2017
7676 Posts
February 26 2019 23:57 GMT
#6
On February 27 2019 08:52 herwo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 27 2019 08:50 NinjaNight wrote:
Isn't there more groups than just these 4?


no, there are 24 players in ro24


No, that can't possibly be right.
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yubo56
Profile Joined May 2014
688 Posts
February 27 2019 00:13 GMT
#7
On February 27 2019 08:56 sneakyfox wrote:
KATOWICE QUALIFIERS HOT TAKES

Korea goes 10/12 in offline qualifiers: Glory is Regenerating (but herO goes to KeSPA jail)

Only one EU Zerg makes it through qualifiers: self-declared Zerg elite left in shambles

Group stage players 75% Korean, 25% foreign: correct ratio according to science - should be implemented at Blizzcon

9 Zerg, 8 Protoss, 7 Terran: balance whiners everywhere in shambles

No polish player at main tournament: event security greatly increased as massive riots expected


Dude this is great haha, I love it
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Die4Ever
Profile Joined August 2010
United States17676 Posts
Last Edited: 2019-02-27 00:25:30
February 27 2019 00:24 GMT
#8
On February 27 2019 08:56 sneakyfox wrote:
Group stage players 75% Korean, 25% foreign: correct ratio according to science - should be implemented at Blizzcon

I wish, or we could just go back to the old way with no region lock and based on points without segregation
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William paradise
Profile Blog Joined April 2014
1753 Posts
February 27 2019 00:45 GMT
#9
Scarlett first place
ok
Cricketer12
Profile Blog Joined May 2012
United States13974 Posts
February 27 2019 01:27 GMT
#10
On February 27 2019 09:24 Die4Ever wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 27 2019 08:56 sneakyfox wrote:
Group stage players 75% Korean, 25% foreign: correct ratio according to science - should be implemented at Blizzcon

I wish, or we could just go back to the old way with no region lock and based on points without segregation

When all of korea retires we can
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Die4Ever
Profile Joined August 2010
United States17676 Posts
Last Edited: 2019-02-27 01:28:10
February 27 2019 01:27 GMT
#11
On February 27 2019 10:27 Cricketer12 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 27 2019 09:24 Die4Ever wrote:
On February 27 2019 08:56 sneakyfox wrote:
Group stage players 75% Korean, 25% foreign: correct ratio according to science - should be implemented at Blizzcon

I wish, or we could just go back to the old way with no region lock and based on points without segregation

When all of korea retires we can

that's what it looks like
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geokilla
Profile Joined May 2011
Canada8240 Posts
February 27 2019 01:42 GMT
#12
I was told the gap is closing. What happened?
Proko
Profile Joined February 2011
United States1022 Posts
February 27 2019 01:53 GMT
#13
Sadly, this will be a foreigner graveyard tourney, except Serral, who will move on but look human, I expect.

Still rooting for Neeb, Scarlett, Lambo and Special though. I'd love to see them succeed!
Caster duos should compliment each others' strengths. "You look very handsome today, Tasteless."
Proko
Profile Joined February 2011
United States1022 Posts
February 27 2019 01:54 GMT
#14
On February 27 2019 10:42 geokilla wrote:
I was told the gap is closing. What happened?


The foreigners who got in did beat some top Koreans to do it, so that's something.
Caster duos should compliment each others' strengths. "You look very handsome today, Tasteless."
FrostedMiniWheats
Profile Joined August 2010
United States30730 Posts
Last Edited: 2019-02-27 02:01:40
February 27 2019 01:56 GMT
#15
Nice, I have the day off for the good groups ^^

Group C is just a blockbuster waiting to happen. So much potential with that one and not even just because Serral is in it. Gumiho just brings fun in general and there's just so much TvZ and top-tier ZvZ inc

A: (P)Zest, (P)Stats, (P)Patience (it's just what Patience does...)

B: (T)Maru, (Z)Dark, (P)Neeb

C: (Z)Serral, (T)Bogus, (T)GuMiho

D: (Z)soO, (T)TY, (Z)Scarlett
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MASTERCAKES
Profile Joined March 2012
United States127 Posts
February 27 2019 02:02 GMT
#16
On February 27 2019 10:53 Proko wrote:
Sadly, this will be a foreigner graveyard tourney, except Serral, who will move on but look human, I expect.

Still rooting for Neeb, Scarlett, Lambo and Special though. I'd love to see them succeed!


Did Uthermal piss in your cheerios?
renaissanceMAN
Profile Joined March 2011
United States1840 Posts
February 27 2019 02:20 GMT
#17
Crazy f'ing groups.
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DieuCure
Profile Joined January 2017
France3713 Posts
February 27 2019 02:25 GMT
#18
Except UT and Patience/Special, i dont think that the 12 from the offline qualifiers will fail to qualify
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Topin
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
Peru10078 Posts
February 27 2019 03:15 GMT
#19
SpeCial... feelsbadman
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Nakajin
Profile Blog Joined September 2014
Canada8989 Posts
February 27 2019 03:41 GMT
#20
On February 27 2019 09:45 William paradise wrote:
Scarlett first place

Mayyyybeee on a great day, could be last too, I wouldn't give her an edge over anyone there except Uthermal but you never now with him, every other match are killer. No reason to think Dear is worst then herO, soO is a great zvz player and the two Korean terrans are probably doable but most likely better then Special at TvZ. But group A and D are both very open I feel
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starkiller123
Profile Joined January 2016
United States4030 Posts
February 27 2019 03:41 GMT
#21
On February 27 2019 11:25 DieuCure wrote:
Except UT and Patience/Special, i dont think that the 12 from the offline qualifiers will fail to qualify

I don't think Neeb will qualify either
tilhorizon
Profile Joined September 2008
Germany191 Posts
February 27 2019 04:30 GMT
#22
"Only one EU Zerg makes it through qualifiers: self-declared Zerg elite left in shambles"

serral lambo elazer are the 3 best eu zergs
serral and lambo did make it and elazer was knocked out by lambo after both of them defeated koreans so no shambles
veniss
Profile Joined August 2018
75 Posts
February 27 2019 04:58 GMT
#23
Special miiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiight get through because he only needs to focus on one matchup. Rooting for all the foreigners, obv.
ordeal11
Profile Joined August 2018
Czech Republic52 Posts
February 27 2019 05:38 GMT
#24
More premier tournaments with best koreans and foreigners please, but keep the region lock or these are our last foreigners who can acquire some money
papapanda
Profile Joined April 2010
Taiwan326 Posts
February 27 2019 05:56 GMT
#25
Usually having to only prepare for 1 race is great for special, but in this case it's actually horrendous.
Since it is round robin, any information given in previous games will be picked up from later opponents.
He has to play a minimum of 10 games of TvP; some of his builds will have to be recycled.
Musicus
Profile Joined August 2011
Germany23576 Posts
February 27 2019 06:53 GMT
#26
On February 27 2019 08:57 pvsnp wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 27 2019 08:52 herwo wrote:
On February 27 2019 08:50 NinjaNight wrote:
Isn't there more groups than just these 4?


no, there are 24 players in ro24


No, that can't possibly be right.

Can someone crunch the numbers on this?
Maru and Serral are probably top 5.
Proko
Profile Joined February 2011
United States1022 Posts
February 27 2019 07:03 GMT
#27
On February 27 2019 11:02 MASTERCAKES wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 27 2019 10:53 Proko wrote:
Sadly, this will be a foreigner graveyard tourney, except Serral, who will move on but look human, I expect.

Still rooting for Neeb, Scarlett, Lambo and Special though. I'd love to see them succeed!


Did Uthermal piss in your cheerios?


No, just missed him. Jesus, sorry.
Caster duos should compliment each others' strengths. "You look very handsome today, Tasteless."
Zerg.Zilla
Profile Joined February 2012
Hungary5029 Posts
February 27 2019 07:24 GMT
#28
Hope Serral and Scarlett gets out Don't really care about the rest of the foreigners xD
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BaneRiders
Profile Joined August 2013
Sweden3630 Posts
February 27 2019 07:33 GMT
#29
On February 27 2019 08:56 sneakyfox wrote:
KATOWICE QUALIFIERS HOT TAKES

Korea goes 10/12 in offline qualifiers: Glory is Regenerating (but herO goes to KeSPA jail)

Only one EU Zerg makes it through qualifiers: self-declared Zerg elite left in shambles

Group stage players 75% Korean, 25% foreign: correct ratio according to science - should be implemented at Blizzcon

9 Zerg, 8 Protoss, 7 Terran: balance whiners everywhere in shambles

No polish player at main tournament: event security greatly increased as massive riots expected


Marvelous!

Special better sharpen his TvP and he'll make it out of the group as first. The rest will be busy practicing 4-gate all-ins and stuff.
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Waxangel
Profile Blog Joined September 2002
United States33388 Posts
February 27 2019 08:27 GMT
#30
RIP Poland :[
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KeppyKep
Profile Joined July 2018
1 Post
February 27 2019 08:43 GMT
#31
How was the group selection carried out?
The racial distribution made me burst out laughing in bewilderment
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Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Charlie Sheens House51484 Posts
February 27 2019 08:44 GMT
#32
Jesus, Special and 5 Protoss, i hope he has worked on his TvP that is nuts lol
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Harris1st
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Germany6929 Posts
February 27 2019 08:59 GMT
#33
Special should go practise with Alphastar I guess.
Group A will have more cheese than all of switzerland. I guarantee it

Predictions:
A: No idea. Coinflip says Patience, Stats and Zest
B: Maru, Dark are safe bets. I hope for Neeb as well
C: Serral, Rogue and .... puh. Gumiho if they let him do his thing
D: TY, soO, Scarlett
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Chris3
Profile Joined August 2018
5 Posts
February 27 2019 09:15 GMT
#34
My predictions:

A: Zest, Stats, Patience
B: Dark, Maru, Neeb/Trap
C: Serral, Rogue and Innovation¨
D: soO, TY, Dear
herwo
Profile Joined January 2019
199 Posts
February 27 2019 09:43 GMT
#35
On February 27 2019 13:30 tilhorizon wrote:
"Only one EU Zerg makes it through qualifiers: self-declared Zerg elite left in shambles"

serral lambo elazer are the 3 best eu zergs
serral and lambo did make it and elazer was knocked out by lambo after both of them defeated koreans so no shambles


did reynor get kicked out of the elite after yesterday's games?
wraggy1234
Profile Blog Joined May 2011
United Kingdom135 Posts
February 27 2019 09:46 GMT
#36
I'm worried for all of the foreigners not going to lie - these groups look disgusting.

hoping to see something from Neeb - had a disappointing 2018 by his standards, this would be a great way to re-announce yourself.

Scarlett is the obvious one, beating her0 in a reverse from gsl ro32 must give her so much confidence.

Big shout out to Reynor who was so close to advancing. I've also not heard much about Goblin before but he beat TLO then took a map off both her0 and Trap who both advance so clearly one to look out for moving forward.

Can't wait for tomorrow! GG
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gingerfluffmuff
Profile Joined January 2011
Austria4570 Posts
February 27 2019 10:08 GMT
#37
On February 27 2019 18:46 wraggy1234 wrote:
I'm worried for all of the foreigners not going to lie - these groups look disgusting.

hoping to see something from Neeb - had a disappointing 2018 by his standards, this would be a great way to re-announce yourself.

Scarlett is the obvious one, beating her0 in a reverse from gsl ro32 must give her so much confidence.

Big shout out to Reynor who was so close to advancing. I've also not heard much about Goblin before but he beat TLO then took a map off both her0 and Trap who both advance so clearly one to look out for moving forward.

Can't wait for tomorrow! GG

Yeah, pretty stacked.

I think only Serral and Scarlett have a realistic chance to advance.
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Charoisaur
Profile Joined August 2014
Germany15961 Posts
February 27 2019 11:23 GMT
#38
On February 27 2019 18:46 wraggy1234 wrote:
I'm worried for all of the foreigners not going to lie - these groups look disgusting.

hoping to see something from Neeb - had a disappointing 2018 by his standards, this would be a great way to re-announce yourself.

Scarlett is the obvious one, beating her0 in a reverse from gsl ro32 must give her so much confidence.

Big shout out to Reynor who was so close to advancing. I've also not heard much about Goblin before but he beat TLO then took a map off both her0 and Trap who both advance so clearly one to look out for moving forward.

Can't wait for tomorrow! GG

disappointing 2018... reached ro4 GSL... yeah

I guess everyone forgot about this after Serral's wins.
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Harris1st
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Germany6929 Posts
February 27 2019 12:28 GMT
#39
On February 27 2019 20:23 Charoisaur wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 27 2019 18:46 wraggy1234 wrote:
I'm worried for all of the foreigners not going to lie - these groups look disgusting.

hoping to see something from Neeb - had a disappointing 2018 by his standards, this would be a great way to re-announce yourself.

Scarlett is the obvious one, beating her0 in a reverse from gsl ro32 must give her so much confidence.

Big shout out to Reynor who was so close to advancing. I've also not heard much about Goblin before but he beat TLO then took a map off both her0 and Trap who both advance so clearly one to look out for moving forward.

Can't wait for tomorrow! GG

disappointing 2018... reached ro4 GSL... yeah

I guess everyone forgot about this after Serral's wins.


I guess disappointing compared to his 2017 dominace is what he meant.
God I'm so hyped for this and can't even watch for the most part, cause I'm busy getting drunk in Cologne. Damn you Real Life!
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Sweetfrost
Profile Joined October 2010
Sweden211 Posts
February 27 2019 12:29 GMT
#40
Rest in peace SpeCial.
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Argonauta
Profile Joined July 2016
Spain4948 Posts
February 27 2019 12:35 GMT
#41
Group A is funny. Weirdly enough, Patience has a much better chance to go through this group than any other possible group.
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tilhorizon
Profile Joined September 2008
Germany191 Posts
February 27 2019 13:12 GMT
#42
On February 27 2019 18:43 herwo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 27 2019 13:30 tilhorizon wrote:
"Only one EU Zerg makes it through qualifiers: self-declared Zerg elite left in shambles"

serral lambo elazer are the 3 best eu zergs
serral and lambo did make it and elazer was knocked out by lambo after both of them defeated koreans so no shambles


did reynor get kicked out of the elite after yesterday's games?



he never was ,

no blizcon participation, no big tournaments won, no big prize moneys no acomplishments
like other foreign zergs who have done all off those mentioned things

sure this can change this year but so far he is just a good talent nothing more
and certainly there is no real objectiv reason to put him at the same level than serral ore lambo/elazer


DBooN
Profile Joined May 2011
Germany2727 Posts
February 27 2019 13:17 GMT
#43
lol
herwo
Profile Joined January 2019
199 Posts
February 27 2019 13:40 GMT
#44
On February 27 2019 22:12 tilhorizon wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 27 2019 18:43 herwo wrote:
On February 27 2019 13:30 tilhorizon wrote:
"Only one EU Zerg makes it through qualifiers: self-declared Zerg elite left in shambles"

serral lambo elazer are the 3 best eu zergs
serral and lambo did make it and elazer was knocked out by lambo after both of them defeated koreans so no shambles


did reynor get kicked out of the elite after yesterday's games?



he never was ,

no blizcon participation, no big tournaments won, no big prize moneys no acomplishments
like other foreign zergs who have done all off those mentioned things

sure this can change this year but so far he is just a good talent nothing more
and certainly there is no real objectiv reason to put him at the same level than serral ore lambo/elazer




sorry, but lambo only made it to blizzcon cause reynor wasn't allowed to participate in the first 2 wcs
tilhorizon
Profile Joined September 2008
Germany191 Posts
February 27 2019 13:51 GMT
#45
On February 27 2019 22:40 herwo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 27 2019 22:12 tilhorizon wrote:
On February 27 2019 18:43 herwo wrote:
On February 27 2019 13:30 tilhorizon wrote:
"Only one EU Zerg makes it through qualifiers: self-declared Zerg elite left in shambles"

serral lambo elazer are the 3 best eu zergs
serral and lambo did make it and elazer was knocked out by lambo after both of them defeated koreans so no shambles


did reynor get kicked out of the elite after yesterday's games?



he never was ,

no blizcon participation, no big tournaments won, no big prize moneys no acomplishments
like other foreign zergs who have done all off those mentioned things

sure this can change this year but so far he is just a good talent nothing more
and certainly there is no real objectiv reason to put him at the same level than serral ore lambo/elazer




sorry, but lambo only made it to blizzcon cause reynor wasn't allowed to participate in the first 2 wcs


that "could " be but its just a assumption and you only picked 1 of the 4 mentioned things
elazer and lambo have both all of those 4 mentioned things reynor has nothing
he has less prizemoney than those 2 less big results and no real tournament winnings ore accomplishemnts
the only reason why he is so hyped is because he is so young and he did participate in gsl but objectivly he had no year beeing better more accomplished than lambo ore elazer
Charoisaur
Profile Joined August 2014
Germany15961 Posts
February 27 2019 13:56 GMT
#46
On February 27 2019 22:51 tilhorizon wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 27 2019 22:40 herwo wrote:
On February 27 2019 22:12 tilhorizon wrote:
On February 27 2019 18:43 herwo wrote:
On February 27 2019 13:30 tilhorizon wrote:
"Only one EU Zerg makes it through qualifiers: self-declared Zerg elite left in shambles"

serral lambo elazer are the 3 best eu zergs
serral and lambo did make it and elazer was knocked out by lambo after both of them defeated koreans so no shambles


did reynor get kicked out of the elite after yesterday's games?



he never was ,

no blizcon participation, no big tournaments won, no big prize moneys no acomplishments
like other foreign zergs who have done all off those mentioned things

sure this can change this year but so far he is just a good talent nothing more
and certainly there is no real objectiv reason to put him at the same level than serral ore lambo/elazer




sorry, but lambo only made it to blizzcon cause reynor wasn't allowed to participate in the first 2 wcs


that "could " be but its just a assumption and you only picked 1 of the 4 mentioned things
elazer and lambo have both all of those 4 mentioned things reynor has nothing
he has less prizemoney than those 2 less big results and no real tournament winnings ore accomplishemnts
the only reason why he is so hyped is because he is so young and he did participate in gsl but objectivly he had no year beeing better more accomplished than lambo ore elazer

he made GSL ro16 and got to the finals of a WCS tournament? I'd definitely put that over Lambo's achievements.
Many of the coolest moments in sc2 happen due to worker harassment
DBooN
Profile Joined May 2011
Germany2727 Posts
February 27 2019 13:58 GMT
#47
On February 27 2019 22:51 tilhorizon wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 27 2019 22:40 herwo wrote:
On February 27 2019 22:12 tilhorizon wrote:
On February 27 2019 18:43 herwo wrote:
On February 27 2019 13:30 tilhorizon wrote:
"Only one EU Zerg makes it through qualifiers: self-declared Zerg elite left in shambles"

serral lambo elazer are the 3 best eu zergs
serral and lambo did make it and elazer was knocked out by lambo after both of them defeated koreans so no shambles


did reynor get kicked out of the elite after yesterday's games?



he never was ,

no blizcon participation, no big tournaments won, no big prize moneys no acomplishments
like other foreign zergs who have done all off those mentioned things

sure this can change this year but so far he is just a good talent nothing more
and certainly there is no real objectiv reason to put him at the same level than serral ore lambo/elazer




sorry, but lambo only made it to blizzcon cause reynor wasn't allowed to participate in the first 2 wcs


that "could " be but its just a assumption and you only picked 1 of the 4 mentioned things
elazer and lambo have both all of those 4 mentioned things reynor has nothing
he has less prizemoney than those 2 less big results and no real tournament winnings ore accomplishemnts
the only reason why he is so hyped is because he is so young and he did participate in gsl but objectivly he had no year beeing better more accomplished than lambo ore elazer

Just in case you aren't actually trolling: Lambo has no accomplishment on the level of Reynors second place in WCS and the only tournament he won according to liquipedia is ESL Meisterschaft 2015.
The overall prize money and blizzcon participation arguments are so ridiculously disingenuous, they bring me back to my initial assumption that you're just trolling.
tilhorizon
Profile Joined September 2008
Germany191 Posts
Last Edited: 2019-02-27 14:18:10
February 27 2019 14:06 GMT
#48
"charoisaur" no need to argue with this korean fanboy who puts gsl over everything
your past comments about a gsl victory vs blizzcon and your comments about serral
just disqualifiying you of beeing objectiv
tilhorizon
Profile Joined September 2008
Germany191 Posts
February 27 2019 14:13 GMT
#49
On February 27 2019 22:58 DBooN wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 27 2019 22:51 tilhorizon wrote:
On February 27 2019 22:40 herwo wrote:
On February 27 2019 22:12 tilhorizon wrote:
On February 27 2019 18:43 herwo wrote:
On February 27 2019 13:30 tilhorizon wrote:
"Only one EU Zerg makes it through qualifiers: self-declared Zerg elite left in shambles"

serral lambo elazer are the 3 best eu zergs
serral and lambo did make it and elazer was knocked out by lambo after both of them defeated koreans so no shambles


did reynor get kicked out of the elite after yesterday's games?



he never was ,

no blizcon participation, no big tournaments won, no big prize moneys no acomplishments
like other foreign zergs who have done all off those mentioned things

sure this can change this year but so far he is just a good talent nothing more
and certainly there is no real objectiv reason to put him at the same level than serral ore lambo/elazer




sorry, but lambo only made it to blizzcon cause reynor wasn't allowed to participate in the first 2 wcs


that "could " be but its just a assumption and you only picked 1 of the 4 mentioned things
elazer and lambo have both all of those 4 mentioned things reynor has nothing
he has less prizemoney than those 2 less big results and no real tournament winnings ore accomplishemnts
the only reason why he is so hyped is because he is so young and he did participate in gsl but objectivly he had no year beeing better more accomplished than lambo ore elazer

Just in case you aren't actually trolling: Lambo has no accomplishment on the level of Reynors second place in WCS and the only tournament he won according to liquipedia is ESL Meisterschaft 2015.
The overall prize money and blizzcon participation arguments are so ridiculously disingenuous, they bring me back to my initial assumption that you're just trolling.



i am not trolling just stating facts lambo has won esl 2015 reynor has not won any tournament ,,so talking about facts is ridiculous ?, just accept the fact that so far reynor is not as accomplished
sure this can change and there is a good chance it will change this year , but ! so far it has not so far he is not on the level of lambo/elazer
herwo
Profile Joined January 2019
199 Posts
February 27 2019 14:18 GMT
#50
On February 27 2019 23:13 tilhorizon wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 27 2019 22:58 DBooN wrote:
On February 27 2019 22:51 tilhorizon wrote:
On February 27 2019 22:40 herwo wrote:
On February 27 2019 22:12 tilhorizon wrote:
On February 27 2019 18:43 herwo wrote:
On February 27 2019 13:30 tilhorizon wrote:
"Only one EU Zerg makes it through qualifiers: self-declared Zerg elite left in shambles"

serral lambo elazer are the 3 best eu zergs
serral and lambo did make it and elazer was knocked out by lambo after both of them defeated koreans so no shambles


did reynor get kicked out of the elite after yesterday's games?



he never was ,

no blizcon participation, no big tournaments won, no big prize moneys no acomplishments
like other foreign zergs who have done all off those mentioned things

sure this can change this year but so far he is just a good talent nothing more
and certainly there is no real objectiv reason to put him at the same level than serral ore lambo/elazer




sorry, but lambo only made it to blizzcon cause reynor wasn't allowed to participate in the first 2 wcs


that "could " be but its just a assumption and you only picked 1 of the 4 mentioned things
elazer and lambo have both all of those 4 mentioned things reynor has nothing
he has less prizemoney than those 2 less big results and no real tournament winnings ore accomplishemnts
the only reason why he is so hyped is because he is so young and he did participate in gsl but objectivly he had no year beeing better more accomplished than lambo ore elazer

Just in case you aren't actually trolling: Lambo has no accomplishment on the level of Reynors second place in WCS and the only tournament he won according to liquipedia is ESL Meisterschaft 2015.
The overall prize money and blizzcon participation arguments are so ridiculously disingenuous, they bring me back to my initial assumption that you're just trolling.



i am not trolling just stating facts lambo has won esl 2015 reynor has not won any tournament ,,so talking about facts is ridiculous ?, just accept the fact that so far reynor is not as accomplished
sure this can change and there is a good chance it will change this year , but ! so far it has not so far he is not on the level of lambo/elazer


lol how is winning some german tournament a bigger achievement than making the wcs finals? the former awarded $1,700, the latter awarded $10,000. i don't think lambo himself thinks he's more accomplished than reynor
tilhorizon
Profile Joined September 2008
Germany191 Posts
Last Edited: 2019-02-27 14:34:19
February 27 2019 14:32 GMT
#51
he actualy won anything in the past reynor not that is the first differents
and when you bring up the 10000 pricepool , lambo actualy did win more money so far than reynor
and if you bring up again the 2 place at wcs both lost to serral in this tournament 1 map away from victory , lambo had to played him 1 round before tho
lambo did overal better in this year and has more wcs points sure reynor was blocked at the start of the year but that is not lambos fault that reyour was not allowed to participate

sure reynur could be more accomplished and better this year but he has not done it yet

at least i am objectiv and when reynor has a better year than lambo/elazer i will accept that and than i am happy for him not before that and you wouldnt either if u are not blinded by fanboy feelings
no need to put him on the top eu zerg list yet

i am finished to talk with you reynor and gsl fanboys now



herwo
Profile Joined January 2019
199 Posts
Last Edited: 2019-02-27 14:42:39
February 27 2019 14:41 GMT
#52
On February 27 2019 23:32 tilhorizon wrote:
he actualy won anything in the past reynor not that is the first differents
and when you bring up the 10000 pricepool , lambo actualy did win more money so far than reynor
and if you bring up again the 2 place at wcs both lost to serral in this tournament 1 map away from victory , lambo had to played him 1 round before tho
lambo did overal better in this year and has more wcs points sure reynor was blocked at the start of the year but that is not lambos fault that reyour was not allowed to participate

sure reynur could be more accomplished and better this year but he has not done it yet

at least i am objectiv and when reynor has a better year than lambo/elazer i will accept that and than i am happy for him not before that and you wouldnt either if u are not blinded by fanboy feelings
no need to put him on the top eu zerg list yet

i am finished to talk with you reynor and gsl fanboys now





gotcha. so stephano is the most elite cause he made the most money and won the most premiere tournaments out of all of them. just being objective here

sure, he may not have qualified for WCS winter this year, but did you see his stack of cash?
starkiller123
Profile Joined January 2016
United States4030 Posts
February 27 2019 14:43 GMT
#53
On February 27 2019 23:32 tilhorizon wrote:
he actualy won anything in the past reynor not that is the first differents
and when you bring up the 10000 pricepool , lambo actualy did win more money so far than reynor
and if you bring up again the 2 place at wcs both lost to serral in this tournament 1 map away from victory , lambo had to played him 1 round before tho
lambo did overal better in this year and has more wcs points sure reynor was blocked at the start of the year but that is not lambos fault that reyour was not allowed to participate

sure reynur could be more accomplished and better this year but he has not done it yet

at least i am objectiv and when reynor has a better year than lambo/elazer i will accept that and than i am happy for him not before that and you wouldnt either if u are not blinded by fanboy feelings
no need to put him on the top eu zerg list yet

i am finished to talk with you reynor and gsl fanboys now




Elazer's results in wcs last year consisted of a two ro8 finishes and two exits in the the 3rd group stage and finished below Reynor in wcs points so putting him above Reynor based of last years results is questionable at best
Harris1st
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Germany6929 Posts
February 27 2019 15:07 GMT
#54
On February 27 2019 23:41 herwo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 27 2019 23:32 tilhorizon wrote:
he actualy won anything in the past reynor not that is the first differents
and when you bring up the 10000 pricepool , lambo actualy did win more money so far than reynor
and if you bring up again the 2 place at wcs both lost to serral in this tournament 1 map away from victory , lambo had to played him 1 round before tho
lambo did overal better in this year and has more wcs points sure reynor was blocked at the start of the year but that is not lambos fault that reyour was not allowed to participate

sure reynur could be more accomplished and better this year but he has not done it yet

at least i am objectiv and when reynor has a better year than lambo/elazer i will accept that and than i am happy for him not before that and you wouldnt either if u are not blinded by fanboy feelings
no need to put him on the top eu zerg list yet

i am finished to talk with you reynor and gsl fanboys now





gotcha. so stephano is the most elite cause he made the most money and won the most premiere tournaments out of all of them. just being objective here

sure, he may not have qualified for WCS winter this year, but did you see his stack of cash?


Stephano basically invented the EU Zerg elite

WCS Winter says Elazer, Reynor and Lambo are all up there, pretty equally. Round of 8 will tell us more.

All are qualified for WESG, so equal again.

IEM, Lambo had a good day, so he advanced while the other 2 came close.
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herwo
Profile Joined January 2019
199 Posts
February 27 2019 15:24 GMT
#55
On February 28 2019 00:07 Harris1st wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 27 2019 23:41 herwo wrote:
On February 27 2019 23:32 tilhorizon wrote:
he actualy won anything in the past reynor not that is the first differents
and when you bring up the 10000 pricepool , lambo actualy did win more money so far than reynor
and if you bring up again the 2 place at wcs both lost to serral in this tournament 1 map away from victory , lambo had to played him 1 round before tho
lambo did overal better in this year and has more wcs points sure reynor was blocked at the start of the year but that is not lambos fault that reyour was not allowed to participate

sure reynur could be more accomplished and better this year but he has not done it yet

at least i am objectiv and when reynor has a better year than lambo/elazer i will accept that and than i am happy for him not before that and you wouldnt either if u are not blinded by fanboy feelings
no need to put him on the top eu zerg list yet

i am finished to talk with you reynor and gsl fanboys now





gotcha. so stephano is the most elite cause he made the most money and won the most premiere tournaments out of all of them. just being objective here

sure, he may not have qualified for WCS winter this year, but did you see his stack of cash?


Stephano basically invented the EU Zerg elite

WCS Winter says Elazer, Reynor and Lambo are all up there, pretty equally. Round of 8 will tell us more.

All are qualified for WESG, so equal again.

IEM, Lambo had a good day, so he advanced while the other 2 came close.


also some luck with the bracket. all 3 of them managed to beat only 1 korean, but reynor had to face 3. but i agree they're all on the same tier
Elmonti
Profile Joined July 2018
Spain299 Posts
Last Edited: 2019-02-27 15:41:24
February 27 2019 15:32 GMT
#56
I think it's undeniable that Reynor was the third most successful zerg foreigner last year with his WCS finals, GSL Ro16 and WESG Ro8... behind of course Serral (Blizzcon, 4WCS, blabla...) and Scarlett (IEM win, GSL Ro8, WESG Ro8).

Geo.Rion
Profile Blog Joined October 2008
7377 Posts
February 27 2019 16:16 GMT
#57
was it random draw or was it preordained which position from 1,2,3,4 go to group A, B, C, D?
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Elinahiriu
Profile Joined February 2019
2 Posts
February 27 2019 16:34 GMT
#58
--- Nuked ---
Colouss
Profile Joined November 2013
United States501 Posts
February 27 2019 17:06 GMT
#59
On February 28 2019 01:16 Geo.Rion wrote:
was it random draw or was it preordained which position from 1,2,3,4 go to group A, B, C, D?


I think it was a random draw but with some conditions like every group will get 2 players from the winner's bracket and 1 from the losers and no players seeded into the group share an open bracket.
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TheBloodyDwarf
Profile Blog Joined March 2012
Finland7524 Posts
February 27 2019 17:07 GMT
#60
I do fear for Serral
Fusilero: "I still can't believe he did that, like dude what the fuck there's fandom and then there's what he did like holy shit. I still see it when I close my eyes." <- reaction to the original drunk santa post which later caught on
Vision_
Profile Joined September 2018
861 Posts
February 27 2019 18:02 GMT
#61
Do they choose these idiots groups to kill the atmosphere ?
Rob-Zero
Profile Joined January 2011
Germany459 Posts
February 27 2019 18:30 GMT
#62
On February 28 2019 02:07 TheBloodyDwarf wrote:
I do fear for Serral


Me too. We really have no clue how good he is at the moment, especially with the "new" patch, we haven´t seen him play a lot, and when we saw him, the competition was nowhere near the korean level (Yeah HSC of course, but that was immediately after the patch came out). And this group is hard. And no ZvP either.

But then again, i fear for Serral in every tournament since May `18 or so...

And no one wins everything, even Serral has to lose at some point.

But then again, that´s what i think since May `18 or so... :D
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126
Profile Joined October 2017
11 Posts
February 27 2019 19:36 GMT
#63
broken game, rip terran
Z3nith
Profile Joined October 2017
485 Posts
February 27 2019 19:39 GMT
#64
On February 28 2019 04:36 126 wrote:
broken game, rip terran


Bait post
TentativePanda
Profile Joined August 2014
United States800 Posts
Last Edited: 2019-02-27 22:11:03
February 27 2019 21:53 GMT
#65
I love Special and I honestly think the draw outcome is too ridiculous not to find funny. Group C is absolutely nuts, with group B no that far behind it. Group A forever meme group. Group D is the weakest and maybe the hardest to predict besides TY.
StarcraftSquall
Profile Joined December 2018
United States196 Posts
February 28 2019 04:15 GMT
#66
Hey, looking at the Katowice page. There is no listing of the RO76 open brackets or their maps. Someone who has this data, please add this information to the site. 😬
ScarPe
Profile Joined January 2010
Germany392 Posts
Last Edited: 2019-02-28 08:02:20
February 28 2019 07:42 GMT
#67
who the fk programmed the bot that seeded group 1? :D
you better like watching protoss day 1
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ordeal11
Profile Joined August 2018
Czech Republic52 Posts
February 28 2019 07:52 GMT
#68
On February 28 2019 02:07 TheBloodyDwarf wrote:
I do fear for Serral


I do not
egrimm
Profile Joined September 2011
Poland1199 Posts
February 28 2019 08:39 GMT
#69
I like how people are saying that group A is a coin-flip and then still almost everybody is predicting Zest, Stats and Patience to advance

Group A: Zest, Stats, Patience
Group B: Maru, Dark, Trap
Group C: Innovation, Serral, Rogue
Group D: TY, Dear, soO
sOs TY PartinG
pvsnp
Profile Joined January 2017
7676 Posts
February 28 2019 09:20 GMT
#70
On February 28 2019 16:52 ordeal11 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 28 2019 02:07 TheBloodyDwarf wrote:
I do fear for Serral


I do not


Blessed is the mind too small for doubt.
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herwo
Profile Joined January 2019
199 Posts
February 28 2019 11:39 GMT
#71
On February 28 2019 18:20 pvsnp wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 28 2019 16:52 ordeal11 wrote:
On February 28 2019 02:07 TheBloodyDwarf wrote:
I do fear for Serral


I do not


Blessed is the mind too small for doubt.


lol not everyone who doesn't agree with your narrative must be dumb. so far, we haven't seen anything to indicate that those players can take down serral aside from doomsayers fear mongering. until there's anything meaningful to base those doubts on, there's nothing dumb about thinking serral will kill it once again via sheer raw skill superiority
pvsnp
Profile Joined January 2017
7676 Posts
Last Edited: 2019-02-28 11:50:59
February 28 2019 11:47 GMT
#72
On February 28 2019 20:39 herwo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 28 2019 18:20 pvsnp wrote:
On February 28 2019 16:52 ordeal11 wrote:
On February 28 2019 02:07 TheBloodyDwarf wrote:
I do fear for Serral


I do not


Blessed is the mind too small for doubt.


lol not everyone who doesn't agree with your narrative must be dumb. so far, we haven't seen anything to indicate that those players can take down serral aside from doomsayers fear mongering. until there's anything meaningful to base those doubts on, there's nothing dumb about thinking serral will kill it once again via sheer raw skill superiority


Chill bro, it's just a quote from 40k. No need to overreact. Also:

"not everyone who doesn't agree with your narrative must be dumb" --> "doomsayers fear mongering"

Lmao
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herwo
Profile Joined January 2019
199 Posts
Last Edited: 2019-02-28 11:56:38
February 28 2019 11:56 GMT
#73
On February 28 2019 20:47 pvsnp wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 28 2019 20:39 herwo wrote:
On February 28 2019 18:20 pvsnp wrote:
On February 28 2019 16:52 ordeal11 wrote:
On February 28 2019 02:07 TheBloodyDwarf wrote:
I do fear for Serral


I do not


Blessed is the mind too small for doubt.


lol not everyone who doesn't agree with your narrative must be dumb. so far, we haven't seen anything to indicate that those players can take down serral aside from doomsayers fear mongering. until there's anything meaningful to base those doubts on, there's nothing dumb about thinking serral will kill it once again via sheer raw skill superiority


Chill bro, it's just a quote from 40k. No need to overreact. Also:

"not everyone who doesn't agree with your narrative must be dumb" --> "doomsayers fear mongering"

Lmao


there's no contradiction in these claims... fear mongering occurs when negatively skewed predictions are not based on facts but are presented as facts. nothing about anyone's intelligence
pvsnp
Profile Joined January 2017
7676 Posts
Last Edited: 2019-02-28 19:00:50
February 28 2019 18:59 GMT
#74
On February 28 2019 20:56 herwo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 28 2019 20:47 pvsnp wrote:
On February 28 2019 20:39 herwo wrote:
On February 28 2019 18:20 pvsnp wrote:
On February 28 2019 16:52 ordeal11 wrote:
On February 28 2019 02:07 TheBloodyDwarf wrote:
I do fear for Serral


I do not


Blessed is the mind too small for doubt.


lol not everyone who doesn't agree with your narrative must be dumb. so far, we haven't seen anything to indicate that those players can take down serral aside from doomsayers fear mongering. until there's anything meaningful to base those doubts on, there's nothing dumb about thinking serral will kill it once again via sheer raw skill superiority


Chill bro, it's just a quote from 40k. No need to overreact. Also:

"not everyone who doesn't agree with your narrative must be dumb" --> "doomsayers fear mongering"

Lmao


there's no contradiction in these claims... fear mongering occurs when negatively skewed predictions are not based on facts but are presented as facts. nothing about anyone's intelligence


Yes, of course. Only you present facts, everyone who disagrees just pretends they have facts.
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