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Code S RO16 Groups & Schedule (S1 2019)

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TL.net ESPORTS
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Last Edited: 2019-02-23 12:44:37
February 21 2019 15:57 GMT
#1
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2019 Global StarCraft II League - Code S Season 1

The Code S round of 16 groups have been determined following Thursday night's live Group Nomination show (watch the VODs on YouTube). Groups A & D (March 8-9) will be played following IEM Katowice, while Groups B & C (March 20 & 23) will be played after another break for WESG.

*AfreecaTV has revised the schedule and changed the order of the groups.
Please reconfirm if you were planning to watch a specific group or player.

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Syn Harvest
Profile Joined July 2012
United States191 Posts
February 21 2019 16:01 GMT
#2
Holy fuck Groups C and D are ridiculous. Those should be some great series.
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RealityTheGreat
Profile Joined January 2018
China564 Posts
Last Edited: 2019-02-21 16:09:01
February 21 2019 16:07 GMT
#3
Group A:Everyone thought himself can advance.
Group B:Maybe Dark calm down this time, but result is not consistent.Dear and herO are good at PvZ.
Croup C:Classic Trap Innovation sOs
Group D:sOs was so lucky that he did not fall in Group D.
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fLyiNgDroNe
Profile Joined September 2005
Belgium4003 Posts
February 21 2019 16:26 GMT
#4
This is going to be a great test to Innovation's TvP! Exciting!
Drone is a way of living
yubo56
Profile Joined May 2014
687 Posts
February 21 2019 16:42 GMT
#5
Lol, be INnoVation and literally direct 100% of your whining at Protoss, get in a group w/ 3 protoss. RIP

A: Maru &... Patience? Should be Maru > Impact, Patience > Bunny right? Then Bunny > Impact, Patience > Bunny. I don't recall Bunny's TvP being as strong as his TvZ
B: Dark Dear. herO still doesn't seem to be playing particularly well, and I favor Dear > Cure.
C: Classic Inno, I think Trap and sOs don't have the best PvT. I'd probably favor sOs > Classic head to head, so it'll depend on the bracket
D: Everybody loses except the audience. Betting TY Rogue, since I think TY has stronger TvT than Gumi and all around good TvZ, while Rogue should be favored against Gumiho and against soO.
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sneakyfox
Profile Joined January 2017
8216 Posts
February 21 2019 16:42 GMT
#6
TY gets the group of death. AGAIN. And Maru gets the easiest possible group. Again...
"I saw what sneakyfox wrote on TL.net and it made me furious" - PartinG
Tchado
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Jordan1831 Posts
February 21 2019 16:47 GMT
#7
Holy hell group C and D are STACKED !
Waxangel
Profile Blog Joined September 2002
United States33369 Posts
Last Edited: 2019-02-21 16:51:29
February 21 2019 16:50 GMT
#8
On February 22 2019 01:42 sneakyfox wrote:
TY gets the group of death. AGAIN. And Maru gets the easiest possible group. Again...


Well, the group selection format makes it almost impossible for the #1 seed to get a bad group since you get TWO unquestioned picks. Tough shit for TY tho
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swarminfestor
Profile Joined September 2017
Malaysia2449 Posts
February 21 2019 16:50 GMT
#9
I dont like Maru get the easiest group while Rogue get the hardest group again. Even though Rogue may survives, his mind will be shattered and his beast mode will be toned down just like the two previous code s series before the semifinal.
Rogue & Maru fan boy. ^^
starkiller123
Profile Joined January 2016
United States4030 Posts
February 21 2019 17:08 GMT
#10
haha these groups are hilarious, I'm excited to see one of Patience Impact or Bunny in the ro8, C and D look ridiculous and B should be good too
Elentos
Profile Blog Joined February 2015
55511 Posts
February 21 2019 17:10 GMT
#11
On February 22 2019 01:50 Waxangel wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 22 2019 01:42 sneakyfox wrote:
TY gets the group of death. AGAIN. And Maru gets the easiest possible group. Again...


Well, the group selection format makes it almost impossible for the #1 seed to get a bad group since you get TWO unquestioned picks. Tough shit for TY tho

TY has hard groups every season. At this point he should be used to it.
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Rodya
Profile Joined January 2018
546 Posts
February 21 2019 17:10 GMT
#12
On February 22 2019 01:50 Waxangel wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 22 2019 01:42 sneakyfox wrote:
TY gets the group of death. AGAIN. And Maru gets the easiest possible group. Again...


Well, the group selection format makes it almost impossible for the #1 seed to get a bad group since you get TWO unquestioned picks. Tough shit for TY tho

I mean if Zest beat Patience, Fantasy beat Impact, and Stats got out of his group, there would be no easy group for Maru to make.

Besides, he is guaranteed an elite ro.8 opponent unless Cure gets through.
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Elentos
Profile Blog Joined February 2015
55511 Posts
February 21 2019 17:15 GMT
#13
On February 22 2019 02:10 Rodya wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 22 2019 01:50 Waxangel wrote:
On February 22 2019 01:42 sneakyfox wrote:
TY gets the group of death. AGAIN. And Maru gets the easiest possible group. Again...


Well, the group selection format makes it almost impossible for the #1 seed to get a bad group since you get TWO unquestioned picks. Tough shit for TY tho

I mean if Zest beat Patience, Fantasy beat Impact, and Stats got out of his group, there would be no easy group for Maru to make.

Besides, he is guaranteed an elite ro.8 opponent unless Cure gets through.

He made herO look worthless in the Ro32. Don't think Maru is worried about anyone in group B except for Dark.
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Pandain
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States12989 Posts
February 21 2019 17:20 GMT
#14
Two GSL groups in one day!
fishjie
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States1519 Posts
February 21 2019 17:28 GMT
#15
damn dont think soo can get out of that group
it contains his nemesis who defeat him in finals, plus TY lol
Noonius
Profile Joined April 2012
Estonia17413 Posts
February 21 2019 17:32 GMT
#16
On February 22 2019 01:42 sneakyfox wrote:
TY gets the group of death. AGAIN. And Maru gets the easiest possible group. Again...


it's called collusion

Terran forever | Maru hater forever
kajtarp
Profile Joined April 2011
Hungary475 Posts
February 21 2019 17:41 GMT
#17
TY having a hard group is his fault too. Picking Gumiho first? There were way weaker players available to pick...
Why so serious?
fLyiNgDroNe
Profile Joined September 2005
Belgium4003 Posts
February 21 2019 17:45 GMT
#18
On February 22 2019 02:41 kajtarp wrote:
TY having a hard group is his fault too. Picking Gumiho first? There were way weaker players available to pick...


He was afraid that if he gets the weaker, Maru will replace him with second hardest player in his group, so he picked the one in the "middle range"
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kajtarp
Profile Joined April 2011
Hungary475 Posts
February 21 2019 17:48 GMT
#19
On February 22 2019 02:45 fLyiNgDroNe wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 22 2019 02:41 kajtarp wrote:
TY having a hard group is his fault too. Picking Gumiho first? There were way weaker players available to pick...


He was afraid that if he gets the weaker, Maru will replace him with second hardest player in his group, so he picked the one in the "middle range"


Same thing goes for Gumiho when he picked soO. He wasn't the weakest player available to pick by far...
Why so serious?
Fango
Profile Joined July 2016
United Kingdom8987 Posts
Last Edited: 2019-02-21 17:51:58
February 21 2019 17:51 GMT
#20
On February 22 2019 02:10 Elentos wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 22 2019 01:50 Waxangel wrote:
On February 22 2019 01:42 sneakyfox wrote:
TY gets the group of death. AGAIN. And Maru gets the easiest possible group. Again...


Well, the group selection format makes it almost impossible for the #1 seed to get a bad group since you get TWO unquestioned picks. Tough shit for TY tho

TY has hard groups every season. At this point he should be used to it.

At the same time I think he's only lost in a single group stage out of every LotV tournament. The only group I recall him losing in is GSL S1 ro16 last year.
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Pandain
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States12989 Posts
Last Edited: 2019-02-21 17:54:07
February 21 2019 17:53 GMT
#21
Maru obviously gets an insane advantage, but has there ever been a time in GSL history that it's literally been the strongest player and the three weakest in a group? '

It's a little bit crazy that one of Patience, Bunny, and Impact will be in the round of 8 and one match away from a Ro4.
Nakajin
Profile Blog Joined September 2014
Canada8989 Posts
February 21 2019 18:15 GMT
#22
I hope Patience beat Maru on some bullshit
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Waxangel
Profile Blog Joined September 2002
United States33369 Posts
Last Edited: 2019-02-21 18:33:34
February 21 2019 18:29 GMT
#23
On February 22 2019 02:53 Pandain wrote:
Maru obviously gets an insane advantage, but has there ever been a time in GSL history that it's literally been the strongest player and the three weakest in a group? '

It's a little bit crazy that one of Patience, Bunny, and Impact will be in the round of 8 and one match away from a Ro4.


Given the group selection order, I think that's what should always happen when everyone is picking "optimally."
  1. Maru picks the weakest player with #1 pick.
  2. No one wants to pick the second weakest player because they know Maru will swap for him at the end.
  3. Weakest player (picked by Maru) picks the second weakest player.
  4. Maru swaps for the third weakest player.

This theory only works because there's presently very severe skill stratification in the RO16 so that the 3~4 worst players are obvious to everyone regardless of match-up/race, whereas in years past there was enough parity in the RO16 that the 'worst' player could vary greatly depending on one's preferred match-up/race.
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Charoisaur
Profile Joined August 2014
Germany15937 Posts
February 21 2019 18:32 GMT
#24
On February 22 2019 01:50 swarminfestor wrote:
I dont like Maru get the easiest group while Rogue get the hardest group again. Even though Rogue may survives, his mind will be shattered and his beast mode will be toned down just like the two previous code s series before the semifinal.

Rogue wouldn't advance past the ro8 anyway. He has a worse record in GSL ro8s than soO has in finals
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Elentos
Profile Blog Joined February 2015
55511 Posts
Last Edited: 2019-02-21 18:42:55
February 21 2019 18:41 GMT
#25
On February 22 2019 02:48 kajtarp wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 22 2019 02:45 fLyiNgDroNe wrote:
On February 22 2019 02:41 kajtarp wrote:
TY having a hard group is his fault too. Picking Gumiho first? There were way weaker players available to pick...


He was afraid that if he gets the weaker, Maru will replace him with second hardest player in his group, so he picked the one in the "middle range"


Same thing goes for Gumiho when he picked soO. He wasn't the weakest player available to pick by far...

GuMiho's approach made sense to me though. He wanted to avoid Protoss like the plague (the only "easy" Protoss to pick was Patience who wouldn't have stayed in the group anyway). So he was basically limited to Inno, Cure, soO and Rogue. And then he said he wouldn't pick a Terran because he expected Inno to end up as the final player (so picking Inno would be pointless and picking Cure would just net him a 4 Terran group). He was wrong in the end though, obviously.

On February 22 2019 02:51 Fango wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 22 2019 02:10 Elentos wrote:
On February 22 2019 01:50 Waxangel wrote:
On February 22 2019 01:42 sneakyfox wrote:
TY gets the group of death. AGAIN. And Maru gets the easiest possible group. Again...


Well, the group selection format makes it almost impossible for the #1 seed to get a bad group since you get TWO unquestioned picks. Tough shit for TY tho

TY has hard groups every season. At this point he should be used to it.

At the same time I think he's only lost in a single group stage out of every LotV tournament. The only group I recall him losing in is GSL S1 ro16 last year.

Indeed, if that hadn't happened this year TY could have possibly become the first player to reach the Ro8 of GSL 10 times in a row. He's 7 in 8 for LotV.
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StarscreamG1
Profile Joined February 2011
Portugal1653 Posts
February 21 2019 18:58 GMT
#26
Wow, Innovation not going to be eliminated by Terrans for the 10000th straight time. Excited! :D
Akio
Profile Blog Joined January 2019
Finland1838 Posts
February 21 2019 19:01 GMT
#27
2 groups in a day? That's rare
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Elentos
Profile Blog Joined February 2015
55511 Posts
February 21 2019 19:01 GMT
#28
On February 22 2019 04:01 Akio wrote:
2 groups in a day? That's rare

Well it's not 2 groups in a day in a real timezone
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Pandain
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States12989 Posts
February 21 2019 19:07 GMT
#29
On February 22 2019 03:29 Waxangel wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 22 2019 02:53 Pandain wrote:
Maru obviously gets an insane advantage, but has there ever been a time in GSL history that it's literally been the strongest player and the three weakest in a group? '

It's a little bit crazy that one of Patience, Bunny, and Impact will be in the round of 8 and one match away from a Ro4.


Given the group selection order, I think that's what should always happen when everyone is picking "optimally."
  1. Maru picks the weakest player with #1 pick.
  2. No one wants to pick the second weakest player because they know Maru will swap for him at the end.
  3. Weakest player (picked by Maru) picks the second weakest player.
  4. Maru swaps for the third weakest player.

This theory only works because there's presently very severe skill stratification in the RO16 so that the 3~4 worst players are obvious to everyone regardless of match-up/race, whereas in years past there was enough parity in the RO16 that the 'worst' player could vary greatly depending on one's preferred match-up/race.


Great point.
Proko
Profile Joined February 2011
United States1022 Posts
February 21 2019 19:09 GMT
#30
Can Patience make ro8?
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Vutalisk
Profile Joined August 2016
United States680 Posts
February 21 2019 19:40 GMT
#31
Maru is just smart. He literally has the weakest players from all 3 races in his group.
Group C and D look tough. Just hope soO makes it out. That's all it matters.
ZigguratOfUr
Profile Blog Joined April 2012
Iraq16955 Posts
February 21 2019 20:19 GMT
#32
Maru getting an easy group isn't remarkable at all. It's the way some of the top seeds in the past have managed to get difficult groups that's remarkable (though I believe the swap rules have changed, so things weren't always as favourable to the previous winner).
Cricketer12
Profile Blog Joined May 2012
United States13974 Posts
February 21 2019 20:40 GMT
#33
Doesn't feel right not seeing sOs and Stats in a ro16 group..
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sneakyfox
Profile Joined January 2017
8216 Posts
Last Edited: 2019-02-21 21:07:14
February 21 2019 21:06 GMT
#34
On February 22 2019 03:41 Elentos wrote:

Show nested quote +
On February 22 2019 02:51 Fango wrote:
On February 22 2019 02:10 Elentos wrote:
On February 22 2019 01:50 Waxangel wrote:
On February 22 2019 01:42 sneakyfox wrote:
TY gets the group of death. AGAIN. And Maru gets the easiest possible group. Again...


Well, the group selection format makes it almost impossible for the #1 seed to get a bad group since you get TWO unquestioned picks. Tough shit for TY tho

TY has hard groups every season. At this point he should be used to it.

At the same time I think he's only lost in a single group stage out of every LotV tournament. The only group I recall him losing in is GSL S1 ro16 last year.

Indeed, if that hadn't happened this year TY could have possibly become the first player to reach the Ro8 of GSL 10 times in a row. He's 7 in 8 for LotV.


Yeah it really sucked that he lost that one against Dark and some newcomer called aLive.

Would have been sick to have the TY Award for 10 straight quarterfinals. At least he should get the PartinG award next season, but still

PS. Very hyped for three of these groups! Ro16 is going to be so sick!
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Xain0n
Profile Joined November 2018
Italy3963 Posts
February 21 2019 21:47 GMT
#35
Bunny is not the weakest Terran player left and I find unlikely that Rogue will never reach Code S semifinals.
Popparockz
Profile Joined April 2011
United States40 Posts
February 21 2019 21:52 GMT
#36
innovation already showed amazing TvP in the Ro32, so I expect him to crush that group.
sneakyfox
Profile Joined January 2017
8216 Posts
February 21 2019 22:11 GMT
#37
On February 22 2019 06:47 Xain0n wrote:
Bunny is not the weakest Terran player left


Well, in TvT he is the weakest and that is what matters regarding Maru
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BisuDagger
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
Bisutopia19231 Posts
February 21 2019 22:12 GMT
#38
Serral and Maru are being spoon fed the group stages. They better be ready for when they meet top tier players.
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Geo.Rion
Profile Blog Joined October 2008
7377 Posts
February 21 2019 22:12 GMT
#39
can anyone give me a quick rundown how Inno ended up with 3 P in his group? cant really watch the vod right now
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pvsnp
Profile Joined January 2017
7676 Posts
Last Edited: 2019-02-21 22:37:07
February 21 2019 22:30 GMT
#40
On February 22 2019 06:47 Xain0n wrote:
Bunny is not the weakest Terran player left and I find unlikely that Rogue will never reach Code S semifinals.


He isn't?

I guess Cure is not a top Terran either, but he always struck me as more well-rounded. Bunny seems very predictable with lots of drops and his TvT is meh.
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Shuffleblade
Profile Joined February 2012
Sweden1903 Posts
February 21 2019 22:33 GMT
#41
On February 22 2019 07:12 Geo.Rion wrote:
can anyone give me a quick rundown how Inno ended up with 3 P in his group? cant really watch the vod right now

Classic only preferred P so he chose Trap, Trap was considering a Terran and Cure didn't want to get picked into the group and therefore Trap picked Inno. Rogue begged to be picked by Inno and he taunted him hard but Inno said he would prefer to practise only one matchup and picked sOs.

Maru, Bomber, TY, Dear, Classic, DeParture and Rogue!
pvsnp
Profile Joined January 2017
7676 Posts
February 21 2019 22:34 GMT
#42
On February 22 2019 06:52 Popparockz wrote:
innovation already showed amazing TvP in the Ro32, so I expect him to crush that group.


"Amazing" against Hurricane and Creator?

Inno's TvP looks fairly solid, but Classic, Trap, and sOs are a lot stronger than his Ro32 opponents.
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SHODAN
Profile Joined November 2011
United Kingdom1085 Posts
February 21 2019 22:40 GMT
#43
loving the ty vs gumiho rematch. this is my favourite player vs player match-up in all of sc2
T-D-V-D
Profile Joined October 2018
21 Posts
February 21 2019 23:17 GMT
#44
Group D is absolute insanity..
Xain0n
Profile Joined November 2018
Italy3963 Posts
February 21 2019 23:21 GMT
#45
On February 22 2019 07:30 pvsnp wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 22 2019 06:47 Xain0n wrote:
Bunny is not the weakest Terran player left and I find unlikely that Rogue will never reach Code S semifinals.


He isn't?

I guess Cure is not a top Terran either, but he always struck me as more well-rounded. Bunny seems very predictable with lots of drops and his TvT is meh.


TvT is historically his weakest matchup, it's true.
However, Bunny has been performing quite well since HSC and his form is better than Cure's and Gumiho's: surviving the arguably toughest Code S group and, most importantly, directly qualifying for IEM seem respectable feats to me.
He showed nice mech play in addiction to his drop heavy style.
It's britney bitch
Profile Joined February 2018
26 Posts
February 21 2019 23:32 GMT
#46
the idea of forming groups with a little talk show is good, little variety to just playing thru the tournament. but gsl could consider cutting the time by 2 thirds. also would be easier for players as most dont seem to enjoy the little social event that much
Shellshock
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States97276 Posts
February 22 2019 00:08 GMT
#47
wow so far away from now
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Zerg.Zilla
Profile Joined February 2012
Hungary5029 Posts
February 22 2019 07:56 GMT
#48
This is gonna be sick, can't wait! C'mon $o$!
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bObA
Profile Joined May 2012
France300 Posts
February 22 2019 08:27 GMT
#49
On February 22 2019 01:01 Syn Harvest wrote:
Holy fuck Groups C and D are ridiculous. Those should be some great series.


indeed !!!
byte-Curious
Profile Joined October 2018
Mexico107 Posts
February 22 2019 08:58 GMT
#50
On February 22 2019 01:42 sneakyfox wrote:
TY gets the group of death. AGAIN. And Maru gets the easiest possible group. Again...


No group that has Maru in it can be called easy.
Shuffleblade
Profile Joined February 2012
Sweden1903 Posts
February 22 2019 09:10 GMT
#51
On February 22 2019 17:58 byte-Curious wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 22 2019 01:42 sneakyfox wrote:
TY gets the group of death. AGAIN. And Maru gets the easiest possible group. Again...


No group that has Maru in it can be called easy.

If only one player advances I would agree, but two people advance. Marus group is probably the easiest in GSL history
Maru, Bomber, TY, Dear, Classic, DeParture and Rogue!
sneakyfox
Profile Joined January 2017
8216 Posts
February 22 2019 10:21 GMT
#52
On February 22 2019 17:58 byte-Curious wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 22 2019 01:42 sneakyfox wrote:
TY gets the group of death. AGAIN. And Maru gets the easiest possible group. Again...


No group that has Maru in it can be called easy.


Yes, for Maru it is, which was the point.
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Rodya
Profile Joined January 2018
546 Posts
February 22 2019 11:10 GMT
#53
On February 22 2019 07:12 BisuDagger wrote:
Serral and Maru are being spoon fed the group stages. They better be ready for when they meet top tier players.

It's funny because Maru's last ro16 group (which people also said was insanely easy) included Reynor and Neeb, who are arguably the toughest opponents Serral can get in WCS. I mean there's no one who you'd say is stronger or outclasses them.
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BisuDagger
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
Bisutopia19231 Posts
February 22 2019 12:15 GMT
#54
On February 22 2019 20:10 Rodya wrote:
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On February 22 2019 07:12 BisuDagger wrote:
Serral and Maru are being spoon fed the group stages. They better be ready for when they meet top tier players.

It's funny because Maru's last ro16 group (which people also said was insanely easy) included Reynor and Neeb, who are arguably the toughest opponents Serral can get in WCS. I mean there's no one who you'd say is stronger or outclasses them.

I'm only referring to this WCS/GSL season. :D
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Edpayasugo
Profile Joined April 2013
United Kingdom2214 Posts
February 22 2019 12:26 GMT
#55
I hope INno has good TvP
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pichoo
Profile Joined May 2014
Australia123 Posts
February 22 2019 15:56 GMT
#56
On February 22 2019 20:10 Rodya wrote:
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On February 22 2019 07:12 BisuDagger wrote:
Serral and Maru are being spoon fed the group stages. They better be ready for when they meet top tier players.

It's funny because Maru's last ro16 group (which people also said was insanely easy) included Reynor and Neeb, who are arguably the toughest opponents Serral can get in WCS. I mean there's no one who you'd say is stronger or outclasses them.


So Maru underestimated Reynor that time. He could've lost the set.
Charoisaur
Profile Joined August 2014
Germany15937 Posts
February 22 2019 16:29 GMT
#57
has this swap system always been like this? I don't think I've seen discussions about it being supposedly unfair before 2018
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Rodya
Profile Joined January 2018
546 Posts
February 22 2019 18:15 GMT
#58
On February 23 2019 01:29 Charoisaur wrote:
has this swap system always been like this? I don't think I've seen discussions about it being supposedly unfair before 2018

It's just that less great players are playing the game due to lack of practice and migrating to brood war. Swap system has been around forever, and it has had criticism whenever one-sided groups are formed. The idea comes from the MSL (Wiki)MBCGame StarCraft League (MSL) and even then it produced some outcomes that upset certain fans.

The thing is just that Maru has had no trouble creating a one-sided group because there are barely enough elite players in form to fill the round, and well upsets do happen.
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Waxangel
Profile Blog Joined September 2002
United States33369 Posts
Last Edited: 2019-02-22 18:53:56
February 22 2019 18:49 GMT
#59
nm!
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fronkschnonk
Profile Joined November 2011
Germany622 Posts
February 22 2019 19:42 GMT
#60
On February 23 2019 03:15 Rodya wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 23 2019 01:29 Charoisaur wrote:
has this swap system always been like this? I don't think I've seen discussions about it being supposedly unfair before 2018

It's just that less great players are playing the game due to lack of practice and migrating to brood war. Swap system has been around forever, and it has had criticism whenever one-sided groups are formed. The idea comes from the MSL (Wiki)MBCGame StarCraft League (MSL) and even then it produced some outcomes that upset certain fans.

The thing is just that Maru has had no trouble creating a one-sided group because there are barely enough elite players in form to fill the round, and well upsets do happen.

Maru also isn't much of a bragger and doesn't feel pressure to entertain the crowd. So he makes the most rational picks. For other champions rivalries, teammates and ego (I'm the best, I'll win anyway) were important factors in their decision making. Maru doesn't have to prove anything, he just does his thing.
Furthermore, I consider that some kind of Code A must be reestablished.
Mun_Su
Profile Joined December 2012
France2063 Posts
February 22 2019 19:44 GMT
#61
naah INno with all these protoss. Maru again with the easiest group and though luck for TY
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Charoisaur
Profile Joined August 2014
Germany15937 Posts
February 22 2019 19:45 GMT
#62
On February 23 2019 04:42 fronkschnonk wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 23 2019 03:15 Rodya wrote:
On February 23 2019 01:29 Charoisaur wrote:
has this swap system always been like this? I don't think I've seen discussions about it being supposedly unfair before 2018

It's just that less great players are playing the game due to lack of practice and migrating to brood war. Swap system has been around forever, and it has had criticism whenever one-sided groups are formed. The idea comes from the MSL (Wiki)MBCGame StarCraft League (MSL) and even then it produced some outcomes that upset certain fans.

The thing is just that Maru has had no trouble creating a one-sided group because there are barely enough elite players in form to fill the round, and well upsets do happen.

Maru also isn't much of a bragger and doesn't feel pressure to entertain the crowd. So he makes the most rational picks. For other champions rivalries, teammates and ego (I'm the best, I'll win anyway) were important factors in their decision making. Maru doesn't have to prove anything, he just does his thing.

Wonder what Dark would do with the swapping ability
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afreecaTV.Char
Profile Joined December 2014
United States337 Posts
February 22 2019 20:36 GMT
#63
Slight schedule update:

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Elentos
Profile Blog Joined February 2015
55511 Posts
Last Edited: 2019-02-22 20:47:47
February 22 2019 20:47 GMT
#64
I dare say swapping groups around is a bit more than slight
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sneakyfox
Profile Joined January 2017
8216 Posts
February 22 2019 20:52 GMT
#65
Not a good change for TY
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Jerom
Profile Joined April 2011
Netherlands588 Posts
February 24 2019 07:42 GMT
#66
On February 23 2019 03:15 Rodya wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 23 2019 01:29 Charoisaur wrote:
has this swap system always been like this? I don't think I've seen discussions about it being supposedly unfair before 2018

It's just that less great players are playing the game due to lack of practice and migrating to brood war. Swap system has been around forever, and it has had criticism whenever one-sided groups are formed. The idea comes from the MSL (Wiki)MBCGame StarCraft League (MSL) and even then it produced some outcomes that upset certain fans.

The thing is just that Maru has had no trouble creating a one-sided group because there are barely enough elite players in form to fill the round, and well upsets do happen.

"Theres just less great players". Meanwhile group D could literally be RO4 and nobody would be surprised.
Ej_
Profile Blog Joined January 2013
47656 Posts
February 24 2019 07:44 GMT
#67
On February 23 2019 04:45 Charoisaur wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 23 2019 04:42 fronkschnonk wrote:
On February 23 2019 03:15 Rodya wrote:
On February 23 2019 01:29 Charoisaur wrote:
has this swap system always been like this? I don't think I've seen discussions about it being supposedly unfair before 2018

It's just that less great players are playing the game due to lack of practice and migrating to brood war. Swap system has been around forever, and it has had criticism whenever one-sided groups are formed. The idea comes from the MSL (Wiki)MBCGame StarCraft League (MSL) and even then it produced some outcomes that upset certain fans.

The thing is just that Maru has had no trouble creating a one-sided group because there are barely enough elite players in form to fill the round, and well upsets do happen.

Maru also isn't much of a bragger and doesn't feel pressure to entertain the crowd. So he makes the most rational picks. For other champions rivalries, teammates and ego (I'm the best, I'll win anyway) were important factors in their decision making. Maru doesn't have to prove anything, he just does his thing.

Wonder what Dark would do with the swapping ability

Put Classic with soO and INnoVation, while he had first picked Bunny.
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Drake
Profile Joined October 2010
Germany6146 Posts
February 25 2019 08:05 GMT
#68
On February 22 2019 01:50 swarminfestor wrote:
I dont like Maru get the easiest group while Rogue get the hardest group again. Even though Rogue may survives, his mind will be shattered and his beast mode will be toned down just like the two previous code s series before the semifinal.


well thats what happen when ur considered the strongest player and are not top4 so u cant draft a group, you end in the last one most often the strongest one xD
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Waxangel
Profile Blog Joined September 2002
United States33369 Posts
February 25 2019 08:45 GMT
#69
Aside from #1 seed getting two picks, I think the draft order could be tweaked a bit. #2 seed being forced to have the last pick (hardest player) seems rough.
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Pandain
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States12989 Posts
February 25 2019 08:51 GMT
#70
I think first seed should get 4th pick and the swap ability.
Kimb3r
Profile Joined April 2010
Germany744 Posts
February 25 2019 17:56 GMT
#71
Maru should easily advance.. really looking forward to the games!!!
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brickrd
Profile Blog Joined March 2014
United States4894 Posts
February 25 2019 18:04 GMT
#72
On February 23 2019 04:42 fronkschnonk wrote:
Maru also isn't much of a bragger and doesn't feel pressure to entertain the crowd.

maybe not recently, but in his younger days he was certainly known for this
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speakerbox
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Canada453 Posts
February 26 2019 05:54 GMT
#73
Im hoping for some filthy Maru proxies baby
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