The Code S round of 16 groups have been determined following Thursday night's live Group Nomination show (watch the VODs on YouTube). Groups A & D (March 8-9) will be played following IEM Katowice, while Groups B & C (March 20 & 23) will be played after another break for WESG.
Code S RO16 Groups & Schedule (S1 2019)
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The Code S round of 16 groups have been determined following Thursday night's live Group Nomination show (watch the VODs on YouTube). Groups A & D (March 8-9) will be played following IEM Katowice, while Groups B & C (March 20 & 23) will be played after another break for WESG. | ||
Syn Harvest
United States191 Posts
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RealityTheGreat
China564 Posts
Group B:Maybe Dark calm down this time, but result is not consistent.Dear and herO are good at PvZ. Croup C:Classic Trap Innovation sOs Group D:sOs was so lucky that he did not fall in Group D. | ||
fLyiNgDroNe
Belgium3958 Posts
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yubo56
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A: Maru &... Patience? Should be Maru > Impact, Patience > Bunny right? Then Bunny > Impact, Patience > Bunny. I don't recall Bunny's TvP being as strong as his TvZ B: Dark Dear. herO still doesn't seem to be playing particularly well, and I favor Dear > Cure. C: Classic Inno, I think Trap and sOs don't have the best PvT. I'd probably favor sOs > Classic head to head, so it'll depend on the bracket D: Everybody loses except the audience. Betting TY Rogue, since I think TY has stronger TvT than Gumi and all around good TvZ, while Rogue should be favored against Gumiho and against soO. | ||
sneakyfox
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Tchado
Jordan1831 Posts
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Waxangel
United States32499 Posts
On February 22 2019 01:42 sneakyfox wrote: TY gets the group of death. AGAIN. And Maru gets the easiest possible group. Again... Well, the group selection format makes it almost impossible for the #1 seed to get a bad group since you get TWO unquestioned picks. Tough shit for TY tho | ||
swarminfestor
Malaysia2308 Posts
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starkiller123
United States4029 Posts
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Elentos
55454 Posts
On February 22 2019 01:50 Waxangel wrote: Well, the group selection format makes it almost impossible for the #1 seed to get a bad group since you get TWO unquestioned picks. Tough shit for TY tho TY has hard groups every season. At this point he should be used to it. | ||
Rodya
546 Posts
On February 22 2019 01:50 Waxangel wrote: Well, the group selection format makes it almost impossible for the #1 seed to get a bad group since you get TWO unquestioned picks. Tough shit for TY tho I mean if Zest beat Patience, Fantasy beat Impact, and Stats got out of his group, there would be no easy group for Maru to make. Besides, he is guaranteed an elite ro.8 opponent unless Cure gets through. | ||
Elentos
55454 Posts
On February 22 2019 02:10 Rodya wrote: I mean if Zest beat Patience, Fantasy beat Impact, and Stats got out of his group, there would be no easy group for Maru to make. Besides, he is guaranteed an elite ro.8 opponent unless Cure gets through. He made herO look worthless in the Ro32. Don't think Maru is worried about anyone in group B except for Dark. | ||
Pandain
United States12862 Posts
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fishjie
United States1519 Posts
it contains his nemesis who defeat him in finals, plus TY lol | ||
Noonius
Estonia17413 Posts
On February 22 2019 01:42 sneakyfox wrote: TY gets the group of death. AGAIN. And Maru gets the easiest possible group. Again... it's called collusion | ||
kajtarp
Hungary419 Posts
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fLyiNgDroNe
Belgium3958 Posts
On February 22 2019 02:41 kajtarp wrote: TY having a hard group is his fault too. Picking Gumiho first? There were way weaker players available to pick... He was afraid that if he gets the weaker, Maru will replace him with second hardest player in his group, so he picked the one in the "middle range" | ||
kajtarp
Hungary419 Posts
On February 22 2019 02:45 fLyiNgDroNe wrote: He was afraid that if he gets the weaker, Maru will replace him with second hardest player in his group, so he picked the one in the "middle range" Same thing goes for Gumiho when he picked soO. He wasn't the weakest player available to pick by far... | ||
Fango
United Kingdom8807 Posts
On February 22 2019 02:10 Elentos wrote: TY has hard groups every season. At this point he should be used to it. At the same time I think he's only lost in a single group stage out of every LotV tournament. The only group I recall him losing in is GSL S1 ro16 last year. | ||
Pandain
United States12862 Posts
It's a little bit crazy that one of Patience, Bunny, and Impact will be in the round of 8 and one match away from a Ro4. | ||
Nakajin
Canada8772 Posts
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Waxangel
United States32499 Posts
On February 22 2019 02:53 Pandain wrote: Maru obviously gets an insane advantage, but has there ever been a time in GSL history that it's literally been the strongest player and the three weakest in a group? ' It's a little bit crazy that one of Patience, Bunny, and Impact will be in the round of 8 and one match away from a Ro4. Given the group selection order, I think that's what should always happen when everyone is picking "optimally."
This theory only works because there's presently very severe skill stratification in the RO16 so that the 3~4 worst players are obvious to everyone regardless of match-up/race, whereas in years past there was enough parity in the RO16 that the 'worst' player could vary greatly depending on one's preferred match-up/race. | ||
Charoisaur
Germany15616 Posts
On February 22 2019 01:50 swarminfestor wrote: I dont like Maru get the easiest group while Rogue get the hardest group again. Even though Rogue may survives, his mind will be shattered and his beast mode will be toned down just like the two previous code s series before the semifinal. Rogue wouldn't advance past the ro8 anyway. He has a worse record in GSL ro8s than soO has in finals | ||
Elentos
55454 Posts
On February 22 2019 02:48 kajtarp wrote: Same thing goes for Gumiho when he picked soO. He wasn't the weakest player available to pick by far... GuMiho's approach made sense to me though. He wanted to avoid Protoss like the plague (the only "easy" Protoss to pick was Patience who wouldn't have stayed in the group anyway). So he was basically limited to Inno, Cure, soO and Rogue. And then he said he wouldn't pick a Terran because he expected Inno to end up as the final player (so picking Inno would be pointless and picking Cure would just net him a 4 Terran group). He was wrong in the end though, obviously. On February 22 2019 02:51 Fango wrote: At the same time I think he's only lost in a single group stage out of every LotV tournament. The only group I recall him losing in is GSL S1 ro16 last year. Indeed, if that hadn't happened this year TY could have possibly become the first player to reach the Ro8 of GSL 10 times in a row. He's 7 in 8 for LotV. | ||
StarscreamG1
Portugal1652 Posts
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Akio
Finland1824 Posts
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Elentos
55454 Posts
On February 22 2019 04:01 Akio wrote: 2 groups in a day? That's rare Well it's not 2 groups in a day in a real timezone | ||
Pandain
United States12862 Posts
On February 22 2019 03:29 Waxangel wrote: Given the group selection order, I think that's what should always happen when everyone is picking "optimally."
This theory only works because there's presently very severe skill stratification in the RO16 so that the 3~4 worst players are obvious to everyone regardless of match-up/race, whereas in years past there was enough parity in the RO16 that the 'worst' player could vary greatly depending on one's preferred match-up/race. Great point. | ||
Proko
United States1022 Posts
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Vutalisk
United States679 Posts
Group C and D look tough. Just hope soO makes it out. That's all it matters. | ||
ZigguratOfUr
Iraq16955 Posts
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Cricketer12
United States13835 Posts
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sneakyfox
8216 Posts
On February 22 2019 03:41 Elentos wrote: Indeed, if that hadn't happened this year TY could have possibly become the first player to reach the Ro8 of GSL 10 times in a row. He's 7 in 8 for LotV. Yeah it really sucked that he lost that one against Dark and some newcomer called aLive. Would have been sick to have the TY Award for 10 straight quarterfinals. At least he should get the PartinG award next season, but still PS. Very hyped for three of these groups! Ro16 is going to be so sick! | ||
Xain0n
Italy3963 Posts
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Popparockz
United States40 Posts
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sneakyfox
8216 Posts
On February 22 2019 06:47 Xain0n wrote: Bunny is not the weakest Terran player left Well, in TvT he is the weakest and that is what matters regarding Maru | ||
BisuDagger
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Geo.Rion
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pvsnp
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On February 22 2019 06:47 Xain0n wrote: Bunny is not the weakest Terran player left and I find unlikely that Rogue will never reach Code S semifinals. He isn't? I guess Cure is not a top Terran either, but he always struck me as more well-rounded. Bunny seems very predictable with lots of drops and his TvT is meh. | ||
Shuffleblade
Sweden1903 Posts
On February 22 2019 07:12 Geo.Rion wrote: can anyone give me a quick rundown how Inno ended up with 3 P in his group? cant really watch the vod right now Classic only preferred P so he chose Trap, Trap was considering a Terran and Cure didn't want to get picked into the group and therefore Trap picked Inno. Rogue begged to be picked by Inno and he taunted him hard but Inno said he would prefer to practise only one matchup and picked sOs. | ||
pvsnp
7676 Posts
On February 22 2019 06:52 Popparockz wrote: innovation already showed amazing TvP in the Ro32, so I expect him to crush that group. "Amazing" against Hurricane and Creator? Inno's TvP looks fairly solid, but Classic, Trap, and sOs are a lot stronger than his Ro32 opponents. | ||
SHODAN
United Kingdom1049 Posts
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T-D-V-D
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Xain0n
Italy3963 Posts
On February 22 2019 07:30 pvsnp wrote: He isn't? I guess Cure is not a top Terran either, but he always struck me as more well-rounded. Bunny seems very predictable with lots of drops and his TvT is meh. TvT is historically his weakest matchup, it's true. However, Bunny has been performing quite well since HSC and his form is better than Cure's and Gumiho's: surviving the arguably toughest Code S group and, most importantly, directly qualifying for IEM seem respectable feats to me. He showed nice mech play in addiction to his drop heavy style. | ||
It's britney bitch
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Shellshock
United States97248 Posts
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Zerg.Zilla
Hungary5029 Posts
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bObA
France300 Posts
On February 22 2019 01:01 Syn Harvest wrote: Holy fuck Groups C and D are ridiculous. Those should be some great series. indeed !!! | ||
byte-Curious
Mexico107 Posts
On February 22 2019 01:42 sneakyfox wrote: TY gets the group of death. AGAIN. And Maru gets the easiest possible group. Again... No group that has Maru in it can be called easy. | ||
Shuffleblade
Sweden1903 Posts
On February 22 2019 17:58 byte-Curious wrote: No group that has Maru in it can be called easy. If only one player advances I would agree, but two people advance. Marus group is probably the easiest in GSL history | ||
sneakyfox
8216 Posts
On February 22 2019 17:58 byte-Curious wrote: No group that has Maru in it can be called easy. Yes, for Maru it is, which was the point. | ||
Rodya
546 Posts
On February 22 2019 07:12 BisuDagger wrote: Serral and Maru are being spoon fed the group stages. They better be ready for when they meet top tier players. It's funny because Maru's last ro16 group (which people also said was insanely easy) included Reynor and Neeb, who are arguably the toughest opponents Serral can get in WCS. I mean there's no one who you'd say is stronger or outclasses them. | ||
BisuDagger
Bisutopia19033 Posts
On February 22 2019 20:10 Rodya wrote: It's funny because Maru's last ro16 group (which people also said was insanely easy) included Reynor and Neeb, who are arguably the toughest opponents Serral can get in WCS. I mean there's no one who you'd say is stronger or outclasses them. I'm only referring to this WCS/GSL season. :D | ||
Edpayasugo
United Kingdom2206 Posts
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pichoo
Australia123 Posts
On February 22 2019 20:10 Rodya wrote: It's funny because Maru's last ro16 group (which people also said was insanely easy) included Reynor and Neeb, who are arguably the toughest opponents Serral can get in WCS. I mean there's no one who you'd say is stronger or outclasses them. So Maru underestimated Reynor that time. He could've lost the set. | ||
Charoisaur
Germany15616 Posts
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Rodya
546 Posts
On February 23 2019 01:29 Charoisaur wrote: has this swap system always been like this? I don't think I've seen discussions about it being supposedly unfair before 2018 It's just that less great players are playing the game due to lack of practice and migrating to brood war. Swap system has been around forever, and it has had criticism whenever one-sided groups are formed. The idea comes from the MSL MBCGame StarCraft League (MSL) and even then it produced some outcomes that upset certain fans. The thing is just that Maru has had no trouble creating a one-sided group because there are barely enough elite players in form to fill the round, and well upsets do happen. | ||
Waxangel
United States32499 Posts
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fronkschnonk
Germany622 Posts
On February 23 2019 03:15 Rodya wrote: It's just that less great players are playing the game due to lack of practice and migrating to brood war. Swap system has been around forever, and it has had criticism whenever one-sided groups are formed. The idea comes from the MSL MBCGame StarCraft League (MSL) and even then it produced some outcomes that upset certain fans. The thing is just that Maru has had no trouble creating a one-sided group because there are barely enough elite players in form to fill the round, and well upsets do happen. Maru also isn't much of a bragger and doesn't feel pressure to entertain the crowd. So he makes the most rational picks. For other champions rivalries, teammates and ego (I'm the best, I'll win anyway) were important factors in their decision making. Maru doesn't have to prove anything, he just does his thing. | ||
Mun_Su
France2063 Posts
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Charoisaur
Germany15616 Posts
On February 23 2019 04:42 fronkschnonk wrote: Maru also isn't much of a bragger and doesn't feel pressure to entertain the crowd. So he makes the most rational picks. For other champions rivalries, teammates and ego (I'm the best, I'll win anyway) were important factors in their decision making. Maru doesn't have to prove anything, he just does his thing. Wonder what Dark would do with the swapping ability | ||
afreecaTV.Char
United States330 Posts
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Elentos
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sneakyfox
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Jerom
Netherlands588 Posts
On February 23 2019 03:15 Rodya wrote: It's just that less great players are playing the game due to lack of practice and migrating to brood war. Swap system has been around forever, and it has had criticism whenever one-sided groups are formed. The idea comes from the MSL MBCGame StarCraft League (MSL) and even then it produced some outcomes that upset certain fans. The thing is just that Maru has had no trouble creating a one-sided group because there are barely enough elite players in form to fill the round, and well upsets do happen. "Theres just less great players". Meanwhile group D could literally be RO4 and nobody would be surprised. | ||
Ej_
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On February 23 2019 04:45 Charoisaur wrote: Wonder what Dark would do with the swapping ability Put Classic with soO and INnoVation, while he had first picked Bunny. | ||
Drake
Germany6146 Posts
On February 22 2019 01:50 swarminfestor wrote: I dont like Maru get the easiest group while Rogue get the hardest group again. Even though Rogue may survives, his mind will be shattered and his beast mode will be toned down just like the two previous code s series before the semifinal. well thats what happen when ur considered the strongest player and are not top4 so u cant draft a group, you end in the last one most often the strongest one xD | ||
Waxangel
United States32499 Posts
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Pandain
United States12862 Posts
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Kimb3r
Germany744 Posts
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brickrd
United States4894 Posts
On February 23 2019 04:42 fronkschnonk wrote: Maru also isn't much of a bragger and doesn't feel pressure to entertain the crowd. maybe not recently, but in his younger days he was certainly known for this | ||
speakerbox
Canada453 Posts
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