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On January 26 2019 22:46 Zzoram wrote:Show nested quote +On January 26 2019 21:59 rednusa wrote:
With Scarlett qualifying, is she removing herself from WCS? This is the biggest question for me out of these results. Maybe she feels strong enough to go for glory over easy money.
I think she repeatedly said that she likes it in Korea personally? So in that regard her decision to compete there since she is already living there isn't that weird. I mean WCS money is great, but is not even guaranteed for her in any regard considering she wasn't dominant for a long time and I would guess travelling round the WCS events isn't cheap either.
Nevertheless, I still have a big respect for her for doing that. GSL is still the top competition and no matter what foreigner fans say, WCS players just play in their own gated kindergarten playground. Yes, Serral would have been probably be a serious contender for GSL if he played in it, but he is a huge outlier.
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a LOT of upcoming korean players tried to qualify. sadly none of them made it, but now they have an incentive to practise even more with foreigners gone for the most part and price money being less top centered. excited to see what Season 2 will bring.
still sad for DRG and dream :/
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Pretty much all usual names made it except for Trap.
Great to see MC and PartinG made it. Love to see them live on stage.
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BTW, so is it not true GSL blocking foreigners? Look like Scarlett made it and she is in WCS Winter too. Doesn't look like it is a problem.
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Canada8991 Posts
On January 26 2019 23:14 Vutalisk wrote:
Pretty much all usual names made it except for Trap.
Great to see MC and PartinG made it. Love to see them live on stage.
Trap is in!
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On January 26 2019 23:22 Vutalisk wrote:
BTW, so is it not true GSL blocking foreigners? Look like Scarlett made it and she is in WCS Winter too. Doesn't look like it is a problem.
Seems like it's with WCS Challenger Circuit and GSL/WCS Korea Circuit, Winter is outside of that. It's weird though, loads of people are wanting some official statement.
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I wish Taeja and Bomber will qualify for the next one. They were so close.
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On January 26 2019 22:46 Zzoram wrote:Show nested quote +On January 26 2019 21:59 rednusa wrote:
With Scarlett qualifying, is she removing herself from WCS? This is the biggest question for me out of these results. Maybe she feels strong enough to go for glory over easy WCS points and money. GSL Code S actually potentially pays out a lot better than WCS though. If Scarlett makes it to the Ro16 GSL (not guaranteed she will) that’s the same money as 5-6th place for WCS America (she definitely would).
Chances to go to BlizzCon are thinner in Korea though.
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On January 26 2019 21:42 Charoisaur wrote:Show nested quote +On January 26 2019 21:37 opisska wrote:On January 26 2019 21:35 Charoisaur wrote:On January 26 2019 20:40 opisska wrote:
Man, driving out the foreigners has surely helped the new blood to get in! Well the returners made it harder for them to qualify but at least they have a better chance now than if there were an additional 10 top foreigners in the qualifiers. C'mon, this was somewhat acceptable as an opinion before we had any actual data, but how can you say this with a straight face after we had a qualifier almost devoid of foreigners, with just one spot being taken by a foreigner and yet ZERO new people? I don't know what's so hard to understand about what I wrote. With MC, Fantasy, DRG, Dream, Bomber and TaeJa there are 6 ex top players who weren't in the qualifiers the last two years. It's not that much of a surprise no newcomers qualified. If the semi region lock would have been in place last year already the chance for new players to qualify would have been much higher. Acting like the foreigner invasion didn't hurt korean new blood is just disingenuos. TLDR The last two years there was place in Code S for newcomers if it wasn't for foreigners. Now unfortunately not anymore because the player pool increased with the returners. But they still have a better shot than they would have without the semi-region-lock.
Let's then take a look at what happened in Code S qualifiers last two years!
I am listing which foreigners qualified and at the expense at which korean player, considering qualifier matches only(and ignoring the foreigner who lost when there was no korean player in the qualifier match); It's unlikely that someone losing to a foreigner in the first matches could have proceed to beat the other koreans players who ultimately eliminated said foreigners in the qualified, if those were absent.
S1 2017-Scarlett instead of Seed; S2 2017-SpeCial, Scarlett instead of Hurricane, herO.
S3 2017-SpeCial, Scarlett, TIME, Elazer, NoRegreT instead of Seed, Myungsik, Zest, Prince, Impact.
S1 2018-Scarlett, NoRegreT, SortOf instead of Patience, Patience(lol), Rookie.
S2 2018-Scarlett, Zanster, SortOf, Elazer instead of Bunny, Ragnarok, herO, Hurricane.
S3 2018-Reynor, Neeb, SpeCial instead of Trust, Byul, Patience ; S1 2019-Scarlett instead of Bomber.
Foreigners qualified nineteen times in seven seasons; I don't think that's too massive of a representation
However, the koreans who were denied their Code S spot were mostly mid-level players who don't always pass the qualifiers and former champs past their primes or in a slump; only twice a foreigner took the place of a korean up and comer: Elazer beating Prince and SortOf beating Rookie.
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Another double post, I'm sorry. I keep accidentally quoting instead of editing...
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I'm not sure you can extrapolate who was 'blocked' in that manner because all the groups would have been seeded very differently without all the foreigners in the qualifier.
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On January 27 2019 01:46 Kalera wrote:
I'm not sure you can extrapolate who was 'blocked' in that manner because all the groups would have been seeded very differently without all the foreigners in the qualifier.
This was not my intention; I was just trying to point out who was directly prevented to qualify given the actual brackets(foreigners included).
If the qualifying match was foreigner vs foreigner, i looked at the last korean defeated by the losing foreigner; of course the qualifiers would have been entirely different if no foreigner was present but the very composition of Code S could be very different.
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Having said all of that, I don't think any amateur player has a hope of ever making Code S as long as there are 32 (ex-)pros in Korea.
It's just a matter of whether you feel the spot not occupied by KR pros should go to actual progamers (albeit not Korean) or KR amateurs.
To elaborate on that, I also do not think the Korean scene can be nurtured in any way for the Korean amateurs to grow, the gap is massive and there's few amateurs willing to actually compete.
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United Kingdom10443 Posts
oh man upset DRG couldn't make it.
Dark, Losira and MC all getting through is sick though
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On January 26 2019 22:46 Zzoram wrote:Show nested quote +On January 26 2019 21:59 rednusa wrote:
With Scarlett qualifying, is she removing herself from WCS? This is the biggest question for me out of these results. Maybe she feels strong enough to go for glory over easy WCS points and money. GSL Code S actually potentially pays out a lot better than WCS though. If Scarlett makes it to the Ro16 GSL (not guaranteed she will) that’s the same money as 5-6th place for WCS America (she definitely would).
yea wish someone would clarify the situation
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Can't believe Taeja did not make it, happy for Fantasy and MC though.
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On January 26 2019 20:37 TeamLiquid ESPORTS wrote:
Code S Season 1 is set to begin on February 2nd with the first RO32 match.
is there a broadcast schedule for February 2019 ?
EDIT: it goes from Feb 2 to April 13.. that is good news. Therefore, they are NOT cramming 1 season into 1 massive 3 day weekend of 14 hours per day of gaming.
BIG WIN.
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