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Code S Qualifiers conclude (2019 Season 1) - Page 3

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Elentos
Profile Blog Joined February 2015
55560 Posts
Last Edited: 2019-01-26 19:23:41
January 26 2019 19:19 GMT
#41
On January 27 2019 04:07 JimmyJRaynor wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 26 2019 20:37 TeamLiquid ESPORTS wrote:
Code S Season 1 is set to begin on February 2nd with the first RO32 match.

is there a broadcast schedule for February 2019 ?

Not yet, but there's two options basically. Either they go on break during the Ro32 for Katowice, or they condense it to finish beforehand. In the first case, GSL would probably be on the 2nd, 6th, 9th, 12th, 16th, and 20th. In the 2nd case, 2 extra dates would be added.

E: Actually they could have a break on the 6th because the 5th is Lunar New Year
Every 60 seconds in Africa, a minute passes.
EEk1TwEEk
Profile Joined June 2017
Russian Federation183 Posts
January 26 2019 20:22 GMT
#42
Thought Dream is retired
I wish him the best of luck in 2019, hope to see him back!
This man suffers from a bad heart, but I have plenty of medicine.
Elentos
Profile Blog Joined February 2015
55560 Posts
January 26 2019 20:33 GMT
#43
On January 27 2019 05:22 EEk1TwEEk wrote:
Thought Dream is retired

His military service either recently finished or is about to finish.
Every 60 seconds in Africa, a minute passes.
BaneRiders
Profile Joined August 2013
Sweden3630 Posts
January 26 2019 21:37 GMT
#44
On January 27 2019 01:55 Ej_ wrote:
Having said all of that, I don't think any amateur player has a hope of ever making Code S as long as there are 32 (ex-)pros in Korea.

It's just a matter of whether you feel the spot not occupied by KR pros should go to actual progamers (albeit not Korean) or KR amateurs.
To elaborate on that, I also do not think the Korean scene can be nurtured in any way for the Korean amateurs to grow, the gap is massive and there's few amateurs willing to actually compete.


Well, look at those that qualified for both EU and NA WCS winter, perhaps EU in particular. Quite a few new youngsters there among the qualified, upcoming players like Goblin, SoulSpirit, Skillous etc., giving the old guard a hard time. Harstem was on the ropes to make it through. I bet they've all played Serral, Showtime, UThermal and the rest of the top dogs a few times on the ladder and learned a thing or two. Surely the same thing could happen in KR?
Earth, Water, Air and Protoss!
BaneRiders
Profile Joined August 2013
Sweden3630 Posts
January 26 2019 21:39 GMT
#45
On January 26 2019 23:35 blunderfulguy wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 26 2019 23:22 Vutalisk wrote:
BTW, so is it not true GSL blocking foreigners? Look like Scarlett made it and she is in WCS Winter too. Doesn't look like it is a problem.

Seems like it's with WCS Challenger Circuit and GSL/WCS Korea Circuit, Winter is outside of that. It's weird though, loads of people are wanting some official statement.


That just sounds too weird. Is it a fact that foreigners were told off to compete in GSL? Did anyone tweet about it or something?
Earth, Water, Air and Protoss!
William paradise
Profile Blog Joined April 2014
1753 Posts
January 26 2019 22:07 GMT
#46
On January 27 2019 06:39 BaneRiders wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 26 2019 23:35 blunderfulguy wrote:
On January 26 2019 23:22 Vutalisk wrote:
BTW, so is it not true GSL blocking foreigners? Look like Scarlett made it and she is in WCS Winter too. Doesn't look like it is a problem.

Seems like it's with WCS Challenger Circuit and GSL/WCS Korea Circuit, Winter is outside of that. It's weird though, loads of people are wanting some official statement.


That just sounds too weird. Is it a fact that foreigners were told off to compete in GSL? Did anyone tweet about it or something?

TIME maybe was told he couldn't compete in wcs though a email.
ok
Shellshock
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States97276 Posts
January 26 2019 22:20 GMT
#47
SHURRAAAAA
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BaneRiders
Profile Joined August 2013
Sweden3630 Posts
January 26 2019 22:21 GMT
#48
On January 27 2019 07:07 William paradise wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 27 2019 06:39 BaneRiders wrote:
On January 26 2019 23:35 blunderfulguy wrote:
On January 26 2019 23:22 Vutalisk wrote:
BTW, so is it not true GSL blocking foreigners? Look like Scarlett made it and she is in WCS Winter too. Doesn't look like it is a problem.

Seems like it's with WCS Challenger Circuit and GSL/WCS Korea Circuit, Winter is outside of that. It's weird though, loads of people are wanting some official statement.


That just sounds too weird. Is it a fact that foreigners were told off to compete in GSL? Did anyone tweet about it or something?

TIME maybe was told he couldn't compete in wcs though a email.


That I don't get. Why could Sortof and Scarlet but not time?
Earth, Water, Air and Protoss!
Elentos
Profile Blog Joined February 2015
55560 Posts
January 26 2019 22:24 GMT
#49
On January 27 2019 07:21 BaneRiders wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 27 2019 07:07 William paradise wrote:
On January 27 2019 06:39 BaneRiders wrote:
On January 26 2019 23:35 blunderfulguy wrote:
On January 26 2019 23:22 Vutalisk wrote:
BTW, so is it not true GSL blocking foreigners? Look like Scarlett made it and she is in WCS Winter too. Doesn't look like it is a problem.

Seems like it's with WCS Challenger Circuit and GSL/WCS Korea Circuit, Winter is outside of that. It's weird though, loads of people are wanting some official statement.


That just sounds too weird. Is it a fact that foreigners were told off to compete in GSL? Did anyone tweet about it or something?

TIME maybe was told he couldn't compete in wcs though a email.


That I don't get. Why could Sortof and Scarlet but not time?

Nobody gets it. Nobody will get it until we get the full rule set for 2019 WCS from Blizzard. If we're lucky we might have that by 2020.
Every 60 seconds in Africa, a minute passes.
BaneRiders
Profile Joined August 2013
Sweden3630 Posts
January 26 2019 22:29 GMT
#50
On January 27 2019 07:24 Elentos wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 27 2019 07:21 BaneRiders wrote:
On January 27 2019 07:07 William paradise wrote:
On January 27 2019 06:39 BaneRiders wrote:
On January 26 2019 23:35 blunderfulguy wrote:
On January 26 2019 23:22 Vutalisk wrote:
BTW, so is it not true GSL blocking foreigners? Look like Scarlett made it and she is in WCS Winter too. Doesn't look like it is a problem.

Seems like it's with WCS Challenger Circuit and GSL/WCS Korea Circuit, Winter is outside of that. It's weird though, loads of people are wanting some official statement.


That just sounds too weird. Is it a fact that foreigners were told off to compete in GSL? Did anyone tweet about it or something?

TIME maybe was told he couldn't compete in wcs though a email.


That I don't get. Why could Sortof and Scarlet but not time?

Nobody gets it. Nobody will get it until we get the full rule set for 2019 WCS from Blizzard. If we're lucky we might have that by 2020.


Well, let's have a glass of whisky in the meantime then...

A bit OT, but perhaps related due to the communication difficulties we're suffering from: where is WCS EU and WCS NA taking place? The offline parts that is.
Earth, Water, Air and Protoss!
Shura
Profile Joined November 2010
France54 Posts
January 26 2019 22:29 GMT
#51
On January 27 2019 07:20 Shellshock wrote:
SHURRAAAAA


Yes ?
Crocolisk Dundee
Profile Blog Joined October 2015
870 Posts
January 26 2019 22:45 GMT
#52
On January 27 2019 02:41 Lorning wrote:
Creator


Seconding this. Hope he can show a similar performance as in Super Tournament 2 in 2018.
Stopped watching ESL content in 2022 when the company was acquired by Savvy Gaming Group. Also object to sponsorships by the U.S. Air Force. Thanks for the lively discussions about sportswashing. StarCraft II is not for me anymore.
William paradise
Profile Blog Joined April 2014
1753 Posts
January 26 2019 23:50 GMT
#53
On January 27 2019 07:24 Elentos wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 27 2019 07:21 BaneRiders wrote:
On January 27 2019 07:07 William paradise wrote:
On January 27 2019 06:39 BaneRiders wrote:
On January 26 2019 23:35 blunderfulguy wrote:
On January 26 2019 23:22 Vutalisk wrote:
BTW, so is it not true GSL blocking foreigners? Look like Scarlett made it and she is in WCS Winter too. Doesn't look like it is a problem.

Seems like it's with WCS Challenger Circuit and GSL/WCS Korea Circuit, Winter is outside of that. It's weird though, loads of people are wanting some official statement.


That just sounds too weird. Is it a fact that foreigners were told off to compete in GSL? Did anyone tweet about it or something?

TIME maybe was told he couldn't compete in wcs though a email.


That I don't get. Why could Sortof and Scarlet but not time?

Nobody gets it. Nobody will get it until we get the full rule set for 2019 WCS from Blizzard. If we're lucky we might have that by 2020.

lol that was just funny
ok
Xamo
Profile Joined April 2012
Spain881 Posts
January 27 2019 00:26 GMT
#54
Scarlett vs Bomber in the qualifiers... what a déjà vu.
My life for Aiur. You got a piece of me, baby. IIIIIIiiiiiii.
gophersnake
Profile Joined July 2018
48 Posts
January 27 2019 00:30 GMT
#55
On January 26 2019 20:40 opisska wrote:
Man, driving out the foreigners has surely helped the new blood to get in!


Ya it's good to see the fresh korean talent finally rising up and getting to play on the big stage. No more 3 non-korean players robbing their scene of it's round of 32 money.
ShambhalaWar
Profile Joined August 2013
United States930 Posts
January 27 2019 01:00 GMT
#56
GO SCARLETT!
DjKniteX
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States241 Posts
January 27 2019 05:48 GMT
#57
My man MC back in the game! Awesome to see Scarlett in it again; I'll be rooting for FanTaSy as well
"You know my methods.... Apply them"
parrotpitaya
Profile Joined January 2019
Germany37 Posts
January 27 2019 10:05 GMT
#58
Nice scarlett....what I saw MC?!
Kikirik1
Profile Joined January 2017
45 Posts
January 27 2019 11:48 GMT
#59
On January 27 2019 01:42 Xain0n wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 26 2019 21:42 Charoisaur wrote:
On January 26 2019 21:37 opisska wrote:
On January 26 2019 21:35 Charoisaur wrote:
On January 26 2019 20:40 opisska wrote:
Man, driving out the foreigners has surely helped the new blood to get in!

Well the returners made it harder for them to qualify but at least they have a better chance now than if there were an additional 10 top foreigners in the qualifiers.


C'mon, this was somewhat acceptable as an opinion before we had any actual data, but how can you say this with a straight face after we had a qualifier almost devoid of foreigners, with just one spot being taken by a foreigner and yet ZERO new people?

I don't know what's so hard to understand about what I wrote. With MC, Fantasy, DRG, Dream, Bomber and TaeJa there are 6 ex top players who weren't in the qualifiers the last two years. It's not that much of a surprise no newcomers qualified.
If the semi region lock would have been in place last year already the chance for new players to qualify would have been much higher. Acting like the foreigner invasion didn't hurt korean new blood is just disingenuos.

TLDR The last two years there was place in Code S for newcomers if it wasn't for foreigners. Now unfortunately not anymore because the player pool increased with the returners. But they still have a better shot than they would have without the semi-region-lock.


Let's then take a look at what happened in Code S qualifiers last two years!

I am listing which foreigners qualified and at the expense at which korean player, considering qualifier matches only(and ignoring the foreigner who lost when there was no korean player in the qualifier match); It's unlikely that someone losing to a foreigner in the first matches could have proceed to beat the other koreans players who ultimately eliminated said foreigners in the qualified, if those were absent.

S1 2017-Scarlett instead of Seed; S2 2017-SpeCial, Scarlett instead of Hurricane, herO.

S3 2017-SpeCial, Scarlett, TIME, Elazer, NoRegreT instead of Seed, Myungsik, Zest, Prince, Impact.

S1 2018-Scarlett, NoRegreT, SortOf instead of Patience, Patience(lol), Rookie.

S2 2018-Scarlett, Zanster, SortOf, Elazer instead of Bunny, Ragnarok, herO, Hurricane.

S3 2018-Reynor, Neeb, SpeCial instead of Trust, Byul, Patience ; S1 2019-Scarlett instead of Bomber.

Foreigners qualified nineteen times in seven seasons; I don't think that's too massive of a representation
However, the koreans who were denied their Code S spot were mostly mid-level players who don't always pass the qualifiers and former champs past their primes or in a slump; only twice a foreigner took the place of a korean up and comer: Elazer beating Prince and SortOf beating Rookie.




Byul retire after that, and Patience is still patiently wait.....
deacon.frost
Profile Joined February 2013
Czech Republic12129 Posts
January 27 2019 14:19 GMT
#60
On January 27 2019 09:30 gophersnake wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 26 2019 20:40 opisska wrote:
Man, driving out the foreigners has surely helped the new blood to get in!


Ya it's good to see the fresh korean talent finally rising up and getting to play on the big stage. No more 3 non-korean players robbing their scene of it's round of 32 money.

Well the last season we saw how they robbed the ro32 mon... oh, wait a minute!! At least don't lie
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