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Code S Qualifiers conclude (2019 Season 1)

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TL.net ESPORTS
Profile Joined July 2011
4 Posts
Last Edited: 2019-01-28 11:10:23
January 26 2019 11:37 GMT
#1
The qualifier for the first GSL Code S season of 2019 has concluded. The following players have qualified:



Dream, DongRaeGu, TaeJa, Bomber, TOP, SortOf, and Cloudy were among the notable players who were eliminated in qualifiers. Code S Season 1 is set to begin on February 2nd with the first RO32 match.

Check out qualifier brackets on Liquipedia
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DeFNos
Profile Joined April 2013
Netherlands11 Posts
Last Edited: 2019-01-26 11:42:49
January 26 2019 11:39 GMT
#2
Seeing MC qualify is great!
Too bad he had to do that over SortOf
opisska
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Poland8852 Posts
January 26 2019 11:40 GMT
#3
Man, driving out the foreigners has surely helped the new blood to get in!
"Jeez, that's far from ideal." - Serral, the king of mild trashtalk
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Toua
Profile Joined February 2017
Denmark318 Posts
January 26 2019 11:42 GMT
#4
Classic and Losira getting the NesTea Award !
Stats, Dark, Maru <3
Snarosc
Profile Joined January 2016
France66 Posts
Last Edited: 2019-01-26 11:46:49
January 26 2019 11:44 GMT
#5
Amazing to see MC & PartinG are back !

Very sad for Bomber, who was in Scarlett and Keen's group... Wished he'd make it. And I hope he'll train to make it to S2 and not just give up on coming back.

Sad about DongRaeGu aswell, after losing in the qualifying match in both days, especially after taking out Dark in Day1 ...
Stats is the best player of LotV.
Nakajin
Profile Blog Joined September 2014
Canada8989 Posts
January 26 2019 11:48 GMT
#6
What's up with Classic, I tought he was gone?
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lechatnoir
Profile Joined November 2016
392 Posts
January 26 2019 11:49 GMT
#7
Quite a few amateurs this time, comparatively speaking. Got all demolished though but great that they tried!
Akio
Profile Blog Joined January 2019
Finland1838 Posts
Last Edited: 2019-01-26 12:06:56
January 26 2019 12:05 GMT
#8
FanTaSy and MC making their return in Code S!

Also I am extremely hyped to see Leenock this season, last season he was looking super good but everyone kind of forgot after he lost one-sidesly to TY in the ro8, due to his surgery. (Not saying he would have 100% won, but it would have been more close)

Leenocktopus fighting~
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Elentos
Profile Blog Joined February 2015
55566 Posts
January 26 2019 12:15 GMT
#9
On January 26 2019 20:48 Nakajin wrote:
What's up with Classic, I tought he was gone?

2019 is his last year.
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Charoisaur
Profile Joined August 2014
Germany16038 Posts
January 26 2019 12:35 GMT
#10
On January 26 2019 20:40 opisska wrote:
Man, driving out the foreigners has surely helped the new blood to get in!

Well the returners made it harder for them to qualify but at least they have a better chance now than if there were an additional 10 top foreigners in the qualifiers.
Many of the coolest moments in sc2 happen due to worker harassment
opisska
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Poland8852 Posts
January 26 2019 12:37 GMT
#11
On January 26 2019 21:35 Charoisaur wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 26 2019 20:40 opisska wrote:
Man, driving out the foreigners has surely helped the new blood to get in!

Well the returners made it harder for them to qualify but at least they have a better chance now than if there were an additional 10 top foreigners in the qualifiers.


C'mon, this was somewhat acceptable as an opinion before we had any actual data, but how can you say this with a straight face after we had a qualifier almost devoid of foreigners, with just one spot being taken by a foreigner and yet ZERO new people?
"Jeez, that's far from ideal." - Serral, the king of mild trashtalk
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Charoisaur
Profile Joined August 2014
Germany16038 Posts
Last Edited: 2019-01-26 12:46:44
January 26 2019 12:42 GMT
#12
On January 26 2019 21:37 opisska wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 26 2019 21:35 Charoisaur wrote:
On January 26 2019 20:40 opisska wrote:
Man, driving out the foreigners has surely helped the new blood to get in!

Well the returners made it harder for them to qualify but at least they have a better chance now than if there were an additional 10 top foreigners in the qualifiers.


C'mon, this was somewhat acceptable as an opinion before we had any actual data, but how can you say this with a straight face after we had a qualifier almost devoid of foreigners, with just one spot being taken by a foreigner and yet ZERO new people?

I don't know what's so hard to understand about what I wrote. With MC, Fantasy, DRG, Dream, Bomber and TaeJa there are 6 ex top players who weren't in the qualifiers the last two years. It's not that much of a surprise no newcomers qualified.
If the semi region lock would have been in place last year already the chance for new players to qualify would have been much higher. Acting like the foreigner invasion didn't hurt korean new blood is just disingenuos.

TLDR The last two years there was place in Code S for newcomers if it wasn't for foreigners. Now unfortunately not anymore because the player pool increased with the returners. But they still have a better shot than they would have without the semi-region-lock.
Many of the coolest moments in sc2 happen due to worker harassment
rednusa
Profile Joined October 2012
651 Posts
January 26 2019 12:59 GMT
#13
With Scarlett qualifying, is she removing herself from WCS?
opisska
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Poland8852 Posts
January 26 2019 13:06 GMT
#14
On January 26 2019 21:42 Charoisaur wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 26 2019 21:37 opisska wrote:
On January 26 2019 21:35 Charoisaur wrote:
On January 26 2019 20:40 opisska wrote:
Man, driving out the foreigners has surely helped the new blood to get in!

Well the returners made it harder for them to qualify but at least they have a better chance now than if there were an additional 10 top foreigners in the qualifiers.


C'mon, this was somewhat acceptable as an opinion before we had any actual data, but how can you say this with a straight face after we had a qualifier almost devoid of foreigners, with just one spot being taken by a foreigner and yet ZERO new people?

I don't know what's so hard to understand about what I wrote. With MC, Fantasy, DRG, Dream, Bomber and TaeJa there are 6 ex top players who weren't in the qualifiers the last two years. It's not that much of a surprise no newcomers qualified.
If the semi region lock would have been in place last year already the chance for new players to qualify would have been much higher. Acting like the foreigner invasion didn't hurt korean new blood is just disingenuos.

TLDR The last two years there was place in Code S for newcomers if it wasn't for foreigners. Now unfortunately not anymore because the player pool increased with the returners. But they still have a better shot than they would have without the semi-region-lock.


I am already curious where are you going to move the goalposts next year (assuming there is a GSL 2020, that is).
"Jeez, that's far from ideal." - Serral, the king of mild trashtalk
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Cricketer12
Profile Blog Joined May 2012
United States13990 Posts
January 26 2019 13:14 GMT
#15
DRG noooooo
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SaintTieum
Profile Joined November 2018
South Africa22 Posts
January 26 2019 13:22 GMT
#16
So glad (T)Bunny is through.
Nakajin
Profile Blog Joined September 2014
Canada8989 Posts
January 26 2019 13:28 GMT
#17
On January 26 2019 21:15 Elentos wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 26 2019 20:48 Nakajin wrote:
What's up with Classic, I tought he was gone?

2019 is his last year.


Yay!!!!!

One more year of Classic
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Zzoram
Profile Joined February 2008
Canada7115 Posts
Last Edited: 2019-01-26 13:49:50
January 26 2019 13:46 GMT
#18
On January 26 2019 21:59 rednusa wrote:
With Scarlett qualifying, is she removing herself from WCS?


This is the biggest question for me out of these results.

Maybe she feels strong enough to go for glory over easy WCS points and money.

GSL Code S actually potentially pays out a lot better than WCS though. If Scarlett makes it to the Ro16 GSL (not guaranteed she will) that’s the same money as 5-6th place for WCS America (she definitely would).
sparklyresidue
Profile Joined August 2011
United States5523 Posts
January 26 2019 13:47 GMT
#19
Excited to see Fantasy back!
Like Tinkerbelle, I leave behind a sparkly residue.
AlgeriaT
Profile Joined April 2010
Sweden2197 Posts
January 26 2019 13:49 GMT
#20
Fuck yeah Fanta and Scarlett

On January 26 2019 21:59 rednusa wrote:
With Scarlett qualifying, is she removing herself from WCS?


This is what I want to know too. God damnit Blizz how about some clarity on this :/
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opisska
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Poland8852 Posts
January 26 2019 13:54 GMT
#21
On January 26 2019 22:46 Zzoram wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 26 2019 21:59 rednusa wrote:
With Scarlett qualifying, is she removing herself from WCS?


This is the biggest question for me out of these results.

Maybe she feels strong enough to go for glory over easy money.


I think she repeatedly said that she likes it in Korea personally? So in that regard her decision to compete there since she is already living there isn't that weird. I mean WCS money is great, but is not even guaranteed for her in any regard considering she wasn't dominant for a long time and I would guess travelling round the WCS events isn't cheap either.

Nevertheless, I still have a big respect for her for doing that. GSL is still the top competition and no matter what foreigner fans say, WCS players just play in their own gated kindergarten playground. Yes, Serral would have been probably be a serious contender for GSL if he played in it, but he is a huge outlier.
"Jeez, that's far from ideal." - Serral, the king of mild trashtalk
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freelifeffs
Profile Joined April 2018
97 Posts
January 26 2019 14:05 GMT
#22
a LOT of upcoming korean players tried to qualify. sadly none of them made it, but now they have an incentive to practise even more with foreigners gone for the most part and price money being less top centered. excited to see what Season 2 will bring.

still sad for DRG and dream :/
Vutalisk
Profile Joined August 2016
United States680 Posts
January 26 2019 14:14 GMT
#23
Pretty much all usual names made it except for Trap.

Great to see MC and PartinG made it. Love to see them live on stage.
Vutalisk
Profile Joined August 2016
United States680 Posts
January 26 2019 14:22 GMT
#24
BTW, so is it not true GSL blocking foreigners? Look like Scarlett made it and she is in WCS Winter too. Doesn't look like it is a problem.
Nakajin
Profile Blog Joined September 2014
Canada8989 Posts
January 26 2019 14:23 GMT
#25
On January 26 2019 23:14 Vutalisk wrote:
Pretty much all usual names made it except for Trap.

Great to see MC and PartinG made it. Love to see them live on stage.


Trap is in!
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blunderfulguy
Profile Blog Joined April 2016
United States1415 Posts
January 26 2019 14:35 GMT
#26
On January 26 2019 23:22 Vutalisk wrote:
BTW, so is it not true GSL blocking foreigners? Look like Scarlett made it and she is in WCS Winter too. Doesn't look like it is a problem.

Seems like it's with WCS Challenger Circuit and GSL/WCS Korea Circuit, Winter is outside of that. It's weird though, loads of people are wanting some official statement.
Blunder Man doing everything thing a blunder can.
silverkeops
Profile Joined February 2012
France18 Posts
January 26 2019 14:59 GMT
#27
I wish Taeja and Bomber will qualify for the next one. They were so close.
RealityTheGreat
Profile Joined January 2018
China564 Posts
January 26 2019 15:42 GMT
#28
TRUE is back?
Betrayed, forgotten, abandoned.
Serimek
Profile Joined August 2011
France2274 Posts
January 26 2019 15:52 GMT
#29
On January 26 2019 22:46 Zzoram wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 26 2019 21:59 rednusa wrote:
With Scarlett qualifying, is she removing herself from WCS?


This is the biggest question for me out of these results.

Maybe she feels strong enough to go for glory over easy WCS points and money.

GSL Code S actually potentially pays out a lot better than WCS though. If Scarlett makes it to the Ro16 GSL (not guaranteed she will) that’s the same money as 5-6th place for WCS America (she definitely would).


Chances to go to BlizzCon are thinner in Korea though.
SC2 is the best game to watch and was the best to play before I grew old and slow...
Xain0n
Profile Joined November 2018
Italy3963 Posts
Last Edited: 2019-01-26 16:44:04
January 26 2019 16:42 GMT
#30
On January 26 2019 21:42 Charoisaur wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 26 2019 21:37 opisska wrote:
On January 26 2019 21:35 Charoisaur wrote:
On January 26 2019 20:40 opisska wrote:
Man, driving out the foreigners has surely helped the new blood to get in!

Well the returners made it harder for them to qualify but at least they have a better chance now than if there were an additional 10 top foreigners in the qualifiers.


C'mon, this was somewhat acceptable as an opinion before we had any actual data, but how can you say this with a straight face after we had a qualifier almost devoid of foreigners, with just one spot being taken by a foreigner and yet ZERO new people?

I don't know what's so hard to understand about what I wrote. With MC, Fantasy, DRG, Dream, Bomber and TaeJa there are 6 ex top players who weren't in the qualifiers the last two years. It's not that much of a surprise no newcomers qualified.
If the semi region lock would have been in place last year already the chance for new players to qualify would have been much higher. Acting like the foreigner invasion didn't hurt korean new blood is just disingenuos.

TLDR The last two years there was place in Code S for newcomers if it wasn't for foreigners. Now unfortunately not anymore because the player pool increased with the returners. But they still have a better shot than they would have without the semi-region-lock.


Let's then take a look at what happened in Code S qualifiers last two years!

I am listing which foreigners qualified and at the expense at which korean player, considering qualifier matches only(and ignoring the foreigner who lost when there was no korean player in the qualifier match); It's unlikely that someone losing to a foreigner in the first matches could have proceed to beat the other koreans players who ultimately eliminated said foreigners in the qualified, if those were absent.

S1 2017-Scarlett instead of Seed; S2 2017-SpeCial, Scarlett instead of Hurricane, herO.

S3 2017-SpeCial, Scarlett, TIME, Elazer, NoRegreT instead of Seed, Myungsik, Zest, Prince, Impact.

S1 2018-Scarlett, NoRegreT, SortOf instead of Patience, Patience(lol), Rookie.

S2 2018-Scarlett, Zanster, SortOf, Elazer instead of Bunny, Ragnarok, herO, Hurricane.

S3 2018-Reynor, Neeb, SpeCial instead of Trust, Byul, Patience ; S1 2019-Scarlett instead of Bomber.

Foreigners qualified nineteen times in seven seasons; I don't think that's too massive of a representation
However, the koreans who were denied their Code S spot were mostly mid-level players who don't always pass the qualifiers and former champs past their primes or in a slump; only twice a foreigner took the place of a korean up and comer: Elazer beating Prince and SortOf beating Rookie.

Xain0n
Profile Joined November 2018
Italy3963 Posts
Last Edited: 2019-01-26 16:45:15
January 26 2019 16:43 GMT
#31
Another double post, I'm sorry. I keep accidentally quoting instead of editing...

Kalera
Profile Joined January 2018
United States338 Posts
January 26 2019 16:46 GMT
#32
I'm not sure you can extrapolate who was 'blocked' in that manner because all the groups would have been seeded very differently without all the foreigners in the qualifier.
Xain0n
Profile Joined November 2018
Italy3963 Posts
January 26 2019 16:54 GMT
#33
On January 27 2019 01:46 Kalera wrote:
I'm not sure you can extrapolate who was 'blocked' in that manner because all the groups would have been seeded very differently without all the foreigners in the qualifier.


This was not my intention; I was just trying to point out who was directly prevented to qualify given the actual brackets(foreigners included).
If the qualifying match was foreigner vs foreigner, i looked at the last korean defeated by the losing foreigner; of course the qualifiers would have been entirely different if no foreigner was present but the very composition of Code S could be very different.
Ej_
Profile Blog Joined January 2013
47656 Posts
January 26 2019 16:55 GMT
#34
Having said all of that, I don't think any amateur player has a hope of ever making Code S as long as there are 32 (ex-)pros in Korea.

It's just a matter of whether you feel the spot not occupied by KR pros should go to actual progamers (albeit not Korean) or KR amateurs.
To elaborate on that, I also do not think the Korean scene can be nurtured in any way for the Korean amateurs to grow, the gap is massive and there's few amateurs willing to actually compete.
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KelsierSC
Profile Blog Joined March 2013
United Kingdom10443 Posts
January 26 2019 17:04 GMT
#35
oh man upset DRG couldn't make it.

Dark, Losira and MC all getting through is sick though
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William paradise
Profile Blog Joined April 2014
1753 Posts
January 26 2019 17:12 GMT
#36
On January 26 2019 22:46 Zzoram wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 26 2019 21:59 rednusa wrote:
With Scarlett qualifying, is she removing herself from WCS?


This is the biggest question for me out of these results.

Maybe she feels strong enough to go for glory over easy WCS points and money.

GSL Code S actually potentially pays out a lot better than WCS though. If Scarlett makes it to the Ro16 GSL (not guaranteed she will) that’s the same money as 5-6th place for WCS America (she definitely would).

yea wish someone would clarify the situation
ok
Musicus
Profile Joined August 2011
Germany23576 Posts
January 26 2019 17:14 GMT
#37
Can't believe Taeja did not make it, happy for Fantasy and MC though.
Maru and Serral are probably top 5.
Lorning *
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
Belgica34432 Posts
January 26 2019 17:41 GMT
#38
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Gomas
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
Poland312 Posts
January 26 2019 19:04 GMT
#39
In your Fantasy ~
JimmyJRaynor
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada17260 Posts
Last Edited: 2019-01-26 19:28:13
January 26 2019 19:07 GMT
#40
On January 26 2019 20:37 TeamLiquid ESPORTS wrote:
Code S Season 1 is set to begin on February 2nd with the first RO32 match.

is there a broadcast schedule for February 2019 ?

EDIT: it goes from Feb 2 to April 13.. that is good news. Therefore, they are NOT cramming 1 season into 1 massive 3 day weekend of 14 hours per day of gaming.

BIG WIN.
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Elentos
Profile Blog Joined February 2015
55566 Posts
Last Edited: 2019-01-26 19:23:41
January 26 2019 19:19 GMT
#41
On January 27 2019 04:07 JimmyJRaynor wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 26 2019 20:37 TeamLiquid ESPORTS wrote:
Code S Season 1 is set to begin on February 2nd with the first RO32 match.

is there a broadcast schedule for February 2019 ?

Not yet, but there's two options basically. Either they go on break during the Ro32 for Katowice, or they condense it to finish beforehand. In the first case, GSL would probably be on the 2nd, 6th, 9th, 12th, 16th, and 20th. In the 2nd case, 2 extra dates would be added.

E: Actually they could have a break on the 6th because the 5th is Lunar New Year
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EEk1TwEEk
Profile Joined June 2017
Russian Federation188 Posts
January 26 2019 20:22 GMT
#42
Thought Dream is retired
I wish him the best of luck in 2019, hope to see him back!
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Elentos
Profile Blog Joined February 2015
55566 Posts
January 26 2019 20:33 GMT
#43
On January 27 2019 05:22 EEk1TwEEk wrote:
Thought Dream is retired

His military service either recently finished or is about to finish.
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BaneRiders
Profile Joined August 2013
Sweden3630 Posts
January 26 2019 21:37 GMT
#44
On January 27 2019 01:55 Ej_ wrote:
Having said all of that, I don't think any amateur player has a hope of ever making Code S as long as there are 32 (ex-)pros in Korea.

It's just a matter of whether you feel the spot not occupied by KR pros should go to actual progamers (albeit not Korean) or KR amateurs.
To elaborate on that, I also do not think the Korean scene can be nurtured in any way for the Korean amateurs to grow, the gap is massive and there's few amateurs willing to actually compete.


Well, look at those that qualified for both EU and NA WCS winter, perhaps EU in particular. Quite a few new youngsters there among the qualified, upcoming players like Goblin, SoulSpirit, Skillous etc., giving the old guard a hard time. Harstem was on the ropes to make it through. I bet they've all played Serral, Showtime, UThermal and the rest of the top dogs a few times on the ladder and learned a thing or two. Surely the same thing could happen in KR?
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BaneRiders
Profile Joined August 2013
Sweden3630 Posts
January 26 2019 21:39 GMT
#45
On January 26 2019 23:35 blunderfulguy wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 26 2019 23:22 Vutalisk wrote:
BTW, so is it not true GSL blocking foreigners? Look like Scarlett made it and she is in WCS Winter too. Doesn't look like it is a problem.

Seems like it's with WCS Challenger Circuit and GSL/WCS Korea Circuit, Winter is outside of that. It's weird though, loads of people are wanting some official statement.


That just sounds too weird. Is it a fact that foreigners were told off to compete in GSL? Did anyone tweet about it or something?
Earth, Water, Air and Protoss!
William paradise
Profile Blog Joined April 2014
1753 Posts
January 26 2019 22:07 GMT
#46
On January 27 2019 06:39 BaneRiders wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 26 2019 23:35 blunderfulguy wrote:
On January 26 2019 23:22 Vutalisk wrote:
BTW, so is it not true GSL blocking foreigners? Look like Scarlett made it and she is in WCS Winter too. Doesn't look like it is a problem.

Seems like it's with WCS Challenger Circuit and GSL/WCS Korea Circuit, Winter is outside of that. It's weird though, loads of people are wanting some official statement.


That just sounds too weird. Is it a fact that foreigners were told off to compete in GSL? Did anyone tweet about it or something?

TIME maybe was told he couldn't compete in wcs though a email.
ok
Shellshock
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States97276 Posts
January 26 2019 22:20 GMT
#47
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BaneRiders
Profile Joined August 2013
Sweden3630 Posts
January 26 2019 22:21 GMT
#48
On January 27 2019 07:07 William paradise wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 27 2019 06:39 BaneRiders wrote:
On January 26 2019 23:35 blunderfulguy wrote:
On January 26 2019 23:22 Vutalisk wrote:
BTW, so is it not true GSL blocking foreigners? Look like Scarlett made it and she is in WCS Winter too. Doesn't look like it is a problem.

Seems like it's with WCS Challenger Circuit and GSL/WCS Korea Circuit, Winter is outside of that. It's weird though, loads of people are wanting some official statement.


That just sounds too weird. Is it a fact that foreigners were told off to compete in GSL? Did anyone tweet about it or something?

TIME maybe was told he couldn't compete in wcs though a email.


That I don't get. Why could Sortof and Scarlet but not time?
Earth, Water, Air and Protoss!
Elentos
Profile Blog Joined February 2015
55566 Posts
January 26 2019 22:24 GMT
#49
On January 27 2019 07:21 BaneRiders wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 27 2019 07:07 William paradise wrote:
On January 27 2019 06:39 BaneRiders wrote:
On January 26 2019 23:35 blunderfulguy wrote:
On January 26 2019 23:22 Vutalisk wrote:
BTW, so is it not true GSL blocking foreigners? Look like Scarlett made it and she is in WCS Winter too. Doesn't look like it is a problem.

Seems like it's with WCS Challenger Circuit and GSL/WCS Korea Circuit, Winter is outside of that. It's weird though, loads of people are wanting some official statement.


That just sounds too weird. Is it a fact that foreigners were told off to compete in GSL? Did anyone tweet about it or something?

TIME maybe was told he couldn't compete in wcs though a email.


That I don't get. Why could Sortof and Scarlet but not time?

Nobody gets it. Nobody will get it until we get the full rule set for 2019 WCS from Blizzard. If we're lucky we might have that by 2020.
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BaneRiders
Profile Joined August 2013
Sweden3630 Posts
January 26 2019 22:29 GMT
#50
On January 27 2019 07:24 Elentos wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 27 2019 07:21 BaneRiders wrote:
On January 27 2019 07:07 William paradise wrote:
On January 27 2019 06:39 BaneRiders wrote:
On January 26 2019 23:35 blunderfulguy wrote:
On January 26 2019 23:22 Vutalisk wrote:
BTW, so is it not true GSL blocking foreigners? Look like Scarlett made it and she is in WCS Winter too. Doesn't look like it is a problem.

Seems like it's with WCS Challenger Circuit and GSL/WCS Korea Circuit, Winter is outside of that. It's weird though, loads of people are wanting some official statement.


That just sounds too weird. Is it a fact that foreigners were told off to compete in GSL? Did anyone tweet about it or something?

TIME maybe was told he couldn't compete in wcs though a email.


That I don't get. Why could Sortof and Scarlet but not time?

Nobody gets it. Nobody will get it until we get the full rule set for 2019 WCS from Blizzard. If we're lucky we might have that by 2020.


Well, let's have a glass of whisky in the meantime then...

A bit OT, but perhaps related due to the communication difficulties we're suffering from: where is WCS EU and WCS NA taking place? The offline parts that is.
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Shura
Profile Joined November 2010
France54 Posts
January 26 2019 22:29 GMT
#51
On January 27 2019 07:20 Shellshock wrote:
SHURRAAAAA


Yes ?
Crocolisk Dundee
Profile Blog Joined October 2015
870 Posts
January 26 2019 22:45 GMT
#52
On January 27 2019 02:41 Lorning wrote:
Creator


Seconding this. Hope he can show a similar performance as in Super Tournament 2 in 2018.
Stopped watching ESL content in 2022 when the company was acquired by Savvy Gaming Group. Also object to sponsorships by the U.S. Air Force. Thanks for the lively discussions about sportswashing. StarCraft II is not for me anymore.
William paradise
Profile Blog Joined April 2014
1753 Posts
January 26 2019 23:50 GMT
#53
On January 27 2019 07:24 Elentos wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 27 2019 07:21 BaneRiders wrote:
On January 27 2019 07:07 William paradise wrote:
On January 27 2019 06:39 BaneRiders wrote:
On January 26 2019 23:35 blunderfulguy wrote:
On January 26 2019 23:22 Vutalisk wrote:
BTW, so is it not true GSL blocking foreigners? Look like Scarlett made it and she is in WCS Winter too. Doesn't look like it is a problem.

Seems like it's with WCS Challenger Circuit and GSL/WCS Korea Circuit, Winter is outside of that. It's weird though, loads of people are wanting some official statement.


That just sounds too weird. Is it a fact that foreigners were told off to compete in GSL? Did anyone tweet about it or something?

TIME maybe was told he couldn't compete in wcs though a email.


That I don't get. Why could Sortof and Scarlet but not time?

Nobody gets it. Nobody will get it until we get the full rule set for 2019 WCS from Blizzard. If we're lucky we might have that by 2020.

lol that was just funny
ok
Xamo
Profile Joined April 2012
Spain884 Posts
January 27 2019 00:26 GMT
#54
Scarlett vs Bomber in the qualifiers... what a déjà vu.
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gophersnake
Profile Joined July 2018
48 Posts
January 27 2019 00:30 GMT
#55
On January 26 2019 20:40 opisska wrote:
Man, driving out the foreigners has surely helped the new blood to get in!


Ya it's good to see the fresh korean talent finally rising up and getting to play on the big stage. No more 3 non-korean players robbing their scene of it's round of 32 money.
ShambhalaWar
Profile Joined August 2013
United States930 Posts
January 27 2019 01:00 GMT
#56
GO SCARLETT!
DjKniteX
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States243 Posts
January 27 2019 05:48 GMT
#57
My man MC back in the game! Awesome to see Scarlett in it again; I'll be rooting for FanTaSy as well
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parrotpitaya
Profile Joined January 2019
Germany37 Posts
January 27 2019 10:05 GMT
#58
Nice scarlett....what I saw MC?!
Kikirik1
Profile Joined January 2017
45 Posts
January 27 2019 11:48 GMT
#59
On January 27 2019 01:42 Xain0n wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 26 2019 21:42 Charoisaur wrote:
On January 26 2019 21:37 opisska wrote:
On January 26 2019 21:35 Charoisaur wrote:
On January 26 2019 20:40 opisska wrote:
Man, driving out the foreigners has surely helped the new blood to get in!

Well the returners made it harder for them to qualify but at least they have a better chance now than if there were an additional 10 top foreigners in the qualifiers.


C'mon, this was somewhat acceptable as an opinion before we had any actual data, but how can you say this with a straight face after we had a qualifier almost devoid of foreigners, with just one spot being taken by a foreigner and yet ZERO new people?

I don't know what's so hard to understand about what I wrote. With MC, Fantasy, DRG, Dream, Bomber and TaeJa there are 6 ex top players who weren't in the qualifiers the last two years. It's not that much of a surprise no newcomers qualified.
If the semi region lock would have been in place last year already the chance for new players to qualify would have been much higher. Acting like the foreigner invasion didn't hurt korean new blood is just disingenuos.

TLDR The last two years there was place in Code S for newcomers if it wasn't for foreigners. Now unfortunately not anymore because the player pool increased with the returners. But they still have a better shot than they would have without the semi-region-lock.


Let's then take a look at what happened in Code S qualifiers last two years!

I am listing which foreigners qualified and at the expense at which korean player, considering qualifier matches only(and ignoring the foreigner who lost when there was no korean player in the qualifier match); It's unlikely that someone losing to a foreigner in the first matches could have proceed to beat the other koreans players who ultimately eliminated said foreigners in the qualified, if those were absent.

S1 2017-Scarlett instead of Seed; S2 2017-SpeCial, Scarlett instead of Hurricane, herO.

S3 2017-SpeCial, Scarlett, TIME, Elazer, NoRegreT instead of Seed, Myungsik, Zest, Prince, Impact.

S1 2018-Scarlett, NoRegreT, SortOf instead of Patience, Patience(lol), Rookie.

S2 2018-Scarlett, Zanster, SortOf, Elazer instead of Bunny, Ragnarok, herO, Hurricane.

S3 2018-Reynor, Neeb, SpeCial instead of Trust, Byul, Patience ; S1 2019-Scarlett instead of Bomber.

Foreigners qualified nineteen times in seven seasons; I don't think that's too massive of a representation
However, the koreans who were denied their Code S spot were mostly mid-level players who don't always pass the qualifiers and former champs past their primes or in a slump; only twice a foreigner took the place of a korean up and comer: Elazer beating Prince and SortOf beating Rookie.




Byul retire after that, and Patience is still patiently wait.....
deacon.frost
Profile Joined February 2013
Czech Republic12129 Posts
January 27 2019 14:19 GMT
#60
On January 27 2019 09:30 gophersnake wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 26 2019 20:40 opisska wrote:
Man, driving out the foreigners has surely helped the new blood to get in!


Ya it's good to see the fresh korean talent finally rising up and getting to play on the big stage. No more 3 non-korean players robbing their scene of it's round of 32 money.

Well the last season we saw how they robbed the ro32 mon... oh, wait a minute!! At least don't lie
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brickrd
Profile Blog Joined March 2014
United States4894 Posts
January 27 2019 14:38 GMT
#61
MC to win it all with 20 gateway allins
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deacon.frost
Profile Joined February 2013
Czech Republic12129 Posts
January 27 2019 14:46 GMT
#62
On January 27 2019 23:38 brickrd wrote:
MC to win it all with 20 gateway allins

Would be nostalgic and nice and all
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waiting2Bbanned
Profile Joined November 2015
United States154 Posts
Last Edited: 2019-01-27 18:37:01
January 27 2019 18:35 GMT
#63
On January 26 2019 22:46 Zzoram wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 26 2019 21:59 rednusa wrote:
With Scarlett qualifying, is she removing herself from WCS?


This is the biggest question for me out of these results.

Maybe she feels strong enough to go for glory over easy WCS points and money.


I'm pretty sure her GSL record is way better than her abysmal WCS record, even in NA*.



(*) probably the only progamer in the history of competitive Starcraft (BW & SC2) that statement has ever applied to
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neptunusfisk
Profile Blog Joined July 2012
2286 Posts
Last Edited: 2019-01-27 18:43:12
January 27 2019 18:41 GMT
#64
Dream, DongRaeGu, TaeJa, Bomber, TOP?? is it 2013 again???


On January 27 2019 23:38 brickrd wrote:
MC to win it all with 20 gateway allins



Or maybe losing a PvP finals to three versions of 4 gate + warp prism?? That would be nostalgia right there
maru G5L pls
aringadingding
Profile Joined September 2010
479 Posts
January 27 2019 19:03 GMT
#65
Nice to see Creator advance!
jarodtou
Profile Joined July 2016
167 Posts
January 28 2019 08:40 GMT
#66
so sad that 2nd day has 4 player bracket from where 2 qualifies, almost everybody qualifies with some unlucky folks.
no new players, no foreigners showing up.
at least I can be happy to see old players returning like DRG, MC, Parting.. etc
spenzer
Profile Joined June 2016
27 Posts
January 28 2019 08:45 GMT
#67
Oh look they patched Toss back into GSL

User was warned for this post.
fronkschnonk
Profile Joined November 2011
Germany622 Posts
January 28 2019 08:52 GMT
#68
Really surprised that Taeja didn't make it. He looked really solid at HSC.
Furthermore, I consider that some kind of Code A must be reestablished.
Hadronsbecrazy
Profile Joined September 2013
United Kingdom551 Posts
January 28 2019 10:56 GMT
#69
On January 26 2019 20:40 opisska wrote:
Man, driving out the foreigners has surely helped the new blood to get in!



this MC fellow has some potential
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CynicalDeath
Profile Joined January 2012
Italy3567 Posts
Last Edited: 2019-01-28 11:19:13
January 28 2019 11:19 GMT
#70
Groups are out!

(Wiki)2019 Global StarCraft II League Season 1/Code S
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Xain0n
Profile Joined November 2018
Italy3963 Posts
January 28 2019 12:06 GMT
#71
Group D is the group of death!
Jank
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
United States308 Posts
January 28 2019 18:27 GMT
#72
How come I see some players like scarlett and mc in multiple qualifier brackets but I only see my boy juanito get one chance? How's the system work?
"You don't know you're wearing a leash if you sit by the peg all day." - Michael Parenti
Nakajin
Profile Blog Joined September 2014
Canada8989 Posts
January 28 2019 18:31 GMT
#73
On January 29 2019 03:27 Jank wrote:
How come I see some players like scarlett and mc in multiple qualifier brackets but I only see my boy juanito get one chance? How's the system work?


You had 2 shots, Special didin't play in either. He didn't show up for the first qualifier even if he was register, probably some conflict with WCS.
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Jank
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
United States308 Posts
January 28 2019 19:02 GMT
#74
On January 29 2019 03:31 Nakajin wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 29 2019 03:27 Jank wrote:
How come I see some players like scarlett and mc in multiple qualifier brackets but I only see my boy juanito get one chance? How's the system work?


You had 2 shots, Special didin't play in either. He didn't show up for the first qualifier even if he was register, probably some conflict with WCS.

Ah gotchas, thanks.
"You don't know you're wearing a leash if you sit by the peg all day." - Michael Parenti
ZuckerkickOnAiur
Profile Joined July 2018
4 Posts
January 29 2019 13:23 GMT
#75
Why didn't SpeCial play the Code S S1 2019 Qualifier?
bloooargh
Profile Joined May 2012
United States28 Posts
January 29 2019 15:42 GMT
#76
A shame we can't have SpeCial v Fantasy this season. Their styles are so much fun to watch, and I can't remember seeing a match like that recently.
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Elentos
Profile Blog Joined February 2015
55566 Posts
January 29 2019 16:06 GMT
#77
On January 30 2019 00:42 bloooargh wrote:
A shame we can't have SpeCial v Fantasy this season. Their styles are so much fun to watch, and I can't remember seeing a match like that recently.

Well hey, we can't have SpeCial vs Fantasy, but the player SpeCial idolizes does play Fantasy.
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