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GSL Super Tournament #2 (2018) bracket released

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Inflicted
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Australia18228 Posts
September 19 2018 06:35 GMT
#1

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Shock_sc2
Profile Joined February 2015
United States5 Posts
September 19 2018 06:42 GMT
#2
Very well may be Maru vs. TY finals again
TheOneAboveU
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Germany3367 Posts
September 19 2018 06:47 GMT
#3
I'm picturing GuMiho in front of his PC right now, sweating heavily and trying to call KeeN to talk about TvP strats...
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StabiloBoss20
Profile Joined July 2015
313 Posts
September 19 2018 06:47 GMT
#4
Maru - Rogue... that's a joke, right?
Geo.Rion
Profile Blog Joined October 2008
7377 Posts
September 19 2018 06:55 GMT
#5
On September 19 2018 15:47 TheOneAboveU wrote:
I'm picturing GuMiho in front of his PC right now, sweating heavily and trying to call KeeN to talk about TvP strats...

If sOs beats Keen but then loses to Maru he still has enough points?
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ZigguratOfUr
Profile Blog Joined April 2012
Iraq16955 Posts
Last Edited: 2018-09-19 06:58:15
September 19 2018 06:56 GMT
#6
GuMiho hasn't been eliminated by the bracket draw at least, so he's got that going for him.

On September 19 2018 15:55 Geo.Rion wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 19 2018 15:47 TheOneAboveU wrote:
I'm picturing GuMiho in front of his PC right now, sweating heavily and trying to call KeeN to talk about TvP strats...

If sOs beats Keen but then loses to Maru he still has enough points?


Yeah. GuMi needs sOs and Trap to lose in Ro16, soO to lose in Ro16 or Ro8 and Solar to not make the finals.
iMrising
Profile Blog Joined March 2012
United States1099 Posts
September 19 2018 06:58 GMT
#7
On September 19 2018 15:55 Geo.Rion wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 19 2018 15:47 TheOneAboveU wrote:
I'm picturing GuMiho in front of his PC right now, sweating heavily and trying to call KeeN to talk about TvP strats...

If sOs beats Keen but then loses to Maru he still has enough points?

yes. looks like its the same for soO and Trap as well.
Speaking of soO and sOs, they drew some beatable opponents. will definitely try to watch the games
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Shathe
Profile Joined July 2017
Hungary422 Posts
September 19 2018 07:00 GMT
#8
Maru vs Rogue --> Zest confirmed 5th place loool. He is so screwed.
dummy1
Profile Blog Joined April 2018
420 Posts
September 19 2018 07:04 GMT
#9
I can't believe in it. Maru vs Rogue, why, tell me why!? This is not happening...
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Cricketer12
Profile Blog Joined May 2012
United States13968 Posts
September 19 2018 07:24 GMT
#10
good thing sOs just needs to beat keen, he has to go through maru/rogue and stats to reach the finals, jeez.
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deacon.frost
Profile Joined February 2013
Czech Republic12129 Posts
September 19 2018 07:29 GMT
#11
Why, why, why? Maru v Rogue again? Really? !#!%!%!!!@#!!!!

Sigh I hate team kills and especially these two.
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DieuCure
Profile Joined January 2017
France3713 Posts
September 19 2018 07:31 GMT
#12
Seed #2 for TY at blizzcon
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gnuoy00
Profile Joined October 2017
26 Posts
September 19 2018 09:32 GMT
#13
another TY vs Maru? ... i wouldn't complain ... haha
dummy1
Profile Blog Joined April 2018
420 Posts
Last Edited: 2018-09-19 09:50:29
September 19 2018 09:49 GMT
#14
Given the situation, I think that Maru or Rogue are not serious about GSL ST. For them it is way more important that sOs (Trap) will go further and make it to the Finals.
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midhigh
Profile Joined July 2018
49 Posts
September 19 2018 10:07 GMT
#15
I honestly think Rogue will beat Maru, then sOs loosing to KeeN with 2 proxys from KeeN, then Rogue loosing to KeeN.. Also Trap is gonna loose against Stats as always, so Gumiho will end up playing at Blizzcon.
On the other side, i can't tell how much i want to see Classic vs TY! Dark vs Leenock also will be a very entertaining match, since booth of them loves early pools.
At the end of the day, i am predicting a KeeN-Stats-Dark-TY final four, and Stats-Dark final with Stats winning.
yht9657
Profile Joined December 2016
1810 Posts
September 19 2018 10:24 GMT
#16
sOs with the ultimate bracket luck once again, it seems even god wants him to make Blizzcon.
Vutalisk
Profile Joined August 2016
United States680 Posts
September 19 2018 11:11 GMT
#17
soO to BlizzCon!
Hopefully he has been working hard to fix his ZvT.
Elentos
Profile Blog Joined February 2015
55459 Posts
September 19 2018 11:37 GMT
#18
Would take a big upset to deny sOs Blizzcon now. Trap, Solar and soO are in terrible positions honestly. TY and Classic gonna face off 1 on 1 to see who lands in Serral's group I guess.
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deacon.frost
Profile Joined February 2013
Czech Republic12129 Posts
September 19 2018 11:45 GMT
#19
On September 19 2018 19:24 yht9657 wrote:
sOs with the ultimate bracket luck once again, it seems even god wants him to make Blizzcon.

sOs is the lord of chaos, so expect unexpected. This means he can lose. And I say that as his fan
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algue
Profile Joined July 2011
France1436 Posts
September 19 2018 11:50 GMT
#20
BO7 Maru vs TY 2, go go go
Gotta get some nice storylines going
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FrostedMiniWheats
Profile Joined August 2010
United States30730 Posts
Last Edited: 2018-09-19 11:50:57
September 19 2018 11:50 GMT
#21
Well, Gumi is fucked. No way sOs is going out early. Damn shame really, but this opens up the possibility for $0$ (the ultimate Protoss), to rise again out of nowhere :O
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Elentos
Profile Blog Joined February 2015
55459 Posts
September 19 2018 12:07 GMT
#22
Last year, in the Korean WCS top 8 every player either won at least 1 WCS point tourney or finished highly in multiple. This year, that's still true for the top 7. But the 8th player will probably be someone who has at most 1 top 4+ finish and is in Blizzcon range because of consistency/playing in everything.
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Fango
Profile Joined July 2016
United Kingdom8987 Posts
September 19 2018 12:46 GMT
#23
If soO goes through Bunny, Dark, and Classic, he can make the finals. Then poviding sOs doesn't make said final, soO will get the spot.

Also there's no way Rogue or Maru would deny sOs a blizzcon spot right? I really think this comes down to soO vs sOs for it.
Zest, sOs, PartinG, Dark, and Maru are the real champs. ROOT_herO is overrated. Snute, Serral, and Scarlett are the foreigner GOATs
Cricketer12
Profile Blog Joined May 2012
United States13968 Posts
Last Edited: 2018-09-19 14:48:55
September 19 2018 14:48 GMT
#24
On September 19 2018 21:46 Fango wrote:
If soO goes through Bunny, Dark, and Classic, he can make the finals. Then poviding sOs doesn't make said final, soO will get the spot.

Also there's no way Rogue or Maru would deny sOs a blizzcon spot right? I really think this comes down to soO vs sOs for it.

There is. What you suggest is basically match-fixing, the ultimate crime in sports.
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Clazziquai10
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
Singapore1949 Posts
Last Edited: 2018-09-19 14:54:48
September 19 2018 14:54 GMT
#25
What could be better than winning 3 gsls in a year? Winning 4.
Charoisaur
Profile Joined August 2014
Germany15880 Posts
September 19 2018 14:55 GMT
#26
On September 19 2018 23:48 Cricketer12 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 19 2018 21:46 Fango wrote:
If soO goes through Bunny, Dark, and Classic, he can make the finals. Then poviding sOs doesn't make said final, soO will get the spot.

Also there's no way Rogue or Maru would deny sOs a blizzcon spot right? I really think this comes down to soO vs sOs for it.

There is. What you suggest is basically match-fixing, the ultimate crime in sports.

which obviously no Starcraft player would ever do
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Fango
Profile Joined July 2016
United Kingdom8987 Posts
September 19 2018 14:57 GMT
#27
On September 19 2018 23:48 Cricketer12 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 19 2018 21:46 Fango wrote:
If soO goes through Bunny, Dark, and Classic, he can make the finals. Then poviding sOs doesn't make said final, soO will get the spot.

Also there's no way Rogue or Maru would deny sOs a blizzcon spot right? I really think this comes down to soO vs sOs for it.

There is. What you suggest is basically match-fixing, the ultimate crime in sports.

Throwing for money = matchfixing. Choosing to not play at 100% or doing intentionally inferior strategies is not against the rules.
Zest, sOs, PartinG, Dark, and Maru are the real champs. ROOT_herO is overrated. Snute, Serral, and Scarlett are the foreigner GOATs
Tempest
Profile Joined October 2015
United States147 Posts
September 19 2018 15:00 GMT
#28
Bold prediction of the week:

Bunny magically wins both of his TvZ matchups so that Classic can make it to grand finals without playing a PvZ.
After which he will lose to Maru/Rogue or defeat Stats.

Long shot I know, but im sticking to it.
Quick, think of some pithy cliche and toss it here
ZigguratOfUr
Profile Blog Joined April 2012
Iraq16955 Posts
September 19 2018 15:11 GMT
#29
On September 19 2018 23:57 Fango wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 19 2018 23:48 Cricketer12 wrote:
On September 19 2018 21:46 Fango wrote:
If soO goes through Bunny, Dark, and Classic, he can make the finals. Then poviding sOs doesn't make said final, soO will get the spot.

Also there's no way Rogue or Maru would deny sOs a blizzcon spot right? I really think this comes down to soO vs sOs for it.

There is. What you suggest is basically match-fixing, the ultimate crime in sports.

Throwing for money = matchfixing. Choosing to not play at 100% or doing intentionally inferior strategies is not against the rules.


Not at all. It's matchfixing regardless of whether you're playing poorly to help a teammate or to get an easier playoff opponent or any other reason. It's definitely against the rules.

That being said the community doesn't consider this form of matchfixing that harshly, it's hard to prove, and people haven't ever been punished even in cases where it's blatantly obvious (Stork for example threw like 4 tiebreak games at WCG to try to avoid another Korean in the playoffs).
deacon.frost
Profile Joined February 2013
Czech Republic12129 Posts
September 19 2018 15:18 GMT
#30
On September 19 2018 23:48 Cricketer12 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 19 2018 21:46 Fango wrote:
If soO goes through Bunny, Dark, and Classic, he can make the finals. Then poviding sOs doesn't make said final, soO will get the spot.

Also there's no way Rogue or Maru would deny sOs a blizzcon spot right? I really think this comes down to soO vs sOs for it.

There is. What you suggest is basically match-fixing, the ultimate crime in sports.

Team strategy is match fixing? Is match fixing when Maru swaps people around so his team mates have easier groups(or at least think so )?

It all comes down what the team strategy is and how the rest of the games happens.

But in the end - it's inside the team. Unless somebody from the team would talk nobody will know. Look at Life, nobody knew he was match fixing ;-)
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Fango
Profile Joined July 2016
United Kingdom8987 Posts
Last Edited: 2018-09-19 15:41:06
September 19 2018 15:24 GMT
#31
On September 20 2018 00:11 ZigguratOfUr wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 19 2018 23:57 Fango wrote:
On September 19 2018 23:48 Cricketer12 wrote:
On September 19 2018 21:46 Fango wrote:
If soO goes through Bunny, Dark, and Classic, he can make the finals. Then poviding sOs doesn't make said final, soO will get the spot.

Also there's no way Rogue or Maru would deny sOs a blizzcon spot right? I really think this comes down to soO vs sOs for it.

There is. What you suggest is basically match-fixing, the ultimate crime in sports.

Throwing for money = matchfixing. Choosing to not play at 100% or doing intentionally inferior strategies is not against the rules.


Not at all. It's matchfixing regardless of whether you're playing poorly to help a teammate or to get an easier playoff opponent or any other reason. It's definitely against the rules.

That being said the community doesn't consider this form of matchfixing that harshly, it's hard to prove, and people haven't ever been punished even in cases where it's blatantly obvious (Stork for example threw like 4 tiebreak games at WCG to try to avoid another Korean in the playoffs).

Choosing to do an inferior build isn't matchfixing. Usually they'll still try to win the game, they're just less likely to. Some players have said they value entertaining over winning and do this often. And in round robin groups once players are already guaranteed to win the group, they'll sometimes do stupid builds.

It's not fixing unless they intentionally arrange to lose the game. And even if they did it's impossible to prove usually.
Zest, sOs, PartinG, Dark, and Maru are the real champs. ROOT_herO is overrated. Snute, Serral, and Scarlett are the foreigner GOATs
Poopi
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
France12761 Posts
Last Edited: 2018-09-19 15:57:50
September 19 2018 15:35 GMT
#32
Yeah, I could see Maru proxying sOs and losing.
Would not be match fix.
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swissman777
Profile Joined September 2014
1106 Posts
September 19 2018 15:40 GMT
#33
Damn, what's up with the best jin air players and their brackets? sOs better play the games of his life to beat maru/rogue
swissman777
Profile Joined September 2014
1106 Posts
September 19 2018 15:42 GMT
#34
On September 20 2018 00:24 Fango wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 20 2018 00:11 ZigguratOfUr wrote:
On September 19 2018 23:57 Fango wrote:
On September 19 2018 23:48 Cricketer12 wrote:
On September 19 2018 21:46 Fango wrote:
If soO goes through Bunny, Dark, and Classic, he can make the finals. Then poviding sOs doesn't make said final, soO will get the spot.

Also there's no way Rogue or Maru would deny sOs a blizzcon spot right? I really think this comes down to soO vs sOs for it.

There is. What you suggest is basically match-fixing, the ultimate crime in sports.

Throwing for money = matchfixing. Choosing to not play at 100% or doing intentionally inferior strategies is not against the rules.


Not at all. It's matchfixing regardless of whether you're playing poorly to help a teammate or to get an easier playoff opponent or any other reason. It's definitely against the rules.

That being said the community doesn't consider this form of matchfixing that harshly, it's hard to prove, and people haven't ever been punished even in cases where it's blatantly obvious (Stork for example threw like 4 tiebreak games at WCG to try to avoid another Korean in the playoffs).

Choosing to do an inferior build isn't matchfixing. Usually they'll still try to win the game, they're just less likely to. Some players have said they value entertaining over winning and do this often. And in round robin groups once players are already guaranteed to win the group, they'll sometimes do stupid builds.

It's not fixing unless they intentionally arrange to lose the game. And even if they did it's impossible to prove usually.


It's also intentionally losing the game to obtain money or some sort of return. I think you can intentionally lose and proving that by itself is not enough
FrostedMiniWheats
Profile Joined August 2010
United States30730 Posts
September 19 2018 15:50 GMT
#35
On September 20 2018 00:40 swissman777 wrote:
Damn, what's up with the best jin air players and their brackets? sOs better play the games of his life to beat maru/rogue


Maru sucks in these and after Rogue's series against Neeb I'm not so sure in Rogue's ZvP anymore. Think sOs is gonna be fine.
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fishjie
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States1519 Posts
September 19 2018 15:52 GMT
#36
oh wow soo can beat everyone on his side of the bracket!!!!! except TY lulz.

go soo!!!!!!!!!
Fango
Profile Joined July 2016
United Kingdom8987 Posts
September 19 2018 15:54 GMT
#37
On September 20 2018 00:40 swissman777 wrote:
Damn, what's up with the best jin air players and their brackets? sOs better play the games of his life to beat maru/rogue

Maru and Rogue never normally go 100% in events like this. Whereas sOs has a very good reason to.
Zest, sOs, PartinG, Dark, and Maru are the real champs. ROOT_herO is overrated. Snute, Serral, and Scarlett are the foreigner GOATs
Nakajin
Profile Blog Joined September 2014
Canada8988 Posts
Last Edited: 2018-09-19 15:59:38
September 19 2018 15:59 GMT
#38
If SoO train well and get a good opponent in the semi (aka Classic), he has a good path to second place and Blizzcon.
Trap got a shitty draw.
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Elentos
Profile Blog Joined February 2015
55459 Posts
Last Edited: 2018-09-19 16:23:11
September 19 2018 16:22 GMT
#39
On September 20 2018 00:00 Tempest wrote:
Bold prediction of the week:

Bunny magically wins both of his TvZ matchups so that Classic can make it to grand finals without playing a PvZ.
After which he will lose to Maru/Rogue or defeat Stats.

Long shot I know, but im sticking to it.

First Classic is gonna have to survive getting proxied every game.
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Tempest
Profile Joined October 2015
United States147 Posts
September 19 2018 16:39 GMT
#40
On September 20 2018 01:22 Elentos wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 20 2018 00:00 Tempest wrote:
Bold prediction of the week:

Bunny magically wins both of his TvZ matchups so that Classic can make it to grand finals without playing a PvZ.
After which he will lose to Maru/Rogue or defeat Stats.

Long shot I know, but im sticking to it.

First Classic is gonna have to survive getting proxied every game.


I have a mildly biased opinion that Classic's PvT is the best PvT in the world. I also feel that Maru is the main threat with and best user of said proxy playstyle, and that's why I predict Classic to go down to Maru if he faces him in the finals. TY is no slouch though, and if he has adopted Proxy as his bread and butter go-to for every game now, you may be right.
Quick, think of some pithy cliche and toss it here
Elentos
Profile Blog Joined February 2015
55459 Posts
September 19 2018 16:55 GMT
#41
On September 20 2018 01:39 Tempest wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 20 2018 01:22 Elentos wrote:
On September 20 2018 00:00 Tempest wrote:
Bold prediction of the week:

Bunny magically wins both of his TvZ matchups so that Classic can make it to grand finals without playing a PvZ.
After which he will lose to Maru/Rogue or defeat Stats.

Long shot I know, but im sticking to it.

First Classic is gonna have to survive getting proxied every game.


I have a mildly biased opinion that Classic's PvT is the best PvT in the world. I also feel that Maru is the main threat with and best user of said proxy playstyle, and that's why I predict Classic to go down to Maru if he faces him in the finals. TY is no slouch though, and if he has adopted Proxy as his bread and butter go-to for every game now, you may be right.

TY reverse swept Classic from down 0-3 with 4 consecutive proxies in an online tournament 2 weeks ago. I dare say he's pretty decent at it.
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Toua
Profile Joined February 2017
Denmark318 Posts
September 19 2018 17:00 GMT
#42
I am going to believe in my favorite Zerg Dark again, hopefully oneday he will win another tournament
Also Statsfighting!
Stats, Dark, Maru <3
Tempest
Profile Joined October 2015
United States147 Posts
September 19 2018 17:10 GMT
#43
On September 20 2018 01:55 Elentos wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 20 2018 01:39 Tempest wrote:
On September 20 2018 01:22 Elentos wrote:
On September 20 2018 00:00 Tempest wrote:
Bold prediction of the week:

Bunny magically wins both of his TvZ matchups so that Classic can make it to grand finals without playing a PvZ.
After which he will lose to Maru/Rogue or defeat Stats.

Long shot I know, but im sticking to it.

First Classic is gonna have to survive getting proxied every game.


I have a mildly biased opinion that Classic's PvT is the best PvT in the world. I also feel that Maru is the main threat with and best user of said proxy playstyle, and that's why I predict Classic to go down to Maru if he faces him in the finals. TY is no slouch though, and if he has adopted Proxy as his bread and butter go-to for every game now, you may be right.

TY reverse swept Classic from down 0-3 with 4 consecutive proxies in an online tournament 2 weeks ago. I dare say he's pretty decent at it.


Fair enough lol. Which tournament was that, I think I missed it. I haven't seen TY proxy much, which is where my assumption came from.

Hopefully Classic has spent time learning how to stop the proxies then!
Quick, think of some pithy cliche and toss it here
Zzzapper
Profile Joined September 2011
1791 Posts
September 19 2018 19:30 GMT
#44
Keen has been doing quite well lately, I could see him beating sOs and soO going to Blizzcon
Rodya
Profile Joined January 2018
546 Posts
September 19 2018 20:11 GMT
#45
ro8: Maru, sOs, Impact, Stats,soO, Dark, Classic, TY

ro4: sOs, Stats, soO, Classic

finals: sOs 4 - 3 soO

Maru won't win this tournamnet because he won't take it that seriously. sOs to advance to Blizzcon.
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Poopi
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
France12761 Posts
September 19 2018 20:12 GMT
#46
Proxies are figured out now, no way KeeN beats sOs.
Same for fantasy unless Classic stopped practice or whatever

soO and sOs have a good shot at Blizzcon
What a stupid way for GuMiho to be eliminated tho
WriterMaru
Elentos
Profile Blog Joined February 2015
55459 Posts
Last Edited: 2018-09-19 20:49:18
September 19 2018 20:36 GMT
#47
On September 20 2018 05:12 Poopi wrote:
Proxies are figured out now

Full Poopi. This is not based on anything at all.
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Jimmon
Profile Joined May 2011
United States112 Posts
September 19 2018 21:06 GMT
#48
Stats wins again.

Stats will rise.

Stats will be GSL Super tournament champion.

Stats will be 2018 Blizzcon Champion.

Mark these words.
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fishjie
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States1519 Posts
September 19 2018 21:19 GMT
#49
wait what happened to gumiho????
Z3nith
Profile Joined October 2017
485 Posts
September 19 2018 21:33 GMT
#50
On September 20 2018 06:06 Jimmon wrote:
Stats wins again.

Stats will rise.

Stats will be GSL Super tournament champion.

Stats will be 2018 Blizzcon Champion.

Mark these words.


I pray you're right, he needs an international tournament win
litLikeBic
Profile Joined August 2018
Canada105 Posts
September 19 2018 21:35 GMT
#51
On September 20 2018 06:06 Jimmon wrote:
Stats wins again.

Stats will rise.

Stats will be GSL Super tournament champion.

Stats will be 2018 Blizzcon Champion.

Mark these words.

no
Kalera
Profile Joined January 2018
United States338 Posts
September 19 2018 22:17 GMT
#52
On September 20 2018 06:19 fishjie wrote:
wait what happened to gumiho????


He lost to Creator and Hurricane and didn't qualify.
Nakajin
Profile Blog Joined September 2014
Canada8988 Posts
September 19 2018 22:21 GMT
#53
On September 20 2018 05:12 Poopi wrote:
Proxies are figured out now, no way KeeN beats sOs.
Same for fantasy unless Classic stopped practice or whatever


I think out of everyone in the world sOs know proxy are never figure out.
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Anc13nt
Profile Blog Joined October 2017
1557 Posts
September 19 2018 22:47 GMT
#54
I think soO has best chance of making the 8th spot with this bracket.
tagliatelle
Profile Joined August 2018
Canada69 Posts
September 19 2018 23:00 GMT
#55
Rogue
sOs
Solar
Stats
Bunny
Dark
Classic
TY
CaptainBurnTurn
Profile Joined February 2018
United States80 Posts
September 20 2018 00:18 GMT
#56
Here's what I'm thinking will happen
Ro16: Rogue, sOs > KeeN, Impact > Solar, Stats > Trap, soO > Bunny, Dark > Leenock, Classic > Fantasy, TY > Creator
Ro8: sOs > Rogue, Stats > Solar, Dark > soO, Classic > TY
Ro4: sOs > Stats, Dark > Classic
The Finals: Dark I think is most likely to win here, although I will cheer for sOs. Dark has had much better form this year so he could finally claim his third premier tournament win, but it's also Dark, and he's a Kong, so it's just as likely sOs wins.
Mark my words, sOs will win a GSL one day
Cricketer12
Profile Blog Joined May 2012
United States13968 Posts
September 20 2018 03:36 GMT
#57
On September 20 2018 00:18 deacon.frost wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 19 2018 23:48 Cricketer12 wrote:
On September 19 2018 21:46 Fango wrote:
If soO goes through Bunny, Dark, and Classic, he can make the finals. Then poviding sOs doesn't make said final, soO will get the spot.

Also there's no way Rogue or Maru would deny sOs a blizzcon spot right? I really think this comes down to soO vs sOs for it.

There is. What you suggest is basically match-fixing, the ultimate crime in sports.

Team strategy is match fixing? Is match fixing when Maru swaps people around so his team mates have easier groups(or at least think so )?

It all comes down what the team strategy is and how the rest of the games happens.

But in the end - it's inside the team. Unless somebody from the team would talk nobody will know. Look at Life, nobody knew he was match fixing ;-)

Group selection is completely different. It's like Coca v ByuN. Does no one remember that?
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RandomOnlyTheHumanLf
Profile Joined July 2018
58 Posts
September 20 2018 04:05 GMT
#58
I don't think Maru will practice as much as he did in GSL. He can be still vulnerable to Rogue and sOs.

According to Jin Air house, he's not a diligent practicer at all except when he prepares for top tier tournaments like GSL code S or tournaments with huge price of money like WESG, and Blizzcon. He becomes a lazy harp seal when he plays unimportant tournaments for him.
swarminfestor
Profile Joined September 2017
Malaysia2429 Posts
September 20 2018 04:21 GMT
#59
Nobody predicts Solar to win the tournament?
Rogue & Maru fan boy. ^^
Die4Ever
Profile Joined August 2010
United States17610 Posts
September 20 2018 06:11 GMT
#60
On September 20 2018 12:36 Cricketer12 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 20 2018 00:18 deacon.frost wrote:
On September 19 2018 23:48 Cricketer12 wrote:
On September 19 2018 21:46 Fango wrote:
If soO goes through Bunny, Dark, and Classic, he can make the finals. Then poviding sOs doesn't make said final, soO will get the spot.

Also there's no way Rogue or Maru would deny sOs a blizzcon spot right? I really think this comes down to soO vs sOs for it.

There is. What you suggest is basically match-fixing, the ultimate crime in sports.

Team strategy is match fixing? Is match fixing when Maru swaps people around so his team mates have easier groups(or at least think so )?

It all comes down what the team strategy is and how the rest of the games happens.

But in the end - it's inside the team. Unless somebody from the team would talk nobody will know. Look at Life, nobody knew he was match fixing ;-)

Group selection is completely different. It's like Coca v ByuN. Does no one remember that?

I remember that
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Phredxor
Profile Joined May 2013
New Zealand15076 Posts
September 20 2018 07:17 GMT
#61
On September 20 2018 12:36 Cricketer12 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 20 2018 00:18 deacon.frost wrote:
On September 19 2018 23:48 Cricketer12 wrote:
On September 19 2018 21:46 Fango wrote:
If soO goes through Bunny, Dark, and Classic, he can make the finals. Then poviding sOs doesn't make said final, soO will get the spot.

Also there's no way Rogue or Maru would deny sOs a blizzcon spot right? I really think this comes down to soO vs sOs for it.

There is. What you suggest is basically match-fixing, the ultimate crime in sports.

Team strategy is match fixing? Is match fixing when Maru swaps people around so his team mates have easier groups(or at least think so )?

It all comes down what the team strategy is and how the rest of the games happens.

But in the end - it's inside the team. Unless somebody from the team would talk nobody will know. Look at Life, nobody knew he was match fixing ;-)

Group selection is completely different. It's like Coca v ByuN. Does no one remember that?


Byun has a puppy. Therefore this never happened.
DubiousC2
Profile Joined June 2016
129 Posts
September 20 2018 07:30 GMT
#62
gooooooo sOs!
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Orlok
Profile Joined June 2014
Korea (South)227 Posts
September 20 2018 07:37 GMT
#63
#JinairFOREVER
#$O$
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dummy1
Profile Blog Joined April 2018
420 Posts
September 20 2018 08:22 GMT
#64
sOs Blizzcon champ 2018. Just imagine, just think about it.
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AzAlexZ
Profile Joined September 2016
Australia3303 Posts
September 20 2018 09:10 GMT
#65
On September 20 2018 16:17 Phredxor wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 20 2018 12:36 Cricketer12 wrote:
On September 20 2018 00:18 deacon.frost wrote:
On September 19 2018 23:48 Cricketer12 wrote:
On September 19 2018 21:46 Fango wrote:
If soO goes through Bunny, Dark, and Classic, he can make the finals. Then poviding sOs doesn't make said final, soO will get the spot.

Also there's no way Rogue or Maru would deny sOs a blizzcon spot right? I really think this comes down to soO vs sOs for it.

There is. What you suggest is basically match-fixing, the ultimate crime in sports.

Team strategy is match fixing? Is match fixing when Maru swaps people around so his team mates have easier groups(or at least think so )?

It all comes down what the team strategy is and how the rest of the games happens.

But in the end - it's inside the team. Unless somebody from the team would talk nobody will know. Look at Life, nobody knew he was match fixing ;-)

Group selection is completely different. It's like Coca v ByuN. Does no one remember that?


Byun has a puppy. Therefore this never happened.

That's not how it works lol
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DERASTAT
Profile Joined May 2014
Germany99 Posts
September 20 2018 09:36 GMT
#66
looks like another heartbreaking 2nd place for SoO
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negativedge
Profile Joined December 2011
4279 Posts
September 20 2018 09:41 GMT
#67
so maru has rogue, then probably sOs, and then possibly trap. who hates jin air?
HolydaKing
Profile Joined February 2010
21254 Posts
September 20 2018 10:17 GMT
#68
I'd love it if Fantasy makes it far in this tournament.
papapanda
Profile Joined April 2010
Taiwan326 Posts
Last Edited: 2018-09-20 10:41:21
September 20 2018 10:37 GMT
#69
Keen will beat sOs.

Also, i'm so glad we get to see Keen, Leenock, and Fantasy in ths tournament.
neutralrobot
Profile Joined July 2011
Australia1025 Posts
September 20 2018 10:41 GMT
#70
On September 20 2018 19:17 HolydaKing wrote:
I'd love it if Fantasy makes it far in this tournament.


I'd love this too. I want him to do really well.
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BisuDagger
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
Bisutopia19212 Posts
September 20 2018 11:16 GMT
#71
All SKT players stacked on the right. Not enough complaining about that one in this thread.
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deacon.frost
Profile Joined February 2013
Czech Republic12129 Posts
September 20 2018 11:27 GMT
#72
On September 20 2018 20:16 BisuDagger wrote:
All SKT players stacked on the right. Not enough complaining about that one in this thread.

SKT is no longer in the SC2 while JAGW is SKT ran away.
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Durnuu
Profile Joined September 2013
13319 Posts
September 20 2018 11:33 GMT
#73
On September 20 2018 20:16 BisuDagger wrote:
All SKT players stacked on the right. Not enough complaining about that one in this thread.

Impact is on the left. Everyone keeps forgetting about poor Impact
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Profile Blog Joined April 2005
Where dat snitch at?36960 Posts
Last Edited: 2018-09-20 13:21:59
September 20 2018 13:20 GMT
#74
On September 20 2018 20:16 BisuDagger wrote:
All SKT players stacked on the right. Not enough complaining about that one in this thread.

OMFG... Thank you for pointing this out. I noticed this right away. I was so fucking pissed...
On September 20 2018 20:33 Durnuu wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 20 2018 20:16 BisuDagger wrote:
All SKT players stacked on the right. Not enough complaining about that one in this thread.

Impact is on the left. Everyone keeps forgetting about poor Impact

LOL! I completely forgot about the fact that Impact used to be on SKT. I really need to start cheering for him to do well.
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fx9
Profile Joined November 2013
117 Posts
September 20 2018 13:53 GMT
#75
Haha the Jin air teamkill
DSK
Profile Blog Joined February 2015
England1110 Posts
September 20 2018 14:40 GMT
#76
Maru vs Rogue again? I don't feel so good Mr Stark Mizenhauer.....
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DomeGetta
Profile Joined February 2012
480 Posts
September 20 2018 14:40 GMT
#77
On September 20 2018 12:36 Cricketer12 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 20 2018 00:18 deacon.frost wrote:
On September 19 2018 23:48 Cricketer12 wrote:
On September 19 2018 21:46 Fango wrote:
If soO goes through Bunny, Dark, and Classic, he can make the finals. Then poviding sOs doesn't make said final, soO will get the spot.

Also there's no way Rogue or Maru would deny sOs a blizzcon spot right? I really think this comes down to soO vs sOs for it.

There is. What you suggest is basically match-fixing, the ultimate crime in sports.

Team strategy is match fixing? Is match fixing when Maru swaps people around so his team mates have easier groups(or at least think so )?

It all comes down what the team strategy is and how the rest of the games happens.

But in the end - it's inside the team. Unless somebody from the team would talk nobody will know. Look at Life, nobody knew he was match fixing ;-)

Group selection is completely different. It's like Coca v ByuN. Does no one remember that?


Cant ignore that independant of team impact etc its completely acceptable (and happens frequently) for big favorites at blizzcon (maru rogue) to not want to show their strongest builds in a tournament that is comparatively worthless to them.

That alone will lock it up for sos imo.
Cricketer12
Profile Blog Joined May 2012
United States13968 Posts
September 20 2018 15:06 GMT
#78
On September 20 2018 23:40 DomeGetta wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 20 2018 12:36 Cricketer12 wrote:
On September 20 2018 00:18 deacon.frost wrote:
On September 19 2018 23:48 Cricketer12 wrote:
On September 19 2018 21:46 Fango wrote:
If soO goes through Bunny, Dark, and Classic, he can make the finals. Then poviding sOs doesn't make said final, soO will get the spot.

Also there's no way Rogue or Maru would deny sOs a blizzcon spot right? I really think this comes down to soO vs sOs for it.

There is. What you suggest is basically match-fixing, the ultimate crime in sports.

Team strategy is match fixing? Is match fixing when Maru swaps people around so his team mates have easier groups(or at least think so )?

It all comes down what the team strategy is and how the rest of the games happens.

But in the end - it's inside the team. Unless somebody from the team would talk nobody will know. Look at Life, nobody knew he was match fixing ;-)

Group selection is completely different. It's like Coca v ByuN. Does no one remember that?


Cant ignore that independant of team impact etc its completely acceptable (and happens frequently) for big favorites at blizzcon (maru rogue) to not want to show their strongest builds in a tournament that is comparatively worthless to them.

That alone will lock it up for sos imo.

That is very different from what was initially suggested. What you are saying is indeed more than fine. I have no issue with it, and it is a huge part of strategy.
Should they choose to do that, will it be enough is hard to say.
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fishjie
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States1519 Posts
September 20 2018 15:10 GMT
#79
On September 20 2018 07:17 Kalera wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 20 2018 06:19 fishjie wrote:
wait what happened to gumiho????


He lost to Creator and Hurricane and didn't qualify.


what?????? laaaaaaame i didn't even know creator and hurricane still played
Nakajin
Profile Blog Joined September 2014
Canada8988 Posts
September 20 2018 15:45 GMT
#80
On September 21 2018 00:10 fishjie wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 20 2018 07:17 Kalera wrote:
On September 20 2018 06:19 fishjie wrote:
wait what happened to gumiho????


He lost to Creator and Hurricane and didn't qualify.


what?????? laaaaaaame i didn't even know creator and hurricane still played


Hurricane never stopped, he is a couple of very good day away of a very good GSL run, Creator I fell like he stop playing for a while, but it might just be he wasn't qualifying for anything
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TrashPanda
Profile Joined July 2018
69 Posts
Last Edited: 2018-09-20 15:49:23
September 20 2018 15:48 GMT
#81
Am I the only one thinking that Maru/Rogue will, lets say, "not go all out" against sOs in the quarterfinals? I mean with them all being teammates, sOs` Blizzcon on the line and Marus/Rogues usual attitude towards tournaments like that...
That would give sOs a pretty doable path to the finals with Keen -> Maru/Rogue -> probably Stats.
Kalera
Profile Joined January 2018
United States338 Posts
September 20 2018 16:35 GMT
#82
On September 21 2018 00:45 Nakajin wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 21 2018 00:10 fishjie wrote:
On September 20 2018 07:17 Kalera wrote:
On September 20 2018 06:19 fishjie wrote:
wait what happened to gumiho????


He lost to Creator and Hurricane and didn't qualify.


what?????? laaaaaaame i didn't even know creator and hurricane still played


Hurricane never stopped, he is a couple of very good day away of a very good GSL run, Creator I fell like he stop playing for a while, but it might just be he wasn't qualifying for anything


http://aligulac.com/players/2-Creator/results/

Looks like he's been playing pretty consistently, lots of online cups and all the qualifiers, but he hasn't been able to actually qualify for any offline events recently.
Cricketer12
Profile Blog Joined May 2012
United States13968 Posts
September 20 2018 17:26 GMT
#83
On September 21 2018 00:48 TrashPanda wrote:
Am I the only one thinking that Maru/Rogue will, lets say, "not go all out" against sOs in the quarterfinals? I mean with them all being teammates, sOs` Blizzcon on the line and Marus/Rogues usual attitude towards tournaments like that...
That would give sOs a pretty doable path to the finals with Keen -> Maru/Rogue -> probably Stats.

implying sOs can beat stats at super tournament is pretty lol
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Yonnua
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
United Kingdom2331 Posts
September 20 2018 18:59 GMT
#84
On September 21 2018 02:26 Cricketer12 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 21 2018 00:48 TrashPanda wrote:
Am I the only one thinking that Maru/Rogue will, lets say, "not go all out" against sOs in the quarterfinals? I mean with them all being teammates, sOs` Blizzcon on the line and Marus/Rogues usual attitude towards tournaments like that...
That would give sOs a pretty doable path to the finals with Keen -> Maru/Rogue -> probably Stats.

implying sOs can beat stats at super tournament is pretty lol

Interestingly, other than the Super Tournament he won, Stats has never advanced beyond the first round of Super Tournament before.
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swissman777
Profile Joined September 2014
1106 Posts
September 20 2018 19:13 GMT
#85
On September 21 2018 03:59 Yonnua wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 21 2018 02:26 Cricketer12 wrote:
On September 21 2018 00:48 TrashPanda wrote:
Am I the only one thinking that Maru/Rogue will, lets say, "not go all out" against sOs in the quarterfinals? I mean with them all being teammates, sOs` Blizzcon on the line and Marus/Rogues usual attitude towards tournaments like that...
That would give sOs a pretty doable path to the finals with Keen -> Maru/Rogue -> probably Stats.

implying sOs can beat stats at super tournament is pretty lol

Interestingly, other than the Super Tournament he won, Stats has never advanced beyond the first round of Super Tournament before.

Also I am pretty sure sOs has ok odds against Stats. No one player favored over the other.
EESCLuna
Profile Joined February 2017
Spain53 Posts
September 20 2018 20:25 GMT
#86
Give prize to Maru and stop wasting money like no tomorrow Plox
Balance means nerf Protoss
BigRedDog
Profile Joined May 2012
461 Posts
September 21 2018 00:47 GMT
#87
soO beating bunny is a huge possibility ...i hope he does well and makes it to blizzcon!
Big Red Dog!
Acacia
Profile Joined September 2018
3 Posts
September 21 2018 03:34 GMT
#88
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Vertical
Profile Joined July 2011
Indonesia4317 Posts
September 21 2018 04:10 GMT
#89
wow glad to si Fantasy is back
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renaissanceMAN
Profile Joined March 2011
United States1840 Posts
September 21 2018 13:11 GMT
#90
I was gonna ask if they picked this bracket blindfolded( but even then it wouldn’t have turned out this ridiculous!

Gonna be a hell of a torurnament, that’s for sure.
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dicey
Profile Joined November 2010
142 Posts
September 21 2018 14:16 GMT
#91
On September 21 2018 09:47 BigRedDog wrote:
soO beating bunny is a huge possibility ...i hope he does well and makes it to blizzcon!


Wait, that is still in the cards? Thought it was (if gets 2nd at least xD) not in the cards anymore! soO hfwaitiiing!
StasisField
Profile Joined August 2013
United States1086 Posts
September 21 2018 14:23 GMT
#92
On September 21 2018 23:16 dicey wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 21 2018 09:47 BigRedDog wrote:
soO beating bunny is a huge possibility ...i hope he does well and makes it to blizzcon!


Wait, that is still in the cards? Thought it was (if gets 2nd at least xD) not in the cards anymore! soO hfwaitiiing!

Yeah, he can still make it, but he has to go deep and hope the other people looking for that 8th spot don't play well
What do you mean Immortals can't shoot up?
Duceman
Profile Joined June 2018
United States87 Posts
September 21 2018 14:26 GMT
#93
I’m telling you all, don’t sleep on Solar.

He just made finals in the Onpoong Masters (lost to Dark 5-3) while beating TY, Classic, Zest, and Innovation to get there.

Impact is pretty manageable, Stats and Trap are okay opponents for him in the past - Solar vs. Stats is 35-37 in games.

Best $O$/Maru/Rogue/Keen?

That’s a tall order, but Maru and Rogue aren’t playing for anything. Keen won’t make it this far. sOs is intensely dangerous, and that’d be a fun series to watch.
CaptainBurnTurn
Profile Joined February 2018
United States80 Posts
September 21 2018 18:37 GMT
#94
On September 21 2018 04:13 swissman777 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 21 2018 03:59 Yonnua wrote:
On September 21 2018 02:26 Cricketer12 wrote:
On September 21 2018 00:48 TrashPanda wrote:
Am I the only one thinking that Maru/Rogue will, lets say, "not go all out" against sOs in the quarterfinals? I mean with them all being teammates, sOs` Blizzcon on the line and Marus/Rogues usual attitude towards tournaments like that...
That would give sOs a pretty doable path to the finals with Keen -> Maru/Rogue -> probably Stats.

implying sOs can beat stats at super tournament is pretty lol

Interestingly, other than the Super Tournament he won, Stats has never advanced beyond the first round of Super Tournament before.

Also I am pretty sure sOs has ok odds against Stats. No one player favored over the other.


He played pretty well against Stats in GSL Ro16 despite losing to him.
Mark my words, sOs will win a GSL one day
Sakat
Profile Blog Joined October 2014
Croatia1599 Posts
September 21 2018 18:54 GMT
#95
On September 21 2018 23:26 Duceman wrote:
I’m telling you all, don’t sleep on Solar.

He just made finals in the Onpoong Masters (lost to Dark 5-3) while beating TY, Classic, Zest, and Innovation to get there.

Impact is pretty manageable, Stats and Trap are okay opponents for him in the past - Solar vs. Stats is 35-37 in games.

Best $O$/Maru/Rogue/Keen?

That’s a tall order, but Maru and Rogue aren’t playing for anything. Keen won’t make it this far. sOs is intensely dangerous, and that’d be a fun series to watch.

Solar is always God in smaller tournaments.
My boy Ptak defeated two GSL champions!
argonautdice
Profile Joined January 2013
Canada2704 Posts
September 21 2018 19:17 GMT
#96
Solar winning super tournament and then Blizzcon is gonna be simultaneously the best and worst storyline.
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yht9657
Profile Joined December 2016
1810 Posts
September 22 2018 11:13 GMT
#97
On September 21 2018 23:26 Duceman wrote:
I’m telling you all, don’t sleep on Solar.

He just made finals in the Onpoong Masters (lost to Dark 5-3) while beating TY, Classic, Zest, and Innovation to get there.

Impact is pretty manageable, Stats and Trap are okay opponents for him in the past - Solar vs. Stats is 35-37 in games.

Best $O$/Maru/Rogue/Keen?

That’s a tall order, but Maru and Rogue aren’t playing for anything. Keen won’t make it this far. sOs is intensely dangerous, and that’d be a fun series to watch.

The thing about Solar is that he tends to choke a lot offline.
Nakajin
Profile Blog Joined September 2014
Canada8988 Posts
September 22 2018 12:06 GMT
#98
On September 22 2018 04:17 argonautdice wrote:
Solar winning super tournament and then Blizzcon is gonna be simultaneously the best and worst storyline.

Solar 4-1 against Stats who beat Maru in semi and Serral bombing out in group for the ultimate troll timeline
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Sakat
Profile Blog Joined October 2014
Croatia1599 Posts
September 22 2018 13:22 GMT
#99
On September 22 2018 21:06 Nakajin wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 22 2018 04:17 argonautdice wrote:
Solar winning super tournament and then Blizzcon is gonna be simultaneously the best and worst storyline.

Solar 4-1 against Stats who beat Maru in semi and Serral bombing out in group for the ultimate troll timeline

Without winning a map
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outscar
Profile Joined September 2014
2832 Posts
September 22 2018 14:29 GMT
#100
I want T fucking Y win this time some GSL, even if it's not original, but ST trophy, still I want my boy to take that and hold it!
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Konage47
Profile Joined September 2018
6 Posts
September 22 2018 21:42 GMT
#101
Maru and rogue has no reason to go hard in this tournament. Most likely we will see a showmatch between them because they want to hide builds for blizzcon. SoS will most likely take whoever makes it to the round of eight(if he gets there) since he is stilling trying to claim a spot
Clazziquai10
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
Singapore1949 Posts
September 23 2018 02:19 GMT
#102
I think this might be one of the few times where soo won't mind a 2nd place
brickrd
Profile Blog Joined March 2014
United States4894 Posts
September 23 2018 16:38 GMT
#103
On September 23 2018 06:42 Konage47 wrote:
Maru and rogue has no reason to go hard in this tournament. Most likely we will see a showmatch between them because they want to hide builds for blizzcon. SoS will most likely take whoever makes it to the round of eight(if he gets there) since he is stilling trying to claim a spot

usually "not going hard" in a tourney implies doing timing or cheese based builds, and maru & rogue are both good enough to beat any opponent with nothing but allins
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Geo.Rion
Profile Blog Joined October 2008
7377 Posts
September 24 2018 07:06 GMT
#104
On September 23 2018 06:42 Konage47 wrote:http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/smilies.php
Maru and rogue has no reason to go hard in this tournament. Most likely we will see a showmatch between them because they want to hide builds for blizzcon. SoS will most likely take whoever makes it to the round of eight(if he gets there) since he is stilling trying to claim a spot

Yes professional players who make a living out of winnings and promoting their personal brand and their sponsor have no reason to try in a tournament that offers some of the highest level of competition there is.

I see you use a throwaway account for posting things like this, very "clever".
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deacon.frost
Profile Joined February 2013
Czech Republic12129 Posts
September 24 2018 08:40 GMT
#105
On September 24 2018 16:06 Geo.Rion wrote:
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On September 23 2018 06:42 Konage47 wrote:http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/smilies.php
Maru and rogue has no reason to go hard in this tournament. Most likely we will see a showmatch between them because they want to hide builds for blizzcon. SoS will most likely take whoever makes it to the round of eight(if he gets there) since he is stilling trying to claim a spot

Yes professional players who make a living out of winnings and promoting their personal brand and their sponsor have no reason to try in a tournament that offers some of the highest level of competition there is.

I see you use a throwaway account for posting things like this, very "clever".

Well, writing about promoting sponsors is kinda weird when this is a teamkill, so whoever wins is promoting the sponsor. Both are rich and both are on the last KeSPA team we have in SC2, so probably having good income anyway and both know, that they will get much more money from Blizzcon so it's more important to succeed there. As you wrote, they are professionals
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brickrd
Profile Blog Joined March 2014
United States4894 Posts
Last Edited: 2018-09-24 08:50:45
September 24 2018 08:46 GMT
#106
On September 24 2018 17:40 deacon.frost wrote:
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On September 24 2018 16:06 Geo.Rion wrote:
On September 23 2018 06:42 Konage47 wrote:http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/smilies.php
Maru and rogue has no reason to go hard in this tournament. Most likely we will see a showmatch between them because they want to hide builds for blizzcon. SoS will most likely take whoever makes it to the round of eight(if he gets there) since he is stilling trying to claim a spot

Yes professional players who make a living out of winnings and promoting their personal brand and their sponsor have no reason to try in a tournament that offers some of the highest level of competition there is.

I see you use a throwaway account for posting things like this, very "clever".

Well, writing about promoting sponsors is kinda weird when this is a teamkill, so whoever wins is promoting the sponsor. Both are rich and both are on the last KeSPA team we have in SC2, so probably having good income anyway and both know, that they will get much more money from Blizzcon so it's more important to succeed there. As you wrote, they are professionals

i dunno if i agree that either one of them winning makes it all even to the sponsors - surely both players showing impressive games is better than only one player looking impressive, which is in turn better than neither player looking impressive? sponsorship isn't just having a logo on your shirt; it's also a brand association that is directly affected by public opinion of the sponsored player

as for Geo.Rion's post though - i agree with his point, but i don't think criticizing someone's post count is necessary. just because someone has 2 posts and you disagree with them that doesn't automatically make them a bad faith user comments like that make people not want to join places like TL
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jarodtou
Profile Joined July 2016
167 Posts
September 24 2018 09:14 GMT
#107
I`m a bit afraid that Maru/Rogue will throw vs SoS. Which is a bit undestandable, but it is bad for the competition. I hope it will not happen. Simillar stuff is happening also in F1, when a driver let other driver from same team ahead when they are in need of points. Something simillar may happen also here.
Charoisaur
Profile Joined August 2014
Germany15880 Posts
September 24 2018 09:16 GMT
#108
On September 24 2018 17:46 brickrd wrote:
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On September 24 2018 17:40 deacon.frost wrote:
On September 24 2018 16:06 Geo.Rion wrote:
On September 23 2018 06:42 Konage47 wrote:http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/smilies.php
Maru and rogue has no reason to go hard in this tournament. Most likely we will see a showmatch between them because they want to hide builds for blizzcon. SoS will most likely take whoever makes it to the round of eight(if he gets there) since he is stilling trying to claim a spot

Yes professional players who make a living out of winnings and promoting their personal brand and their sponsor have no reason to try in a tournament that offers some of the highest level of competition there is.

I see you use a throwaway account for posting things like this, very "clever".

Well, writing about promoting sponsors is kinda weird when this is a teamkill, so whoever wins is promoting the sponsor. Both are rich and both are on the last KeSPA team we have in SC2, so probably having good income anyway and both know, that they will get much more money from Blizzcon so it's more important to succeed there. As you wrote, they are professionals


as for Geo.Rion's post though - i agree with his point, but i don't think criticizing someone's post count is necessary. just because someone has 2 posts and you disagree with them that doesn't automatically make them a bad faith user comments like that make people not want to join places like TL

I think new users should have at least 100 posts before being allowed to post on TL
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Geo.Rion
Profile Blog Joined October 2008
7377 Posts
September 24 2018 10:17 GMT
#109
On September 24 2018 17:46 brickrd wrote:
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On September 24 2018 17:40 deacon.frost wrote:
On September 24 2018 16:06 Geo.Rion wrote:
On September 23 2018 06:42 Konage47 wrote:http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/smilies.php
Maru and rogue has no reason to go hard in this tournament. Most likely we will see a showmatch between them because they want to hide builds for blizzcon. SoS will most likely take whoever makes it to the round of eight(if he gets there) since he is stilling trying to claim a spot

Yes professional players who make a living out of winnings and promoting their personal brand and their sponsor have no reason to try in a tournament that offers some of the highest level of competition there is.

I see you use a throwaway account for posting things like this, very "clever".

Well, writing about promoting sponsors is kinda weird when this is a teamkill, so whoever wins is promoting the sponsor. Both are rich and both are on the last KeSPA team we have in SC2, so probably having good income anyway and both know, that they will get much more money from Blizzcon so it's more important to succeed there. As you wrote, they are professionals

i dunno if i agree that either one of them winning makes it all even to the sponsors - surely both players showing impressive games is better than only one player looking impressive, which is in turn better than neither player looking impressive? sponsorship isn't just having a logo on your shirt; it's also a brand association that is directly affected by public opinion of the sponsored player

as for Geo.Rion's post though - i agree with his point, but i don't think criticizing someone's post count is necessary. just because someone has 2 posts and you disagree with them that doesn't automatically make them a bad faith user comments like that make people not want to join places like TL

Yeah, the attitude of the comment is really familiar, yet the poster has 2 comments so far... sure, im jumping to conclusions, based on little evidence, but still.

I have nothing against new (real) users, im not a post-count elitist.
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Nostromo1
Profile Joined April 2016
36 Posts
September 25 2018 13:09 GMT
#110
On September 24 2018 18:14 jarodtou wrote:
I`m a bit afraid that Maru/Rogue will throw vs SoS. Which is a bit undestandable, but it is bad for the competition. I hope it will not happen. Simillar stuff is happening also in F1, when a driver let other driver from same team ahead when they are in need of points. Something simillar may happen also here.


Yes I'm afraid of this too hope Blizzard is watching very careful for potential match fixing and in regards to your Formula 1 comparison, the thing is in F1 it is 100% legal and part of strategy for winning the drivers championship while also still attaining the same number of points in the constructors championship and if you know anything about F1 the major teams Ferrari, Mercedes and Red Bull all have number 1 drivers that hold precedence over the other this is the case for all teams in fact just the scenario you described above tends to only happen with teams in contention so they are different but the same in general practice just one is legal and one is not.
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