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Rogue and GuMiho advance to GSL Ro8 (Season 3) - Page 2

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Yonnua
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
United Kingdom2331 Posts
August 18 2018 22:12 GMT
#21
On August 19 2018 01:14 Seeker wrote:
Welp, this is officially the worst GSL season ever for me. Classic and soO get eliminated in the Ro32, and Dark and INnoVation go out in the Ro16. I don't care about any of the players left in this GSL anymore...


I feel this way basically every GSL, where all the interesting players are eliminated early and it's the same gang of boring standard styles for the last few rounds.

We've had enough tournaments over the past few years which has a final eight with some combination of Innovation, Stats, Classic, SoO, Dark, Zest, Maru, and TY.

Much as I like most of those players, it's nice to get more diversity and to see different stories told.
LRSL 2014 Finalist! PartinG | Mvp | Bomber | Creator | NaNiwa | herO
tagliatelle
Profile Joined August 2018
Canada69 Posts
August 18 2018 22:47 GMT
#22
Happy for the two advancing players but I felt like all 4 of them could have made it to Ro8 had they been in other groups, but that's the way she goes. Hope Rogue is able to pull through all the way to the finals!
BlingBlang
Profile Joined June 2018
21 Posts
Last Edited: 2018-08-19 00:24:35
August 19 2018 00:22 GMT
#23
Gumiho is (in my humble opinion) the most intelligent, dynamic and creative SC2 player of all time. I feel like he gets so drastically underestimated because as a person he doesn't have the allure of Innovation or TY. His builds are so unique and funky. I love watching him so much. I think he is the main reason I stuck around with SC2.
neutralrobot
Profile Joined July 2011
Australia1025 Posts
August 19 2018 02:46 GMT
#24
On August 19 2018 05:58 Zephyp wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 18 2018 22:30 swarminfestor wrote:
I see the inconsistencies from Rogue. Sometimes he is damn good, sometimes he is below the par. Some spectators always underestimate him based on his recent performances.

Which of the best players doesn't fit this description? All of them do. Every player whose ever been "damn good" doesn't stay so forever. Innovation, soO, sOs, Classic, TY, Maru, Zest... the list never ends. Because it's so difficult to stay damn good for longer periods of time.


I feel like when (for example) INnoVation hit his previous peaks, he was consistent for a good stretch of time before he fell off and had to claw his way back again. Whereas with Rogue, it seems like he flops back and forth in form radically in relatively short timespans, and hasn't had a very long period of looking dominant. This is subjective on my part, though. I'm open to being corrected by data. Even Maru is a bit different right now, IMO, because it feels like he knows when to rest, rather than just coming to the top and burning out.
Maru | Life | PartinG || I guess I like aggressive control freaks... || Reynor will one day reign supreme || *reyn supreme
FrostedMiniWheats
Profile Joined August 2010
United States30730 Posts
Last Edited: 2018-08-19 02:58:46
August 19 2018 02:58 GMT
#25
On August 19 2018 05:58 Zephyp wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 18 2018 22:30 swarminfestor wrote:
I see the inconsistencies from Rogue. Sometimes he is damn good, sometimes he is below the par. Some spectators always underestimate him based on his recent performances.

Which of the best players doesn't fit this description? All of them do. Every player whose ever been "damn good" doesn't stay so forever. Innovation, soO, sOs, Classic, TY, Maru, Zest... the list never ends. Because it's so difficult to stay damn good for longer periods of time.


Well, of course, nothing lasts forever, but this year Rogue has been fluctuating back and forth to the extent that you generally don't see from a lot of players.

GSL s1: Out in the ro32

IEM WC: 1st

GSL ST 1: Out in the first round

GSL s2: ro8 and almost beat Maru

GSL vs The World: out in the first round

GSL s3: Currently ro8 and with the way things are looking, could easily go to the finals (especially if he gets herO in the semis)
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Freeedom
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States201 Posts
August 19 2018 03:22 GMT
#26
happy for GuMiho to advance. He's one of my favorites to watch coz his games are never boring. That and he's on our team but that's probably why.
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swarminfestor
Profile Joined September 2017
Malaysia2466 Posts
August 19 2018 06:14 GMT
#27
On August 19 2018 11:58 FrostedMiniWheats wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 19 2018 05:58 Zephyp wrote:
On August 18 2018 22:30 swarminfestor wrote:
I see the inconsistencies from Rogue. Sometimes he is damn good, sometimes he is below the par. Some spectators always underestimate him based on his recent performances.

Which of the best players doesn't fit this description? All of them do. Every player whose ever been "damn good" doesn't stay so forever. Innovation, soO, sOs, Classic, TY, Maru, Zest... the list never ends. Because it's so difficult to stay damn good for longer periods of time.


Well, of course, nothing lasts forever, but this year Rogue has been fluctuating back and forth to the extent that you generally don't see from a lot of players.

GSL s1: Out in the ro32

IEM WC: 1st

GSL ST 1: Out in the first round

GSL s2: ro8 and almost beat Maru

GSL vs The World: out in the first round

GSL s3: Currently ro8 and with the way things are looking, could easily go to the finals (especially if he gets herO in the semis)


Good one. You pondered it well.
I predict Rogue will not do good in GSL Super tournament II as well.
Rogue & Maru fan boy. ^^
FanaticCZ
Profile Joined December 2011
Czech Republic287 Posts
August 19 2018 08:39 GMT
#28
Innovation out in season 3? What is this?!
INnoVation is the GOAT!
RealityTheGreat
Profile Joined January 2018
China564 Posts
Last Edited: 2018-08-19 11:42:43
August 19 2018 11:39 GMT
#29
The last hope of Terran:2rax mech and SCV all-in.
Flash's last word:If you can't win in macro,just let them eat your drill.
Betrayed, forgotten, abandoned.
Poopi
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
France13018 Posts
August 19 2018 11:56 GMT
#30
On August 19 2018 11:46 neutralrobot wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 19 2018 05:58 Zephyp wrote:
On August 18 2018 22:30 swarminfestor wrote:
I see the inconsistencies from Rogue. Sometimes he is damn good, sometimes he is below the par. Some spectators always underestimate him based on his recent performances.

Which of the best players doesn't fit this description? All of them do. Every player whose ever been "damn good" doesn't stay so forever. Innovation, soO, sOs, Classic, TY, Maru, Zest... the list never ends. Because it's so difficult to stay damn good for longer periods of time.


I feel like when (for example) INnoVation hit his previous peaks, he was consistent for a good stretch of time before he fell off and had to claw his way back again. Whereas with Rogue, it seems like he flops back and forth in form radically in relatively short timespans, and hasn't had a very long period of looking dominant. This is subjective on my part, though. I'm open to being corrected by data. Even Maru is a bit different right now, IMO, because it feels like he knows when to rest, rather than just coming to the top and burning out.

Yeah I think Maru has matured a lot, he plays more solid styles if that's needed to win instead of looking good, and he knows when to practice the most or not to allow for a high number of victories.
WriterMaru
tskarzyn
Profile Joined July 2010
United States516 Posts
Last Edited: 2018-08-19 12:48:19
August 19 2018 12:47 GMT
#31
Bad bracket luck for Inno. The best ZvTer in the world followed by the best TvTer in the world. WP Gumi. Serves Dark right for picking him.
Fej
Profile Joined July 2011
Hungary26 Posts
August 19 2018 18:01 GMT
#32
Dark
leublix
Profile Joined May 2017
493 Posts
August 19 2018 23:34 GMT
#33
If Dark wouldn't fuck up the group selection every time he would have more second places than soO.
Zephyp
Profile Joined April 2013
238 Posts
August 20 2018 05:54 GMT
#34
On August 19 2018 20:56 Poopi wrote:
Yeah I think Maru has matured a lot, he plays more solid styles if that's needed to win instead of looking good, and he knows when to practice the most or not to allow for a high number of victories.

You mean 2-rax when he needs to win.

He seems more consistent, but time will tell.
Poopi
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
France13018 Posts
August 20 2018 06:24 GMT
#35
Well 2rax seems like the most solid build in TvZ.
WriterMaru
Geo.Rion
Profile Blog Joined October 2008
7377 Posts
August 20 2018 06:29 GMT
#36
there were some silly games in this group
"Protoss is a joke" Liquid`Jinro Okt.1. 2011
opisska
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Poland8852 Posts
August 20 2018 06:32 GMT
#37
Lol poor Serral. His legendary run is now officially "beat two ro16 dropouts".
"Jeez, that's far from ideal." - Serral, the king of mild trashtalk
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Geo.Rion
Profile Blog Joined October 2008
7377 Posts
August 20 2018 06:55 GMT
#38
On August 20 2018 15:32 opisska wrote:
Lol poor Serral. His legendary run is now officially "beat two ro16 dropouts".

Jesus H Christ, you people never stop
"Protoss is a joke" Liquid`Jinro Okt.1. 2011
Veluvian
Profile Joined December 2011
Bulgaria256 Posts
August 20 2018 07:51 GMT
#39
To be honest, games in Group A were more interesting and unpredictable. All of the players in Group B did not show their top level, may be except Gumi who was really impressive! Even the way he lost to TY last season on the semifinal showed that Gumiho is back.
I am really dissapointed for Dark and his mentality. This long waiting for him and TY getting a GSL title is a real nightmare I guess not only for me but for all of their fans. Yeah, TY is not out yet, but I'm losing any hopes. If TY can't make it, at least I hope to see no terran wins the GSL because I'm tired by terrans. I guess only Stats can stay positive and successful at least to the final.
Oz; MMA; Rain; sOs; Classic, Soulkey, TY, Dark
medium_AI
Profile Joined August 2017
Norway42 Posts
August 20 2018 09:51 GMT
#40
On August 20 2018 15:32 opisska wrote:
Lol poor Serral. His legendary run is now officially "beat two ro16 dropouts".

Ouch...
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