On August 11 2018 16:53 Dingodile wrote: You don't have to play all day long. 5 skins are available right now, the next 5 in ~25 days and the rest in ~50 days. Most effective way is a total of 15min each session all 3 days (one session for one skin). 3x 1v1 vs very easy AI, once with double proxy barracks, cannon rush and 12pool. each game 5min done.
edit: not all 3 days. every day! I got 100k free bounty for each race today and yesterday.
point is, it shouldn't even require you to play to unlock. the time you spend on cheese could have spend elsewhere. It's an extension of reward program, it's incredibly annoying for me personally but I can see why some wouldn't mind it.
On August 11 2018 01:55 ReachTheSky wrote: Hell, I'd love to give them my money but I wouldn't receive the product right away, I'd have to work for it in addition to already paying for it(which is retarded).
lol that's how video games work. you buy it and start with nothing and you have to play it to make progress. do you buy a game and expect it to come with a game save with 100% completion? or some kind of god mode to go around doing whatever you want? just fyi before you buy a book, you're gonna have to spend hours studying it before you learn anything. the knowledge doesn't just appear in your head as soon as you own it. also if you buy some running shoes you're gonna have to run for months before you get in shape. it's a crazy world out there where you pay for things that just enable you to work for what you want. video games mimic it
I have a lot of respect for you Nony and I've supported you via donations in the past, but you couldn't be more wrong. If I buy something, I want to be able to use it. I can't use the skins if I buy them. It's that simple. I have to buy them and then I can't even use them. I have to do even more after that.
Your analogies are off here Nony. If I buy running shoes, I can use them right away. Can't do that with the skins.
How would you feel if you bought running shoes and then are forced to run without them in order to obtain permission to use what you already bought? You wouldn't like that at all. And that's exactly what this situation is. It's unacceptable.
This is literally the worst possible way to sell a product lol.
I feel like there are too many people that blindly defend blizzard without even really thinking about the situation. Not enough think-for-themselfers in this world.
Okay but you're not buying skins. You're buying extended progression which has skins as some of the rewards. You can use it immediately by working on the progression. This is so common across so many kinds of games. You do the same gameplay you've always been doing but you get new rewards for doing it. It gives that same gameplay more meaning. It's simple and it works. People like it for some reason. There's nothing wrong with liking it. I guess it's some part of human nature.
If that's not a product you want then that's okay. There's nothing wrong with you preferring to acquire skins a different way. But you at least need to understand what kind of product this is so that you can have a shred of respect for people who do like it. Nobody is "retarded" or being exploited or anything.
If you want to give Blizzard money and Blizzard gives you skin, that bypasses gameplay entirely. The default way this works is that a game's artists and programmers create the rewards which you then earn via gameplay. They still need to get paid for creating it even though they required you to play the game to actually get it. That is just how video games work. You have to play the game. I know that a lot of games (Blizzard games included, SC2 included actually) will just give you something if you give them money. But I can't believe that someone would get offended when they create a product which brings gameplay back into the equation, like it's some kind of scam.
Buying something and earning something are two different concepts Nony. I shouldn't have to earn something after i've paid for it. Also, The store in the sc2 does not state that the skins is "extended progression". it's literally skinpack for sale.
I do want the skins, but i'm not willing to allow blizzard to control how I spend my time just so I can receive what I pay for.
Other people like war chests. We've tried to explain to you why we like them. You don't get it, that's fine. Maybe we suck at explaining. Maybe you've got a mental block on understanding it. In any case, the war chest design is not for you, that's fine. Your preference on just paying for a skin and receiving a skin is perfectly legit.
But you don't have to be so insulting and dismissive. Just because you can express a legitimate argument against something doesn't mean it's bad or that you're right. In this case, that's all you have is a personal preference. You essentially fished for counter-arguments by insulting people who dare to like the thing you don't like. You received those counter-arguments. They apparently weren't good enough to explain the other perspective to you. So I guess that's that.
If you'd just be more respectful of others' preferences then it wouldn't have been an issue.
No one insulted you Nony. Hell, I even praised you at the beginning of my first reply to you. Simmer down, It's not about you and never was.
Bought it but only terrans. My personal opinion on it is that we are living in a broken society... I mean... My personal opinion on WARCHEST, yes. Ok. It's good to have something beautiful, yeah. Shiny thing. But how many more skins will there be? And what's next? Buildings, banners? I think it would be better to put money from warchest not in Blizzcon but in additional tournaments for amature players or 6k gm players like code A, wsc challengers. Make the money more accessible. Yeah.
On August 12 2018 00:04 dummy1 wrote: Bought it but only terrans. My personal opinion on it is that we are living in a broken society... I mean... My personal opinion on WARCHEST, yes. Ok. It's good to have something beautiful, yeah. Shiny thing. But how many more skins will there be? And what's next? Buildings, banners? I think it would be better to put money from warchest not in Blizzcon but in additional tournaments for amature players or 6k gm players like code A, wsc challengers. Make the money more accessible. Yeah.
Agree. Blizzcon doesn't need more cashprize. SCII needs to have more tournaments for rank B players (low gm and top masters). Challengers only give money to people who will win money in the main tournament anyway. It is more money for the same players.
No, it's not about me. I didn't make it about me. You brought up outside stuff that isn't relevant.
My observation is that the way you talk about war chests, you think Blizzard is dumb for designing them the way they are and you think people wanting them the way they are is dumb as well. Nobody can read all of your posts in this thread and come to any other conclusion. You had the option to express your preference while respecting the people who have a different preference. Instead, you repeatedly used extreme and insulting language ("nonsense" "unacceptable" "retarded" etc) to make it clear that anyone who disagrees with you on this is absolutely wrong, behaving irrationally, encouraging bad business practices, being a bad consumer, doesn't know what's good for themselves, etc. Since I like the way the war chest is, and I like video games that are generally set up this way (making me work for rewards rather than pay to win, whether that's winning a competition or winning a prize), that puts me in the group of people you disrespected.
And when people try to share their perspective, you get defensive and double down as if it's an argument. It's ridiculous.
Instead of insulting and disrespecting people to bait them into having to defend themselves, why don't you just say something like "I'd prefer it if I could just give Blizzard money and they give me the collectibles. Can anyone who likes having to grind for this stuff explain why you like it?" That's all. No argument.
But honestly it seems like you're not interested in learning a different perspective. The way you have behaved it seems like you are looking for an argument, not a discussion. As people respond to you, you've repeated the same points over and over. It looks very much like you just picked a side to this issue and enjoy repeatedly arguing its points, while disrespecting everyone who doesn't agree.
I don't understand why anyone would want skins and at the same time not want to play the game. If you do play the game, the unlock happens in no time. I've already unlocked all of Phase 1 in under 3 days just playing normally a mix of co-op and ladder.
Honestly, the only thing we should talking about in this thread is why the Protoss skins are terrible compared to the Zerg and Terran ones this time around.
Tbh, I like the protoss skins. They look hardly different in screenshots and co, but ingame they actually look nice. Not as mindnumbing as the zerg tho...
On August 13 2018 14:52 Dekker wrote: Tbh, I like the protoss skins. They look hardly different in screenshots and co, but ingame they actually look nice. Not as mindnumbing as the zerg tho...
lmao you are crazy, the new zerg skins are amazing and a huge improvement over the last two zerg race skins which just added spikes to everything
this zerg skins is much better than the original. Blizzard only allow original skins at tournaments. I think that must change to this skin-pack after Blizzcon. All 3 races look better with this than the original skins.
On August 13 2018 14:52 Dekker wrote: Tbh, I like the protoss skins. They look hardly different in screenshots and co, but ingame they actually look nice. Not as mindnumbing as the zerg tho...
lmao you are crazy, the new zerg skins are amazing and a huge improvement over the last two zerg race skins which just added spikes to everything
I think you completly misunderstood me... I said I like the new protoss skins ingame, even though they are not as good as the zerg ones. I guess I misused mindnumbing?
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