How do you feel about being able to select as many units as you can? I think that this will make the game feel too much like C&C and not enough like starcraft. I'd be all for increasing the number of units you can select to something like 24, but eliminating the cap all together seems like it would cause balance issues. Imagine if zerg could swarm their whole army with one click!
Also the source is http://au.pc.ign.com/articles/790/790158p1.html

Capt. Moroni

United States533 Posts

May 20 2007 02:20 GMT

I don't see a problem with that. You'd still need smaller groups and be able to maneuver, otherwise the units will get torn up.

IntoTheWow

is awesome32269 Posts

May 20 2007 02:20 GMT

I would rather have 15 or so as unit limit. But if they decide to leave it unlimited, dont let units use their powers when grouped with other type of units like with heroes in W3.

azndsh

United States4447 Posts

May 20 2007 02:25 GMT

dude... 200 3/3 crackings gogogogogogogo. Imagine the awesomeness. It appears Blizzard is just getting rid of interface limitations as a whole.

Protoss and Terran users have it sooo much easier, especially protoss. WTF, you can move around your entire army with like... #1-5. I can't even get half my lings using that

Bully-Cdn

Peru58 Posts

May 20 2007 02:26 GMT

unlimited is great.. of course its gonna help noobs who are too lazy to make hotkeys, but who cares.. any skilled player is going to want much more specific control, and make smaller groups.. i think this feature opens alot for creative micro strats, everyone can have their own unique style of grouping now.

Liquid`Jinro

Sweden33719 Posts

May 20 2007 02:27 GMT

I'd prefer a number like 12, 16, maybe 20 (seems a lot to me tho).

But most of all I'm concerned they'll let you hotkey all your gates at once AND build from them (if you could hotkey all your gates and rally point them that'd be fine I think).

Yogurt

United States4258 Posts

May 20 2007 02:40 GMT

On May 20 2007 11:27 FrozenArbiter wrote:
I'd prefer a number like 12, 16, maybe 20 (seems a lot to me tho).

But most of all I'm concerned they'll let you hotkey all your gates at once AND build from them (if you could hotkey all your gates and rally point them that'd be fine I think).

i wouldnt mind so much if u could hotkey and cycle with tab. but definately not 2 button massing

Zeenix

United States47 Posts

May 20 2007 02:46 GMT

Zerg would own if they could select all their larva at once and just hit "z."

dudel

Germany188 Posts

May 20 2007 02:53 GMT

I think it is good for the casual players who wondered why there is a cap in sc1 and they will use it. But also for the professionals who need to group their different unit types and this is one point of skill difference between casual and good players. So it is a win-win situation for both parties.

Liquid`Jinro

Sweden33719 Posts

May 20 2007 02:54 GMT

#10

On May 20 2007 11:40 Yogurt wrote:

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i wouldnt mind so much if u could hotkey and cycle with tab. but definately not 2 button massing

Yeah, I think I actually wrote the exact same thing in another thread, great minds think alike?

azndsh

United States4447 Posts

May 20 2007 03:03 GMT

#11

Just because you can make one large group for gateways and such doesn't make all that big of a difference, since everybody has the same advantage. Macro isn't just about forgetting to build; timing is more important at higher levels anyway. Again, for very large groups, it's still useful to group units separately and make sure they attack in a certain order and stuff.

evanthebouncy!

United States12796 Posts

May 20 2007 03:08 GMT

#12

I'm for it. You can still select 12 units if you want to, it's not like they'll go OMG we will have massive unit selection now u cannot specialize units anymore! :D

But yeah what WOW said is very right, if you select all units you will only get atk/patrol/stop command instead of spellcasting ect

Liquid`Jinro

Sweden33719 Posts

May 20 2007 03:10 GMT

#13

I'd much prefer something like.. 16 unit cap, but you can press tab to jump between unit types selected a la warcraft 3.

That is if anything has to be changed from the way starcraft works

I'd prefer that, over unlimited select.

Locked

United States4182 Posts

May 20 2007 03:10 GMT

#14

i would also rather simply have a larger unit cap (16..20..24... w/e) rather than an unlimited one but i guess i'll need to see SC2 in play to make any real judgements =\\

TheOvermind77

United States923 Posts

May 20 2007 03:12 GMT

#15

Zerg users should understand why this is a necesity...

It is rough to use groups to make your friggin' lings go when you already have 1-6 hotkeyed as hatcheries...

pooper-scooper

United States3108 Posts

May 20 2007 03:15 GMT

#16

I agree with having a larger cap, say 20 units, but I think I'd have to play the game a bit to decide on the exact number.

oneofthem

Cayman Islands24199 Posts

May 20 2007 03:17 GMT

#17

I agree this affects gameplay severely. Whether this is a good change or not, it is a huge change. I do not know why they did this, a 16 unit selection limit would be much better than limitless.

But, how reliable is this source?

NastyMarine

United States1252 Posts

May 20 2007 03:17 GMT

#18

I think large scaled and small skirmishes will be different but still be challenging. IE Hotkeying different unit groups so they are seperated to perform specific spells etc. And this idea improves large scale battles for many users. I think they did a good thing, though it may or may not have dumbed it down a bit.

Jyvblamo

Canada13788 Posts

May 20 2007 03:19 GMT

#19

On May 20 2007 12:17 oneofthem wrote:
I agree this affects gameplay severely. Whether this is a good change or not, it is a huge change. I do not know why they did this, a 16 unit selection limit would be much better than limitless.

In the gameplay trailer, there were like 120 zerglings bursting out of nydus worms. Imagine trying to control that smoothly with a 16 unit selection limit. It seems likely that they've decreased the strength of zerglings and increased their numbers significantly (You see how pathetic they were against the ~12 zealots?) so it makes sense to have no selection limit.

DrainX

Sweden3187 Posts

May 20 2007 03:19 GMT

#20

If there was no selection cap in starcraft or if it was 24 istead of 12 then I think that that would affect terran the least. Terran still have to micro all their unit sand cant just attackmove their entire army in a general direction. Since it looks like the other races or atleast protoss are moving in that direction too with more units having special abilitys and more need to micro them individualy if you want more out of the units I dont think that this higher cap will affect starcraft 2 as much as it might have affected starcraft if it was introduced now.