Small details you may have overlooked

On May 19 2007 15:59 EscPlan9 wrote:

A dancing holographic girl (gameplay vid when Immortals are introduced)

On May 19 2007 16:39 LastRomantic wrote:
I think "create" just basically means rally points of warp gates are instant teleport, instead of walk/fly over.

Not sure though.

New racial abilities

Protoss

* Create shields on explored land anywhere on the map.

On May 19 2007 16:53 Raist wrote:
ohhhhh WHOAAAA that makes so much more sense!
holy cow...........wowowowowow that's insanely awesome

btw did anyone notice this from the SC2 Wiki?

where did they get this from? i saw the entire WWI Day 1 announcement video on the tracker and didnt hear about this at all, nor do i see this on the starcraft2.com page

On May 19 2007 16:33 Raist wrote:
in the gameplay video where the gigantic swarms of zerglings are attacking what he called 'upgraded zealots' (this was right before the Collusus unit was introduced which killed all the zerglings), not a single zealot died for at least 16 seconds of being underattack by zerglings (the outer zealots were being attacked by over 5 zerglings for at least 12 full seconds and it and none of its friends didnt die)
keep in mind this is being played not on the Fastest speed, probably Average/Normal or whatever, yet still something seemed off there. maybe they had tons of upgrades

also keep in mind that yes while the 2 Colluses racked up tons of zergling kills, they were with the support of 16 upgraded zealots (5 total zealots were dead by the end of the zergling massacre) attacking before and through the whole duration, i imagine 2 reavers along w/ 16 zealots would also do fairly well vs gigantic groups of zerglings like that

also while they said Dustin Browder said the word 'create' when he was warping in the first stalkers, I believe he meant warp in already created units through using the Warp Gates to be able to transport units to anywhere on the map that is powered by protoss psionic energy field (so what pylons and phase prisms both provide)

On May 19 2007 16:55 useless wrote:


From IGN guy:
3:10 - Terran reapers - can hop across uneven terrain with jump packs - two types of small pistols that don't activate immortals. Protoss now have the ability to create shields whenever they want. Protoss can now warp in units from manufacturing facilities anything within pylon range.

On May 19 2007 18:18 mahnini wrote:
Did anyone notice how fast shield regenerates for the mothership? It went from 0 to like 120 in like 3 seconds.

On May 19 2007 18:31 EscPlan9 wrote:
The english dubber dude specifically mentioned "usually the mothership would be out of shields by now... but this is a demo"

On May 19 2007 16:08 minus_human wrote:
Command box is 4x5 instead of 3x3
Zealots look like they almost lose their balance when attacking((

On May 19 2007 18:23 FrozenArbiter wrote:

Maybe they fixed the stats etc so that none of the units they were demonstrating would die?

On May 19 2007 19:00 Raist wrote:
good point, reavers didnt catch that

but this psi storm ppl are talking about from the artwork video, the only thing i saw that resembled one could easily just be regular lightning storms from the planet's weather (seen @ 1:37)

also i see a fallen carrier and a terran helicopter in the artwork

On May 19 2007 19:02 MagIc.QQ wrote:
Either way it loooks fucking hot and i am stoked, also those terran is going to need something else to fight protoss. It used to be Vultures>Zealots>Tanks>goons>zealots. Goons are now almost INVULNERABLE to tanks.

On May 19 2007 19:02 Jyvblamo wrote:


Are you talking about when the zerglings attack the cannons? Because it reaaaally looked like psionic storm being cast.

On May 19 2007 19:08 Jyvblamo wrote:
The final battle in the gameplay demonstration uses unit spawning triggers, as you can see marines popping out of nowhere during some of it.

On May 19 2007 19:02 Jyvblamo wrote:


Are you talking about when the zerglings attack the cannons? Because it reaaaally looked like psionic storm being cast.

On May 19 2007 19:00 Raist wrote:
good point, reavers didnt catch that

but this psi storm ppl are talking about from the artwork video, the only thing i saw that resembled one could easily just be regular lightning storms from the planet's weather (seen @ 1:37)

also i see a fallen carrier and a terran helicopter in the artwork

On May 19 2007 20:15 Equinox_kr wrote:
But holy Jesus this game is going to make me completely think twice about trying to incorporate SC1 strategies into SC2 O_O

On May 19 2007 18:50 terranmetal wrote:
If you check out the artwork video, and look at 00:45 with the picture of the stalker, you can see reavers along side it. This probably means reavers will be in the game.

Actually not the stalker, I mean the colosus. I also think I see a dragoon in the picture.

On May 19 2007 20:15 Equinox_kr wrote:
But holy Jesus this game is going to make me completely think twice about trying to incorporate SC1 strategies into SC2 O_O

On May 20 2007 01:03 king_zork wrote:
C:\Documents and Settings\Owner\My Documents\My Pictures\a.JPG

On May 20 2007 04:16 Silent_Marine wrote:
I dont know if this already posted :

On May 19 2007 16:39 LastRomantic wrote:
I think "create" just basically means rally points of warp gates are instant teleport, instead of walk/fly over.

Not sure though.

On May 20 2007 07:03 LastWish wrote:
Anyone noticed (probably in the video reapers vs immortals) where they selected 10++ units...
They appeared in a 8x2 grid so I think now you will be able to select at least 16 units at once.

On May 19 2007 20:59 XG3 wrote:
http://www.starcraft2.com/screenshot.xml?10

Colossuses (Colossi?) are so tall that they are able to be hit by both ground and anti air units/buildings.

On May 20 2007 01:16 G.s)NarutO wrote:
Does the probe still does meow?-_-
I fucking want Terran/Zerg units @ Starcraft2.com can't wait;

On May 19 2007 23:07 MadNeSs wrote:
When zealots charge it looks like warr charging in wow all they need is the sound. Like they automatically start charging as soon as they're in range.

On May 19 2007 19:38 Kacas wrote:


now introducing the mothership
the ultra mega blaster gosu unit in sc2..

oops..a bc just killed it...

imagine that....
he himself said that the stats of the units were changed..

On May 20 2007 07:22 OMFGlearntoplay wrote:


New micro (as if I've played the game, but it'd be fun): when zealots are running in a line for a group of whatever (tanks), the ones in back are selected to attack the zealot in front so they charge up... you cancel the attack at the last second and they run past. Now do the same thing for the zealots that are now in back. by the time you get to the tanks you can charge again.

On May 20 2007 07:56 I-Emerge wrote:
Does anyone notice how the distracted us with fighting and units from macro related issues? I mwan in terms of the demos and pictures we have little idea of the maro details.

On May 20 2007 07:56 Manit0u wrote:


I bet there's cooldown on it.

On May 20 2007 10:03 Jyvblamo wrote:
http://www.starcraft2.com/screenshot.xml?10

I see a Terran Turret shooting a ground unit.
This reminds me of the Starcraft boxart where the wraiths are using their missiles vs archons.

On May 19 2007 20:59 XG3 wrote:
http://www.starcraft2.com/screenshot.xml?10

Colossuses (Colossi?) are so tall that they are able to be hit by both ground and anti air units/buildings.

On May 21 2007 14:07 Jyvblamo wrote:
Units on high-ground seem to get a noticeable increase in the range of their attacks. This can be observed in the gameplay trailer when the Colossus scales a cliff to escape from the banelings, and turns around to fire its beam at the retreating banelings. The range of its laser is greatly increased.

On May 21 2007 14:44 Blacklizard wrote:
The mothership has cooldown (as well as mana) requirements on its spells. For this beast, ok. But I surely hope we don't have that on High Templar, Defilers, or Sci Vessels (or their replacements).

On May 21 2007 15:18 Excalibur_Z wrote:


Many spells already have a cooldown, just without visible indicators. Try to cast two Psi Storms back to back with the same Templar - you can't. There's a brief cooldown period. Same with Irradiate.

On May 21 2007 16:57 BoY wrote:
I am guessing someone already mentionned that but did not read it anywhere

What about the "Nuclear detected" small red laser point that we have in SC1 ? At the very end of the gameplay video, it becomes that big red mark !

I hope this will change ... even though nuke is not really used, we have all experience the "where the fuck am i getting nuked" feeling scrolling everywhere to catch a tiny red point ....

To me it bring good memories ... as it stands now, nuke will be even less effective T.T

On May 19 2007 21:06 {CC}StealthBlue wrote:
Shields?

On May 21 2007 15:18 Excalibur_Z wrote:


Many spells already have a cooldown, just without visible indicators. Try to cast two Psi Storms back to back with the same Templar - you can't. There's a brief cooldown period. Same with Irradiate.

On May 22 2007 20:00 Blacklizard wrote:
I haven't caught up with all the threads, so this too may have been mentioned... but flying Command Centers may be able to hold previously produced SCVs. Or it's just a scripted event. But look at the Blizzard version of the gameplay video at 1:01 and you see the 4 SCVs seem to pop out of the CC after it lands.

Also notice right after that for how dropships work. It looks like one marine gets out right Before the dropship lands. Dropship/Tank micro possibilities?

On May 22 2007 20:00 Blacklizard wrote:
I haven't caught up with all the threads, so this too may have been mentioned... but flying Command Centers may be able to hold previously produced SCVs. Or it's just a scripted event. But look at the Blizzard version of the gameplay video at 1:01 and you see the 4 SCVs seem to pop out of the CC after it lands.

Also notice right after that for how dropships work. It looks like one marine gets out right Before the dropship lands. Dropship/Tank micro possibilities?

On May 23 2007 01:54 lamarine wrote:


4 scvs popped out of dropship
how dropship works: it can drop units while flying without actually landing.... but when it's stopped it lands... it's like in SC1 - when you stopped and then trying to fly away u don't fly at the one speed at once - ur dropship accelerates... same here but with animation of dropship landing...

On May 20 2007 07:24 FrozenArbiter wrote:

Yeah, but even if they wouldn't, it appeared as if 3 yamato's would take it down (after 2 yamatos - I think - it was in the red).

On May 23 2007 04:08 lololol wrote:


It had a total of 1200 hp and shields and yamato still dealt 260 damage, it got in the red, because it was damaged a lot before that, so at full hp/shields it would need 5 Yamato hits, which is not very low

On May 22 2007 20:00 Blacklizard wrote:
I haven't caught up with all the threads, so this too may have been mentioned... but flying Command Centers may be able to hold previously produced SCVs. Or it's just a scripted event. But look at the Blizzard version of the gameplay video at 1:01 and you see the 4 SCVs seem to pop out of the CC after it lands.

Also notice right after that for how dropships work. It looks like one marine gets out right Before the dropship lands. Dropship/Tank micro possibilities?

On May 23 2007 06:49 Blacklizard wrote:
--if each 'petal' of the warp ray indicates an up in attack dmg then presumably the warp ray dmg can be increased up to 6x!--

I started to think the same thing, but if you look close there are only 3 petals that are "longer and thinner", and I'm pretty sure those are the ones that produce the multiple ray indicators.

On May 23 2007 07:16 shadowenergy wrote:
was watching the artwork clip and noticed



could this possibly be a crashed protoss carrier?
I'm just hoping carriers are still in the game .

On May 23 2007 09:39 Ziel wrote:
In the colussus concept art + reavers on the ground (and two goons well hidden), there's carriers in the sky so theyre very likely in

On May 23 2007 02:39 useless wrote:


The guy isnt stupid. Have YOU even seen the gameplay video? Four SCVs appeared together right after the CC landed.

On May 19 2007 16:54 useless wrote:
Im pretty sure Raist is on target about the 'create', although LR does bring up another aspect of it. The units need to be produced already, and can probably be set to rally at a location like in SC, or wait in the Gateway to be teleported into battle via the prisms.

Small detail probably mentioned already: riot shields and bayonets on the Marines. Makes sense that they have something to counter Zerglings and Zealots. Not sure if they actually have a purpose.

On May 25 2007 10:47 Ziel wrote:
Lol the phoenix's overload icon is the same one as medic's blind icon! SC1 Easter Egg :D

[B]
There's another one of the critter(?) firing some sort beam at the minerals during the first few seconds. It stands alone firing at the ground(?) above the terran base flying in.

On May 25 2007 10:47 Ziel wrote:
Lol the phoenix's overload icon is the same one as medic's blind icon! SC1 Easter Egg :D

On May 26 2007 15:27 Liquid_Turbo wrote:
Anyone see that "iPistol" ad just before the phoenix start attacking the BCs? haha.


Also the "SuperNova Men's Club" with the dancing hologram at 3:10. Sexual refernce to Ghost's Nova?

Check how out the marine at the bottom of the screen dies to the zealot at 18:26... awesome!!!!!

On May 27 2007 04:32 GroT wrote:
one thing that bothered me was the sound tanks make when they fire... its too pussy


it was sooo strong in sc1 remember the first time u heard it u were like wtf is this ... strong


edit: absolutely love everything else though

On May 27 2007 08:09 Manit0u wrote:
Did you notice that when units die the small boxes in the bottom panel don't change their place any more?

On May 27 2007 03:46 BluzMan wrote:
On the screenshots with the zergling horde and terrans defending there we can see something weird near the barracks on the top of the screen. It's either a mechanical unit that wasn't in SC or barracks now can have add-ons.

On May 19 2007 16:53 Raist wrote:
ohhhhh WHOAAAA that makes so much more sense!
holy cow...........wowowowowow that's insanely awesome

btw did anyone notice this from the SC2 Wiki?

where did they get this from? i saw the entire WWI Day 1 announcement video on the tracker and didnt hear about this at all, nor do i see this on the starcraft2.com page

On May 27 2007 08:09 Manit0u wrote:
Did you notice that when units die the small boxes in the bottom panel don't change their place any more?

On June 16 2007 00:37 lamarine wrote:
1) SCVs with one hand carry minerals/gas and with other hand build structures
2) about new protoss warp-in technology : it seems that in WWI demo they have quickened warp-in time, cause zealots warped-in in 2 seconds, but in PCGamer's video in last battle u can see somebody warping-in for a really long time (10 sec min)... so as i see it : in SC1 zealot is building 10 seconds, in SC2 it's 5 sec gateway cooldown + 5 sec for warping-in....

On May 29 2007 10:52 lololol wrote:


It would be easier to select a specific unit that way and not have one die and screw up your selection ;P

On June 16 2007 00:37 lamarine wrote:
...
2) about new protoss warp-in technology : it seems that in WWI demo they have quickened warp-in time, cause zealots warped-in in 2 seconds, but in PCGamer's video in last battle u can see somebody warping-in for a really long time (10 sec min)... so as i see it : in SC1 zealot is building 10 seconds, in SC2 it's 5 sec gateway cooldown + 5 sec for warping-in....

On June 16 2007 05:11 lololol wrote:
You fail to see why it's good to spawn your units very fast and in the apropriate place? Why would people proxy buildings, if this wasn't if such a thing is not a big deal? Why the hell people use recall at all if it even can't teleport your whole army and doing so is not a big deal? And you get that almost for free... lol
Not to mention if you want to block a choke your units will still block it.

there is a minimap ping when the unit finishes warping, while resources are taken when warping is started, also units at the start of a warp in have low hp/shield and build it up as a building does in sc1

I don't understand how the gradually increasing hp/shield and when you pay for the unit leads you to think the animation is going to be slowed down. Maybe I'm missing something, please elaborate a bit.

I see your point of the ping being useless in this situation, but I find it more likely it's a remnant from the other "normal" production buildings, where it is very useful.

On June 15 2007 23:35 Doctorasul wrote:
The robot Luke trains with in episode IV is a rotating sphere with white spots. If that is a reference, than any generic sphere ever made in a game is a reference to the robot trainer.

Other than the roundness of the top part, where's the similarity to R2D2?

And probes carry vespene gas in cubes in bw aswell. Or is it also a reference to transformers?

On June 16 2007 11:52 FrozenArbiter wrote:
When they select the zealot, in the left corner next to the unit mesh and stats there's some kind of icon (something to do with charge? was some kind of flashing thing in that area when the zealot charged).

The Immortal has 2 green ones in the same place (special shield?)

On June 17 2007 01:23 Doctorasul wrote:
Of course the game is riddled with references, just not the phase cannon If the transformers cartoon was aired before SC then you're right.

On June 16 2007 09:17 Blacklizard wrote:


Riiiight. StarCraft is so not influenced or pays homage to old sci fi movies. And it really doesn't have any other star wars references enough to make you pay attention to other star wars references or influences. As a matter of fact, STAR Wars wasn't an influence to STARcraft at all. Star Wars hasn't influenced anything else in existence, right? That's a laugh.

A spherical, floating, metallic, robotic thingie with circular upon circular openings that SHOOT at you doesn't remind me of the seeker droid at all. Nope, not at all.

R2-D2 reference... the blue stripe that varies in width? There are two on R2-D2's front panel.

Even the way the phase cannon (and other protoss buildings) have the little blue lines that trace around everything when they warp in remind me of the ion cannon blasts on the ships in star wars.

No, the phase cannon is not a complete rip, like the immortal, but it's close enough to be a very possible reference to star wars for a mention in a fun thread about stuff you can glean from the videos. Come on, work with me here.

StarCraft:
Probes (robots) carrying cubical brightly colored items made up of the actual resources (energy) themselves that have been fought over by opposing sides.

Old Transformers cartoon:
Transformers (robots) carrying cubical brightly colored items made up of the actual resources (energy) themselves that have been fought over by opposing sides.

Yeah, no similarity once again. I just can't see it. I give. =[

On June 17 2007 14:02 havok wrote:


Please do give up.

Who cares if something was influenced by something else? What the hell do you think artists do? Becoming an artist and finding your own style is all about influences from other things or people. Architecture is the same way. Music. Movies. Tv. Every aspect of life is constantly 'borrowing' so to speak from something that's happened or existed before. That's life. If you're going to throw a hissy fit over a PC game having minute, vague similarities that no one caught on to except .0001% of the population playing Starcraft, you're in for a whiny, complaintative life.

On June 17 2007 16:49 T-P-S wrote:

Marines can be cut in half either vertically or horizontally at the waist as two of their death animations

On June 17 2007 16:49 T-P-S wrote:
In a screenshot on the official site, an immortal is displayed with 93/100 shields after being hit with a single sieged round. If tank damage is being left at 70, that would suggest that the hardened shields reduce heavy damage to 10% of normal

The minimap displays the actual shape of buildings from above, instead of as a large square

Marines can be cut in half either vertically or horizontally at the waist as two of their death animations

It appears that each race now has unique control and vespene icons at the top of the screen

Zerglings have at least two bounding animations for when they move along, a short hop and a slightly longer glide with the wings buzzing

Edit: typo

On June 17 2007 16:49 T-P-S wrote:
In a screenshot on the official site, an immortal is displayed with 93/100 shields after being hit with a single sieged round. If tank damage is being left at 70, that would suggest that the hardened shields reduce heavy damage to 10% of normal

The minimap displays the actual shape of buildings from above, instead of as a large square

Marines can be cut in half either vertically or horizontally at the waist as two of their death animations

It appears that each race now has unique control and vespene icons at the top of the screen

Zerglings have at least two bounding animations for when they move along, a short hop and a slightly longer glide with the wings buzzing

Edit: typo

On June 18 2007 10:52 Konni wrote:
What is this? (wait for image to load)