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Doctorasul
Profile Blog Joined October 2004
Romania1145 Posts
May 18 2007 16:35 GMT
#301
The ingame footage looks very good. The units move fast and die fast but most importantly it looks like there are HARD COUNTERS and UNIQUE abilities and characteristics, not the same with varying values.

Lots of mineral patches are still there, which means there's a high chance of flexible economics and a large number of workers to play around with. The units don't seem to be stuck in the frontline, but harrass and backdoor attacks look really favored. And the atmosphere is serious and intense.

This is all that we could have hoped for.
"I believe in Spinoza's god who reveals himself in the harmony of all that exists, but not in a god who concerns himself with the fate and actions of human beings." - Albert Einstein
evanthebouncy!
Profile Blog Joined June 2006
United States12796 Posts
May 18 2007 16:36 GMT
#302
THEGRIZZ you are so awesome <3

Collosus looks uninspiring, it's basically a long ranged archon, if you look at zlot+collosus vs lings ling die about same rate as if they're fighting zlot/archon army.

Phoenix looks uninspiring too, beside the crappy shape design, it's just a valkarie which will hit sprite bug haha...


Lol blizz guy tried to micro his blinky dudes, <3
Life is run, it is dance, it is fast, passionate and BAM!, you dance and sing and booze while you can for now is the time and time is mine. Smile and laugh when still can for now is the time and soon you die!
Lycaeus
Profile Blog Joined February 2006
United States1420 Posts
May 18 2007 16:36 GMT
#303
On May 19 2007 01:28 wanderer wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 19 2007 01:23 Lycaeus wrote:
On May 19 2007 01:19 evanthebouncy~ wrote:
On May 19 2007 01:15 Lycaeus wrote:
pvt = ez, push with immortals, attack with units afterwards

.... that's about as good as "carrier = instawin!"


your point being?!


his point is that it takes a lot of time to make a carrier, and even though carriers are instawins you hardly ever make the time or money to afford more than maybe one and still win the game (especially in 1v1 games).

if you say these obviously expensive immortal units are powerful and you can push them and then use units afterwards, you'll have to take a lot of time to save up for these expensive immortal units — and chances are they'll be like carriers in that you need to wait a while in order to get them available and much less make enough to do this strategy.



edit -- then again thost terran reapers really tore those fuckers up in the vid that mr.grizz posted earlier (outstanding posts, sir)


... i wasn't really that serious, but good rational~
evanthebouncy!
Profile Blog Joined June 2006
United States12796 Posts
Last Edited: 2007-05-18 16:37:36
May 18 2007 16:36 GMT
#304
On May 19 2007 01:35 Doctorasul wrote:
The ingame footage looks very good. The units move fast and die fast but most importantly it looks like there are HARD COUNTERS and UNIQUE abilities and characteristics, not the same with varying values.

Lots of mineral patches are still there, which means there's a high chance of flexible economics and a large number of workers to play around with. The units don't seem to be stuck in the frontline, but harrass and backdoor attacks look really favored. And the atmosphere is serious and intense.

This is all that we could have hoped for.


Basically what I tried to say but unable to articulate. Well put sir!
Unique was the word I was looking for. Hard counter ZOMG yeah! :D
Life is run, it is dance, it is fast, passionate and BAM!, you dance and sing and booze while you can for now is the time and time is mine. Smile and laugh when still can for now is the time and soon you die!
Lycaeus
Profile Blog Joined February 2006
United States1420 Posts
May 18 2007 16:39 GMT
#305
On May 19 2007 01:36 evanthebouncy~ wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 19 2007 01:35 Doctorasul wrote:
The ingame footage looks very good. The units move fast and die fast but most importantly it looks like there are HARD COUNTERS and UNIQUE abilities and characteristics, not the same with varying values.

Lots of mineral patches are still there, which means there's a high chance of flexible economics and a large number of workers to play around with. The units don't seem to be stuck in the frontline, but harrass and backdoor attacks look really favored. And the atmosphere is serious and intense.

This is all that we could have hoped for.


Basically what I tried to say but unable to articulate. Well put sir!
Unique was the word I was looking for. Hard counter ZOMG yeah! :D


i wonder if the supply max is 200? in some pictures it shows like 167 psi and such, maybe its just that in the beta.
XG3
Profile Joined December 2002
United States544 Posts
May 18 2007 16:39 GMT
#306
http://www.starcraft2.com
evanthebouncy!
Profile Blog Joined June 2006
United States12796 Posts
May 18 2007 16:39 GMT
#307
And in retrospect BW1's graphic isn't too great when you zoomed in
[image loading]

I guess it goes the same to every RTS games, things nvr look too awesome in close up view.
Life is run, it is dance, it is fast, passionate and BAM!, you dance and sing and booze while you can for now is the time and time is mine. Smile and laugh when still can for now is the time and soon you die!
evanthebouncy!
Profile Blog Joined June 2006
United States12796 Posts
May 18 2007 16:41 GMT
#308
On May 19 2007 01:39 Lycaeus wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 19 2007 01:36 evanthebouncy~ wrote:
On May 19 2007 01:35 Doctorasul wrote:
The ingame footage looks very good. The units move fast and die fast but most importantly it looks like there are HARD COUNTERS and UNIQUE abilities and characteristics, not the same with varying values.

Lots of mineral patches are still there, which means there's a high chance of flexible economics and a large number of workers to play around with. The units don't seem to be stuck in the frontline, but harrass and backdoor attacks look really favored. And the atmosphere is serious and intense.

This is all that we could have hoped for.


Basically what I tried to say but unable to articulate. Well put sir!
Unique was the word I was looking for. Hard counter ZOMG yeah! :D


i wonder if the supply max is 200? in some pictures it shows like 167 psi and such, maybe its just that in the beta.


It'll be interesting if the population is dependent on the land you own haha :_)

HOLY SHIT starcraft2.com !!!

FUCKING BRILLIANT NICE FIND!

GOD I'M SO EXCITED I WONT BE ABLE TO SLEEP
Life is run, it is dance, it is fast, passionate and BAM!, you dance and sing and booze while you can for now is the time and time is mine. Smile and laugh when still can for now is the time and soon you die!
evanthebouncy!
Profile Blog Joined June 2006
United States12796 Posts
May 18 2007 16:44 GMT
#309
SWEET it says on their website:

Fast-paced, hard-hitting, tightly balanced competitive real-time strategy gameplay that recaptures and improves on the magic of the original game

^That means good o' Broodwar!

Vibrant new 3D-graphics engine with support for dazzling visual effects and massive unit and army sizes

^That means MACRO!


# Full multiplayer support, with new competitive features and matchmaking utilities available through Battle.net
# Full map-making and scripting tools to give players incredible freedom in customizing and personalizing their gameplay experience

^ THAT means ORGASM!
Life is run, it is dance, it is fast, passionate and BAM!, you dance and sing and booze while you can for now is the time and time is mine. Smile and laugh when still can for now is the time and soon you die!
Heen
Profile Blog Joined November 2003
Korea (South)2178 Posts
May 18 2007 16:46 GMT
#310
Can we please ban idiots who are theorycrafting and whining about imbalance on a game that hasn't even reached the closed-beta stage?

To stay on topic, I am very excited and the game looks pretty damn good as it is (the visuals), so I can hardly imagine what the final product would look like.

I don't see how anyone can complain about new games having better graphics. Usually, as time goes by, people get better computers. If it doesn't run smoothly on your computer, stop being a cheapass and get a new computer. It's a RTS for god's sake. It won't be insanely high req.

Blizzard always makes significant improvements to interface, multiplayer system and gameplay with each passing game. Remember how they made a working ladder in WC3 after BW? Not to mention the tournament system. Although I have to say it really sucked that they forgot (?) to include replay viewing on battle.net for WC3.
('''(G_G/'''')
DarkYoDA
Profile Blog Joined September 2005
United States1347 Posts
May 18 2007 16:47 GMT
#311
This really brightened up my day..
It's a comedy to claim thy superiority when it's anothers' inferiority which elevated thy mediocrity
lOstHeaven
Profile Blog Joined March 2007
Canada212 Posts
May 18 2007 16:52 GMT
#312
we can't hide the nucleair red spot.....nnooooooo its so sad even though we don't use it often
Lost in Heaven
Doctorasul
Profile Blog Joined October 2004
Romania1145 Posts
May 18 2007 16:59 GMT
#313
Let's see the mothership video on youtube pls!
"I believe in Spinoza's god who reveals himself in the harmony of all that exists, but not in a god who concerns himself with the fate and actions of human beings." - Albert Einstein
evanthebouncy!
Profile Blog Joined June 2006
United States12796 Posts
May 18 2007 17:01 GMT
#314
Something nice about the website:

1. Unit sound! You click zlot it goes "MY LIFE FOR AIUR!" :D

2. Before the loss of Aiur, veteran protoss warriors who had been crippled in battle could volunteer to continue their service by being transplanted into dragoon exoskeletons. Now, the dragoons of the past are all but gone. The sacred shrine that was dedicated to the creation of the dragoons was infested by the zerg and lost along with the protoss homeworld itself. They stand on the front lines of the final war, sacrificing themselves to buy their race a few more days or hours. Soon none will remain.

So NO more dragoons! They're replaced by Immortals... hopefully they have a better AI haha...
So NO more dragoons afterbreed in SC3 if they happen to make it.

3. However, the overthrow of Aiur has proven that guile alone cannot defeat a foe as relentless as the zerg. Inspired by the ancient and honored dragoon walkers the dark templar have begun to build war machines of their own. The stalker is a machine controlled by the shadow-essence of a dark templar warrior, willingly fused into its metal body to protect his people.

Okay so DT are still there but there's these DT dragoons... I think DTgoon w/ speedlot will trash siege tank, teleport in for the rape. These things looks like they have great micro potentials, could probably do insane manuvers if you got the brain to think about them.

4. For thousands of years the Protoss have studied the nature of time and space. Through their painstaking studies and experiments protoss researchers have uncovered many of the secrets of the universe. Using psionic manufacturing processes, the protoss have learned how to create a robotic mind whose programming is built into the molecules of an advanced crystal lattice. This "crystal computer" is able to manipulate matter and energy with a precision no ordinary organic mind could comprehend.

So these beauties are the new arbitor, probably gonna get them alot earlier relatively than the current arbiter, cuz the tech tree is in the robo... Great potentials, pylon power could mean maybe Protoss can even caontain a zerg with impromptu teleport and wraping in 10 cannons around it. It is by far, personally, the best designed unit artistic wise.

5. Did you guys notice the voice act are different? They took WC3 voiceactors so it seems... man I miss the old voices though T_T

6. Gateways now have this uber wrapgate upgrade, so once you've made a gateway a wrapgate, you can wrap units(I assume the untis making in the wrapgate) and create it in ANY part of your pylon matrix.
Website says it's good to use the phaser to make a temporary pylon matrix and use wrapgate to rally into some remote spot, sounds pretty sweet.

7. Marine statue, anyone fancy? 280 bucks haha https://us.blizzard.com/sc2collectible/starcraft2/menu.html
Life is run, it is dance, it is fast, passionate and BAM!, you dance and sing and booze while you can for now is the time and time is mine. Smile and laugh when still can for now is the time and soon you die!
Telemako
Profile Blog Joined September 2002
Spain1636 Posts
May 18 2007 17:02 GMT
#315
LE GEN DA RY!
I've been around since it all started, and it feels good
wanderer
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
United States641 Posts
May 18 2007 17:03 GMT
#316
Hey blizzard workers in case you're reading this thread to view reactions to the presentation of the game...

my email is michael.lee0@gmail.com and if you're looking for beta testers, i would be more than happy and beyond honored to seriously help! you can completely trust me with keeping any information secret as well — i'm somewhat known for that kind of thing socially.
Fuck you, I have a degree in mathematics and I speak 12 languages. (I called the World Cup final in 2008 btw)
Lycaeus
Profile Blog Joined February 2006
United States1420 Posts
May 18 2007 17:04 GMT
#317
On May 19 2007 02:03 wanderer wrote:
Hey blizzard workers in case you're reading this thread to view reactions to the presentation of the game...

my email is michael.lee0@gmail.com and if you're looking for beta testers, i would be more than happy and beyond honored to seriously help! you can completely trust me with keeping any information secret as well — i'm somewhat known for that kind of thing socially.


lol! You GEEK!
wanderer
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
United States641 Posts
May 18 2007 17:09 GMT
#318
hey man stfu im trying to get in on this
Fuck you, I have a degree in mathematics and I speak 12 languages. (I called the World Cup final in 2008 btw)
Lycaeus
Profile Blog Joined February 2006
United States1420 Posts
Last Edited: 2007-05-18 17:10:38
May 18 2007 17:10 GMT
#319
On May 19 2007 02:09 wanderer wrote:
hey man stfu im trying to get in on this


you're just making it funnier
evanthebouncy!
Profile Blog Joined June 2006
United States12796 Posts
May 18 2007 17:11 GMT
#320
AAAAAAAANd good news!

http://www.starcraft2.com/faq.xml

It says:
Will we still be able to play the original StarCraft on Battle.net after StarCraft II is released?

Yes, you will.
Life is run, it is dance, it is fast, passionate and BAM!, you dance and sing and booze while you can for now is the time and time is mine. Smile and laugh when still can for now is the time and soon you die!
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