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pvsnp
7676 Posts
On April 21 2018 21:06 Olli wrote: Hellbats suiciding into probe lines would just be dumb. It would have to be an upgrade. The current investment to do exactly that is a techlab upgrade, and it's enough to make that strategy extinct. Maybe a cheap armory upgrade then? | ||
Olli
Austria24417 Posts
Point is that it shouldn't just be free in the early game. | ||
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pvsnp
7676 Posts
On April 22 2018 01:17 Olli wrote: Armory is what I was thinking too. You'd at least have to make a significant investment to suicide your hellbats into probe lines. Or even at ebay, would need testing. Point is that it shouldn't just be free in the early game. Sounds fair to me. Even if Hellbat drops became standard, they're still a step up from the old WM drop every game. | ||
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SCHWARZENEGGER
206 Posts
On April 21 2018 18:17 pvsnp wrote: Thing is, Hellbats are always on a timer since sooner or later Terran absolutely must make a bio transition against Protoss. The longer they're delayed (by upgrades), the less effective they will be. Also, early blueflame would almost certainly lead to more Hellbat allins against Zerg. should be easy for zerg to hold an allin when terran need to build: armory, 2nd factory and blueflame. vs standard hellbat timing zergs already can build roaches, it will be only worse for terran to wait for blueflame even if it will finish quicker than now since it only works vs light. | ||
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Durnuu
13319 Posts
On April 22 2018 02:10 SCHWARZENEGGER wrote: should be easy for zerg to hold an allin when terran need to build: armory, 2nd factory and blueflame. Should be easy for terran to hold an allin when protoss needs to build : twilight council, 8 gates, robotics facility. | ||
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SCHWARZENEGGER
206 Posts
On April 22 2018 02:15 Durnuu wrote: Should be easy for terran to hold an allin when protoss needs to build : twilight council, 8 gates, robotics facility. adepts? yes it's easy if scouted, same for zerg vs hellbats. | ||
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pvsnp
7676 Posts
On April 22 2018 02:17 SCHWARZENEGGER wrote: adepts? yes it's easy if scouted, same for zerg vs hellbats. Didn't Inno say you can't stop 8gate even when you know it's coming? He was probably just salty about losing to Classic though. | ||
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SCHWARZENEGGER
206 Posts
On April 22 2018 02:58 pvsnp wrote: Didn't Inno say you can't stop 8gate even when you know it's coming? He was probably just salty about losing to Classic though. can't stop or hard to stop with certain builds, but 3rax stim+shields both done at 5;00 is kinda hard countering this, 1-1-1 with viking to kill prism can do it too. | ||
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