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New Mountains to Climb: soO's 2018 Journey Begins - Page 2

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Mun_Su
Profile Joined December 2012
France2063 Posts
January 15 2018 20:47 GMT
#21
On January 16 2018 05:33 Mizenhauer wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 16 2018 05:13 pvsnp wrote:
I'm not a soO fan and can't say I was sad to watch him lose in 2014. But seeing it happen all over again in 2017 was kind of painful, even for a detached observer.

I may not be a fan, but I will still cheer for him to break his curse and finally lift a GSL trophy. Nobody with a heart could do any less. Though until that happens, I reserve the right to meme about his second places.

Great writing as usual, Mizenhauer. Though I gotta say, the frequency of these soO articles is a bit.....blatant.


I have written a fair number of articles about soO, but I think you'd be shocked to know the other player I've written about the most. Note: I'll be excluding previews from GSL Season 1 because that system was scrapped and the topic was forced rather than chosen.

By my count, I wrote four articles about soO in 2017 (VSL Preview/Eo Yun Soo/BlizzCon/Weekly Focus). Two others were written as GSL final previews by other people. I wrote three articles about Inno during the same time period (VSL Preview/GSL S3 Preview/Weekly Focus). Two more articles were written for BlizzCon and SSL Season 1 by other writers. There was just an Inno/Maru article and now a soO article. So the two are pretty even on how frequently they've been covered in my tenure. It's not my fault soO's story, and by extension the articles about him, are more interesting and stick out so much more than other players in the scene like INnoVation.



In that case these articles, while good to read, feel a little bit redundant. Articles about INno (or better, his interviews) are by far the best

Also the INno / Maru article was just a way for you to put some shine on a missing player while putting some salt on Innovation.
INno <3 - TY - Maru - Taeja - Rain <3 - Classic <3 - Stephano <3 - soO <3 - Soulkey - Dark - SERRAL =O / END REGION LOCK
pvsnp
Profile Joined January 2017
7676 Posts
Last Edited: 2018-01-15 20:58:23
January 15 2018 20:55 GMT
#22
On January 16 2018 05:33 Mizenhauer wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 16 2018 05:13 pvsnp wrote:
I'm not a soO fan and can't say I was sad to watch him lose in 2014. But seeing it happen all over again in 2017 was kind of painful, even for a detached observer.

I may not be a fan, but I will still cheer for him to break his curse and finally lift a GSL trophy. Nobody with a heart could do any less. Though until that happens, I reserve the right to meme about his second places.

Great writing as usual, Mizenhauer. Though I gotta say, the frequency of these soO articles is a bit.....blatant.


I have written a fair number of articles about soO, but I think you'd be shocked to know the other player I've written about the most. Note: I'll be excluding previews from GSL Season 1 because that system was scrapped and the topic was forced rather than chosen.

By my count, I wrote four articles about soO in 2017 (VSL Preview/Eo Yun Soo/BlizzCon/Weekly Focus). Two others were written as GSL final previews by other people. I wrote three articles about Inno during the same time period (VSL Preview/GSL S3 Preview/Weekly Focus). Two more articles were written for BlizzCon and SSL Season 1 by other writers. There was just an Inno/Maru article and now a soO article. So the two are pretty even on how frequently they've been covered in my tenure. It's not my fault soO's story, and by extension the articles about him, are more interesting and stick out so much more than other players in the scene like INnoVation.

That's not what I meant. Since finals previews are, well, finals previews, you obviously don't control who the subject is. I was referring instead to the articles that focus on particular players, like the one about soO, or Dear, or Classic, or Rogue.

IIRC this is the third such article about soO (Eo Yun Soo, Sisyphus, and now this), whereas everyone else has only had one at most.
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Mizenhauer
Profile Blog Joined February 2015
United States1916 Posts
Last Edited: 2018-01-15 21:00:25
January 15 2018 20:58 GMT
#23
On January 16 2018 05:55 pvsnp wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 16 2018 05:33 Mizenhauer wrote:
On January 16 2018 05:13 pvsnp wrote:
I'm not a soO fan and can't say I was sad to watch him lose in 2014. But seeing it happen all over again in 2017 was kind of painful, even for a detached observer.

I may not be a fan, but I will still cheer for him to break his curse and finally lift a GSL trophy. Nobody with a heart could do any less. Though until that happens, I reserve the right to meme about his second places.

Great writing as usual, Mizenhauer. Though I gotta say, the frequency of these soO articles is a bit.....blatant.


I have written a fair number of articles about soO, but I think you'd be shocked to know the other player I've written about the most. Note: I'll be excluding previews from GSL Season 1 because that system was scrapped and the topic was forced rather than chosen.

By my count, I wrote four articles about soO in 2017 (VSL Preview/Eo Yun Soo/BlizzCon/Weekly Focus). Two others were written as GSL final previews by other people. I wrote three articles about Inno during the same time period (VSL Preview/GSL S3 Preview/Weekly Focus). Two more articles were written for BlizzCon and SSL Season 1 by other writers. There was just an Inno/Maru article and now a soO article. So the two are pretty even on how frequently they've been covered in my tenure. It's not my fault soO's story, and by extension the articles about him, are more interesting and stick out so much more than other players in the scene like INnoVation.

That's not what I meant. Since finals previews are, well, finals previews, you obviously don't control who the subject is. I was referring instead to the articles that focus on particular players, like the one about soO, or Dear, or Classic, or Rogue.

IIRC this is the third such article about soO (Eo Yun soO, Sisyphus, and now this), whereas everyone else has only had one at most.


soO agrees to work with us and other pros haven't. Tweet at your favorite player and ask them to do the same and you might get the article you so desire.

If stuff like this is something people want to talk about, I can write a blog post explaining why I write what I write, but I'm not responding in this thread anymore because I think it distracts from the piece.
┗|∵|┓Second Place in LB 28, Third Place in LB 29 and Destined to Be a Kong
pvsnp
Profile Joined January 2017
7676 Posts
Last Edited: 2018-01-15 20:59:03
January 15 2018 20:58 GMT
#24
On January 16 2018 05:58 Mizenhauer wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 16 2018 05:55 pvsnp wrote:
On January 16 2018 05:33 Mizenhauer wrote:
On January 16 2018 05:13 pvsnp wrote:
I'm not a soO fan and can't say I was sad to watch him lose in 2014. But seeing it happen all over again in 2017 was kind of painful, even for a detached observer.

I may not be a fan, but I will still cheer for him to break his curse and finally lift a GSL trophy. Nobody with a heart could do any less. Though until that happens, I reserve the right to meme about his second places.

Great writing as usual, Mizenhauer. Though I gotta say, the frequency of these soO articles is a bit.....blatant.


I have written a fair number of articles about soO, but I think you'd be shocked to know the other player I've written about the most. Note: I'll be excluding previews from GSL Season 1 because that system was scrapped and the topic was forced rather than chosen.

By my count, I wrote four articles about soO in 2017 (VSL Preview/Eo Yun Soo/BlizzCon/Weekly Focus). Two others were written as GSL final previews by other people. I wrote three articles about Inno during the same time period (VSL Preview/GSL S3 Preview/Weekly Focus). Two more articles were written for BlizzCon and SSL Season 1 by other writers. There was just an Inno/Maru article and now a soO article. So the two are pretty even on how frequently they've been covered in my tenure. It's not my fault soO's story, and by extension the articles about him, are more interesting and stick out so much more than other players in the scene like INnoVation.

That's not what I meant. Since finals previews are, well, finals previews, you obviously don't control who the subject is. I was referring instead to the articles that focus on particular players, like the one about soO, or Dear, or Classic, or Rogue.

IIRC this is the third such article about soO (Eo Yun soO, Sisyphus, and now this), whereas everyone else has only had one at most.


soO agrees to work with us and other pros haven't. Tweet at your favorite player and ask them to do the same and you might get the article you so desire.

It wasn't criticism. You're free to write whatever you please, obviously, and I appreciate everything you put out. It was just an observation that you like writing about your favorite player (shocker, I know).

Sorry if it came off differently.
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Poopi
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
France12911 Posts
January 15 2018 21:21 GMT
#25
I've not read it yet but it's cool to have another article about soO.
However he won't ever win a starleague.
As a MKP fan it's cool to see another player take the Kong Line tho
WriterMaru
zealotstim
Profile Joined February 2015
United States455 Posts
January 15 2018 21:40 GMT
#26
soO has already repaid us with his dedication, great gamers, and fighting spirit.
fishjie
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States1519 Posts
January 15 2018 21:46 GMT
#27
soo is the best he is a true hero, rogue is a pretender hope he fails miserably and crumbles like sniper

what a jerk

User was warned for this post
GumBa
Profile Blog Joined July 2012
United Kingdom31935 Posts
Last Edited: 2018-01-15 21:48:50
January 15 2018 21:48 GMT
#28
On January 16 2018 06:46 fishjie wrote:
soo is the best he is a true hero, rogue is a pretender hope he fails miserably and crumbles like sniper

what a jerk

Mizenhauer alt?
To all the haters: you deserve to witness many, many more Serral victories, worthy of the godlike player he is.
argonautdice
Profile Joined January 2013
Canada2719 Posts
January 15 2018 23:03 GMT
#29
I believe soO got a hex put on him by the one he defeated at the final of 2012 MLG vs Proleague Invitational to win $10k in first place. That man's name? The Wizard of Oz.
very illegal and very uncool
Argonauta
Profile Joined July 2016
Spain4967 Posts
January 15 2018 23:12 GMT
#30
As am easy manipulable person, Can somebody take away the blizzcon trophey from rogue, kick him in the ass and give it to soO?
Rogue | Maru | Scarlett | Trap
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Shuffleblade
Profile Joined February 2012
Sweden1903 Posts
January 15 2018 23:52 GMT
#31
Really liked the article, thanks for this.
Maru, Bomber, TY, Dear, Classic, DeParture and Rogue!
Taco87
Profile Joined February 2012
Norway72 Posts
January 16 2018 00:48 GMT
#32
Lets hope for a first place this year! :D
fishjie
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States1519 Posts
January 16 2018 02:03 GMT
#33
On January 16 2018 06:48 GumBa wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 16 2018 06:46 fishjie wrote:
soo is the best he is a true hero, rogue is a pretender hope he fails miserably and crumbles like sniper

what a jerk

Mizenhauer alt?


NO. and boooom rogue got REKT by scarlett. EXCELLENT!!!!!!
Nakajin
Profile Blog Joined September 2014
Canada8989 Posts
January 16 2018 02:05 GMT
#34
On January 16 2018 06:46 fishjie wrote:
soo is the best he is a true hero, rogue is a pretender hope he fails miserably and crumbles like sniper

what a jerk


Why is he a jerk?
Writerhttp://i.imgur.com/9p6ufcB.jpg
EEk1TwEEk
Profile Joined June 2017
Russian Federation192 Posts
January 16 2018 14:12 GMT
#35
We all respect soO, but there's too much articles about him. Mizenhauer is clearly his fan
This man suffers from a bad heart, but I have plenty of medicine.
FrkFrJss
Profile Joined April 2015
Canada1205 Posts
January 16 2018 14:51 GMT
#36
On January 16 2018 05:13 pvsnp wrote:
I'm not a soO fan and can't say I was sad to watch him lose in 2014. But seeing it happen all over again in 2017 was kind of painful, even for a detached observer.

I may not be a fan, but I will still cheer for him to break his curse and finally lift a GSL trophy. Nobody with a heart could do any less. Though until that happens, I reserve the right to meme about his second places.

Great writing as usual, Mizenhauer. Though I gotta say, the frequency of these soO articles is a bit.....blatant.


I wholeheartedly agree with this. I will admit that I've cheered against him on every final he's faced against a Protoss....which has been like all of them except sOs and herO.

But his reaction every time he loses in a finals is heartbreaking. And just like foreigners tend to "go full foreigner," soO goes full soO in the finals. During Blizzcon, you could visibly see when his spirit began to wane.

I don't know if I'd cheer for him in a Blizzcon finals, but it is his time to hoist a GSL trophy.
"Keep Moving Forward" - Walt Disney
Lorch
Profile Joined June 2011
Germany3691 Posts
Last Edited: 2018-01-16 18:41:48
January 16 2018 18:40 GMT
#37
Kudos to all the people who keep cheering him on. It's obviously hardest on soo, but I know how hard it is to see your favorite come so close time and time again only to fail. Being a Jaedong fan in 2013 was super hard, and it seems like soO will go down in history as the player with the most 2nd places ever.
Gotta respect the guy for continuing onwards. A lot of people would have broken down at this point, but it seems like he never gives up. I really hope he'll eventually win a GSL or a blizzcon. But there will always be these kind of players. They look like gods time and time again, yet they never get the championship they deserve. Every eSport has these kind of players, but soO truly is the king of kongs.
I'd love to see an interview with Yellow about soO. It must be hard to see others suffer the same fate as you have.
ZigguratOfUr
Profile Blog Joined April 2012
Iraq16955 Posts
January 16 2018 18:45 GMT
#38
On January 16 2018 23:12 EEk1TwEEk wrote:
We all respect soO, but there's too much articles about him. Mizenhauer is clearly his fan

You're not forced to read them.
deacon.frost
Profile Joined February 2013
Czech Republic12129 Posts
January 16 2018 20:24 GMT
#39
Great read.

In case you would have the way to reach out sOs - drunk him and then ask him whether he's really that insane or good! I need to know the truth.

So far I am satisfied with him being insanely good
I imagine France should be able to take this unless Lilbow is busy practicing for Starcraft III. | KadaverBB is my fairy ban mother.
Poopi
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
France12911 Posts
January 16 2018 20:29 GMT
#40
Do you really believe it's even possible for him to win after so many 2nd places ?
Is there a guy in professionnal sport that always got 2nd but managed to finally win?
WriterMaru
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