EPTKorea 4-0 on Day 2 of the WCS Global Finals; Kelazhur and…
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MilkDud
Canada73 Posts
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Charoisaur
Germany16017 Posts
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Ej_
47656 Posts
On October 29 2017 12:20 pvsnp wrote: Throughout all of 2017, I've heard so many people (even some pros) hyping Serral's awesome skill, how Serral was poised to unleash his incredible talent and claim undying glory for himself on the big stage. Any day now. Any day...... .....yeah. That narrative peaked at Jönköping. As far as I'm concerned Serral is a great player who simply is not championship material. Not against players who are actually champions themselves, with the trophies to prove it. Not at Dreamhacks, and certainly not at Blizzcon. The foreigners are off to a pretty good start, all things considered, but Blizzcon is far from over. Tomorrow is the first real step down that path, and if the foreigners want the privilege of competing at Anaheim they're gonna have to earn it. Personally, I predict Neeb advancing alongside 7 Koreans as the most likely Ro8. Mental excercise: replace Serral in your post with GuMiho and 2017 with Starcraft. | ||
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Charoisaur
Germany16017 Posts
On October 29 2017 17:42 Ej_ wrote: Mental excercise: replace Serral in your post with GuMiho and 2017 with Starcraft. But... Gumiho won GSL... | ||
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Ej_
47656 Posts
Took him only 6 years too. | ||
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TheBloodyDwarf
Finland7524 Posts
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Mun_Su
France2063 Posts
So Serral must try again in 4-5 years | ||
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Elentos
55560 Posts
On October 29 2017 18:23 TheBloodyDwarf wrote: TRUE vs Serral was maybe the most one sided match of the day herO vs Elazer happened | ||
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Tortov
17 Posts
Yea, it's a shame. As Elazer pointed out, he was prepared for mass oracles and also for chargelots all-in. However, he was not prepared for oracles into chargelots all-in xD | ||
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Twinkle Toes
United States3605 Posts
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Serimek
France2274 Posts
On October 29 2017 19:51 Twinkle Toes wrote: Is this gonna be the last major SC2 event of the year? Hell no  | ||
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leublix
493 Posts
On October 29 2017 11:09 SidianTheBard wrote: Anyone else feel they should of had the winners final played before the losers final? Like, So...with Group A for instance: Stats vs Special TY vs Snute Then, why not play Special vs TY? Why play an elimination match on the opening day? This would do a few things. Give the person who is going to get eliminated a day to mess with strategies and prepare. They have to win two Bo3's in a row, why not give them some extra time. WIth the winner's match, the winner wins, they now have the week off to practice for the Ro8, but the loser of the winner's match now knows he's going to play one of the two losers, and can now prepare for either of them (or just one of them if they really think they will win.) So like... Stats vs Special TY vs Snute Special vs TY Let's say TY wins. Now Special has the night off, to prepare builds for either Stats or Snute. Both Snute & Stats have the night off to prepare, not only for their match against each other, but the possible match against Special. TY can go to bed happy because he knows he now has another week of practice before his next match, where as Special can prepare for either Stats or Snute for his final decider match. That makes much more sense to me. It's crazy that a player can get knocked out in one day for Blizzcon. You can say you want Bo5, or Bo7 for these groups too, which might help, but I feel the biggest problem is a player (snute in group A's case) getting knocked out of blizzcon in one day, after two best of 3s. At least if it was two days, two best of 3s, it gives him some extra time to prepare. I think the majority would prefer that. | ||
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Fango
United Kingdom8987 Posts
On October 29 2017 09:22 Solar424 wrote: Elazer trained in Korea and played in GSL, does that make him Korean? No because he competes in WCS circuit and entered blizzcon via circuit events. GSL is open to anyone | ||
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DBooN
Germany2727 Posts
Atleast that one was an upset though. | ||
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ROOTCatZ
Peru1226 Posts
On October 29 2017 10:20 CBAS2TheHumanLife wrote: Are you serious about that question? It is so obvious that both Elazer and TRUE came from WCS Circuit, and GSL is always open to anyone in the world, and WCS Circuit tournament does not allow Koreans except someone like TRUE who got permission to play in there with visa. I think the question he poses is great, it is not meant to make you think of Elazer as Korean but put things in perspective, you could use Scarlett or Major as better examples, Major has played in the GSL and played in Korea for a good portion of the year, does that make him Korean? Say, if Scarlett qualified through the GSL circuit next year, would we count her wins for Korean wins? Fuck no! think about it. I think that the narrative of this piece is far too ambiguous to a point of confusion, I think - it is FAR more intuitive to me to think of TRUE as Korean based on his nationality, same goes for Polt or hydra last year, they are not foreigners, they are koreans born in Korea, if you want to separate and keep score between the systems you can go for **"GSL"** and "WCS or World" as they did in the event, if you want to keep score based on nationality (Koreans vs Not) I think it's far more intuitive to consider the Koreans Koreans and the Non-Koreans Non-Koreans, but maybe that's just me.. Fuck.. think about someone who isn't familiar with the system reading this and having to do research to figure out why this korean guy is being called Not-Korean. If you say "the GSL 4-0's the group" I will understand that TRUE didn't come from GSL and thus represents the WCS, but.. TRUE was born/raised in Korea, and thus is... ding ding ding! KOREAN! When we refer to "foreigners" in StarCraft, it means / has meant for the last 17 years afaik: "Non-Korean"...can a Korean be a foreigner? I'd argue NO, not without changing that definition,not to meantion that distinction is kind of.. the only purpose of the word. The cool thing is definitions we set, say, in our own mini-starcraft-culture is that yours and mine don't have to align. A few comments here have adapted the definition of what they consider a "Foreigner" to anyone that comes or plays in the WCS system (To point out, a system that lags over 10 years behind the pre-existing notion of "foreigner" in StarCraft, meaning foreigner=WCS without a doubt wasn't a thing in years prior to it, and to me it still isn't). Koreans are Korean based on just one thing: Where are you from? if the answer is Korea, they are Korean, anything else serves to create confusion. The bottom line for me is the narrative / word choice in this instance is poor: too ambiguous and confusing. If you want evidence of that just look at the discussion about it we (and many others) are having right now. TRUE for me = Korean (you know... cause he is, in fact I think he even knows he is and considers himself Korean, as mind blowing as that may be) | ||
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