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blunderfulguy
Profile Blog Joined April 2016
United States1415 Posts
October 11 2017 11:28 GMT
#21
Rooting for you Diego! GLGL!

And happy (belated) birthday!
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Liquid`Nazgul
Profile Blog Joined September 2002
22427 Posts
October 11 2017 12:00 GMT
#22
On October 11 2017 08:25 qiandrezinho wrote:
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On October 11 2017 00:19 Liquid`Nazgul wrote:
Do any Brazilians or South Americans remember Hellghost?

:D


Of Course I do, I had lose to him on WCG in Brazil, he is from my town, his name is Igor Campolina.

I met him a whole bunch at WCG's. Great guy and fantastic player. Easily top 10 outside of Korea in his prime. I remember having a crazy game against him on Lost Temple that ended in a draw. I miss those days.
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Fango
Profile Joined July 2016
United Kingdom8987 Posts
October 11 2017 13:28 GMT
#23
On October 11 2017 08:20 breaker1328 wrote:
Hmmm... if any one remembers last year Elazer didn't win anything all year either but he made it farther than every foreigner at Blizzcon... so there's some hope for Kelazhur to be the underdog that Elazer was.


Elazer got there of the back of ZvZ, and meeting a foreigner in the ro8. Such a situation is unlikely to occur for kela. He has a group with Dark, herO, and Elazer.

And I don't think we're gonna get a foreigner vs foreigner ro8 match again, unless serral gets 1st in his group (possible)
Zest, sOs, PartinG, Dark, and Maru are the real champs. ROOT_herO is overrated. Snute, Serral, and Scarlett are the foreigner GOATs
Zealously
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
East Gorteau22261 Posts
October 11 2017 13:44 GMT
#24
On October 11 2017 21:00 Liquid`Nazgul wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 11 2017 08:25 qiandrezinho wrote:
On October 11 2017 00:19 Liquid`Nazgul wrote:
Do any Brazilians or South Americans remember Hellghost?

:D


Of Course I do, I had lose to him on WCG in Brazil, he is from my town, his name is Igor Campolina.

I met him a whole bunch at WCG's. Great guy and fantastic player. Easily top 10 outside of Korea in his prime. I remember having a crazy game against him on Lost Temple that ended in a draw. I miss those days.


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FrkFrJss
Profile Joined April 2015
Canada1205 Posts
October 11 2017 19:44 GMT
#25
On October 11 2017 22:28 Fango wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 11 2017 08:20 breaker1328 wrote:
Hmmm... if any one remembers last year Elazer didn't win anything all year either but he made it farther than every foreigner at Blizzcon... so there's some hope for Kelazhur to be the underdog that Elazer was.


Elazer got there of the back of ZvZ, and meeting a foreigner in the ro8. Such a situation is unlikely to occur for kela. He has a group with Dark, herO, and Elazer.

And I don't think we're gonna get a foreigner vs foreigner ro8 match again, unless serral gets 1st in his group (possible)


If Kela places first, he can beat Serral in the ro8.
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pvsnp
Profile Joined January 2017
7676 Posts
October 11 2017 19:51 GMT
#26
On October 12 2017 04:44 FrkFrJss wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 11 2017 22:28 Fango wrote:
On October 11 2017 08:20 breaker1328 wrote:
Hmmm... if any one remembers last year Elazer didn't win anything all year either but he made it farther than every foreigner at Blizzcon... so there's some hope for Kelazhur to be the underdog that Elazer was.


Elazer got there of the back of ZvZ, and meeting a foreigner in the ro8. Such a situation is unlikely to occur for kela. He has a group with Dark, herO, and Elazer.

And I don't think we're gonna get a foreigner vs foreigner ro8 match again, unless serral gets 1st in his group (possible)


If Kela places first, he can beat Serral in the ro8.

If Kela places first, he will have defeated Dark and herO, meaning he would probably then become the favorite to win Blizzcon. Beating Serral at that point would be a mere formality.

Of course, there is a monstrously powerful Dark-shaped obstacle blocking that path.
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Rolltide
Profile Joined May 2017
United States447 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-10-11 21:59:41
October 11 2017 21:57 GMT
#27
My prediction:
#15 Major (lol foreigner terrans)
#14 True
#13 Nerchio
#12 Elazer
#11 Snute
#10 Gumiho
#9 Serral
#8 TY
#7 Neeb
#6 herO
#5 soO
#4 Dark
#3 Stats
#2 Innovation
#1 Rogue
Foreign terrans suck, the ranking of foreign zergs is hard to call but its certainly #15-#10. Korean terrans also suck nowadays so Gumiho and TY are quite low. Neeb can hang around with the good koreans but not with the best. Top 3 is Stats, Inno and Rogue, but i'm not sure in which order.


That's not a prediction that is a ranking.
Rolltide
Profile Joined May 2017
United States447 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-10-11 22:03:04
October 11 2017 22:02 GMT
#28


If Kela places first, he can beat Serral in the ro8.


How in the hell is that going to happen? He's going to beat Dark and then Hero?

He will go out 0-2. In the event he was to come out with a freakish win over Dark much like Showtime's shocking victory over Byun in group last year he will lose to Hero in the winner's match and face Dark again in the decider.

No chance!
Kafka777
Profile Joined December 2015
361 Posts
October 11 2017 22:08 GMT
#29
How in the hell is that going to happen? He's going to beat Dark and then Hero?

He will go out 0-2. In the event he was to come out with a freakish win over Dark much like Showtime's shocking victory over Byun in group last year he will lose to Hero in the winner's match and face Dark again in the decider.

No chance!


If he wins with Dark.... He will more likely face Elazer in the winners match.
FrkFrJss
Profile Joined April 2015
Canada1205 Posts
October 11 2017 22:31 GMT
#30
On October 12 2017 04:51 pvsnp wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 12 2017 04:44 FrkFrJss wrote:
On October 11 2017 22:28 Fango wrote:
On October 11 2017 08:20 breaker1328 wrote:
Hmmm... if any one remembers last year Elazer didn't win anything all year either but he made it farther than every foreigner at Blizzcon... so there's some hope for Kelazhur to be the underdog that Elazer was.


Elazer got there of the back of ZvZ, and meeting a foreigner in the ro8. Such a situation is unlikely to occur for kela. He has a group with Dark, herO, and Elazer.

And I don't think we're gonna get a foreigner vs foreigner ro8 match again, unless serral gets 1st in his group (possible)


If Kela places first, he can beat Serral in the ro8.

If Kela places first, he will have defeated Dark and herO, meaning he would probably then become the favorite to win Blizzcon. Beating Serral at that point would be a mere formality.

Of course, there is a monstrously powerful Dark-shaped obstacle blocking that path.


Well, according to Catz, Kela is favoured to win Blizzcon, and if not him, then herO. So, I think getting out of the groups should be easy, and then he'll face herO in the finals.
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Soularion
Profile Blog Joined January 2014
Canada2764 Posts
October 11 2017 22:33 GMT
#31
On October 11 2017 22:28 Fango wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 11 2017 08:20 breaker1328 wrote:
Hmmm... if any one remembers last year Elazer didn't win anything all year either but he made it farther than every foreigner at Blizzcon... so there's some hope for Kelazhur to be the underdog that Elazer was.


Elazer got there of the back of ZvZ, and meeting a foreigner in the ro8. Such a situation is unlikely to occur for kela. He has a group with Dark, herO, and Elazer.

And I don't think we're gonna get a foreigner vs foreigner ro8 match again, unless serral gets 1st in his group (possible)

Neeb beating soO and Rogue is possible, albeit unlikely. Probably more likely than Serral beating INno and GuMi.
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pvsnp
Profile Joined January 2017
7676 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-10-11 23:27:36
October 11 2017 23:24 GMT
#32
On October 12 2017 07:33 Soularion wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 11 2017 22:28 Fango wrote:
On October 11 2017 08:20 breaker1328 wrote:
Hmmm... if any one remembers last year Elazer didn't win anything all year either but he made it farther than every foreigner at Blizzcon... so there's some hope for Kelazhur to be the underdog that Elazer was.


Elazer got there of the back of ZvZ, and meeting a foreigner in the ro8. Such a situation is unlikely to occur for kela. He has a group with Dark, herO, and Elazer.

And I don't think we're gonna get a foreigner vs foreigner ro8 match again, unless serral gets 1st in his group (possible)

Neeb beating soO and Rogue is possible, albeit unlikely. Probably more likely than Serral beating INno and GuMi.

Neeb has a modest chance of beating one of soO/Rogue, though I would be surprised if he managed to beat both of them. Serral has the best chance of any foreigner in the opening match, I'd give him around 50/50 against Gumiho, more if Gumi goes bio. But he's got no chance against Inno.
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Soularion
Profile Blog Joined January 2014
Canada2764 Posts
October 12 2017 00:18 GMT
#33
On October 12 2017 08:24 pvsnp wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 12 2017 07:33 Soularion wrote:
On October 11 2017 22:28 Fango wrote:
On October 11 2017 08:20 breaker1328 wrote:
Hmmm... if any one remembers last year Elazer didn't win anything all year either but he made it farther than every foreigner at Blizzcon... so there's some hope for Kelazhur to be the underdog that Elazer was.


Elazer got there of the back of ZvZ, and meeting a foreigner in the ro8. Such a situation is unlikely to occur for kela. He has a group with Dark, herO, and Elazer.

And I don't think we're gonna get a foreigner vs foreigner ro8 match again, unless serral gets 1st in his group (possible)

Neeb beating soO and Rogue is possible, albeit unlikely. Probably more likely than Serral beating INno and GuMi.

Neeb has a modest chance of beating one of soO/Rogue, though I would be surprised if he managed to beat both of them. Serral has the best chance of any foreigner in the opening match, I'd give him around 50/50 against Gumiho, more if Gumi goes bio. But he's got no chance against Inno.

It's hard to judge his PvZ, honestly. He hasn't played a single korean zerg offline all year. But yeah, I think the uncertainty raises it from 'yeah not happening' to 'probably not, but hard to say'.

Especially because Nerchio beating soO isn't impossible either. [although he's not favored - probably 30/70 in my eyes]
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RiDeN
Profile Joined March 2003
Brazil31 Posts
October 12 2017 01:08 GMT
#34
On October 11 2017 21:00 Liquid`Nazgul wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 11 2017 08:25 qiandrezinho wrote:
On October 11 2017 00:19 Liquid`Nazgul wrote:
Do any Brazilians or South Americans remember Hellghost?

:D


Of Course I do, I had lose to him on WCG in Brazil, he is from my town, his name is Igor Campolina.

I met him a whole bunch at WCG's. Great guy and fantastic player. Easily top 10 outside of Korea in his prime. I remember having a crazy game against him on Lost Temple that ended in a draw. I miss those days.


I used to play quite a bit with HG during early 2000's. I saw this Lost Temple replay back then! One of you was fiercely defending on one of the corner islands!

HG was quite talented indeed. Played beautifully. And he won 2-0 against HOT-Forever at a WCG finals playoff game.
Rolltide
Profile Joined May 2017
United States447 Posts
October 12 2017 05:18 GMT
#35
If he wins with Dark.... He will more likely face Elazer in the winners match.


So Elazer is going to beat Hero? Hero is probably the 4th best player or better in the world now. He is in better form right now than Stats.
Rolltide
Profile Joined May 2017
United States447 Posts
October 12 2017 05:24 GMT
#36
Neeb has a modest chance of beating one of soO/Rogue, though I would be surprised if he managed to beat both of them.


He doesn't have to beat both of them he only has to beat one. If Neeb loses to Rogue and SoO beats Nerchio Neeb plays Nerchio in the losers match and then if he wins plays the loser of the winners match.

Based on recent form that would likely be SoO. The way Rogue is playing hardly anybody can beat him.

Poor Nerchio has no chance in that group. Neeb has the advantage of preparing for one race in group.

Rolltide
Profile Joined May 2017
United States447 Posts
October 12 2017 05:31 GMT
#37
In terms of recent form the 4 best players in the world right now are Rogue-Hero-Innovation-Dark. Stats and SoO are always solid and so usually is TY though he has been mediocre lately for him.

In Master's coliseum 2 TY and stats were the last ones in their group with 2-6 map records. Rogue and Hero were in the finals of super tournament, Dark is going deep in every tournament he plays and Innovation is super solid .

FrkFrJss
Profile Joined April 2015
Canada1205 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-10-12 05:39:21
October 12 2017 05:34 GMT
#38
On October 12 2017 14:18 Rolltide wrote:
Show nested quote +
If he wins with Dark.... He will more likely face Elazer in the winners match.


So Elazer is going to beat Hero? Hero is probably the 4th best player or better in the world now. He is in better form right now than Stats.



Nah...HerO is like worse than a lot of foreigners right now. He's easy to beat (not even in the top 100 on aligulac). However, herO just avenged his loss to Rogue in the Master's Colosseum. But if Elazer can win against the best foreign Protoss, Neeb,......in the Nydus Open 2 Ro4 on May 13, 2017, then he can win against herO. Also, Elazer's wins against Protoss number at 666, so I don't think there's any question about him beating herO.


But in all seriousness, Elazer's won a number of games against top level Protoss. A lot of them are online matches, sure, but he's beaten players like Classic, Zest, and Stats. So I think he does stand a chance--even if herO is the favourite right now.


EDIT:

On October 12 2017 14:24 Rolltide wrote:
Show nested quote +
Neeb has a modest chance of beating one of soO/Rogue, though I would be surprised if he managed to beat both of them.


He doesn't have to beat both of them he only has to beat one. If Neeb loses to Rogue and SoO beats Nerchio Neeb plays Nerchio in the losers match and then if he wins plays the loser of the winners match.

Based on recent form that would likely be SoO. The way Rogue is playing hardly anybody can beat him.

Poor Nerchio has no chance in that group. Neeb has the advantage of preparing for one race in group.



I think what I'm worried about is if Rogue beats Neeb and then loses to soO in the Winner's match. Neeb would have to play Rogue again. That being said, I'm reasonably confident about Neeb being able to beat soO. Rogue is definitely the harder threat, but it is tough to maintain form from one tournament to another--especially with the large number of replays that Neeb can use to study Rogue whereas Rogue can only study Neeb playing against worse Zergs.
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