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Zest wins HSC XV

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Olli
Profile Blog Joined February 2012
Austria24422 Posts
July 24 2017 17:01 GMT
#1
As is tradition, foreigners and Koreans gathered at the TakeTV studio in Krefeld, Germany, for HomeStory Cup. The popular tournament brought three beloved Korean players in (T)GuMiho, (T)ByuN and (P)Zest to compete against some of the top foreign talent in StarCraft II.






The first group stage brought few surprises, with all three Korean players topping their group and only one map dropped between them. As (Z)HateMe was forcing to forfeit his spot in the tournament due to illness, (P)RotterdaM stepped in and promptly faced GuMiho in perhaps the most anticipated series of the initial group stage. Despite some nice early game control by the brave caster, GuMiho eventually rolled him over, as he did everyone else he faced on his way to the quarterfinals.

ByuN had no trouble either, as he also breezed through the first two group stages without dropping a map. (T)Dayshi, (P)Harstem, (P)MaNa and (P)ShoWTimE were crossed off his hit-list, before he was drawn against Harstem again in the quarterfinals. The Dutch Protoss had caused the biggest upset of the event up until that point, defeating WCS Valencia finalist Snute 3-0 to advance to the bracket stage.

Zest had by far the hardest time of the three Koreans, having to grind his way through three bloody 3-2 series in his Ro16 group—two against (T)HeRoMaRinE, one against (Z)Elazer, the first two in his favor, the latter in Elazer's.






Something seemed to click for (P)Zest, however, as he considerably improved seemingly with every series he played. His series against (T)GuMiho was highly entertaining and, despite everyone highly favoring the reigning GSL Champion GuMiho, Zest ended up pulling through in another 3-2 scrap. The series had everything you could hope for in a match and went down to the wire in very close games. Eventually Zest weathered the storm, though, and booked his place in the semifinals.

(T)uThermal knocked out (Z)Serral with a dirty 4-barracks-proxy on Proxima Station and, when a similar build was held on Ascension to Aiur, turned to reapers instead. The switch proved successful as he won the next two games and moved on to face Zest.

The newly crowned WCS Champion (Z)Elazer displayed great PvZ against (P)ShoWTimE, with relentless attacks and aggression breaking through the German's defenses. His multi-pronged attacks on Ascension to Aiur especially showed exactly why he feels confident in the match-up.

(T)ByuN again had little trouble with (P)Harstem, sweeping the Dutchman a second time with clinical precision that Harstem had no answer for.




(P)Zest looked like a man revived as he dismantled (T)uThermal in an impressive PvT showing, spoiled only by a loss to uThermal's proxy factory. The rest of the series featured rock-solid defense with a newly popular phoenix/chargelot style that did very well against uThermal's aggression, but also allowed smooth transition to blink and colossus as the games went on.

(Z)Elazer did very well to defend (T)ByuN's 3-rax-reaper build on Abyssal Reef and made a few great moves to take the first set, but ultimately ran out of steam against ByuN's relentless bio aggression. ByuN seized every opportunity he was given, and closed out the series 3-1 in the end to set up a Grand Finals against Zest—a match between the two GSL Champions of 2016.




The series began on Ascension to Aiur, and if anyone still doubted (P)Zest's ability to compete with one of the best Terrans, that doubt was quickly washed away by a brilliant defensive display. (T)ByuN got the better of the openings as his greedy 3CC build was met with no aggression due to Zest choosing a robotics facility as his tech of choice. The Protoss responded with double forge and colossus, keeping him safe from ByuN's larger than usual army. ByuN scanned and killed every single one of Zest's observers, making it that much harder for Zest to defend properly. And yet, with zealots and pylons in the right places, Zest was never caught out of position and eventually defended a big bio/viking attack to swing the game heavily in his favor. ByuN tapped out shortly after, giving Zest a 1-0 lead in the series.

Zest's revival continued when a proxy stargate on Abyssal Reef did huge damage to ByuN's economy and standing army. Nevertheless he almost lost the game when his army was caught in the open, and ByuN then sieged his natural base. Zest broke the contain with the help of friendly fire from ByuN's widow mines, and even caught ByuN's retreating medivacs and all his units inside them. Left with nothing to defend Zest's imminent counterattack, ByuN conceded again.

The third game looked good for the Protoss as well, with double upgrades and colossus out to defend three bases. Unfortunately, though, the game ended abruptly as ByuN caught Zest at the only weak moment, when only one sentry had been warped in to defend his colossus. A large bio army stimmed into the third base of Zest, shot down both colossus and Zest immediately GG'd.

Odyssey turned into another messy game, with Zest again choosing to play a phoenix opening with charge zealot follow-up. ByuN this time attempted to break his opponent with a 2-base-attack, but Zest eventually overpowered the Terran army while his own economy remained untouched. ByuN never went beyond two command centers, and was forced to concede as his army was mowed down by zealots.

He got off to a much better start in the 5th game by scouting Zest's proxy stargate right away. a second pylon secured the proxy, though, and Zest's oracles eliminated ByuN's marine count early on, forcing him to invest in a few cyclones to keep himself safe. Zest chose an aggressive follow-up, with stalkers pressuring the front of ByuN's base, while Zest teched to a dark shrine. The DTs did no damage, however, and ByuN was able to deliver a very easy killing blow in return.

Zest still appeared quite comfortable in the series and went back to a build he had tremendous success with in 2016, but that has fallen out of favor recently—a DT drop, with double upgrades, blink and charge as a follow-up. ByuN was caught unprepared by the DTs and sustained some damage, but not to the point of no return. Zest made no mistake as the game went on, though, was never caught out of position, while always staying ahead in upgrades and threatening ByuN heavily with a very mobile army. When a warp prism found its way into the back natural of ByuN, the Terran was forced to fight the Protoss army as his SCVs were killed back at home. Zest cleaned up ByuN's army with ease and the Terran conceded.

(P)Zest emerged from the booth as a HomeStory Cup Champion, after he had barely lost a close series at previous HSC. His victory grants the Protoss 4.500€ and, perhaps most importantly, a much needed polishing of his reputation, which had suffered due to poor results as of late.
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opisska
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Poland8852 Posts
July 24 2017 17:20 GMT
#2
Brace for the Zest fanboys who will milk this win for as much affirmation that Zest doesn't actually suck balls as possible. I am not sure you should even do these articles for HSC, it gives it too much ... legitimacy. It surely is the most enjoyable thing to ever watch in SC2, but as a weekender with a whole three Koreans, with the additional possibility of any player being drunk or at least hungover, it really isn't about results too much.
"Jeez, that's far from ideal." - Serral, the king of mild trashtalk
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Boggyb
Profile Joined January 2017
2855 Posts
July 24 2017 17:54 GMT
#3
On July 25 2017 02:20 opisska wrote:
Brace for the Zest fanboys who will milk this win for as much affirmation that Zest doesn't actually suck balls as possible. I am not sure you should even do these articles for HSC, it gives it too much ... legitimacy. It surely is the most enjoyable thing to ever watch in SC2, but as a weekender with a whole three Koreans, with the additional possibility of any player being drunk or at least hungover, it really isn't about results too much.

Even if Zest were back at his 2016 GSL champion level, it wouldn't mean jack since he has basically zero meaningful games of Starcraft remaining in 2017. He's not at IEM. He's not at GSL vs. The World. SSL Challenger is kind of meaningless without knowing if there will be SSL in 2018. I suppose there is the next GSL super tournament which would be meaningful, but winning it wouldn't get him to Blizzcon.
[PkF] Wire
Profile Joined March 2013
France24238 Posts
July 24 2017 17:59 GMT
#4
On July 25 2017 02:20 opisska wrote:
Brace for the Zest fanboys who will milk this win for as much affirmation that Zest doesn't actually suck balls as possible. I am not sure you should even do these articles for HSC, it gives it too much ... legitimacy. It surely is the most enjoyable thing to ever watch in SC2, but as a weekender with a whole three Koreans, with the additional possibility of any player being drunk or at least hungover, it really isn't about results too much.

Zest played very well - with inconsistency though - over the tournament.
beepbeeeeeeep
Profile Joined February 2017
145 Posts
July 24 2017 18:13 GMT
#5
i wrote zest off in this tournament. i expected that if he didn't get knocked out by a foreigner, he'd get crushed by gumi or byun. well i'm glad i was wrong and am super happy for him. congrats zest!
-KG-
Profile Joined October 2012
Denmark1219 Posts
July 24 2017 18:29 GMT
#6
Always a pleasure to watch HSC. GG Zest!
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Phredxor
Profile Joined May 2013
New Zealand15076 Posts
July 24 2017 18:58 GMT
#7
On July 25 2017 02:20 opisska wrote:
Brace for the Zest fanboys who will milk this win for as much affirmation that Zest doesn't actually suck balls as possible. I am not sure you should even do these articles for HSC, it gives it too much ... legitimacy. It surely is the most enjoyable thing to ever watch in SC2, but as a weekender with a whole three Koreans, with the additional possibility of any player being drunk or at least hungover, it really isn't about results too much.


Fanboys will do that for any player who gets a result. Like sOs making a RO16 apparently means hes gonna win Blizzcon.
opisska
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Poland8852 Posts
July 24 2017 19:05 GMT
#8
On July 25 2017 02:59 [PkF] Wire wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 25 2017 02:20 opisska wrote:
Brace for the Zest fanboys who will milk this win for as much affirmation that Zest doesn't actually suck balls as possible. I am not sure you should even do these articles for HSC, it gives it too much ... legitimacy. It surely is the most enjoyable thing to ever watch in SC2, but as a weekender with a whole three Koreans, with the additional possibility of any player being drunk or at least hungover, it really isn't about results too much.

Zest played very well - with inconsistency though - over the tournament.


He lost many maps to foreigners, he lost a series to Elazer (admittedly a super-top foreigner, but still someone who went out in Ro32 GSL), he lost a map to friggin' demuslim! Yeah, he won the whole thing, but nowhere near a dominating fashion. I hope the reaction won't be "but he looked really good in the games", because that has been discussed to death already how that doesn't matter at all.

In any case, even if he didn't drop a map, it's just not that hard to look great against weak opposition. Again, that's not a criticism of HSC, it's really my favourite thing to watch, but it definitely isn't my favourite thing to draw conclusions about anything from when it comes to results.
"Jeez, that's far from ideal." - Serral, the king of mild trashtalk
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ZigguratOfUr
Profile Blog Joined April 2012
Iraq16955 Posts
July 24 2017 19:31 GMT
#9
On July 25 2017 04:05 opisska wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 25 2017 02:59 [PkF] Wire wrote:
On July 25 2017 02:20 opisska wrote:
Brace for the Zest fanboys who will milk this win for as much affirmation that Zest doesn't actually suck balls as possible. I am not sure you should even do these articles for HSC, it gives it too much ... legitimacy. It surely is the most enjoyable thing to ever watch in SC2, but as a weekender with a whole three Koreans, with the additional possibility of any player being drunk or at least hungover, it really isn't about results too much.

Zest played very well - with inconsistency though - over the tournament.


He lost many maps to foreigners, he lost a series to Elazer (admittedly a super-top foreigner, but still someone who went out in Ro32 GSL), he lost a map to friggin' demuslim! Yeah, he won the whole thing, but nowhere near a dominating fashion. I hope the reaction won't be "but he looked really good in the games", because that has been discussed to death already how that doesn't matter at all.

In any case, even if he didn't drop a map, it's just not that hard to look great against weak opposition. Again, that's not a criticism of HSC, it's really my favourite thing to watch, but it definitely isn't my favourite thing to draw conclusions about anything from when it comes to results.


So you're saying we should be shitting on GuMi and ByuN for losing to such an awful player instead.
GornWood
Profile Joined June 2011
Germany121 Posts
July 24 2017 20:48 GMT
#10
Holy flying fuck stop being so harsh on players who aren't always performing at top tier. I refuse to believe that only because someone doesn't win all the time it automatically means he became super bad or is sucking balls. Zest was without a doubt the best player in early 2016. After that he wasn't performing as well but he was still a good player. At the top most of the players can take games and series of each other depending on how they feel on that day. There certainly is no fucking reason to discredit Zest's win at HSC. They had a good time and competitive matches. Comparing GSL to a tournament where the players know their matchups only one to half a day prior to playing is not the smartest thing to do either. GSL involves far more long term preparation for each match than any other tournament. So on one side you have players preparing for 2 weeks only to play one match, on the other side you have players who don't have the time to prepare for only one match. What has more worth, winning a preparation contest or winning because you're all around just a solid player?

In any case, even if he didn't drop a map, it's just not that hard to look great against weak opposition. Again, that's not a criticism of HSC, it's really my favourite thing to watch, but it definitely isn't my favourite thing to draw conclusions about anything from when it comes to results.

What is the weak opposition thing about? Gumiho winning the GSL (which you praise to be the most competitive and best source for skill in SC2) only one month prior to HSC is weak opposition. You're kind of contradicting yourself.
Alarak89
Profile Joined January 2016
United States882 Posts
July 24 2017 20:59 GMT
#11
On July 25 2017 02:20 opisska wrote:
Brace for the Zest fanboys who will milk this win for as much affirmation that Zest doesn't actually suck balls as possible. I am not sure you should even do these articles for HSC, it gives it too much ... legitimacy. It surely is the most enjoyable thing to ever watch in SC2, but as a weekender with a whole three Koreans, with the additional possibility of any player being drunk or at least hungover, it really isn't about results too much.

I was kind confusing when I see this title appearing on TL too but after I saw the author I realized everything.
Some fanboys will do anything they could to cheer for their player, you have to get used to that.
sOs is THE ONLY player I pay attention to
Olli
Profile Blog Joined February 2012
Austria24422 Posts
July 24 2017 21:09 GMT
#12
On July 25 2017 05:59 Alarak89 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 25 2017 02:20 opisska wrote:
Brace for the Zest fanboys who will milk this win for as much affirmation that Zest doesn't actually suck balls as possible. I am not sure you should even do these articles for HSC, it gives it too much ... legitimacy. It surely is the most enjoyable thing to ever watch in SC2, but as a weekender with a whole three Koreans, with the additional possibility of any player being drunk or at least hungover, it really isn't about results too much.

I was kind confusing when I see this title appearing on TL too but after I saw the author I realized everything.
Some fanboys will do anything they could to cheer for their player, you have to get used to that.


If you seriously think I put all this effort into a recap to make Zest look good then you're completely deluded. "X wins Y" is our standard title for a tournament recap.
Administrator"Declaring anything a disaster because aLive popped up out of nowhere is just downright silly."
Alarak89
Profile Joined January 2016
United States882 Posts
July 24 2017 21:46 GMT
#13
On July 25 2017 06:09 Olli wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 25 2017 05:59 Alarak89 wrote:
On July 25 2017 02:20 opisska wrote:
Brace for the Zest fanboys who will milk this win for as much affirmation that Zest doesn't actually suck balls as possible. I am not sure you should even do these articles for HSC, it gives it too much ... legitimacy. It surely is the most enjoyable thing to ever watch in SC2, but as a weekender with a whole three Koreans, with the additional possibility of any player being drunk or at least hungover, it really isn't about results too much.

I was kind confusing when I see this title appearing on TL too but after I saw the author I realized everything.
Some fanboys will do anything they could to cheer for their player, you have to get used to that.


If you seriously think I put all this effort into a recap to make Zest look good then you're completely deluded. "X wins Y" is our standard title for a tournament recap.

I have no opinion about fanboys/fangirls and I'm just telling him to get used to it.
BTW I still remember that great article named "Zest: The Last Titan", and the following consequences happened to Zest till now, I guess you must be a special magician.
sOs is THE ONLY player I pay attention to
Olli
Profile Blog Joined February 2012
Austria24422 Posts
July 24 2017 21:51 GMT
#14
You mean the one that stuchiu wrote, not I?
Administrator"Declaring anything a disaster because aLive popped up out of nowhere is just downright silly."
Alarak89
Profile Joined January 2016
United States882 Posts
July 24 2017 21:55 GMT
#15
On July 25 2017 06:51 Olli wrote:
You mean the one that stuchiu wrote, not I?

Maybe him, I don't remember who is the author though, but you guys should stop destroy Zest's career anyway
sOs is THE ONLY player I pay attention to
Fango
Profile Joined July 2016
United Kingdom8987 Posts
July 24 2017 21:58 GMT
#16
Zest won a tournament against players that litterally no one favoured him against, and talking about it is biased fanboyism? okay then
Zest, sOs, PartinG, Dark, and Maru are the real champs. ROOT_herO is overrated. Snute, Serral, and Scarlett are the foreigner GOATs
ejozl
Profile Joined October 2010
Denmark3475 Posts
July 24 2017 22:02 GMT
#17
On July 25 2017 03:58 Phredxor wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 25 2017 02:20 opisska wrote:
Brace for the Zest fanboys who will milk this win for as much affirmation that Zest doesn't actually suck balls as possible. I am not sure you should even do these articles for HSC, it gives it too much ... legitimacy. It surely is the most enjoyable thing to ever watch in SC2, but as a weekender with a whole three Koreans, with the additional possibility of any player being drunk or at least hungover, it really isn't about results too much.


Fanboys will do that for any player who gets a result. Like sOs making a RO16 apparently means hes gonna win Blizzcon.

Wait I just realized sOs is already RO16, he's gonna win Blizzcon guys!
SC2 Archon needs "Terrible, terrible damage" as one of it's quotes.
Carminedust
Profile Joined October 2014
487 Posts
July 24 2017 22:04 GMT
#18
only 149 more hsc Titles to go and zest will tie taeja
Maybe was Zoun only Fan before he retired idk
Alarak89
Profile Joined January 2016
United States882 Posts
July 24 2017 22:28 GMT
#19
On July 25 2017 07:02 ejozl wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 25 2017 03:58 Phredxor wrote:
On July 25 2017 02:20 opisska wrote:
Brace for the Zest fanboys who will milk this win for as much affirmation that Zest doesn't actually suck balls as possible. I am not sure you should even do these articles for HSC, it gives it too much ... legitimacy. It surely is the most enjoyable thing to ever watch in SC2, but as a weekender with a whole three Koreans, with the additional possibility of any player being drunk or at least hungover, it really isn't about results too much.


Fanboys will do that for any player who gets a result. Like sOs making a RO16 apparently means hes gonna win Blizzcon.

Wait I just realized sOs is already RO16, he's gonna win Blizzcon guys!

You have to write an article about sOs (or any player you like) and post it on TL under community news or you are not a true fanboy. Would you?
sOs is THE ONLY player I pay attention to
207aicila
Profile Joined January 2015
1237 Posts
July 24 2017 22:36 GMT
#20
On July 25 2017 02:59 [PkF] Wire wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 25 2017 02:20 opisska wrote:
Brace for the Zest fanboys who will milk this win for as much affirmation that Zest doesn't actually suck balls as possible. I am not sure you should even do these articles for HSC, it gives it too much ... legitimacy. It surely is the most enjoyable thing to ever watch in SC2, but as a weekender with a whole three Koreans, with the additional possibility of any player being drunk or at least hungover, it really isn't about results too much.

Zest played very well - with inconsistency though - over the tournament.


If someone had shown me his matches against HeRoMaRiNe and hid the names I never would have guessed that was supposed to be a high ranking Korean Protoss...

I've always loved Wooki but yeah even judging solely on the matches of his that I watched at this tournament, it's ridiculous that he even made it to the finals. The series against ByuN wasn't bad though, and I'm told the one vs GuMiHo was also good.
mfw people who never followed BW speak about sAviOr as if they know anything... -___-''''
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Shellshock
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States97276 Posts
July 24 2017 22:39 GMT
#21
On July 25 2017 07:04 Carminedust wrote:
only 149 more hsc Titles to go and zest will tie taeja

You're assuming Taeja doesn't win the next hsc as a random player
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Charoisaur
Profile Joined August 2014
Germany16035 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-07-24 23:03:03
July 24 2017 22:58 GMT
#22
I agree that this win doesn't prove at all that he's back at his old form.
But I think it's safe to say that he has improved tremendously after being in the lowest low possible (going 1-8 in SSL, losing to TIME and Scarlett in gsl qualifiers)
Ofc it's a shame that this happens at a point where he doesn't have any meaningful tournaments to play in anymore except the GSL ST.
Many of the coolest moments in sc2 happen due to worker harassment
Shathe
Profile Joined July 2017
Hungary422 Posts
July 24 2017 23:39 GMT
#23
He beat Gumiho and Byun , it speaks for itself
beepbeeeeeeep
Profile Joined February 2017
145 Posts
July 24 2017 23:54 GMT
#24
the pettiness in this thread is bizarre
Fango
Profile Joined July 2016
United Kingdom8987 Posts
July 25 2017 00:03 GMT
#25
On July 25 2017 07:36 207aicila wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 25 2017 02:59 [PkF] Wire wrote:
On July 25 2017 02:20 opisska wrote:
Brace for the Zest fanboys who will milk this win for as much affirmation that Zest doesn't actually suck balls as possible. I am not sure you should even do these articles for HSC, it gives it too much ... legitimacy. It surely is the most enjoyable thing to ever watch in SC2, but as a weekender with a whole three Koreans, with the additional possibility of any player being drunk or at least hungover, it really isn't about results too much.

Zest played very well - with inconsistency though - over the tournament.


If someone had shown me his matches against HeRoMaRiNe and hid the names I never would have guessed that was supposed to be a high ranking Korean Protoss...

I've always loved Wooki but yeah even judging solely on the matches of his that I watched at this tournament, it's ridiculous that he even made it to the finals. The series against ByuN wasn't bad though, and I'm told the one vs GuMiHo was also good.


Zest played upto his opponents. His games against Heromarine and Elazer were pretty bad. But some of the maps against ByuN looked close to the perfect games old Zest was known for. It's not the first time he's done it in a tournament. At Katowice 2015 he was losing to guys like Hydra near the start, but when he reached the finals he crushed it

On July 25 2017 07:58 Charoisaur wrote:
I agree that this win doesn't prove at all that he's back at his old form.


No one is saying Zest is back in peak form. idk where people are getting that from
Zest, sOs, PartinG, Dark, and Maru are the real champs. ROOT_herO is overrated. Snute, Serral, and Scarlett are the foreigner GOATs
Shellshock
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States97276 Posts
July 25 2017 02:02 GMT
#26
zest is back to peak form imo
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Bagration
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
United States18282 Posts
July 25 2017 03:09 GMT
#27
Oh snap, Liquipedia doesn't list HSC XV as a Premier event anymore
Team Slayers, Axiom-Acer and Vile forever
zealotstim
Profile Joined February 2015
United States455 Posts
July 25 2017 05:24 GMT
#28
Zest is back in top form, clearly now that he is better than byun and gumiho. He will begin to dominate sc2 like it's 2015 again. Glad this tournament proved he is still the best and will never be kept down.
Topdoller
Profile Joined March 2011
United Kingdom3860 Posts
July 25 2017 06:05 GMT
#29
The elitism of this forum and is posters leaves a lot to be desired. Zest played well and he beat 2 of the top 4 Korean Terrans to win it. If people rate Zest as Code B or a shit player what does that make the the top foreigners whom participated, as they were raped by the Koreans
lestye
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States4186 Posts
July 25 2017 07:32 GMT
#30
He might not be at his peak self, but I'm happy to see Zest winning something.
"You guys are just edgelords. Embrace your inner weeb desu" -Zergneedsfood
ParksonVN
Profile Joined October 2015
Australia370 Posts
July 25 2017 09:46 GMT
#31
It's ridiculous that some people say "Zest is back" or "his slump has ended". Even though he won HSC (weekend tournament with none of the tier-1 players besides Gumiho) , he is still far from his peak form considered his performance in Korea is very poor. However it's good to see he's getting back on track.
Diabolique
Profile Joined June 2015
Czech Republic5118 Posts
July 25 2017 09:49 GMT
#32
Zest is Best.
At least that is what they all said at the end and were shouting it.
sOs | Rogue | Maru | Trap | Scarlett | Snute | MC
swissman777
Profile Joined September 2014
1106 Posts
July 25 2017 09:50 GMT
#33
I am glad that zest is finally performing to his levels. And I wholeheartedly comgratulate any zest fans for sticking with him. Now leave me alone while I plan sOs' road for blizzcon 2017 and winning a 700k and become the first sc2 winning millionaire.
Shuffleblade
Profile Joined February 2012
Sweden1903 Posts
July 25 2017 10:01 GMT
#34
No matter what anyone says its clear Zests PvT is world class, as for the other matchups they are weaker but how much, who knows. Was great matches to watch either way, still really sad Serral went out before he got to face a korean.
Maru, Bomber, TY, Dear, Classic, DeParture and Rogue!
DBooN
Profile Joined May 2011
Germany2727 Posts
July 25 2017 10:26 GMT
#35
REEEEEEE stop being happy when your favourite player wins
+ Show Spoiler +
ZEST IS BEST
shell
Profile Joined October 2010
Portugal2722 Posts
July 25 2017 10:51 GMT
#36
good for him!

Another excellent event by TaKe !

Congrats dude you are amazing.. only watched a little bit but it was entertaining as hell :D

thank you
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Jenia6109
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
Russian Federation1613 Posts
July 25 2017 13:47 GMT
#37
Zest is Zerg
INnoVation TY Maru | Classic Stats Dear sOs Zest herO | Rogue Dark soO
GilgameshTT
Profile Joined July 2017
1 Post
Last Edited: 2017-07-25 14:03:00
July 25 2017 14:00 GMT
#38
On July 25 2017 02:20 opisska wrote:
Brace for the Zest fanboys who will milk this win for as much affirmation that Zest doesn't actually suck balls as possible. I am not sure you should even do these articles for HSC, it gives it too much ... legitimacy. It surely is the most enjoyable thing to ever watch in SC2, but as a weekender with a whole three Koreans, with the additional possibility of any player being drunk or at least hungover, it really isn't about results too much.


You are such a turd nose snotter. Any fan of Zest will be happy he won and get excited because he IS not performing at his best recently but now you want to piss on that parade because you are what, SALTY? or just an asshole in general? go back to playing tetris you jerk. If you cannot take a loss you don't deserve to be able to comment on a loss and if you are just an asshole you should just leave because nobody likes a salty asshole jerk nose "bloed poes".

PS. I just created this account so you can hear what a jerk you are. ban me/remove the comment if you want too TL, I don't mind, but please wait for while so this jerk can know he is a butt breath

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Makro
Profile Joined March 2011
France16890 Posts
July 25 2017 15:57 GMT
#39
that thread went exactly as i expected
Matthew 5:10 "Blessed are those who are persecuted because of shitposting, for theirs is the kingdom of heaven".
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Fango
Profile Joined July 2016
United Kingdom8987 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-07-25 17:31:39
July 25 2017 17:30 GMT
#40
On July 25 2017 12:09 Bagration wrote:
Oh snap, Liquipedia doesn't list HSC XV as a Premier event anymore


I don't think the prize pool is enough to justify it

On July 25 2017 11:02 Shellshock wrote:
zest is back to peak form imo


He demonstrated it. But unless he maintains the level he showed vs ByuN I'm not saying he's a king again. Although he did kingslay gumiho
Zest, sOs, PartinG, Dark, and Maru are the real champs. ROOT_herO is overrated. Snute, Serral, and Scarlett are the foreigner GOATs
Scarlett`
Profile Joined April 2011
Canada2393 Posts
July 25 2017 20:13 GMT
#41
On July 25 2017 02:20 opisska wrote:
Brace for the Zest fanboys who will milk this win for as much affirmation that Zest doesn't actually suck balls as possible. I am not sure you should even do these articles for HSC, it gives it too much ... legitimacy. It surely is the most enjoyable thing to ever watch in SC2, but as a weekender with a whole three Koreans, with the additional possibility of any player being drunk or at least hungover, it really isn't about results too much.

still harder than WCS events
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imre
Profile Blog Joined November 2011
France9263 Posts
July 26 2017 09:11 GMT
#42
On July 25 2017 02:20 opisska wrote:
Brace for the Zest fanboys who will milk this win for as much affirmation that Zest doesn't actually suck balls as possible. I am not sure you should even do these articles for HSC, it gives it too much ... legitimacy. It surely is the most enjoyable thing to ever watch in SC2, but as a weekender with a whole three Koreans, with the additional possibility of any player being drunk or at least hungover, it really isn't about results too much.


Or you could go there and check how serious most players are about their games instead of spilling bullshit on the internet.
Zest fanboy.
pvsnp
Profile Joined January 2017
7676 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-07-26 19:38:08
July 26 2017 19:34 GMT
#43
My god, what a shitshow. Some people randomly demonizing Zest, other people randomly deifying Zest. All morons.

Zest played far better than he has been for most of 2017. He has made a big comeback at HSC, as shown by his victories over ByuN and Gumiho. No idea how people can deny that. At the same time, HSC is nowhere near GSL, ByuN is not one of the best Terrans in 2017, and Gumiho has always suffered from inconsistency. No idea how people can deny that either.

With this victory, Zest has gone from "complete garbage" to "pretty good." He still has a long road ahead of him if he wants to regain his status as one of the best players around.

Still, I'm inclined to let the Zest fans celebrate, since they've had nothing to be happy about for most of the year. Fans always think better of their favored player than is actually true, that's normal. It's both petty and spiteful to try and smear their moment of joy.
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