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cannedbeans
32 Posts
Heck, what ever happened to ... (insert favorite caster here). --- continuation of BW forums: What ever happened to Moletrap? | ||
slit
Spain212 Posts
Apparently he's long-term procrastinating casting-side and playing some fun games with old (Bronze League Heroes) partner Sinvicta | ||
EESCLuna
Spain53 Posts
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brickrd
United States4894 Posts
it seems obvious that he just lost his motivation to put out his own content and doesnt want to disappoint his many loyal fans by spelling it out for them. i don't blame him, as when he stopped uploading he started getting a lot of ridiculous rage comments about how he had "betrayed starcraft" and stuff like that. fame can be a bitch | ||
brickrd
United States4894 Posts
On July 02 2017 06:48 EESCLuna wrote: He just stopped doing sc2 media when it started to fall after HOTS realase. as day9 did. not accurate and not sure what youre basing this on. he had a popular lets play type channel where he played other games, and he stopped making content for that channel too. you can't just assume the reason is deadgaem and speak for another person | ||
Psyonic_Reaver
United States4332 Posts
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/brood-war/523288-what-happened-to-moletrap | ||
Cyro
United Kingdom20278 Posts
On July 02 2017 06:48 brickrd wrote: from what i understand he has a girlfriend with a successful youtube channel and he slowly drifted away from making SC content so he could focus more on her career it seems obvious that he just lost his motivation to put out his own content and doesnt want to disappoint his many loyal fans by spelling it out for them. i don't blame him, as when he stopped uploading he started getting a lot of ridiculous rage comments about how he had "betrayed starcraft" and stuff like that. fame can be a bitch HDstarcraft stopped uploading in the middle of a series, he just said come back for game 3 and then never posted another video.. it's very odd | ||
Aron Times
United States312 Posts
Day9 now plays a variety of games, including DotA 2. The way Day9 plays DotA 2 on Twitch reminds me of how his Day9 Dailies used to be, and how enthusiastic he was to play the game. If you didn't know what DotA 2 was, you might've assumed that it was a Starcraft 2 expansion due to how cheerful Day9 is when playing it. | ||
Fango
United Kingdom8987 Posts
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LongShot27
United States2084 Posts
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207aicila
1237 Posts
On July 02 2017 12:31 LongShot27 wrote: Well the community treated him like shit. Like, people made fun of him for casting, for no other reason than they didn't like the way he casted, that he got invited to MLG over their favorite casters, stuff like that. It got really bad in late 2012, early 2013, when hots was coming out, people ripped into him for not being a real caster, or a real gamer, or not only doing SC2. It was really ugly. He stopped appearing at events then stopped making content all together, he started managing his girlfriends productions so he went to that full time. This is super true and a lot of people tend to overlook it. Probably a big reason why a lot of other casters and content creators also got less and less involved with SC2 as time went on. Ask about them today, especially on /r/starcraft, and most of the answers will say "dolla dolla bill yo"... well no, turns out people don't appreciate being shit on for no reason by anons who let's face it most of the time don't even have the credentials to hate in the first place. Even Day[9] who competed in BW at a higher level than 95% of people on this forum have ever competed in their lives at anything, and who provided such a wealth of information and entertainment and helpful positivity for years. Even he was targeted by all kinds of nonsense conspiracies that he's only in it for the money (that's why it took him 5 years to get into DotA 2 right?) or that he's a super fake person, or that he's actually an asshole IRL etc. Started of course by nobodies who have never achieved anything and likely haven't even played BW. And then people wonder why he slowly distanced himself from SC2 and have the audacity to call him a sellout. Same goes for many others. I'm genuinely impressed that TotalBiscuit continues to support this scene with events and money from time to time, given how much flak he caught from irrelevant shits-for-brains over the years. Despite doing more for the benefit of this game's competitive scene (and PC gaming in general) than all of them combined times a million. You would imagine that SC2's community being smaller than LoL/DotA 2/CS:GO etc. and the game being mechanically harder to get into would be a bit of a blessing when it comes to keeping stupid children out. But as it turns out that hasn't been the case. | ||
BronzeKnee
United States5214 Posts
On July 02 2017 12:31 LongShot27 wrote: Well the community treated him like shit. Like, people made fun of him for casting, for no other reason than they didn't like the way he casted, that he got invited to MLG over their favorite casters, stuff like that. It got really bad in late 2012, early 2013, when hots was coming out, people ripped into him for not being a real caster, or a real gamer, or not only doing SC2. It was really ugly. He stopped appearing at events then stopped making content all together, he started managing his girlfriends productions so he went to that full time. Yeah, but everyone gets crap from everyone, and it increases exponentially the more successful you get. I strongly doubt he cared at all. But he did bet SC2 had a bleak future so he jumped ship. Sadly, he didn't bet wrong. | ||
Sapphire.lux
Romania2620 Posts
On July 02 2017 12:59 207aicila wrote: Show nested quote + On July 02 2017 12:31 LongShot27 wrote: Well the community treated him like shit. Like, people made fun of him for casting, for no other reason than they didn't like the way he casted, that he got invited to MLG over their favorite casters, stuff like that. It got really bad in late 2012, early 2013, when hots was coming out, people ripped into him for not being a real caster, or a real gamer, or not only doing SC2. It was really ugly. He stopped appearing at events then stopped making content all together, he started managing his girlfriends productions so he went to that full time. This is super true and a lot of people tend to overlook it. Probably a big reason why a lot of other casters and content creators also got less and less involved with SC2 as time went on. Ask about them today, especially on /r/starcraft, and most of the answers will say "dolla dolla bill yo"... well no, turns out people don't appreciate being shit on for no reason by anons who let's face it most of the time don't even have the credentials to hate in the first place. Even Day[9] who competed in BW at a higher level than 95% of people on this forum have ever competed in their lives at anything, and who provided such a wealth of information and entertainment and helpful positivity for years. Even he was targeted by all kinds of nonsense conspiracies that he's only in it for the money (that's why it took him 5 years to get into DotA 2 right?) or that he's a super fake person, or that he's actually an asshole IRL etc. Started of course by nobodies who have never achieved anything and likely haven't even played BW. And then people wonder why he slowly distanced himself from SC2 and have the audacity to call him a sellout. Same goes for many others. I'm genuinely impressed that TotalBiscuit continues to support this scene with events and money from time to time, given how much flak he caught from irrelevant shits-for-brains over the years. Despite doing more for the benefit of this game's competitive scene (and PC gaming in general) than all of them combined times a million. You would imagine that SC2's community being smaller than LoL/DotA 2/CS:GO etc. and the game being mechanically harder to get into would be a bit of a blessing when it comes to keeping stupid children out. But as it turns out that hasn't been the case. It's not just kids though. I don't think some people realise how much influence they can have on a person when they make stupid and hateful comments. That being said, i don't buy the hurt feelings argument being THE reason. For Day9 he said it himself, time invested relative to views (money) is very bad for SC2 as compared to other games. He put in a lot of work in his SC2 content so that makes sense. There maybe not being so much love for the game accentuated the problem, he'll be back with BW:R i'm sure. About TB i'd like to remind you who started one of the most unfair criticism campaigns i'v ever seen, and it wasn't a "nobody" but a couple of very popular community figures that had huge influence over the community. This was the first time i remember arguments of "he's in it for the money/ he's fake" came up. Come to think of it i'm not gonna name them because it's a long time past and all is good now. One other aspect is that some popular figures have left without ever giving any form of goodbye or closure, so to speak. This makes people feel hurt, betrayed and it leads to bad feelings and more nasty stuff being said. Childish maybe, but it is what it is. | ||
LongShot27
United States2084 Posts
On July 02 2017 13:35 Sapphire.lux wrote: Show nested quote + On July 02 2017 12:59 207aicila wrote: On July 02 2017 12:31 LongShot27 wrote: Well the community treated him like shit. Like, people made fun of him for casting, for no other reason than they didn't like the way he casted, that he got invited to MLG over their favorite casters, stuff like that. It got really bad in late 2012, early 2013, when hots was coming out, people ripped into him for not being a real caster, or a real gamer, or not only doing SC2. It was really ugly. He stopped appearing at events then stopped making content all together, he started managing his girlfriends productions so he went to that full time. This is super true and a lot of people tend to overlook it. Probably a big reason why a lot of other casters and content creators also got less and less involved with SC2 as time went on. Ask about them today, especially on /r/starcraft, and most of the answers will say "dolla dolla bill yo"... well no, turns out people don't appreciate being shit on for no reason by anons who let's face it most of the time don't even have the credentials to hate in the first place. Even Day[9] who competed in BW at a higher level than 95% of people on this forum have ever competed in their lives at anything, and who provided such a wealth of information and entertainment and helpful positivity for years. Even he was targeted by all kinds of nonsense conspiracies that he's only in it for the money (that's why it took him 5 years to get into DotA 2 right?) or that he's a super fake person, or that he's actually an asshole IRL etc. Started of course by nobodies who have never achieved anything and likely haven't even played BW. And then people wonder why he slowly distanced himself from SC2 and have the audacity to call him a sellout. Same goes for many others. I'm genuinely impressed that TotalBiscuit continues to support this scene with events and money from time to time, given how much flak he caught from irrelevant shits-for-brains over the years. Despite doing more for the benefit of this game's competitive scene (and PC gaming in general) than all of them combined times a million. You would imagine that SC2's community being smaller than LoL/DotA 2/CS:GO etc. and the game being mechanically harder to get into would be a bit of a blessing when it comes to keeping stupid children out. But as it turns out that hasn't been the case. It's not just kids though. I don't think some people realise how much influence they can have on a person when they make stupid and hateful comments. That being said, i don't buy the hurt feelings argument being THE reason. For Day9 he said it himself, time invested relative to views (money) is very bad for SC2 as compared to other games. He put in a lot of work in his SC2 content so that makes sense. There maybe not being so much love for the game accentuated the problem, he'll be back with BW:R i'm sure. About TB i'd like to remind you who started one of the most unfair criticism campaigns i'v ever seen, and it wasn't a "nobody" but a couple of very popular community figures that had huge influence over the community. This was the first time i remember arguments of "he's in it for the money/ he's fake" came up. Come to think of it i'm not gonna name them because it's a long time past and all is good now. One other aspect is that some popular figures have left without ever giving any form of goodbye or closure, so to speak. This makes people feel hurt, betrayed and it leads to bad feelings and more nasty stuff being said. Childish maybe, but it is what it is. | ||
LongShot27
United States2084 Posts
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Sapphire.lux
Romania2620 Posts
On July 02 2017 13:43 LongShot27 wrote: It wasn't just stupid hateful shit like, "you suck" or "leave the community" People wrote articles and bitched and moaned on forums about how bad he and other people were. People petitioned organizers not to have certain casters just because they didn't like them. This community gets to such a shit level so often, then we complain when people retire. Yeah, it depends on how you express yourself. I think it's ok to say you like caster x and not caster y. Husky was a youtuber first and he had his fans on the channel. It seems a bit silly to me that he should completely abandon SC2 because he wasn't also appreciated as a live event caster. I think he just changed his priorities in life and that's ok. | ||
franzji
United States581 Posts
On July 02 2017 13:35 Sapphire.lux wrote: Show nested quote + On July 02 2017 12:59 207aicila wrote: On July 02 2017 12:31 LongShot27 wrote: Well the community treated him like shit. Like, people made fun of him for casting, for no other reason than they didn't like the way he casted, that he got invited to MLG over their favorite casters, stuff like that. It got really bad in late 2012, early 2013, when hots was coming out, people ripped into him for not being a real caster, or a real gamer, or not only doing SC2. It was really ugly. He stopped appearing at events then stopped making content all together, he started managing his girlfriends productions so he went to that full time. This is super true and a lot of people tend to overlook it. Probably a big reason why a lot of other casters and content creators also got less and less involved with SC2 as time went on. Ask about them today, especially on /r/starcraft, and most of the answers will say "dolla dolla bill yo"... well no, turns out people don't appreciate being shit on for no reason by anons who let's face it most of the time don't even have the credentials to hate in the first place. Even Day[9] who competed in BW at a higher level than 95% of people on this forum have ever competed in their lives at anything, and who provided such a wealth of information and entertainment and helpful positivity for years. Even he was targeted by all kinds of nonsense conspiracies that he's only in it for the money (that's why it took him 5 years to get into DotA 2 right?) or that he's a super fake person, or that he's actually an asshole IRL etc. Started of course by nobodies who have never achieved anything and likely haven't even played BW. And then people wonder why he slowly distanced himself from SC2 and have the audacity to call him a sellout. Same goes for many others. I'm genuinely impressed that TotalBiscuit continues to support this scene with events and money from time to time, given how much flak he caught from irrelevant shits-for-brains over the years. Despite doing more for the benefit of this game's competitive scene (and PC gaming in general) than all of them combined times a million. You would imagine that SC2's community being smaller than LoL/DotA 2/CS:GO etc. and the game being mechanically harder to get into would be a bit of a blessing when it comes to keeping stupid children out. But as it turns out that hasn't been the case. It's not just kids though. I don't think some people realise how much influence they can have on a person when they make stupid and hateful comments. That being said, i don't buy the hurt feelings argument being THE reason. For Day9 he said it himself, time invested relative to views (money) is very bad for SC2 as compared to other games. He put in a lot of work in his SC2 content so that makes sense. There maybe not being so much love for the game accentuated the problem, he'll be back with BW:R i'm sure. About TB i'd like to remind you who started one of the most unfair criticism campaigns i'v ever seen, and it wasn't a "nobody" but a couple of very popular community figures that had huge influence over the community. This was the first time i remember arguments of "he's in it for the money/ he's fake" came up. Come to think of it i'm not gonna name them because it's a long time past and all is good now. One other aspect is that some popular figures have left without ever giving any form of goodbye or closure, so to speak. This makes people feel hurt, betrayed and it leads to bad feelings and more nasty stuff being said. Childish maybe, but it is what it is. This is really well said and it's really unfortunate that we have lost good content creators. I hate threads like this now because a lot of people say have hurt feelings, miss people and want them back, or act so entitled about people leaving them "for money". casters/video makers owe you nothing, and if they move on people should too. | ||
Kaizor
Singapore909 Posts
It's been a long time since i saw that video but i think he said that's why he was taking a break to recuperate. But yeah he probably moved on after that and never came back. Hey a lot of people don't think too highly of Husky, but before teamliquid.net, me and many other people got into SC2 because of his videos. He was a huge reason why many people watch SC2 on youtube. | ||
starkiller123
United States4029 Posts
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reneg
United States859 Posts
On July 02 2017 14:41 Kaizor wrote: It must be quite a few years back when there was a video in which Husky explained that he had a health issue with his throat and his doctor told him it was mainly because of how he was casting. If you have ever seen or heard Husky cast, you probably know why. It's been a long time since i saw that video but i think he said that's why he was taking a break to recuperate. But yeah he probably moved on after that and never came back. Hey a lot of people don't think too highly of Husky, but before teamliquid.net, me and many other people got into SC2 because of his videos. He was a huge reason why many people watch SC2 on youtube. I don't remember hearing anything like that. On July 02 2017 12:31 LongShot27 wrote: Well the community treated him like shit. Like, people made fun of him for casting, for no other reason than they didn't like the way he casted, that he got invited to MLG over their favorite casters, stuff like that. It got really bad in late 2012, early 2013, when hots was coming out, people ripped into him for not being a real caster, or a real gamer, or not only doing SC2. It was really ugly. He stopped appearing at events then stopped making content all together, he started managing his girlfriends productions so he went to that full time. This, however, I do remember. | ||
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