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Korea Weekly - April 30 - SSL Showdown & GSL Continues

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April 30th, 2017 12:54 GMT
  • Korea Weekly
  • Weekly Focus
  • Mercurial Zest


The Weekly Preview

by Olli
[image loading] - TL_Olli


With the latest VSL campaign complete, and the GSL barely awoken from its inter-season slumber, things might seem quiet on the Korean front. Dreamhack Austin is dominating the Starcraft headlines this weekend, and yet things are as competitive as ever in the motherland. This week, the SSL is the big story—we get to see our first matches in Stage 2 of the Challenge division, while entering the final straight of the SSL Premier group stages.


soO Goes Again

After what must have been a heartbreaking 5th GSL Finals defeat, (Z)soO is back in action this week in Code S. His group looks manageable, with (P)Trust and (P)Trap the underdogs against the finalist and (Z)Solar. We've all seen soO bounce back from defeat multiple times, but it'll be interesting to see how he handles this one, since it did come separated from the rest. Perhaps by now, losing in grand finals might not affect soO as much anymore - a cruel sort of routine. Perhaps it has had an even greater impact now than ever before. We shall see. How he performs will not only tell us about his state of mind, however. It may also show us what the way forward for him is. Defeat can turn into motivation just as easily as it can lead to the opposite. The way soO shows up may tell us whether or not he has it in him to reach the big stage again. His level of play last season was definitely up to par, and he was outdone only by the then best player in the world. Can he do it again?


Patiently Climbing

It's been said too many times by now, but (P)Patience might be the most underrated player in Korea. This month alone he's defeated (Z)ByuL, (T)GuMiho, (P)Zest a bunch of times, (T)INnoVation, (T)ByuN and (P)herO. To say that Patience is capable of beating even the very best on his day is not doing him justice anymore. Patience is now beating them quite regularly. I have him down as the favorite in his Code S group on Saturday. Picking Patience over (T)TY and (Z)Rogue would have been ridiculed not so long ago, but Patience has proven his mettle. (T)Bunny completes the group, but the opening match may just decide the group winner, as TY and Patience face off first, and given TY's recent showings, I favor Patience.

Is Patience championship material in Korea? That's a tough question to answer. He has earned himself a championship at the last HomeStory Cup, but that tournament is obviously completely different to the grueling multi-month seasons in Korea. I'm unsure whether Patience has the preparation side down yet that is undoubtedly necessary to succeed in Korea. His performance in Group F might give us some clues.


Zest vs Maru

If only it were 2014. A match between these two players used to be among the most exciting happenings in Korea, and it wasn't so rare either. Nineteen times they've played against each other, with (P)Zest leading their head-to-head map score by 18 to 15. (T)Maru has, however, won one more series (10-9). That shows just how much of a rivalry used to be here when both these giants were at the top of their game, leading the line for their respective team in Proleague. Now, however, the clash of these two just isn't the same anymore. Zest has fallen so far, he's barely recognizable anymore. Maru, albeit not as poor at the moment, is a shadow of his former self as well. Usually you would expect a match between these two to decide who wins a competition, but this one will not. Instead, Maru and Zest sit in 8th and 9th place in SSL respectively, struggling to stay afloat at all. Qualification for playoff spots is a very unrealistic prospect for both of them; this is mainly about saving face now. Let's hope better times await them both. They're much better than what they're showing at the moment.


SSL Challenge - A Fresh Start

While there’s no traditional prize on offer in this latest iteration of the SSL Challenge—no trophies, no hefty cheque—that’s not to say that there’s nothing of value to be won. Stage 2 of the SSL Challenge brings with it four possible seeds for the next season of the SSL Premier (one direct seed for the top-ranked player in this coming round robin, and three spots in the upcoming Fast Lane), while the bottom two players will be eliminated from the competition, and forced to re-qualify for next season’s SSL Challenge. So now we’re entering a crucial five-week period. With no info on whether the SSL will continue into 2018 (or even whether they’d keep this format and seeding ticking over), qualifying for Season 2 of the SSL Challenge could potentially be pretty meaningless in the big picture—with neither money nor seeding spots on the line. That means that finishing in the top 4 is absolutely vital for any player with even a modicum of ambition.

With Losira gone, it’s only protoss and terran from here, and opening week should see two heavy hitters off to good starts. (P)herO has blown through the SSL with ease—4-0 so far, winning PvTs against GuMiho, jjakji, and ByuN (not to mention his terran-slaughter in the Super Tournament either)—and (T)Ryung is by far the least demanding opponent he could’ve drawn first up here save (P)Dear.

Speaking of Dear, (T)TY should similarly be expected to beat him with ease—ignoring his swift 0-3 exit at the hands of a cheesy herO in the Super Tournament, TY has looked pretty decent in TvP recently—especially in his 4-0 display in GSLTV’s Race Wars tournament last week against Classic, herO and Stats (x2). That leaves the sole 50/50 matchup as (T)ByuN vs (P)Classic. Both have shown as many flaws recently as strengths, and while the strength of ByuN’s TvP play in the teamleague portion of the VSL perhaps gives him a slight advantage, Classic’s unpredictability means that this should be a match to watch.

Weekly Schedule:

Mon - SSL Premier - sOs vs Dark / Solar vs Patience / INnoVation vs ByuL / Stats vs aLive / Zest vs Maru
Wed - GSL Ro.32 Group E - soO / Trust / Trap / Solar
Sat - GSL Ro.32 Group F - TY / Patience / Rogue / Bunny
Sat - SSL Challenge - herO vs Ryung / ByuN vs Classic / Dear vs TY




SSL Premier

by munch
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In contrast to the SSL Challenge, where players are fighting for the opportunity to prove their skills on the main stage in the coming months, the SSL Premier is where it’s happening right now. If anyone’s still confused about the format, here’s a quick primer:

  • The top 4 will advance to the Postseason playoffs. This will take a similar form to Proleague playoffs in 2015-16—i.e. 3rd plays 4th in match 1, before the winner advances to face the second ranked player, before the SSL reaches its conclusion in the Grand Final.
  • #5 will retain his spot in next season’s SSL Premier.
  • #6 - #8 will be placed in the Fast Lane. This is similar in spirit to the old GSL Up&Downs, but takes the form of two GSL-style groups instead of the old round robin approach. The top 2 from both groups advance into next season’s SSL Premier, with one quirk—the bottom 2 from Group 1 are given a second chance and are seeded into Group 2. With #6 and #7 being placed in Group 1, and #8 in Group 2, that gives #6 and #7 two chances to advance to Premier compared to #8’s one.
  • #9 - #10 will drop to the SSL Challenge.


Make sense? In essence, all that matters then are those boundaries—finishing in the top 4, in 5th, and outside the bottom 2. So, with only three weeks to go, let’s take a look at how our contestants this season are stacking up.




Top 4

Four players stand out from the crowd so far—INnoVation, Patience, and Solar on 4-2 records, and ByuL out by himself on 5-1. What makes this week extra juicy is that all four play each other this week—ByuL takes on INnoVation, while Patience goes up against Solar. It’s a double edged sword—they all have the opportunity to open up a gap at the top of the table, while risking the danger of being dropped back into the chasing pack. ByuL in particular has the chance to all but guarantee his playoffs spot at 6-1, but getting past a player with a 73% winrate in TvZ since February (and a 30-5 map record against zergs not named Dark) is going to be tricky to say the least. At his peak, ByuL had as dominant a grip on ZvT as any zerg that’s come before or since, and he’ll need some of that old magic to keep his SSL streak going. Meanwhile, as Olli mentioned in the previous section, Patience has done enough in the past few months for us not to be shocked by his ‘surprise’ wins any more. While that’s true, that doesn’t necessarily mean that we should expect them either, and Solar still probably edges him out as the favourite in their bout.


3-3-3

Next, we’ve got the three tied on 3-3 records. It’s somewhat strange to see them here—Stats and Dark would’ve been earmarked for success here following the former’s GSL title, and the latter’s dominance in 2016., while aLive’s been one of the hottest players of 2017 so far—but at 3-3 they’re still well within striking distance of the top 4 should they put a streak together.

Unfortunately, that won’t be possible for at least one of them. Much like those in the top 4, it’s a crucial week for Stats and aLive, and both players have been surprisingly poor in the matchup of late. aLive hasn’t impressed at all in the matchup—see his complete lack of adaptability when confronted by herO’s adept barrage in the Super Tournament, for example, and he’s clocked up a whole set of losses online as of late as well. Meanwhile, Stats’ results have dropped off a cliff since his GSL title—just compare a winrate of 61% pre-GSL Final, compared to 50% after (despite the small sample size). PvT has been a particular problem, beaten soundly in the opening match of the Super Tournament by GuMiho, in GSLTV’s Race Wars by TY and INnoVation, and in the VSL this week by ByuN. Sure, those are probably the four finest TvPers in Korea right now, and it’s perfectly fine and understandable to take a bit of a break after eight years of hard work finally led to a career-defining reward, but it’s time for him to get back to business.


The Bottom of the Barrel

So far, we’ve gone through seven players who’ve shown that they belong at this level. Now, here are the three who, on current evidence, don’t. sOs and Zest have looked like shadows of their former selves—both stuck on 1-5 records and all but consigned to relegation. They both face tough run-ins (Dark, INnoVation, and Patience for sOs; Maru, aLive, and Dark for Zest), and it would take a miracle for either to pick up the three wins required for them to even stand a chance of retaining their spot in Premier.

Maru has flared up on occasion—particularly impressive in his 2-0 win over Solar a couple weeks back—but he too has looked a clear tier below the rest of the competition on recent form. Unlike the other two, he possibly has a clear shot at survival—a very winnable match against Zest, a coinflip to see what difficulty Patience is tuned to, and a tough last-day decider against ByuL are all that separate him from redemption.




Mercurial Zest

by Zealously
[image loading] - TL_Zealously


Pardon the late introduction, but welcome to Bizarro World. aLive just advanced in GSL, another stone lain on his endless road to a place none of us can see. What's worse, he was all but expected to advance alongside GuMiho. If that isn't enough of a callback to a bygone age for you, they were touted as favorites over Zest. Actually, wait, hold the horses, that has probably never happened before. aLive and favorite aren't words that tend to go together, anymore than the words Zest and awful (E/N:
. Case closed
).

Now granted, the many-time champion has not been his dominant self of late, and trends mostly downward in a worryingly steep manner. To say that he has been bad of late would not be a gross insult to the play he has demonstrated, nor an affront against the very minimal results he has posted. A slump, you might call it, only it has afflicted a player whose defining attributes are stability and polish. What, you might ask, can he do to regain his footing? Evidently, he has lost it, and it has been a while since he was forced to work for even the admission into the ignoble hall of "decent player".

But Zest's stumble from glory into repeated embarrassment does not necessarily have to be a bad thing long term. It might seem absurd to get excited for a player's future prospects when they have seldom looked worse, when they seem capable of such gyrations in level of play that nausea and confusion are our first reactions. Zest is a player whose name seems glued to the top layer. A single look at his trophy cabinet confirms that. So when he falls not only from the championship tier, but tumbles through the floor, it makes sense to wonder what the hell has happened.

All the simple answers are probably bogus. And unless Zest is calling it quits in the weeks to come, the reasons for his plummet are none so interesting as what he can make of that gut-wrenching dip in form. It may seem counter-intuitive, but I am firmly of the belief that no star is made without periods of indisputable bad performance. It holds true in sports in nearly every imaginable case -- if the dips aren't to be found before an athlete's ascent, then they will be found when they struggle to cement their legacy -- and it has proven true in Starcraft all the same. Mvp found the true extent of his potential when his body began to fail him, pushing himself into territory we legitimately couldn't imagine he would ever chart. Marineking burst of dominance came long after his first heartbreaking GSLs, and even though he is often remembered as a perennial runner-up he was characterized by grit (and greed). Patience spent years as basically nobody before he blitzed Korea to buy himself a spot at Blizzcon.

These players, and countless others, are united in the very reasonable but still horrifying realization that success is rarely a straight line, and that adversity often appears many times more momentuous and difficult to overcome than achieving those incremental victories. In a roundabout way, this is to say that the same will hold true for Zest. Dual 0-2 losses against Creator and GuMiho in the league where he has reaped many of his greatest successes might serve to spur him, or they might push him to the realization that something in his play or his routine must change. Zest is in a state of unknowability, and it's hard to say what will happen next. If all it takes is practice, then extending his record against Creator to an interesting 0-5 might have been what it took to ignite the fire. If there is more to it, then having the weaknesses he displays in areas where he has normally been rock solid, decision making and macro management alike, could be a foundation for working out more numerous problems in his play itself.

I realize that this all sounds like idle speculation, fueled by the desire to see one of the best players ever to grace Starcraft II take back his turf. Perhaps. But very few players have dropped from the top to never even make another dent, and I cannot imagine Zest doing so either. In this mercurial phase he is in, we can only wait and see if he will reach out for the lofty goals he established years ago. On the level on which these players compete, it is not the victories that inspire change, it is the defeats—and a Zest who is defeated does not need to concede final defeat.





Korea Weekly: Olli
Focus: munch
Editorial: Zealously
Graphics: shiroiusagi
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Elentos
Profile Blog Joined February 2015
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April 30 2017 13:11 GMT
#2
That's the wrong GSL group for Saturday
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munch
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April 30 2017 13:24 GMT
#3
oops
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FrostedMiniWheats
Profile Joined August 2010
United States30730 Posts
April 30 2017 18:25 GMT
#4
I fear for ByuL. Sitting pretty at the top now, but unlike everyone else, he banked the hardest opponents for the end. Pretty much the 3 best vZ players in Korea are up next.

Hope he can somehow still get the grand final seed ;;
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Elentos
Profile Blog Joined February 2015
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April 30 2017 18:26 GMT
#5
On May 01 2017 03:25 FrostedMiniWheats wrote:
I fear for ByuL. Sitting pretty at the top now, but unlike everyone else, he banked the hardest opponents for the end. Pretty much the 3 best vZ players in Korea are up next.

Hope he can somehow still get the grand final seed ;;

Look on the bright side. If he doesn't stay in first, we won't know who takes 2nd place until it's time.
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Fango
Profile Joined July 2016
United Kingdom8987 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-04-30 21:54:11
April 30 2017 21:50 GMT
#6
How come Maru always gets talked down on in these. He killed Dark soO and Solar earlier in Race Wars but he still gets put in the same boat as Zest? His only big losses in SSL are to the hardest players in it (inno and stats).

I mean everyone puts TY on the top terran list, but other than winning Katowice, whats he done to be so great when him and Maru have similar performances right now
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starkiller123
Profile Joined January 2016
United States4030 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-04-30 21:57:02
April 30 2017 21:56 GMT
#7
On May 01 2017 06:50 Fango wrote:
How come Maru always gets talked down on in these. He killed Dark soO and Solar earlier in Race Wars but he still gets put in the same boat as Zest? His only big losses in SSL are to the hardest players in it (inno and stats).

I mean everyone puts TY on the top terran list, but other than winning Katowice, whats he done to be so great when him and Maru have similar performances right now


He hasn't won anything since 2015

but yeah he is not nearly as bad as Zest right now
Elentos
Profile Blog Joined February 2015
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April 30 2017 22:00 GMT
#8
On May 01 2017 06:50 Fango wrote:
How come Maru always gets talked down on in these. He killed Dark soO and Solar earlier in Race Wars but he still gets put in the same boat as Zest? His only big losses in SSL are to the hardest players in it (inno and stats).

It's an article about SSL Premier. Where he's 2 wins, 4 losses, negative 3 in maps, and down in 8th place. He doesn't deserve much better. And the article acknowledges that he's not doing as poorly as Zest (which realistically, only sOs is).
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The_Red_Viper
Profile Blog Joined August 2013
19533 Posts
April 30 2017 22:15 GMT
#9
I hope you are right Zealously, and i believe you are Zest surely will come back, i just hope it's sooner rather than later.
Especially now that there is no weekly proleague going on, you have to motivate yourself through other means.
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FrostedMiniWheats
Profile Joined August 2010
United States30730 Posts
April 30 2017 23:00 GMT
#10
On May 01 2017 07:00 Elentos wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 01 2017 06:50 Fango wrote:
How come Maru always gets talked down on in these. He killed Dark soO and Solar earlier in Race Wars but he still gets put in the same boat as Zest? His only big losses in SSL are to the hardest players in it (inno and stats).

It's an article about SSL Premier. Where he's 2 wins, 4 losses, negative 3 in maps, and down in 8th place. He doesn't deserve much better. And the article acknowledges that he's not doing as poorly as Zest (which realistically, only sOs is).


Comments were also made about Maru's general form:

Maru, albeit not as poor at the moment, is a shadow of his former self as well.


Which I'd agree with Fango aren't fair. Maru has maintained top-tier stats so far in 2017. As far as results go, he made a ro8 in the GSL last season and almost won WESG where he didn't drop a map until he hit TY. With regards purely to SSL, you also have to factor in who he's lost to so far: Bogus, aLive, Stats, and Dark. All losses that carry no shame. He could easily go 3-0 from here, putting him at 5-4 for the season.

Zest, on the other hand, is likely going to go 0-3 and finish the season 1-8. He has gone out in the ro32 in both seasons of GSL as well and hasn't made a dent anywhere else.

I'd say Maru deserves quite a bit better.
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Argonauta
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Spain4967 Posts
April 30 2017 23:47 GMT
#11
I love this new SSL format, where the perfomance over time is evaluated rather than the one time peak of the GSL. This gives players more chances to shine and not get caught by one time build or having to play day after patch.
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pvsnp
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May 01 2017 00:24 GMT
#12
Maru isn't slumping nearly as hard as Zest, true, but claiming he's a top Terran right now doesn't have a ton of justification. With his current form, aLive has a better claim to that status than Maru.

Of the Four Horsemen, INnoVation has the form and TY has the results. But what exactly have Maru/ByuN accomplished recently?
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FrostedMiniWheats
Profile Joined August 2010
United States30730 Posts
May 01 2017 02:12 GMT
#13
On May 01 2017 08:47 Argonauta wrote:
I love this new SSL format, where the perfomance over time is evaluated rather than the one time peak of the GSL. This gives players more chances to shine and not get caught by one time build or having to play day after patch.


I agree. I love this format.

Wish gsl would make a change as well. Not necessarily to this format, but rather adopt the OSL's way of doing the ro16 to keep it distinct but also more suspenseful.
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starkiller123
Profile Joined January 2016
United States4030 Posts
May 01 2017 02:35 GMT
#14
On May 01 2017 11:12 FrostedMiniWheats wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 01 2017 08:47 Argonauta wrote:
I love this new SSL format, where the perfomance over time is evaluated rather than the one time peak of the GSL. This gives players more chances to shine and not get caught by one time build or having to play day after patch.


I agree. I love this format.

Wish gsl would make a change as well. Not necessarily to this format, but rather adopt the OSL's way of doing the ro16 to keep it distinct but also more suspenseful.


What is the difference?
FrostedMiniWheats
Profile Joined August 2010
United States30730 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-05-01 03:18:43
May 01 2017 03:16 GMT
#15
On May 01 2017 11:35 starkiller123 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 01 2017 11:12 FrostedMiniWheats wrote:
On May 01 2017 08:47 Argonauta wrote:
I love this new SSL format, where the perfomance over time is evaluated rather than the one time peak of the GSL. This gives players more chances to shine and not get caught by one time build or having to play day after patch.


I agree. I love this format.

Wish gsl would make a change as well. Not necessarily to this format, but rather adopt the OSL's way of doing the ro16 to keep it distinct but also more suspenseful.


What is the difference?


In the OSL they'd play 1 match from each ro16 group a day rather than going through an entire group in one sitting.

It's also round robin.
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Elentos
Profile Blog Joined February 2015
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Last Edited: 2017-05-01 08:09:59
May 01 2017 08:09 GMT
#16
On May 01 2017 09:24 pvsnp wrote:
Maru isn't slumping nearly as hard as Zest, true, but claiming he's a top Terran right now doesn't have a ton of justification. With his current form, aLive has a better claim to that status than Maru.

Of the Four Horsemen, INnoVation has the form and TY has the results. But what exactly have Maru/ByuN accomplished recently?

The 'Four Horsemen' thing has been BS from the very start. At least one of them is always getting outperformed by Ryung/GuMiho/aLive in terms of tournament results.
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The_Red_Viper
Profile Blog Joined August 2013
19533 Posts
May 01 2017 08:45 GMT
#17
On May 01 2017 17:09 Elentos wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 01 2017 09:24 pvsnp wrote:
Maru isn't slumping nearly as hard as Zest, true, but claiming he's a top Terran right now doesn't have a ton of justification. With his current form, aLive has a better claim to that status than Maru.

Of the Four Horsemen, INnoVation has the form and TY has the results. But what exactly have Maru/ByuN accomplished recently?

The 'Four Horsemen' thing has been BS from the very start. At least one of them is always getting outperformed by Ryung/GuMiho/aLive in terms of tournament results.

Well the thing with narratives like that is that it doesn't hold up 100% all the time. These four are hyped that much because they all showed a very high lvl of gameplay at a specific time and they are big fan favorites in general.
You are right though, in terms of pure results it might be wrong to give them a special title. But that's only part of it
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Last Edited: 2017-05-01 10:15:37
May 01 2017 10:14 GMT
#18
I don't think it's wrong to call Maru a shadow of his former self. The guy used to be referred to as "the fourth race" in Korea, someone who did things other Terrans simply couldn't. When Protoss was dominating PvT, he beat every Protoss. He was the only one to consistently beat Zest at his peak, and he challenged Life at his (late 2014, early 2015) as well. He won SSL when the level of play in Korea was, in my book, absurdly high, with a lot of players close to their very best. Now Maru is nowhere near that.
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Last Edited: 2017-05-01 14:05:28
May 01 2017 14:04 GMT
#19
On May 01 2017 19:14 Olli wrote:
I don't think it's wrong to call Maru a shadow of his former self. The guy used to be referred to as "the fourth race" in Korea, someone who did things other Terrans simply couldn't. When Protoss was dominating PvT, he beat every Protoss. He was the only one to consistently beat Zest at his peak, and he challenged Life at his (late 2014, early 2015) as well. He won SSL when the level of play in Korea was, in my book, absurdly high, with a lot of players close to their very best. Now Maru is nowhere near that.


He's still at that tier where he could beat anyone, just because he isn't the best player in Korea anymore doesn't mean he's doing bad. It just seems strange to praise guys like TY so much and put Maru in the "Zest group of slumpers".

Maru was pretty much equal with TY at WESG in terms of performance. Both choked out of gsl ro8, both carried their team in race wars etc. Maru did better at the super tournament.

The only big negative for Maru is his SSL results, but even then he's already played all the hardest opponents (inno stats dark alive). He only has the easier guys left to play
Zest, sOs, PartinG, Dark, and Maru are the real champs. ROOT_herO is overrated. Snute, Serral, and Scarlett are the foreigner GOATs
Fango
Profile Joined July 2016
United Kingdom8987 Posts
May 01 2017 14:11 GMT
#20
On May 01 2017 09:24 pvsnp wrote:
Maru isn't slumping nearly as hard as Zest, true, but claiming he's a top Terran right now doesn't have a ton of justification. With his current form, aLive has a better claim to that status than Maru.

Of the Four Horsemen, INnoVation has the form and TY has the results. But what exactly have Maru/ByuN accomplished recently?


I think that's more of them being the biggest winners. And the big names in terms of terran

The only one that's really questionable is byuN. He hasn't put out any great performances this year whereas the others have.
Maru, TY, aLive, Inno would be more appropriate.
Zest, sOs, PartinG, Dark, and Maru are the real champs. ROOT_herO is overrated. Snute, Serral, and Scarlett are the foreigner GOATs
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