Community Feedback Update - March 30 - Page 10

On April 02 2017 12:10 AnossSc2 wrote:


This is why Starcraft is dying... Because most of people who keep playing this game think 6 harvesters was to slow.. Look BW, the reference, the base of Starcraft 2, you spend 4 min to just macro and nobody complaining. You said : i don't want play 1 or 2 hours games anymore... mate, a game on LOTV last about 13 min on average, a game on HOTS last about 17 min on average, that's all it's not about 1 hours game (remember timer was X1.5 faster)

And this argument about "Casual Game". What is casual on 6 harvesters start ? You can go CC first or gas first or One rax expo or all in double rax 11 with 6 harvester, on a Bo3 it's a paper roc scissor before game start. With 12 ? only gas first ! mineral is free and gas unit come so fast why do anything else... you have gas unit AND b2 fast ! is that the casual thing ?

I remembered when Bomber was countering 15 banelings with only 23 marines ! is that the casual thing ? split is casual ? where is the splitt now ? when mines and tank come so fast...

Now you macro 4 min, at 4 min 30, you can have an Oracle, or a Cyclone, a Liberator, is that the skill ? when on 6 harvester you had to read and scout to know, did i put a bunker/sunken or not ? where is the skill now ? it's Bo against Bo and you can't read properly what do your opponent cause you can do what you want ! 8 min Carrier lol, 8 min BC rofl..

So now you execute the same build against each race, and you think the game is less casual cause you have to be faster ? faster on macro ? but macro is just a repetition, same pylon, same robotics.. and you think this is skill ? on HOTS 3 gas on Protoss, i'm sur it's a 7 gate robot, let's scan or send a reaper, what did you read now ? tell me ? you just macroing and then you attack and discover ! ok Protoss play Phoenix ! This is not skill, this is just playing.

And it's so easy to say : 6 harvester is to slow and unskilled. 90% of the people who are still play this game started on Wol/Hots. You have had more than 5 years to get used to the game, and now you think 6 harvesters is bad.. easy to think now you know how to play mate, think about you 5 years ago when you was this guy with no mechanics, and no knowledge, remembrer your first game. 6 harvester let you grow up, 12 don't.

Blizzard should not listen people like you, with no new player, you will stop to play this game like all the rest, you think you are playing the real game, but tomorrow you will speak with a BW player : I play the real game, i play Starcraft 2 ! Really ? BW player will laugh ! real game is BW bro, you will speak to your casual player friend : I play SC2 ! the real game !! and casual player will laugh ! SC2 is dead bro.. And you will change the game and go to all this game you don't like, like a lot of people. And Blizzard will think : I listened the community why people still stop playing ? Cause a lot of people think playing a inaccessible game make them smart, but it's wrong, you are smart when you are the best in a game, not cause you play a type of game. So Stop arguing this plz, Does not mix your egocentricity and the game, casual game is Sonic bro, all the E-sport game are Skill game, there is no SC2 is on the top and LOL is bullshit, it's just different game.

So IF WE LOVE STARCRAFT 2, we have to think differently, this game is not only for people like you and me who discovered it with WOL, League has a ton of new player cause player don't say : I want start level 6 cause game is boring with one spell. It's the game, this is how people can grow up. Faker is Faker after 7 min mark, before we can all play and creep like Faker, this why League work, and why Starcraft 2 don't. Think about it.

May be we should all understand, than if we don't want some new player, we will never have a great E-sport scene on Starcraft 2, so if the only argument for 12 harvesters is : The game is for the real guys who don't play Lol H1Z1 and all this shit, we will never be great again, pro player will never make some money, and game will die cause even TL one day will focus on other game. So please guys, we need to wake up, we all played on 6 harvesters, best game EVER on Starcraft 2 was on 6 harvester, we need to discuss about that.

@eonzerg you don't understand my point, Starcraft is hard to masteries and it's cool like that, the point is, when i started to play this game, it was easy to execute a 1 1 1, the difficulties was when i had to micro my hellion and continue to macro in my basement. That's why i continued to play the game, that was fun to micro and make a build, and i was thinking : I did some damage but with a better macro my damage would have been increased, so i want be a better player, i need to focus more on my macro when i attack my opponent.

Now you can't execute a 1 1 1, if you don't know the game, it's just stupid, if people don't have fun why they would continue to perform ? you stress to build a simple 1 1 1 cause it's so much APM now for a beginner and oups ! an Oracle, you die ! but play again !!! This game is so cool ! it's stupid. In my time, i just had to send a worker, no B2 since 1 min 30, ok may be it's Oracle or Blink but it's all in. I do a bunker and a Turret. Now you go heavy gas or B2, the difference on the B2 timing is 40 sec ! WOW !! with 6 collector you go heavy gas ok, the opponent B2 come 2 min after than yours. This is why now no body make some tutorial on the game, cause you need a lot of knowledge and APM even at 4 min mark... in my time, it was easy to say : at 3.35 until 5 min no B2, may be it's all in, do a bunker and a turret, now it's at 3.35 until 4.10 no B2, may be its Oracle but may be player is low... so i don't know mate ! this why nobody try to make some tutorial, cause you can't make tutorial on LOTV.

Si i don't want a Starcraft 2 easy to play, i want a Starcraft 2 Easy to play, hard to masteries, like all the other Esport game. And i dont want play Hots because HOTS was redundant due to a lack of unity, Lotv is not.

On April 04 2017 09:04 starkiller123 wrote:
People will complain no matter what, I liked the game with 6 workers and I like it now with 12