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Tresher
Profile Joined October 2011
Germany404 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-04-01 16:16:11
April 01 2017 16:14 GMT
#81
On March 31 2017 15:00 avilo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 31 2017 06:08 Charoisaur wrote:
On March 31 2017 05:57 Ketroc wrote:
On March 31 2017 05:14 Phaenoman wrote:
So it has not been known until now that hacking is a thing again?


Patch 3.0 in Oct2015 broke all the existing public maphacks beyond repair. Daed gam meant no one was interested in putting in the time to figure out how to decrypt and build another from scratch. There has been no evidence of maphack shown since then including TL's hacker thread.

But...but avilo is playing hackers every week /s


This shit is getting real tiring of people saying i accuse every single player of MHing when they are just being assholes and taking something out of context.

There have been stream sessions where i have been sniped repeatedly by the same 2-3 hackers (including that Nero guy) over the course of 10-20 games.

So i mean...there is not much i can do. If i'm playing the same hacker 4-6 games in a row on stream do you want me to say he doesn't hack? lol. I think this is why people think for some reason i accuse "so many people" of MHing they prob caught my stream during these time frames where the same hackers were sniping my stream.

Makes it even worse when they are on barcodes because then i have no fuckin clue if i'm playing a "legit" barcode or the same MHer from the last game. Those are the times you've seen me mistakingly call someone a hacker that wasn't...because they were on a goddamn barcode and that shit will put you on edge after 5+ games of being blind countered.

I do honestly think it's a huge problem in past months but everyone wants to disagree half the time without even lookin at replay evidence.

Maybe it´s because you DO accuse almost everybody of hacking? Replay evidence? Maybe you should listen to your own advice more often:


"I've accused this guy of hacking before... I don't know if he actually does." speaks volumes about you.
Extreme Force
BigFan
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
TLADT24920 Posts
April 01 2017 16:47 GMT
#82
On April 02 2017 01:14 Tresher wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 31 2017 15:00 avilo wrote:
On March 31 2017 06:08 Charoisaur wrote:
On March 31 2017 05:57 Ketroc wrote:
On March 31 2017 05:14 Phaenoman wrote:
So it has not been known until now that hacking is a thing again?


Patch 3.0 in Oct2015 broke all the existing public maphacks beyond repair. Daed gam meant no one was interested in putting in the time to figure out how to decrypt and build another from scratch. There has been no evidence of maphack shown since then including TL's hacker thread.

But...but avilo is playing hackers every week /s


This shit is getting real tiring of people saying i accuse every single player of MHing when they are just being assholes and taking something out of context.

There have been stream sessions where i have been sniped repeatedly by the same 2-3 hackers (including that Nero guy) over the course of 10-20 games.

So i mean...there is not much i can do. If i'm playing the same hacker 4-6 games in a row on stream do you want me to say he doesn't hack? lol. I think this is why people think for some reason i accuse "so many people" of MHing they prob caught my stream during these time frames where the same hackers were sniping my stream.

Makes it even worse when they are on barcodes because then i have no fuckin clue if i'm playing a "legit" barcode or the same MHer from the last game. Those are the times you've seen me mistakingly call someone a hacker that wasn't...because they were on a goddamn barcode and that shit will put you on edge after 5+ games of being blind countered.

I do honestly think it's a huge problem in past months but everyone wants to disagree half the time without even lookin at replay evidence.

Maybe it´s because you DO accuse almost everybody of hacking? Replay evidence? Maybe you should listen to your own advice more often:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Kw_IKw-Z2HE

"I've accused this guy of hacking before... I don't know if he actually does." speaks volumes about you.

funny video. Seems like this Jason fellow got his point across well lol
Former BW EiC"Watch Bakemonogatari or I will kill you." -Toad, April 18th, 2017
iNcontroL *
Profile Blog Joined July 2004
USA29055 Posts
April 01 2017 16:51 GMT
#83
that video is pretty damning -- seems 100% to me.. sad though
Blargh
Profile Joined September 2010
United States2103 Posts
April 01 2017 17:15 GMT
#84
Wait, is it just pure coincidence that the person in the video (Jason vs Avilo) is named Juggernaut, and so is the person in OP?

Am I missing something or??
DeadByDawn
Profile Joined October 2012
United Kingdom476 Posts
April 01 2017 17:31 GMT
#85
On April 02 2017 01:47 BigFan wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 02 2017 01:14 Tresher wrote:
On March 31 2017 15:00 avilo wrote:
On March 31 2017 06:08 Charoisaur wrote:
On March 31 2017 05:57 Ketroc wrote:
On March 31 2017 05:14 Phaenoman wrote:
So it has not been known until now that hacking is a thing again?


Patch 3.0 in Oct2015 broke all the existing public maphacks beyond repair. Daed gam meant no one was interested in putting in the time to figure out how to decrypt and build another from scratch. There has been no evidence of maphack shown since then including TL's hacker thread.

But...but avilo is playing hackers every week /s


This shit is getting real tiring of people saying i accuse every single player of MHing when they are just being assholes and taking something out of context.

There have been stream sessions where i have been sniped repeatedly by the same 2-3 hackers (including that Nero guy) over the course of 10-20 games.

So i mean...there is not much i can do. If i'm playing the same hacker 4-6 games in a row on stream do you want me to say he doesn't hack? lol. I think this is why people think for some reason i accuse "so many people" of MHing they prob caught my stream during these time frames where the same hackers were sniping my stream.

Makes it even worse when they are on barcodes because then i have no fuckin clue if i'm playing a "legit" barcode or the same MHer from the last game. Those are the times you've seen me mistakingly call someone a hacker that wasn't...because they were on a goddamn barcode and that shit will put you on edge after 5+ games of being blind countered.

I do honestly think it's a huge problem in past months but everyone wants to disagree half the time without even lookin at replay evidence.

Maybe it´s because you DO accuse almost everybody of hacking? Replay evidence? Maybe you should listen to your own advice more often:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Kw_IKw-Z2HE

"I've accused this guy of hacking before... I don't know if he actually does." speaks volumes about you.

funny video. Seems like this Jason fellow got his point across well lol

Yes, just like the video where Ketroc analyses a replay sent by Avilo of a hacker. There is not a single suspicious incident in the game, Avilo just got outplayed.

I think the likely reason for Avilo's behaviour is an inflated opinion of his skill and a lack of understanding of the game. Thus everything looks suspicious to him. Either that or he has a certain image to keep up to retain his loyal viewers, and also those who like to watch the trainwreck that is Avilo.

But MHs are back, I don't think that people will come across them often, but even just 5% of the time is too much. Blizzard, please step up here.
Tresher
Profile Joined October 2011
Germany404 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-04-01 17:32:21
April 01 2017 17:31 GMT
#86
On April 02 2017 02:15 Blargh wrote:
Wait, is it just pure coincidence that the person in the video (Jason vs Avilo) is named Juggernaut, and so is the person in OP?

Am I missing something or??


I didn´t saw that. Doubt it´s the same guy tough.

Still good find from Ketroc. Thanks for posting this, people should know something like this.
Extreme Force
Phaenoman
Profile Joined February 2013
568 Posts
April 01 2017 17:34 GMT
#87
On April 02 2017 02:15 Blargh wrote:
Wait, is it just pure coincidence that the person in the video (Jason vs Avilo) is named Juggernaut, and so is the person in OP?

Am I missing something or??

It's pure coincidence. Jason (or Juggernautjason) is a GM Terran streamer (https://www.twitch.tv/juggernautjason)
Random is hard work dude...
Qwyn
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States2779 Posts
April 01 2017 17:55 GMT
#88
Lol mass raven building float is so cancerous that my eyes were pretty much blinded the first watch. Took a lot of effort to strip that bias away, rofl.

That Jason vs Avilo video sums up avilo pretty damn well!
"Think of the hysteria following the realization that they consciously consume babies and raise the dead people from their graves" - N0
Kevin_Sorbo
Profile Joined November 2011
Canada3217 Posts
April 01 2017 18:26 GMT
#89
On April 02 2017 01:51 iNcontroL wrote:
that video is pretty damning -- seems 100% to me.. sad though


the Jason vs avilo video you mean?

hehe
The mind is like a parachute, it doesnt work unless its open. - Zappa
Charoisaur
Profile Joined August 2014
Germany15958 Posts
April 01 2017 19:05 GMT
#90
I knew maphackers are back, that's why I went on a losing streak a few days ago.
Many of the coolest moments in sc2 happen due to worker harassment
lestye
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States4163 Posts
April 02 2017 13:36 GMT
#91
On April 02 2017 00:10 saltis wrote:
Wondering how much stronger anti-hack protection will be for SCR. I remember when LOTV was released it was lagged a lot because of super antihack, later it was nerfed to normalize game's performance.
As for SCR the game doesn't demand for high end system, so i guess Blizzard can implement something stronger than LOTV anti-hack.

Eh, I think itd ultimately be easier/simpler to hack older games.

Ultimately its always going to possible to hack these type of games since all the information is sent to the client. Cant be helped.
"You guys are just edgelords. Embrace your inner weeb desu" -Zergneedsfood
DeadByDawn
Profile Joined October 2012
United Kingdom476 Posts
April 02 2017 14:53 GMT
#92
On the positive side of things, I now have something to blame my losses on. Not just protoss imba

I think that if Blizzard expend a little effort, every now and then, to defeat the current map hacks then we would be OK. There is not as much incentive anymore to hack the game due to the general decline of SC2, so hackers would eventually give up, or switch to BW remastered.
Zulu23
Profile Joined August 2011
Germany132 Posts
April 02 2017 17:16 GMT
#93
I agree 100% evidence!
KaiserCommander
Profile Joined April 2010
Mexico290 Posts
April 02 2017 19:29 GMT
#94
Dunno how thats NOT clear maphacking for you, but ok.
Jinro, Polt, Bomber, ForGG, MajOr, Flash, Maru. Terran Fighting...
oOOoOphidian
Profile Joined January 2011
United States1402 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-04-05 07:25:50
April 05 2017 07:24 GMT
#95
On March 31 2017 10:21 c0sm0naut wrote:
yeah we know. watch out for this retard, who will make 10 phoenix, not harass with them, because he is not GM level, make a b-line to ur medivacs whenver you load up and begin to drop, and has perfect composition/awareness from his all-seeing 1 observer per game play. NA masters 1. cant even believe people would hack in diamond but i appreciate you making this video ketroc, this is not just circumstantial, it is very blatant. thankfully this game u played was long enough to be very convincing

http://sc2unmasked.com/Search?q=lllIIIIIIlll

I don't think that player hacks.
http://sc2unmasked.com/Search?q=검치문_353532
Only three replays to check, but this toss has high mmr on KR and doesn't seem to be cheating at all. If you have evidence on the contrary then share it please.
Creator of sc2unmasked.com
Liquid`Jinro
Profile Blog Joined September 2002
Sweden33719 Posts
April 05 2017 07:55 GMT
#96
On April 02 2017 01:47 BigFan wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 02 2017 01:14 Tresher wrote:
On March 31 2017 15:00 avilo wrote:
On March 31 2017 06:08 Charoisaur wrote:
On March 31 2017 05:57 Ketroc wrote:
On March 31 2017 05:14 Phaenoman wrote:
So it has not been known until now that hacking is a thing again?


Patch 3.0 in Oct2015 broke all the existing public maphacks beyond repair. Daed gam meant no one was interested in putting in the time to figure out how to decrypt and build another from scratch. There has been no evidence of maphack shown since then including TL's hacker thread.

But...but avilo is playing hackers every week /s


This shit is getting real tiring of people saying i accuse every single player of MHing when they are just being assholes and taking something out of context.

There have been stream sessions where i have been sniped repeatedly by the same 2-3 hackers (including that Nero guy) over the course of 10-20 games.

So i mean...there is not much i can do. If i'm playing the same hacker 4-6 games in a row on stream do you want me to say he doesn't hack? lol. I think this is why people think for some reason i accuse "so many people" of MHing they prob caught my stream during these time frames where the same hackers were sniping my stream.

Makes it even worse when they are on barcodes because then i have no fuckin clue if i'm playing a "legit" barcode or the same MHer from the last game. Those are the times you've seen me mistakingly call someone a hacker that wasn't...because they were on a goddamn barcode and that shit will put you on edge after 5+ games of being blind countered.

I do honestly think it's a huge problem in past months but everyone wants to disagree half the time without even lookin at replay evidence.

Maybe it´s because you DO accuse almost everybody of hacking? Replay evidence? Maybe you should listen to your own advice more often:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Kw_IKw-Z2HE

"I've accused this guy of hacking before... I don't know if he actually does." speaks volumes about you.

funny video. Seems like this Jason fellow got his point across well lol

That video is great hehe... Makes me want to watch his stream.
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cha0
Profile Joined March 2010
Canada504 Posts
April 05 2017 09:32 GMT
#97
Sucks about the hacking... but that video of avilo lol... How embarrassing.
arb
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
Noobville17921 Posts
April 05 2017 09:44 GMT
#98
On April 05 2017 18:32 cha0 wrote:
Sucks about the hacking... but that video of avilo lol... How embarrassing.

Its a rarity he even links the twitch stream and gets called a hacker

absolutely disgusting
Artillery spawned from the forges of Hell
todespolka
Profile Joined November 2012
221 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-04-05 11:08:29
April 05 2017 11:05 GMT
#99
Every time i catch their drop, have a defense or if i am prepared for an all in, I am called a maphacker. They don't even watch the replay and try to understand my decisions. It is hard work, not maphack! I don't just scout constantly, my zerglings patrouille between the bases, my overlords are well positioned, i am running with 2-3 army groups up and down the map, harass and cover my bases. And sometimes it is just coincides!

Ej_
Profile Blog Joined January 2013
47656 Posts
April 05 2017 11:26 GMT
#100
hahaha I've just watched the Jason vs avilo video, amazing.
"Technically the dictionary has zero authority on the meaning or words" - Rodya
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