On March 31 2017 05:14 Phaenoman wrote: So it has not been known until now that hacking is a thing again?
Patch 3.0 in Oct2015 broke all the existing public maphacks beyond repair. Daed gam meant no one was interested in putting in the time to figure out how to decrypt and build another from scratch. There has been no evidence of maphack shown since then including TL's hacker thread.
But...but avilo is playing hackers every week /s
This shit is getting real tiring of people saying i accuse every single player of MHing when they are just being assholes and taking something out of context.
There have been stream sessions where i have been sniped repeatedly by the same 2-3 hackers (including that Nero guy) over the course of 10-20 games.
So i mean...there is not much i can do. If i'm playing the same hacker 4-6 games in a row on stream do you want me to say he doesn't hack? lol. I think this is why people think for some reason i accuse "so many people" of MHing they prob caught my stream during these time frames where the same hackers were sniping my stream.
Makes it even worse when they are on barcodes because then i have no fuckin clue if i'm playing a "legit" barcode or the same MHer from the last game. Those are the times you've seen me mistakingly call someone a hacker that wasn't...because they were on a goddamn barcode and that shit will put you on edge after 5+ games of being blind countered.
I do honestly think it's a huge problem in past months but everyone wants to disagree half the time without even lookin at replay evidence.
Maybe it´s because you DO accuse almost everybody of hacking? Replay evidence? Maybe you should listen to your own advice more often:
"I've accused this guy of hacking before... I don't know if he actually does." speaks volumes about you.
On March 31 2017 05:14 Phaenoman wrote: So it has not been known until now that hacking is a thing again?
Patch 3.0 in Oct2015 broke all the existing public maphacks beyond repair. Daed gam meant no one was interested in putting in the time to figure out how to decrypt and build another from scratch. There has been no evidence of maphack shown since then including TL's hacker thread.
But...but avilo is playing hackers every week /s
This shit is getting real tiring of people saying i accuse every single player of MHing when they are just being assholes and taking something out of context.
There have been stream sessions where i have been sniped repeatedly by the same 2-3 hackers (including that Nero guy) over the course of 10-20 games.
So i mean...there is not much i can do. If i'm playing the same hacker 4-6 games in a row on stream do you want me to say he doesn't hack? lol. I think this is why people think for some reason i accuse "so many people" of MHing they prob caught my stream during these time frames where the same hackers were sniping my stream.
Makes it even worse when they are on barcodes because then i have no fuckin clue if i'm playing a "legit" barcode or the same MHer from the last game. Those are the times you've seen me mistakingly call someone a hacker that wasn't...because they were on a goddamn barcode and that shit will put you on edge after 5+ games of being blind countered.
I do honestly think it's a huge problem in past months but everyone wants to disagree half the time without even lookin at replay evidence.
Maybe it´s because you DO accuse almost everybody of hacking? Replay evidence? Maybe you should listen to your own advice more often: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Kw_IKw-Z2HE
"I've accused this guy of hacking before... I don't know if he actually does." speaks volumes about you.
funny video. Seems like this Jason fellow got his point across well lol
On March 31 2017 05:14 Phaenoman wrote: So it has not been known until now that hacking is a thing again?
Patch 3.0 in Oct2015 broke all the existing public maphacks beyond repair. Daed gam meant no one was interested in putting in the time to figure out how to decrypt and build another from scratch. There has been no evidence of maphack shown since then including TL's hacker thread.
But...but avilo is playing hackers every week /s
This shit is getting real tiring of people saying i accuse every single player of MHing when they are just being assholes and taking something out of context.
There have been stream sessions where i have been sniped repeatedly by the same 2-3 hackers (including that Nero guy) over the course of 10-20 games.
So i mean...there is not much i can do. If i'm playing the same hacker 4-6 games in a row on stream do you want me to say he doesn't hack? lol. I think this is why people think for some reason i accuse "so many people" of MHing they prob caught my stream during these time frames where the same hackers were sniping my stream.
Makes it even worse when they are on barcodes because then i have no fuckin clue if i'm playing a "legit" barcode or the same MHer from the last game. Those are the times you've seen me mistakingly call someone a hacker that wasn't...because they were on a goddamn barcode and that shit will put you on edge after 5+ games of being blind countered.
I do honestly think it's a huge problem in past months but everyone wants to disagree half the time without even lookin at replay evidence.
Maybe it´s because you DO accuse almost everybody of hacking? Replay evidence? Maybe you should listen to your own advice more often: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Kw_IKw-Z2HE
"I've accused this guy of hacking before... I don't know if he actually does." speaks volumes about you.
funny video. Seems like this Jason fellow got his point across well lol
Yes, just like the video where Ketroc analyses a replay sent by Avilo of a hacker. There is not a single suspicious incident in the game, Avilo just got outplayed.
I think the likely reason for Avilo's behaviour is an inflated opinion of his skill and a lack of understanding of the game. Thus everything looks suspicious to him. Either that or he has a certain image to keep up to retain his loyal viewers, and also those who like to watch the trainwreck that is Avilo.
But MHs are back, I don't think that people will come across them often, but even just 5% of the time is too much. Blizzard, please step up here.
On April 02 2017 02:15 Blargh wrote: Wait, is it just pure coincidence that the person in the video (Jason vs Avilo) is named Juggernaut, and so is the person in OP?
Am I missing something or??
I didn´t saw that. Doubt it´s the same guy tough.
Still good find from Ketroc. Thanks for posting this, people should know something like this.
On April 02 2017 02:15 Blargh wrote: Wait, is it just pure coincidence that the person in the video (Jason vs Avilo) is named Juggernaut, and so is the person in OP?
Am I missing something or??
It's pure coincidence. Jason (or Juggernautjason) is a GM Terran streamer (https://www.twitch.tv/juggernautjason)
Lol mass raven building float is so cancerous that my eyes were pretty much blinded the first watch. Took a lot of effort to strip that bias away, rofl.
That Jason vs Avilo video sums up avilo pretty damn well!
On April 02 2017 00:10 saltis wrote: Wondering how much stronger anti-hack protection will be for SCR. I remember when LOTV was released it was lagged a lot because of super antihack, later it was nerfed to normalize game's performance. As for SCR the game doesn't demand for high end system, so i guess Blizzard can implement something stronger than LOTV anti-hack.
Eh, I think itd ultimately be easier/simpler to hack older games.
Ultimately its always going to possible to hack these type of games since all the information is sent to the client. Cant be helped.
On the positive side of things, I now have something to blame my losses on. Not just protoss imba
I think that if Blizzard expend a little effort, every now and then, to defeat the current map hacks then we would be OK. There is not as much incentive anymore to hack the game due to the general decline of SC2, so hackers would eventually give up, or switch to BW remastered.
On March 31 2017 10:21 c0sm0naut wrote: yeah we know. watch out for this retard, who will make 10 phoenix, not harass with them, because he is not GM level, make a b-line to ur medivacs whenver you load up and begin to drop, and has perfect composition/awareness from his all-seeing 1 observer per game play. NA masters 1. cant even believe people would hack in diamond but i appreciate you making this video ketroc, this is not just circumstantial, it is very blatant. thankfully this game u played was long enough to be very convincing
I don't think that player hacks. http://sc2unmasked.com/Search?q=검치문_353532 Only three replays to check, but this toss has high mmr on KR and doesn't seem to be cheating at all. If you have evidence on the contrary then share it please.
On March 31 2017 05:14 Phaenoman wrote: So it has not been known until now that hacking is a thing again?
Patch 3.0 in Oct2015 broke all the existing public maphacks beyond repair. Daed gam meant no one was interested in putting in the time to figure out how to decrypt and build another from scratch. There has been no evidence of maphack shown since then including TL's hacker thread.
But...but avilo is playing hackers every week /s
This shit is getting real tiring of people saying i accuse every single player of MHing when they are just being assholes and taking something out of context.
There have been stream sessions where i have been sniped repeatedly by the same 2-3 hackers (including that Nero guy) over the course of 10-20 games.
So i mean...there is not much i can do. If i'm playing the same hacker 4-6 games in a row on stream do you want me to say he doesn't hack? lol. I think this is why people think for some reason i accuse "so many people" of MHing they prob caught my stream during these time frames where the same hackers were sniping my stream.
Makes it even worse when they are on barcodes because then i have no fuckin clue if i'm playing a "legit" barcode or the same MHer from the last game. Those are the times you've seen me mistakingly call someone a hacker that wasn't...because they were on a goddamn barcode and that shit will put you on edge after 5+ games of being blind countered.
I do honestly think it's a huge problem in past months but everyone wants to disagree half the time without even lookin at replay evidence.
Maybe it´s because you DO accuse almost everybody of hacking? Replay evidence? Maybe you should listen to your own advice more often: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Kw_IKw-Z2HE
"I've accused this guy of hacking before... I don't know if he actually does." speaks volumes about you.
funny video. Seems like this Jason fellow got his point across well lol
That video is great hehe... Makes me want to watch his stream.
Every time i catch their drop, have a defense or if i am prepared for an all in, I am called a maphacker. They don't even watch the replay and try to understand my decisions. It is hard work, not maphack! I don't just scout constantly, my zerglings patrouille between the bases, my overlords are well positioned, i am running with 2-3 army groups up and down the map, harass and cover my bases. And sometimes it is just coincides!
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