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Olli
Austria24417 Posts
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Musicus
Germany23576 Posts
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Deleted User 3420
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anyways this is a pretty stacked code S in general just missing byun | ||
Mizenhauer
United States1805 Posts
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AVirtualGigolo
12 Posts
On February 01 2017 22:08 travis wrote: lol that group B. seriously? anyways this is a pretty stacked code S in general just missing byun God would you ppl. STFU about Byun? He won $200k, he obviously took it easy, and he's been playing poorly (for him) lately. Jesus, stop sucking Byun off please...doesn't it get old? User was temp banned for this post. | ||
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Durnuu
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ArtyK
France3143 Posts
On February 01 2017 22:08 travis wrote: lol that group B. seriously? anyways this is a pretty stacked code S in general just missing byun and solar | ||
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mCon.Hephaistas
Netherlands891 Posts
And Zest the best | ||
digmouse
China6327 Posts
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Kaizor
Singapore909 Posts
On February 01 2017 22:25 digmouse wrote: Is there really a need for a poll this time round?? | ||
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rotta
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digmouse
China6327 Posts
On February 01 2017 22:28 Kaizor wrote: Is there really a need for a poll this time round?? There might be outliers! (how probable though? YMMV) | ||
Pandemona
Charlie Sheens House51458 Posts
 he hates TvT and it's the bane of his existence. He also can derp to protoss craziness as well and sOs will bring that no doubt. Eurgh This the second or third time now Maru is last pick btw? xD | ||
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intotheheart
Canada33091 Posts
But I will shitpost in the threads so I've got that going for me. | ||
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Elentos
55464 Posts
On February 01 2017 22:32 Pandemona wrote: Well Maru lost he hates TvT and it's the bane of his existence. He also can derp to protoss craziness as well and sOs will bring that no doubt. Eurgh This the second or third time now Maru is last pick btw? xD Maru wanted that group though. Group B is definitely the group of death but Group A is also incredibly sick. | ||
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Pandemona
Charlie Sheens House51458 Posts
On February 01 2017 22:42 Elentos wrote: Maru wanted that group though. Group B is definitely the group of death but Group A is also incredibly sick. Oh did he, ok interesting. I thought he hates TvT XD | ||
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Elentos
55464 Posts
On February 01 2017 22:43 Pandemona wrote: Oh did he, ok interesting. I thought he hates TvT XD It's a pretty weak group overall tbh and he really didn't want the others. I think his order of preference was D --> B --> C --> A. Yeah he didn't hate the idea of being in group B. On February 01 2017 22:10 mizenhauer wrote: Are there really more KeSPA Cup/Starleague final appearances in group B than the rest of the groups combined - or am I just imagining it? Dark alone almost beats every other group. | ||
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MrMischelito
347 Posts
11 Feb apparently will be the SKT memorial day | ||
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Koektrommel
Netherlands47 Posts
ByuL ~ Dark Stats ~ Classic aLive ~ soO Group A doesn't seem that much worse than B actually. | ||
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Pandemona
Charlie Sheens House51458 Posts
On February 01 2017 22:46 Elentos wrote: It's a pretty weak group overall tbh and he really didn't want the others. I think his order of preference was D --> B --> C --> A. Yeah he didn't hate the idea of being in group B. Dark alone almost beats every other group. I can see why, im sure he is pretty confident at the moment in TvZ so being with Dark would have been fine, Classic probs annoys him but Inno probably winnable in his eyes atm. TY and aLive both people who seem to "farm" him in TvT atm so i can understand not wanting group A  | ||
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Elentos
55464 Posts
On February 01 2017 22:10 mizenhauer wrote: Are there really more KeSPA Cup/Starleague final appearances in group B than the rest of the groups combined - or am I just imagining it? For the hell of it: Group A  TY - 1 GSL finalaLive - none ByuL - 2 GSL finals, 1 SSL final Stats - 1 SSL finalTotal: 5 Korean tournament finals Group B Dark - 2 KeSPA Cup finals, 2 SSL finalsClassic - 1 SSL final, 1 GSL finalINnoVation - 3 GSL finalssoO - 4 GSL finals, 1 KeSPA Cup finalTotal: 14 Korean tournament finals Group C herO - 2 KeSPA Cup finals, 1 SSL finalTrap - 1 KeSPA Cup finalLeenock - 1 GSL finalRyung - noneTotal: 5 Korean tournament finals Group D sOs - 1 GSL final, 1 Hot6ix Cup finalKeeN - noneBunny - noneMaru - 1 OSL final, 1 SSL finalTotal: 4 Korean tournament finals Group B pretty decent. | ||
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Peggies
Philippines9 Posts
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WidowMineHero
New Zealand143 Posts
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ShAd_1337
Germany1042 Posts
for me they are all still skt players and i really want all to advance *-* | ||
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JimmyJRaynor
Canada16647 Posts
on another note, the fact that there are less than 16 Terrans in the RO16 undeniably proves that Terran is underpowered and Mech needs to be buffed. | ||
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Zaros
United Kingdom3692 Posts
On February 01 2017 23:34 JimmyJRaynor wrote: are there any new "up and coming rookies" to look out for in the GSL this year? on another note, the fact that there are less than 16 Terrans in the RO16 undeniably proves that Terran is underpowered and Mech needs to be buffed. The GomTvT days are finally over | ||
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XiZeL
Switzerland92 Posts
Dark Vs INNO in my opinion | ||
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dr3am_b3ing
Canada188 Posts
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Koromon
United States304 Posts
GO RYUNG! | ||
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Noonius
Estonia17413 Posts
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Noonius
Estonia17413 Posts
On February 01 2017 23:39 dr3am_b3ing wrote: Maru taking Group D EZ there's no need to descend into madness | ||
CynicalDeath
Italy3286 Posts
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ejozl
Denmark3340 Posts
On February 01 2017 22:43 Pandemona wrote: Oh did he, ok interesting. I thought he hates TvT XD Mb he hates it, but he shouldn't. Imo it's his strongest matchup. Why did Gyuri say Classic is the weaker of the 4? they are very much even, mb Innovation is a bit higher right now and Dark is a bit higher in LotV. Overall you can't rly say he's the weakest resultwise and currently I don't think you can as well, other than Protoss simply having a rough patch. | ||
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Philozovic
France1676 Posts
Poll: Which one is harder Groupe B 2013 (Flash Inno Parting Life) (63) Groupe B 2017 (Inno Classic Dark soO) (45) 108 total votes Your vote: Which one is harder (Vote): Groupe B 2013 (Flash Inno Parting Life) | ||
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neutralrobot
Australia1025 Posts
On February 01 2017 23:39 dr3am_b3ing wrote: Maru taking Group D EZ I'm still not confident Maru is back to 100%. I feel like anything could happen. Didn't he just fail to qualify for Katowice? | ||
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GumBa
United Kingdom31935 Posts
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KingofdaHipHop
United States25602 Posts
does anyone have an order of picks btw? I'd like to see who picked who but I don't have the time to watch the whole VOD | ||
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killerm12
Slovakia601 Posts
On February 02 2017 01:04 KingofdaHipHop wrote: OMG group B, SKT didn't die for this... does anyone have an order of picks btw? I'd like to see who picked who but I don't have the time to watch the whole VOD top seeds picked first 4 player, then those 4 picked another 4 and so on after that TY as top seed had right to swap 2 players and he swapped Inno(was in C) with Ryung(was in B) | ||
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trada
Germany347 Posts
I like a lot of the matches tho! maybe I'll catch the vods... | ||
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StarscreamG1
Portugal1652 Posts
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Seeker
Where dat snitch at?36990 Posts
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Lightrush
Bulgaria164 Posts
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Boggyb
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ChriS-X
Malaysia1374 Posts
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stuchiu
Fiddler's Green42661 Posts
On February 02 2017 01:31 Seeker wrote: WAIT WTF?! HOW DID THIS GROUP B EVEN HAPPEN?! Pride or spite. Take your pick. | ||
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yubo56
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Drfilip
Sweden590 Posts
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phodacbiet
United States1739 Posts
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FrostedMiniWheats
United States30730 Posts
On February 02 2017 00:44 Philozovic wrote: You are not asking the right question ! Poll: Which one is harder Groupe B 2013 (Flash Inno Parting Life) (63) Groupe B 2017 (Inno Classic Dark soO) (45) 108 total votes Your vote: Which one is harder (Vote): Groupe B 2013 (Flash Inno Parting Life) You guys serious voting for 2017 over 2013? The 2013 group B had the best Protoss of the time, the best Zerg and the two best Terrans. Classic being in the 2017 group brings it down. == A: ByuL, aLive B: Bogus, soO C: herO, Leenock D: Maru, sOs Bogus might be in the clear this season unless herO, Maru, or ByuL can stop him. | ||
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Elentos
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On February 02 2017 01:04 KingofdaHipHop wrote: OMG group B, SKT didn't die for this... does anyone have an order of picks btw? I'd like to see who picked who but I don't have the time to watch the whole VOD 1st round TY --> aLivesOs --> KeeNherO --> TrapDark --> Classic2nd round KeeN --> BunnyTrap --> LeenockClassic --> RyungaLive --> ByuLfinal round ( TY: "If ByuL doesn't do as I say (and pick Stats or soO) I'll put him into another group")ByuL --> StatsRyung --> soOLeenock --> INnoVationBunny has to take MaruTY gets 1 swap between any two players. Stats wants to get swapped with someone from group C or D to make it easier for both of them, but TY decides to swap Ryung and INnoVation instead, finalizing the group of death in Group B. | ||
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killerm12
Slovakia601 Posts
On February 02 2017 02:47 FrostedMiniWheats wrote: You guys serious voting for 2017 over 2013? The 2013 group B had the best Protoss of the time, the best Zerg and the two best Terrans. Classic being in the 2017 group brings it down. SC2 Flash < BW Flash - in SC2 he was nowhere near best terrans Parting best Protoss of all time? seriously? it is at worst close call but certainly not so onesided as you try to suggest | ||
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Elentos
55464 Posts
On February 02 2017 02:54 killerm12 wrote: SC2 Flash < BW Flash - in SC2 he was nowhere near best terrans Parting best Protoss of all time? seriously? it is at worst close call but certainly not so onesided as you try to suggest At the time Flash was the 2nd best Terran. And he said "of the time" (as in for those months in 2013), not "of all time", regarding PartinG. | ||
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HolydaKing
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Prediction: A) TY aLiveB) INnoVation soOC) herO[jOin] RyungD) sOs KeeN | ||
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The_Red_Viper
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starkiller123
United States4030 Posts
A: TY, aLive B: Dark, INnoVation C: herO, Ryung D: Maru, Bunny I really don't know about group A so I just went with my Terran bias. And I dont think sOs can beat the terrans in his current form. | ||
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pvsnp
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But there's no way it matches up to the hype of 2013. Inno and Dark are on top of the world, but as good as Classic and soO are, they're pretty outclassed here. Classic complained in an interview about how much he loses against Dark, and soO went 2-9 against Inno recently in addition to having been notably defeated twice by him in the finals (GSL and IEM respectively). Compared to 2013, when it was actually the four best players in the world. Soulkey was arguably better, but that's a stretch. The group of Parting, Life, Inno and Flash has never been equaled before or since. PartinG and Flash retired, Life isn't around anymore, but INnoVation, for all his ups and downs, is once again the best around four years later. Talk about tenacity. | ||
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intotheheart
Canada33091 Posts
On February 02 2017 01:28 StarscreamG1 wrote: OMG, did alive got into R16?? I just saw his first pair of games and he was playing so bad.. Yeah he did! :O Played some solid games towards the end. | ||
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Phredxor
New Zealand15076 Posts
Also 2013 group comfortably better. | ||
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pvsnp
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Inno can beat Dark, Classic, and soO Dark can beat Inno and Classic Classic can beat soO soO can beat Dark So we get Inno and Dark in the winner's match, which is pretty much a coinflip. If Dark loses, he might get knocked out by soO, but for that to happen soO has to beat Classic, which is a long shot. If Inno loses I doubt either Classic or soO can take him out. Inno and Dark to advance. | ||
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The_Red_Viper
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On February 02 2017 03:22 pvsnp wrote: Group B is a formidable Group of Death, and the strongest we've had in a couple years. But there's no way it matches up to the hype of 2013. Inno and Dark are on top of the world, but as good as Classic and soO are, they're pretty outclassed here. Classic complained in an interview about how much he loses against Dark, and soO went 2-9 against Inno recently in addition to having been notably defeated twice by him in the finals (GSL and IEM respectively). Compared to 2013, when it was actually the four best players in the world. Soulkey was arguably better, but that's a stretch. The group of Parting, Life, Inno and Flash has never been equaled before or since. At least not in sc2, there was (were?) some really hard group in bw, consisting of Jaedong, Bisu, Flash and Sea | ||
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skatblast
United States784 Posts
edit: for some reason i thought leenock was julyzerg sorry. | ||
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Hushfieldx
Belgium64 Posts
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Ej_
47656 Posts
On February 02 2017 03:53 skatblast wrote: leenock is playing again?wow edit: for some reason i thought leenock was julyzerg sorry. Leenock is the guy who ate July and gained his powers. | ||
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FFW_Rude
France10201 Posts
I don't see more than 1 Z in RO8 though Hopeing (is that a word) for Stats to win the whole thing. Well. No. That's not hope. I'm sure of it | ||
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Alarak89
United States882 Posts
On February 02 2017 03:11 starkiller123 wrote: Prediction time, A: TY, aLive B: Dark, INnoVation C: herO, Ryung D: Maru, Bunny I really don't know about group A so I just went with my Terran bias. And I dont think sOs can beat the terrans in his current form. But he have already beaten a Terran ONLINE, and interestingly enough his opponent's name is KeeN. Dude, if someone even lost to sOs ONLINE nowadays, he has no hope when it comes to offline. | ||
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FrostedMiniWheats
United States30730 Posts
On February 02 2017 05:17 FFW_Rude wrote: The group of Beath. I don't see more than 1 Z in RO8 though Hopeing (is that a word) for Stats to win the whole thing. Well. No. That's not hope. I'm sure of it I think 1 of Dark or soO will win over Classic and ByuL is probably the favorite in his group with the main challenge being Stats. Come to think of it, Leenock stands a decent chance against Trap and Ryung as well and has the benefit of going against Ryung first. He may very well just end up advancing by beating him twice. I say at least 2 Z make it. | ||
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KappaKingPrime
United States468 Posts
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Gwavajuice
France1810 Posts
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mikedebo
Canada4341 Posts
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Shellshock
United States97276 Posts
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Blargh
United States2101 Posts
Still, Group SKT is probably the toughest one here, and should be amazing to watch. | ||
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Bijan
United States286 Posts
On February 02 2017 07:57 Shellshock wrote: easy group for inno Right now I don't think you could possibly stack a group where Innovation isn't the favorite. | ||
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ParksonVN
Australia370 Posts
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dr3am_b3ing
Canada188 Posts
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Riner1212
United States337 Posts
group B : innovation and dark group C: Ryung and Hero (considering if ryung can play well) grou D: maru and bunny | ||
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SetGuitarsToKill
Canada28396 Posts
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ParksonVN
Australia370 Posts
On February 02 2017 14:52 SetGuitarsToKill wrote: At what point can a group just get too nutty? Group B really pushes that boundary. A is nuts too Firstly Dark wanted a family group, he picked Classic. Classic, more realistically, picked Ryung to secure both him and Dark can advance. But Ryung, as the weakest one, had nothing to lose, so he picked Soo to make the group as hard as possible . And TY just finished the job by swapping Ryung and InnoVation. | ||
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maitiky
Czech Republic54 Posts
On February 02 2017 02:38 Drfilip wrote: Dark said he wanted to make his group all about family. He got his ohana. Pretty much Vin Diesel's style (Fast and Furious movies). | ||
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DieuCure
France3713 Posts
He cant win against soO | ||
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DBooN
Germany2727 Posts
On February 02 2017 15:38 ParksonVN wrote: Firstly Dark wanted a family group, he picked Classic. Classic, more realistically, picked Ryung to secure both him and Dark can advance. But Ryung, as the weakest one, had nothing to lose, so he picked Soo to make the group as hard as possible . And TY just finished the job by swapping Ryung and InnoVation. ryung had the choice between soO, inno or maru | ||
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Mun_Su
France2063 Posts
On February 02 2017 23:00 DBooN wrote: ryung had the choice between soO, inno or maru Yeah I think he feared the two terran monsters. But soO would'have eat him anyway. | ||
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Danglars
United States12133 Posts
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BisuDagger
Bisutopia19214 Posts
On February 01 2017 22:50 Koektrommel wrote: TY ~ INnoVation ByuL ~ Dark Stats ~ Classic aLive ~ soO Group A doesn't seem that much worse than B actually. Except Group B is sadly all ex-SKT | ||
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Alucen-Will-
United States4054 Posts
Also Group B seems to be soO's I'll never win a gsl group | ||
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Phredxor
New Zealand15076 Posts
On February 03 2017 04:14 Alucen-Will- wrote: Has PartinG retired (from above)? Certainly seems like 2016 was a non-thing for him. Also Group B seems to be soO's I'll never win a gsl group More or less. I see him streaming League on twitch every now and then to like 7 people. | ||
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Philozovic
France1676 Posts
On February 01 2017 22:50 Koektrommel wrote: TY ~ INnoVation ByuL ~ Dark Stats ~ Classic aLive ~ soO Group A doesn't seem that much worse than B actually. Byul is nowhere near Dark who just had an amazing 2016 year whereas Byul couldn't made a single top 8. Sure they both made top 4 at IEM but Dark beat Byun and lost 2-3 to Inno when Byul went 3-3 against classic and beat soO. Byul is much closer to soO than to Dark. Did you see alive group ? Sure he qualified, but he looked so weak. He is nothing to soO and to the group. Group A is strong but there is two clear favourite TY and Stats and Byul could possibly upset one of them alive is 99% dead if he doesn't show more than last time. Groupe B is madness it could very well have been the top 4. Sure Dark and Inno are miles ahead but they could lose to Classic and Dark and it would not be that surprising | ||
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Elentos
55464 Posts
On February 03 2017 05:08 Philozovic wrote: Did you see alive group ? Did you see who he beat in the IEM qualifiers? | ||
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Philozovic
France1676 Posts
On February 03 2017 05:09 Elentos wrote: Did you see who he beat in the IEM qualifiers? Amazing lower bracket run don't get me wrong but that is one good online day | ||
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Ej_
47656 Posts
On February 03 2017 05:32 Philozovic wrote: Amazing lower bracket run don't get me wrong but that is one good online day http://aligulac.com/players/106-aLive/results/ | ||
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Charoisaur
Germany15883 Posts
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Elentos
55464 Posts
On February 03 2017 05:39 Charoisaur wrote: Unrelated question: Did Dream retire? I don't think he has competed in anything. Lost to Armani in the GSL qualifiers, didn't play in anything since then. Whether he's actually retired or just being lazy I don't know. | ||
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pvsnp
7676 Posts
You guys also have to notice it's all best of 3, which means nobody is unbeatable. Even Soo or Classic can 2-0 Innovation or Dark not surprisingly. It's true that upsets can very much happen in a Bo3, much more so than in a Bo5/Bo7. Still, the Koreans believe (rightfully so) that GSL is the hardest and most prestigious tournament of them all, and will be preparing for that accordingly. To use INnoVation as an example, he loses to baneling busts/onebase ravagers/assorted cheese/etc, a surprising amount online, far more than you'd expect from a player of his caliber. But in his GSL group, he completely shut down Losira's allin with five bunkers the first game, and some insane splitting stutterstep kiting the second. The pros hold back quite a bit in tournaments they don't think are important, especially with regard to mentality and preparing specifically for their opponent on specific maps. But nobody will hold back at GSL. GSL is the reason they held back at the smaller tournaments. I'm expecting some awesome games from Group B, especially when Dark and Inno go all-out in the winner's match. | ||
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FrostedMiniWheats
United States30730 Posts
On February 03 2017 05:08 Philozovic wrote: Byul is nowhere near Dark who just had an amazing 2016 year whereas Byul couldn't made a single top 8. Sure they both made top 4 at IEM but Dark beat Byun and lost 2-3 to Inno when Byul went 3-3 against classic and beat soO. Byul is much closer to soO than to Dark. Did you see alive group ? Sure he qualified, but he looked so weak. He is nothing to soO and to the group. Group A is strong but there is two clear favourite TY and Stats and Byul could possibly upset one of them alive is 99% dead if he doesn't show more than last time. Groupe B is madness it could very well have been the top 4. Sure Dark and Inno are miles ahead but they could lose to Classic and Dark and it would not be that surprising Depends how much you value online results. Given the slim pickings of 2017, I think they're one of the few other indicators we have of the current form of players besides gsl. Factoring those in, based on recent results (since patch 3.8) I'd say ByuL, Dark, and soO are not far apart at all. Dark still deserves the title of best Zerg for sure, but he's not ridiculously ahead of the rest of the pack. Frankly, even though he still holds the Zerg throne and was the only one worth a damn in 2016, I still think he's a bit overrated. I could easily see ByuL or soO dethroning him in the future considering they've both had higher peaks in the past (though that was in HotS). I think group A is more of a toss-up than it seems. aLive has been looking legit lately and TY/Stats are not clear favorites at all. | ||
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Elentos
55464 Posts
On February 03 2017 06:36 FrostedMiniWheats wrote: I think group A is more of a toss-up than it seems. aLive has been looking legit lately and TY/Stats are not clear favorites at all. If group B wasn't so completely ridiculous group A would have been my group of death for sure. | ||
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zealotstim
United States455 Posts
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Philozovic
France1676 Posts
Is that supposed to go against what I said ? Since 22nov and the new patch aLive is 107-108 in games and 42-39 in matches against koreans. soO is 88-66 (and that included him getting trashed by Inno) and 32-20 that is not close. aLive is average and given his recent offline showing I would say at best. On February 03 2017 06:36 FrostedMiniWheats wrote: Depends how much you value online results. Given the slim pickings of 2017, I think they're one of the few other indicators we have of the current form of players besides gsl. Factoring those in, based on recent results (since patch 3.8) I'd say ByuL, Dark, and soO are not far apart at all. Dark still deserves the title of best Zerg for sure, but he's not ridiculously ahead of the rest of the pack. Frankly, even though he still holds the Zerg throne and was the only one worth a damn in 2016, I still think he's a bit overrated. I could easily see ByuL or soO dethroning him in the future considering they've both had higher peaks in the past (though that was in HotS). I think group A is more of a toss-up than it seems. aLive has been looking legit lately and TY/Stats are not clear favorites at all. see above for aLive, Byul is 86-62 in games and 36-18 in matches. sure he won some online cups here and there but noway I'm rating him as highly as Dark who deliver throughout all 2016 without missing a beat. I'm not saying he is bad, I'm just saying he is no Dark. I'm ready to ban bet that aLive won't make it out of his group | ||
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pvsnp
7676 Posts
Factoring those in, based on recent results (since patch 3.8) I'd say ByuL, Dark, and soO are not far apart at all. Dark still deserves the title of best Zerg for sure, but he's not ridiculously ahead of the rest of the pack. Frankly, even though he still holds the Zerg throne and was the only one worth a damn in 2016, I still think he's a bit overrated. I could easily see ByuL or soO dethroning him in the future considering they've both had higher peaks in the past (though that was in HotS). Dark's ZvZ is not so great, yeah, but his ZvT is easily a tier above ByuL and soO. Haven't seen much of his ZvP lately, but Classic complains about how much he gets beat by Dark, and Dark chose Classic in group selection so I'm guessing it's pretty good. All three Zergs have played INnoVation recently (and lost), but Dark was the only one who made every game look competitive. Inno didn't roflstomp soO and ByuL, but their games weren't close either. Whereas with Dark, Inno was winning favorable maps and losing unfavorable ones. Given that, I'd say the gap between Dark and the other top Zergs is still significant. Not nearly as huge as it was in 2016, ofc, but he's not really in danger of losing his throne atm. | ||
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Frakkofff
Russian Federation66 Posts
Group B : DarK; INnoVatioN Group C : herO; Leenock Group D : Maru; KeeN | ||
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Lunchador
United States776 Posts
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bObA
France300 Posts
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Ej_
47656 Posts
On February 03 2017 07:52 Philozovic wrote: Is that supposed to go against what I said ? Since 22nov and the new patch aLive is 107-108 in games and 42-39 in matches against koreans. soO is 88-66 (and that included him getting trashed by Inno) and 32-20 that is not close. aLive is average and given his recent offline showing I would say at best. I filtered for 2017, vs KR only for you. http://aligulac.com/players/106/results/?after=2017-01-01&before=&event=&race=ptzr&country=KR&bestof=all&offline=both&game=all&wcs_season=&wcs_tier=&op= 54.07% in maps 62.50% in matches Then look at the people he has won versus. INnoVation, Stats, Dark, ByuN, Zest, Maru, herO. He's definitely a very strong player now (with the exception of his awful GSL performance [where u could still see the real quality of aLive in g3 vs Scarlett where he just roflstomped her with pure macro]). oh and btw, no, no Zerg has been any close to Dark's level for about a year now | ||
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Alarak89
United States882 Posts
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DieuCure
France3713 Posts
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Philozovic
France1676 Posts
On February 04 2017 06:48 Ej_ wrote: I filtered for 2017, vs KR only for you. http://aligulac.com/players/106/results/?after=2017-01-01&before=&event=&race=ptzr&country=KR&bestof=all&offline=both&game=all&wcs_season=&wcs_tier=&op= 54.07% in maps 62.50% in matches Then look at the people he has won versus. INnoVation, Stats, Dark, ByuN, Zest, Maru, herO. He's definitely a very strong player now (with the exception of his awful GSL performance [where u could still see the real quality of aLive in g3 vs Scarlett where he just roflstomped her with pure macro]). oh and btw, no, no Zerg has been any close to Dark's level for about a year now Well my original post was a reply to : On February 01 2017 22:50 Koektrommel wrote: TY ~ INnoVation ByuL ~ Dark Stats ~ Classic aLive ~ soO Group A doesn't seem that much worse than B actually. And I didn't say aLive is shit, I'm just saying he ain't soO and that he is much weaker than TY, Stats and Byul | ||
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Madars
Latvia166 Posts
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