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halomonian
Profile Joined January 2012
Brazil255 Posts
December 06 2016 02:42 GMT
#41
I wonder when they will release the game. Can't wait!
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JimmyJRaynor
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada16647 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-12-06 03:40:30
December 06 2016 03:18 GMT
#42
so the Hydralisk nerf and Blinding Cloud nerf really help out immobile units like the Thor and Tank i wish the combo of abilities the Viper has including Consume and Abduct were changed... but the direction DK/Blizz went in is ok.

i hope these changes go up soon so i can play with them.

On December 06 2016 05:57 washikie wrote:
I'm not sure how you fix swarmhosts without making them useless though. The unit either seems like it's locusts are cost effective enough that they brutally punish any immobile Terran army, or they arnt cost effective so they are complete trash. Mabey making them like carriers would work were locusts cost small amounts of money, so that swarm hosts are more of a commitment and they cut into a Zerg players bank.

this sounds like a good idea $10 or $5 locusts for the Swarmhosts.
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digmouse
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
China6327 Posts
December 06 2016 03:38 GMT
#43
I would like to keep the Immortal ability though.
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RevTiberius
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Canada353 Posts
December 06 2016 04:04 GMT
#44
certainly one of the better among the recent patches... nonetheless... the very fact that it's necessary to constantly tweak balance is turning me off
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FrostedMiniWheats
Profile Joined August 2010
United States30730 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-12-06 04:15:16
December 06 2016 04:14 GMT
#45
On December 06 2016 05:57 washikie wrote:
I would be much more ok with vipers if swarmhosts were not such a brutal counter to tanks, until swarmhost strength is addressed mech players cannot dream of pushing into a Zerg player. Mech will remain a turtle style or it won't be viable at higher levels of play. I'm not sure how you fix swarmhosts without making them useless though. The unit either seems like it's locusts are cost effective enough that they brutally punish any immobile Terran army, or they arnt cost effective so they are complete trash. Mabey making them like carriers would work were locusts cost small amounts of money, so that swarm hosts are more of a commitment and they cut into a Zerg players bank.


They should go a different direction entirely and make them into a dedicated ground AA unit imo. That would allow more room in redesigning the viper if another unit could potentially fill its AA functions. I wish they'd stop banging their heads against the wall with locusts and just try scourge. :/
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Couguar
Profile Joined April 2010
Russian Federation54 Posts
December 06 2016 04:49 GMT
#46
Please make immortal ability activate only when all shields lost.... it will be enough to buff it.
blade55555
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
United States17423 Posts
December 06 2016 04:56 GMT
#47
I wouldn't mind cheaper Hydra's. I would rather low supply cheaper hydras than super strong Hydra's. Hope this doesn't kill off Hydra's again.
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Sapphire.lux
Profile Joined July 2010
Romania2620 Posts
December 06 2016 05:08 GMT
#48
Nooo don't buff the range on Tempests. Equal range to the Thor means only one or 2 Thors will shoot and so making Tempests easy to snipe Thors with. This turns the tide in the flying units favor. Protoss does not need for the Tempest to be an anti mech unit, it has a lot of options already. Keep the Tempest as an anti BL/BC counter and just give it a low range low dmg AtG; they are boring units anyway.

Carefull with the Immortal to not to buff it against mech.

The rest seem reasonable.
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avilo
Profile Blog Joined November 2007
United States4100 Posts
December 06 2016 05:09 GMT
#49
Mass ravens and swarmhosts says hello.
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Thouhastmail
Profile Joined March 2015
Korea (North)876 Posts
December 06 2016 05:12 GMT
#50
It feels new to see the abbreviation of Community Feedback Update; somehow I thought OP's swearing.
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JimmyJRaynor
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada16647 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-12-06 05:14:41
December 06 2016 05:13 GMT
#51
pretty damn cool DK is providing this level of granularity of feedback.

On December 06 2016 13:04 RevTiberius wrote:
certainly one of the better among the recent patches... nonetheless... the very fact that it's necessary to constantly tweak balance is turning me off

play an older game that's fully settled. diverse race RTS games take more than 1 year and often never get fully balanced. completely balancing a diverse race RTS while still keeping it fun is a brutally difficult job.
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Charoisaur
Profile Joined August 2014
Germany15883 Posts
December 06 2016 05:37 GMT
#52
On December 06 2016 14:08 Sapphire.lux wrote:
Nooo don't buff the range on Tempests. Equal range to the Thor means only one or 2 Thors will shoot and so making Tempests easy to snipe Thors with. This turns the tide in the flying units favor. Protoss does not need for the Tempest to be an anti mech unit, it has a lot of options already. Keep the Tempest as an anti BL/BC counter and just give it a low range low dmg AtG; they are boring units anyway.

Carefull with the Immortal to not to buff it against mech.

The rest seem reasonable.

actually the removal of the spell makes the tempest worse against mech imo as the tempest ability is extremely good against the immobile mech units.
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Sapphire.lux
Profile Joined July 2010
Romania2620 Posts
December 06 2016 05:46 GMT
#53
On December 06 2016 14:37 Charoisaur wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 06 2016 14:08 Sapphire.lux wrote:
Nooo don't buff the range on Tempests. Equal range to the Thor means only one or 2 Thors will shoot and so making Tempests easy to snipe Thors with. This turns the tide in the flying units favor. Protoss does not need for the Tempest to be an anti mech unit, it has a lot of options already. Keep the Tempest as an anti BL/BC counter and just give it a low range low dmg AtG; they are boring units anyway.

Carefull with the Immortal to not to buff it against mech.

The rest seem reasonable.

actually the removal of the spell makes the tempest worse against mech imo as the tempest ability is extremely good against the immobile mech units.

I disagree with this. Mass Tempests will be much better now. You could move thors away from the "zone" and spread Tanks, now Tempests can do what they've always done, taking just one or two shots in the process. If we had a Faster GtA that could get in position maybe, but the slow, big, expensive Thor will be easy fooder for mass Tempests.
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insitelol
Profile Joined August 2012
845 Posts
December 06 2016 06:13 GMT
#54
On December 06 2016 11:42 halomonian wrote:
I wonder when they will release the game. Can't wait!

This.
When will this end i'm so sick and tired of this idiocy. Listen you, blizzard, here is my feedback:
"I want to fucking play the game not read about another load of crap changes that will have 0 effect on the playablity. Fire David Kim he is just dragging attention to his person and creating work for himself. Nothing he does has any kind of sense. These so called "changes" just go round and round, they buff somthing, then nerf something, then buff it again, add ability on a certain unit, tweak ability, remove ability, then add ability again, state they want more micro abilities then state they want less microabilities, saying they want to buff unit then in 2 (!!!) days admiting that was a mistake. Calling this an off-season while there are two major tournaments going on (one of them is another blizzcon in terms of prize money). How much more disrepsect can you show to organaizers and players who devote their time and money to promoting your game, blizzard? I want to play they game, but i can't. Ladder is complete chaos with random builds everybody's trying with no clear ending. I want to remind you that you actually sold me the GAME, not an everlasting beta. I want my gaming experience. I m gona fcking sue you for fsake".

User was temp banned for this post.
Less is more.
PharaphobiaSC
Profile Joined April 2016
Czech Republic457 Posts
December 06 2016 06:28 GMT
#55
On December 06 2016 15:13 insitelol wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 06 2016 11:42 halomonian wrote:
I wonder when they will release the game. Can't wait!

This.
When will this end i'm so sick and tired of this idiocy. Listen you, blizzard, here is my feedback:
"I want to fucking play the game not read about another load of crap changes that will have 0 effect on the playablity. Fire David Kim he is just dragging attention to his person and creating work for himself. Nothing he does has any kind of sense. These so called "changes" just go round and round, they buff somthing, then nerf something, then buff it again, add ability on a certain unit, tweak ability, remove ability, then add ability again, state they want more micro abilities then state they want less microabilities, saying they want to buff unit then in 2 (!!!) days admiting that was a mistake. Calling this an off-season while there are two major tournaments going on (one of them is another blizzcon in terms of prize money). How much more disrepsect can you show to organaizers and players who devote their time and money to promoting your game, blizzard? I want to play they game, but i can't. Ladder is complete chaos with random builds everybody's trying with no clear ending. I want to remind you that you actually sold me the GAME, not an everlasting beta. I want my gaming experience. I m gona fcking sue you for fsake".


1.) If you looose on ladder to "random" thing than you did a bad job with scouting or did not care to scout at all
2.) stop being mad for your mistakes
3.) these balance patches are happening for 6years and will continue to happen to shake the meta
4.) stop being mad for your mistakes
5.) yes this is off season and the offseason will happen every year or so
6.) stop being mad for your mistakes
7.) they sold you the game with complete multiplayer story, coop with neverending content, arcades... ladder is just part of it
8.) stop being mad for your mistakes
9.) they do not disrespect anyone, so far it even looks like they read balahe posts from community
10.) stop being mad for your mistakes
11.) gl sueing multi bilion dollar company and not ending badly
12.) stop being mad for your mistakes

Here.. now you can be mad on me cause i tried a bit to piss you off even more so lets see how it works
twitch.tv/pharaphobia
insitelol
Profile Joined August 2012
845 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-12-06 06:38:29
December 06 2016 06:38 GMT
#56
On December 06 2016 15:28 PharaphobiaSC wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 06 2016 15:13 insitelol wrote:
On December 06 2016 11:42 halomonian wrote:
I wonder when they will release the game. Can't wait!

This.
When will this end i'm so sick and tired of this idiocy. Listen you, blizzard, here is my feedback:
"I want to fucking play the game not read about another load of crap changes that will have 0 effect on the playablity. Fire David Kim he is just dragging attention to his person and creating work for himself. Nothing he does has any kind of sense. These so called "changes" just go round and round, they buff somthing, then nerf something, then buff it again, add ability on a certain unit, tweak ability, remove ability, then add ability again, state they want more micro abilities then state they want less microabilities, saying they want to buff unit then in 2 (!!!) days admiting that was a mistake. Calling this an off-season while there are two major tournaments going on (one of them is another blizzcon in terms of prize money). How much more disrepsect can you show to organaizers and players who devote their time and money to promoting your game, blizzard? I want to play they game, but i can't. Ladder is complete chaos with random builds everybody's trying with no clear ending. I want to remind you that you actually sold me the GAME, not an everlasting beta. I want my gaming experience. I m gona fcking sue you for fsake".


1.) If you looose on ladder to "random" thing than you did a bad job with scouting or did not care to scout at all
2.) stop being mad for your mistakes
3.) these balance patches are happening for 6years and will continue to happen to shake the meta
4.) stop being mad for your mistakes
5.) yes this is off season and the offseason will happen every year or so
6.) stop being mad for your mistakes
7.) they sold you the game with complete multiplayer story, coop with neverending content, arcades... ladder is just part of it
8.) stop being mad for your mistakes
9.) they do not disrespect anyone, so far it even looks like they read balahe posts from community
10.) stop being mad for your mistakes
11.) gl sueing multi bilion dollar company and not ending badly
12.) stop being mad for your mistakes

Here.. now you can be mad on me cause i tried a bit to piss you off even more so lets see how it works


If obvious trolling (?) is meant to piss me off then... ok im pissed off. Because everything you wrote is just controversial crap.
Less is more.
PharaphobiaSC
Profile Joined April 2016
Czech Republic457 Posts
December 06 2016 06:40 GMT
#57
On December 06 2016 15:38 insitelol wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 06 2016 15:28 PharaphobiaSC wrote:
On December 06 2016 15:13 insitelol wrote:
On December 06 2016 11:42 halomonian wrote:
I wonder when they will release the game. Can't wait!

This.
When will this end i'm so sick and tired of this idiocy. Listen you, blizzard, here is my feedback:
"I want to fucking play the game not read about another load of crap changes that will have 0 effect on the playablity. Fire David Kim he is just dragging attention to his person and creating work for himself. Nothing he does has any kind of sense. These so called "changes" just go round and round, they buff somthing, then nerf something, then buff it again, add ability on a certain unit, tweak ability, remove ability, then add ability again, state they want more micro abilities then state they want less microabilities, saying they want to buff unit then in 2 (!!!) days admiting that was a mistake. Calling this an off-season while there are two major tournaments going on (one of them is another blizzcon in terms of prize money). How much more disrepsect can you show to organaizers and players who devote their time and money to promoting your game, blizzard? I want to play they game, but i can't. Ladder is complete chaos with random builds everybody's trying with no clear ending. I want to remind you that you actually sold me the GAME, not an everlasting beta. I want my gaming experience. I m gona fcking sue you for fsake".


1.) If you looose on ladder to "random" thing than you did a bad job with scouting or did not care to scout at all
2.) stop being mad for your mistakes
3.) these balance patches are happening for 6years and will continue to happen to shake the meta
4.) stop being mad for your mistakes
5.) yes this is off season and the offseason will happen every year or so
6.) stop being mad for your mistakes
7.) they sold you the game with complete multiplayer story, coop with neverending content, arcades... ladder is just part of it
8.) stop being mad for your mistakes
9.) they do not disrespect anyone, so far it even looks like they read balahe posts from community
10.) stop being mad for your mistakes
11.) gl sueing multi bilion dollar company and not ending badly
12.) stop being mad for your mistakes

Here.. now you can be mad on me cause i tried a bit to piss you off even more so lets see how it works


If obvious trolling (?) is meant to piss me off then... ok im pissed off. Because everything you wrote is just controversial crap.


I'm not there is so much wrong in what you said that there is no racional response to that... but i tried! x) Maybe i was trolling in steps 2,4,6,8,10 and 12, but all of the other points are just facts screaming from your original post xP
twitch.tv/pharaphobia
insitelol
Profile Joined August 2012
845 Posts
December 06 2016 06:51 GMT
#58
On December 06 2016 15:40 PharaphobiaSC wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 06 2016 15:38 insitelol wrote:
On December 06 2016 15:28 PharaphobiaSC wrote:
On December 06 2016 15:13 insitelol wrote:
On December 06 2016 11:42 halomonian wrote:
I wonder when they will release the game. Can't wait!

This.
When will this end i'm so sick and tired of this idiocy. Listen you, blizzard, here is my feedback:
"I want to fucking play the game not read about another load of crap changes that will have 0 effect on the playablity. Fire David Kim he is just dragging attention to his person and creating work for himself. Nothing he does has any kind of sense. These so called "changes" just go round and round, they buff somthing, then nerf something, then buff it again, add ability on a certain unit, tweak ability, remove ability, then add ability again, state they want more micro abilities then state they want less microabilities, saying they want to buff unit then in 2 (!!!) days admiting that was a mistake. Calling this an off-season while there are two major tournaments going on (one of them is another blizzcon in terms of prize money). How much more disrepsect can you show to organaizers and players who devote their time and money to promoting your game, blizzard? I want to play they game, but i can't. Ladder is complete chaos with random builds everybody's trying with no clear ending. I want to remind you that you actually sold me the GAME, not an everlasting beta. I want my gaming experience. I m gona fcking sue you for fsake".


1.) If you looose on ladder to "random" thing than you did a bad job with scouting or did not care to scout at all
2.) stop being mad for your mistakes
3.) these balance patches are happening for 6years and will continue to happen to shake the meta
4.) stop being mad for your mistakes
5.) yes this is off season and the offseason will happen every year or so
6.) stop being mad for your mistakes
7.) they sold you the game with complete multiplayer story, coop with neverending content, arcades... ladder is just part of it
8.) stop being mad for your mistakes
9.) they do not disrespect anyone, so far it even looks like they read balahe posts from community
10.) stop being mad for your mistakes
11.) gl sueing multi bilion dollar company and not ending badly
12.) stop being mad for your mistakes

Here.. now you can be mad on me cause i tried a bit to piss you off even more so lets see how it works


If obvious trolling (?) is meant to piss me off then... ok im pissed off. Because everything you wrote is just controversial crap.


I'm not there is so much wrong in what you said that there is no racional response to that... but i tried! x) Maybe i was trolling in steps 2,4,6,8,10 and 12, but all of the other points are just facts screaming from your original post xP

Stating the fact the game is chaotically changed and tweaked with no clear reasoning needs no racional response, pretty much this. And you clearly failed your try, mr Troll.
Less is more.
SwiftRH
Profile Joined August 2013
United States105 Posts
December 06 2016 07:35 GMT
#59
protoss gets the short end of the stick again. no good way to scout early game. pvt and pvz ends in baserace half the time. no realible aoe that u need to have couse gateway units are shit sigh*
Man MODE!
prabuty
Profile Joined October 2016
Poland26 Posts
December 06 2016 08:01 GMT
#60
Exactly fucking that. Can't agree more with those proposed changes
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