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Vipers are problematic in regards to balance because they ignore terrain and counter positional play simultaneously. If they wanna nerf em they should put em behind a tech wall with some upgrades. Zerg really needs a powerful caster and the viper does it but I understand why it's hard to get right. While it is strong it's definitely not unbeatable and every race has an equally powerful answer.
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On December 05 2016 05:20 Tyrhanius wrote:Show nested quote +On December 05 2016 05:06 Charoisaur wrote:On December 05 2016 04:52 Tyrhanius wrote:On December 04 2016 03:40 Charoisaur wrote:On December 03 2016 22:46 PharaphobiaSC wrote:On December 03 2016 21:52 Charoisaur wrote:On December 03 2016 18:07 Nerchio wrote: I am tired of Blizzard taking away any good units from Zerg and then you are left with mediocre only. Leave Vipers alone There's a difference between "good" and "too good". Zerg has plenty of good units. The viper in its current state is too good against terran mech and air. because of its strength the raven needed to be buffed again and now tvz lategame is all about massing OP spellcasters. Can you name me two good units? We are getting rekt by anything in lategame... If you don't think zerg has any good units I won't be able to convince you otherwise so I don't even bother. Btw terran has no good units and protoss has no good units. Yeah sure : I guess : Marines are bad, Reaper are bad Medivac are bad Tank are bad (just 13 range, and 70 dmg) Wm are bad Liberators are bad Raven are bad And adept bad, Immortals bad, Phoenix bad, chargelots bad, archons bad, Hight templar bad, Disruptor bad, DT bad, WP bad, Carrier bad. Why don't you switch to zerg, we'll see if you will become the first sc2 player of the world as Zerg so easy and so strong ? ah you're right all t and p units are ridicolously strong while z units are all garbage and need to be buffed. my bad how couldn't I see it.. thanks for reminding me why I want to get out of those balance discussions No, you're missing the point zerg need strong units to deal with the strong units of the other race. It's not a big deal for you that terran has acess to a 13 range unit with just a factory ? Zerg must tech hive in order to get vipers and get a tank counter, but you can't make vikings or HT to counter vipers ? You want that zerg have to wait broodlords tech to have something able to counter tanks ?
I can't decide whether this is excellent trolling, or pointless whine. Every unit in the zerg tech tree is used by pros, and zerg isn't underperforming (zerg might even be OP as a whole with the many buffs they recieved with 3.8). Not a single zerg unit is bad at the moment.
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On December 05 2016 06:33 JackONeill wrote:Show nested quote +On December 05 2016 05:20 Tyrhanius wrote:On December 05 2016 05:06 Charoisaur wrote:On December 05 2016 04:52 Tyrhanius wrote:On December 04 2016 03:40 Charoisaur wrote:On December 03 2016 22:46 PharaphobiaSC wrote:On December 03 2016 21:52 Charoisaur wrote:On December 03 2016 18:07 Nerchio wrote: I am tired of Blizzard taking away any good units from Zerg and then you are left with mediocre only. Leave Vipers alone There's a difference between "good" and "too good". Zerg has plenty of good units. The viper in its current state is too good against terran mech and air. because of its strength the raven needed to be buffed again and now tvz lategame is all about massing OP spellcasters. Can you name me two good units? We are getting rekt by anything in lategame... If you don't think zerg has any good units I won't be able to convince you otherwise so I don't even bother. Btw terran has no good units and protoss has no good units. Yeah sure : I guess : Marines are bad, Reaper are bad Medivac are bad Tank are bad (just 13 range, and 70 dmg) Wm are bad Liberators are bad Raven are bad And adept bad, Immortals bad, Phoenix bad, chargelots bad, archons bad, Hight templar bad, Disruptor bad, DT bad, WP bad, Carrier bad. Why don't you switch to zerg, we'll see if you will become the first sc2 player of the world as Zerg so easy and so strong ? ah you're right all t and p units are ridicolously strong while z units are all garbage and need to be buffed. my bad how couldn't I see it.. thanks for reminding me why I want to get out of those balance discussions No, you're missing the point zerg need strong units to deal with the strong units of the other race. It's not a big deal for you that terran has acess to a 13 range unit with just a factory ? Zerg must tech hive in order to get vipers and get a tank counter, but you can't make vikings or HT to counter vipers ? You want that zerg have to wait broodlords tech to have something able to counter tanks ? I can't decide whether this is excellent trolling, or pointless whine. Every unit in the zerg tech tree is used by pros, and zerg isn't underperforming (zerg might even be OP as a whole with the many buffs they recieved with 3.8). Not a single zerg unit is bad at the moment.
He has a valid point, while your doesn't. He wasn't even talking about the fact whether Z units are each good or bad. He's talking about why it requires Z to tech to T3 just to counter Terran's T2 unit, which makes 0 sense to me either. Terrans have the best of everything already - most flexibility, safest protection against all-ins, most cost efficient units, and now you're whining because he's bringing up a legit point about how Z needs superior tech unit + investment to beat a T lower tech unit?
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So does anyone know if they are planning to correct this patch and address:
swarmhosts hydralisks vipers infestor burrow cast invincible nydus adept shades warp prisms mass ravens mech anti-air mass reapers
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I've stopped playing SC2 up to a month after immortal nerf. The game is getting some major balance patches, so if I decide to learn it again, is there too much to learn? I play protoss.
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On December 05 2016 05:20 Tyrhanius wrote:Show nested quote +On December 05 2016 05:06 Charoisaur wrote:On December 05 2016 04:52 Tyrhanius wrote:On December 04 2016 03:40 Charoisaur wrote:On December 03 2016 22:46 PharaphobiaSC wrote:On December 03 2016 21:52 Charoisaur wrote:On December 03 2016 18:07 Nerchio wrote: I am tired of Blizzard taking away any good units from Zerg and then you are left with mediocre only. Leave Vipers alone There's a difference between "good" and "too good". Zerg has plenty of good units. The viper in its current state is too good against terran mech and air. because of its strength the raven needed to be buffed again and now tvz lategame is all about massing OP spellcasters. Can you name me two good units? We are getting rekt by anything in lategame... If you don't think zerg has any good units I won't be able to convince you otherwise so I don't even bother. Btw terran has no good units and protoss has no good units. Yeah sure : I guess : Marines are bad, Reaper are bad Medivac are bad Tank are bad (just 13 range, and 70 dmg) Wm are bad Liberators are bad Raven are bad And adept bad, Immortals bad, Phoenix bad, chargelots bad, archons bad, Hight templar bad, Disruptor bad, DT bad, WP bad, Carrier bad. Why don't you switch to zerg, we'll see if you will become the first sc2 player of the world as Zerg so easy and so strong ? ah you're right all t and p units are ridicolously strong while z units are all garbage and need to be buffed. my bad how couldn't I see it.. thanks for reminding me why I want to get out of those balance discussions No, you're missing the point zerg need strong units to deal with the strong units of the other race. It's not a big deal for you that terran has acess to a 13 range unit with just a factory ? Zerg must tech hive in order to get vipers and get a tank counter, but you can't make vikings or HT to counter vipers ? You want that zerg have to wait broodlords tech to have something able to counter tanks ?
For unit that is (fianlly) strong the tank also has many weaknesses.
Fight them out of position. Attack at different places to force resieges. Nydus worms. Overlord drops. Hydras well spread and in a concave decimate tanks. Lings are obviously greath but again it comes to how you take fights since theres bound to be hellbats.
And obiously, SH a T2 unit that cost only 100/75/2.
Sure a bunch of these options aren't as good as others but tanks are not some godtier unit that can only be countered by mass air armies.
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On December 03 2016 07:20 avilo wrote:Show nested quote +On December 03 2016 06:35 Liquid`Snute wrote: Can't colossus start with 7 range instead of 6? What about trimming off 15-20% of thermal lance time? Modifying damage to 12+4 light is so extreme, what about +2 vs light damage and take it from there?
I would also bring Interceptor cost up to 10 (at least). It trades too well at max and killing interceptors isn't even an option now. Only to win by the no-interceptors-left-push-forward condition. Carrier should spawn with 8 interceptors too because they are too weak initially. You already spent a century building the thing so it should spawn with 8. Gravaton catapult upgrade should be removed and launch fire rate should be put somewhere betwen before and after upgrades. For defensive purposes, carriers should be able to build interceptors faster, especially if you reduce the launch fire rate I think this would help battles become more fair. Carrier strength is too binary.
About Viper. It HAS TO stay strong for Zerg to be able to defeat mech especially on medium size maps such as overgrowth.
Tweaking values won't change the fact that zerg is doing one of these: - Attacking head on with a big sky zerg/viper/transfuse based army, bursting out all spells - Taking small hit and run trades using viper spells and Consume continously (combos well with swarm host)
Simply nerfing the viper abilities won't solve the identity crisis of the viper. The unit by design is created to be in one of those modes and consume ENCOURAGES hit and run/over time play. If you remove that, you force straight up fights and thus possibly stale board state up until the point of combat. What do they want? A mobile hit and run ninja unit, or a big support caster for grand broodlord/corruptor/infestor viper? Because right now there is no doubt that Mass Raven destroys sky-zerg and that Mass Viper/Hydra/Swarmhost kill-them-before-they-get-there taking free trades is better. I do think Terran lategame is stronger than Zerg but it's impossible for them to reach that stage. So one should work on fixing both. Viper has been OP for years now. If anything parasitic bomb made it god tier and should never have been added because it makes vikings useless as a counter. Honestly both vipers and ravens needed to have their supply increased to around 4 years ago. These units are too cost efficient and the issue is when you get 10+ of either of them they take over the entire game. Making them cost more supply means you'd be able to get less of them in a maxed out army. TBH let's just all be real here - they are scapegoating random units now because they don't want to admit they made a massive mistake with the hydra, swarmhost, and infestor buffs. These units are at absurd levels of imbalance right now. Rather than make more problems by buffing collosus and nerfing vipers, they should revert all of the ridiculous Zerg changes they made and just admit they were wrong and made a mistake. Too bad we know that won't happen.
land your afflicted vikings, move the rest of them away. or do the fake landing nathanias does. or split because you have 10 fingers and I assume you play with a mouse.
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On December 05 2016 08:19 Lexender wrote:Show nested quote +On December 05 2016 05:20 Tyrhanius wrote:On December 05 2016 05:06 Charoisaur wrote:On December 05 2016 04:52 Tyrhanius wrote:On December 04 2016 03:40 Charoisaur wrote:On December 03 2016 22:46 PharaphobiaSC wrote:On December 03 2016 21:52 Charoisaur wrote:On December 03 2016 18:07 Nerchio wrote: I am tired of Blizzard taking away any good units from Zerg and then you are left with mediocre only. Leave Vipers alone There's a difference between "good" and "too good". Zerg has plenty of good units. The viper in its current state is too good against terran mech and air. because of its strength the raven needed to be buffed again and now tvz lategame is all about massing OP spellcasters. Can you name me two good units? We are getting rekt by anything in lategame... If you don't think zerg has any good units I won't be able to convince you otherwise so I don't even bother. Btw terran has no good units and protoss has no good units. Yeah sure : I guess : Marines are bad, Reaper are bad Medivac are bad Tank are bad (just 13 range, and 70 dmg) Wm are bad Liberators are bad Raven are bad And adept bad, Immortals bad, Phoenix bad, chargelots bad, archons bad, Hight templar bad, Disruptor bad, DT bad, WP bad, Carrier bad. Why don't you switch to zerg, we'll see if you will become the first sc2 player of the world as Zerg so easy and so strong ? ah you're right all t and p units are ridicolously strong while z units are all garbage and need to be buffed. my bad how couldn't I see it.. thanks for reminding me why I want to get out of those balance discussions No, you're missing the point zerg need strong units to deal with the strong units of the other race. It's not a big deal for you that terran has acess to a 13 range unit with just a factory ? Zerg must tech hive in order to get vipers and get a tank counter, but you can't make vikings or HT to counter vipers ? You want that zerg have to wait broodlords tech to have something able to counter tanks ? For unit that is (fianlly) strong the tank also has many weaknesses. Fight them out of position. Attack at different places to force resieges. Nydus worms. Overlord drops. Hydras well spread and in a concave decimate tanks. Lings are obviously greath but again it comes to how you take fights since theres bound to be hellbats. And obiously, SH a T2 unit that cost only 100/75/2. Sure a bunch of these options aren't as good as others but tanks are not some godtier unit that can only be countered by mass air armies.
And then put those tanks behind a gauntlet of liberators, widow mines, vikings, hellbats (heck, even ravens now), and none of those strategies work.
How absurd is it that instead of simply adjusting to a unit that evens the playing field, we have to hear incessant complaining from people who know one strategy that used to automatically win and it doesn't work the way it used to. Literally just a couple ghosts with snipe would deter the Zerg from poking in with the vipers. Such an easy unit to build tech-wise (yes, even when playing mech), and provides a one shot kill with greater range than the abduct. Wow! But, you know, I guess it's easier for most people to complain for years until Blizzard changes the game. If this one build I want to do doesn't work, it's not MY fault, the GAME must be unfair.
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On December 05 2016 09:29 _AK wrote:Show nested quote +On December 05 2016 08:19 Lexender wrote:On December 05 2016 05:20 Tyrhanius wrote:On December 05 2016 05:06 Charoisaur wrote:On December 05 2016 04:52 Tyrhanius wrote:On December 04 2016 03:40 Charoisaur wrote:On December 03 2016 22:46 PharaphobiaSC wrote:On December 03 2016 21:52 Charoisaur wrote:On December 03 2016 18:07 Nerchio wrote: I am tired of Blizzard taking away any good units from Zerg and then you are left with mediocre only. Leave Vipers alone There's a difference between "good" and "too good". Zerg has plenty of good units. The viper in its current state is too good against terran mech and air. because of its strength the raven needed to be buffed again and now tvz lategame is all about massing OP spellcasters. Can you name me two good units? We are getting rekt by anything in lategame... If you don't think zerg has any good units I won't be able to convince you otherwise so I don't even bother. Btw terran has no good units and protoss has no good units. Yeah sure : I guess : Marines are bad, Reaper are bad Medivac are bad Tank are bad (just 13 range, and 70 dmg) Wm are bad Liberators are bad Raven are bad And adept bad, Immortals bad, Phoenix bad, chargelots bad, archons bad, Hight templar bad, Disruptor bad, DT bad, WP bad, Carrier bad. Why don't you switch to zerg, we'll see if you will become the first sc2 player of the world as Zerg so easy and so strong ? ah you're right all t and p units are ridicolously strong while z units are all garbage and need to be buffed. my bad how couldn't I see it.. thanks for reminding me why I want to get out of those balance discussions No, you're missing the point zerg need strong units to deal with the strong units of the other race. It's not a big deal for you that terran has acess to a 13 range unit with just a factory ? Zerg must tech hive in order to get vipers and get a tank counter, but you can't make vikings or HT to counter vipers ? You want that zerg have to wait broodlords tech to have something able to counter tanks ? For unit that is (fianlly) strong the tank also has many weaknesses. Fight them out of position. Attack at different places to force resieges. Nydus worms. Overlord drops. Hydras well spread and in a concave decimate tanks. Lings are obviously greath but again it comes to how you take fights since theres bound to be hellbats. And obiously, SH a T2 unit that cost only 100/75/2. Sure a bunch of these options aren't as good as others but tanks are not some godtier unit that can only be countered by mass air armies. And then put those tanks behind a gauntlet of liberators, widow mines, vikings, hellbats (heck, even ravens now), and none of those strategies work.
Thats has nothing to do with the situation that was being discussed.
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On December 05 2016 07:56 avilo wrote: So does anyone know if they are planning to correct this patch and address:
swarmhosts hydralisks vipers infestor burrow cast invincible nydus adept shades warp prisms mass ravens mech anti-air mass reapers
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They planning to continue ignoring you which seems to be best idea they ever had :^)
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Why do they refuse to give Colossus default range? It would both open mid game tech variety and discourage late game Colossi massing than a straight damage buff would.
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Don't buff colossi you mad men
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Maybe Don Draper is on the balance team.
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On December 05 2016 07:26 parkufarku wrote:Show nested quote +On December 05 2016 06:33 JackONeill wrote:On December 05 2016 05:20 Tyrhanius wrote:On December 05 2016 05:06 Charoisaur wrote:On December 05 2016 04:52 Tyrhanius wrote:On December 04 2016 03:40 Charoisaur wrote:On December 03 2016 22:46 PharaphobiaSC wrote:On December 03 2016 21:52 Charoisaur wrote:On December 03 2016 18:07 Nerchio wrote: I am tired of Blizzard taking away any good units from Zerg and then you are left with mediocre only. Leave Vipers alone There's a difference between "good" and "too good". Zerg has plenty of good units. The viper in its current state is too good against terran mech and air. because of its strength the raven needed to be buffed again and now tvz lategame is all about massing OP spellcasters. Can you name me two good units? We are getting rekt by anything in lategame... If you don't think zerg has any good units I won't be able to convince you otherwise so I don't even bother. Btw terran has no good units and protoss has no good units. Yeah sure : I guess : Marines are bad, Reaper are bad Medivac are bad Tank are bad (just 13 range, and 70 dmg) Wm are bad Liberators are bad Raven are bad And adept bad, Immortals bad, Phoenix bad, chargelots bad, archons bad, Hight templar bad, Disruptor bad, DT bad, WP bad, Carrier bad. Why don't you switch to zerg, we'll see if you will become the first sc2 player of the world as Zerg so easy and so strong ? ah you're right all t and p units are ridicolously strong while z units are all garbage and need to be buffed. my bad how couldn't I see it.. thanks for reminding me why I want to get out of those balance discussions No, you're missing the point zerg need strong units to deal with the strong units of the other race. It's not a big deal for you that terran has acess to a 13 range unit with just a factory ? Zerg must tech hive in order to get vipers and get a tank counter, but you can't make vikings or HT to counter vipers ? You want that zerg have to wait broodlords tech to have something able to counter tanks ? I can't decide whether this is excellent trolling, or pointless whine. Every unit in the zerg tech tree is used by pros, and zerg isn't underperforming (zerg might even be OP as a whole with the many buffs they recieved with 3.8). Not a single zerg unit is bad at the moment. He has a valid point, while your doesn't. He wasn't even talking about the fact whether Z units are each good or bad. He's talking about why it requires Z to tech to T3 just to counter Terran's T2 unit, which makes 0 sense to me either. Terrans have the best of everything already - most flexibility, safest protection against all-ins, most cost efficient units, and now you're whining because he's bringing up a legit point about how Z needs superior tech unit + investment to beat a T lower tech unit?
How clueless about the game do you have to be for whining about terran vs zerg tech trees? How many BCs, thors, even ghosts have you seen recently in TvZ pro games? How many terrans have you seen winning after T3 was out for zerg before the 3.8? Having to tech up isn't necessarly a weakness. Hydras (pre-patch and post-patch) shred thors and BCs : T2>T3. Swaths of lings counter cyclones : T1>T2. Corruptors counter BCs, T2>T3. Now do you want me too to go "booohoo hoo terran terran tech is getting destroyed by zerg basic units OP OP OP"? No because that's how the game works. Tech prevents how early and how massable an unit is. I doesn't prevent lower tech units from dealing with it. Are you gonna cry over T2 immortals countering T3 ultras and thors next?
Zerg got insane buffs going their way for this patch. Crying about it, when by every metric you can find zerg is doing extremely well with 3.8, is at an unreachable level of bias. And terran got buffs too, and some of them are too strong : the 24 dmg turret is ridiculous, and the cyclone cheeses, that are already too strong, are gonna get even worse with the next patch. Protoss got the short end of the stick, and frankly there isn't much protoss whine because they all left, which is understandable when PvZ is in the state it is.
So stop denying yourself any kind of perspective about how the game works as a whole, go play terran or protoss on the ladder, and come back maybe, just maybe, a little more informed.
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On December 05 2016 08:33 NEEDZMOAR wrote:Show nested quote +On December 03 2016 07:20 avilo wrote:On December 03 2016 06:35 Liquid`Snute wrote: Can't colossus start with 7 range instead of 6? What about trimming off 15-20% of thermal lance time? Modifying damage to 12+4 light is so extreme, what about +2 vs light damage and take it from there?
I would also bring Interceptor cost up to 10 (at least). It trades too well at max and killing interceptors isn't even an option now. Only to win by the no-interceptors-left-push-forward condition. Carrier should spawn with 8 interceptors too because they are too weak initially. You already spent a century building the thing so it should spawn with 8. Gravaton catapult upgrade should be removed and launch fire rate should be put somewhere betwen before and after upgrades. For defensive purposes, carriers should be able to build interceptors faster, especially if you reduce the launch fire rate I think this would help battles become more fair. Carrier strength is too binary.
About Viper. It HAS TO stay strong for Zerg to be able to defeat mech especially on medium size maps such as overgrowth.
Tweaking values won't change the fact that zerg is doing one of these: - Attacking head on with a big sky zerg/viper/transfuse based army, bursting out all spells - Taking small hit and run trades using viper spells and Consume continously (combos well with swarm host)
Simply nerfing the viper abilities won't solve the identity crisis of the viper. The unit by design is created to be in one of those modes and consume ENCOURAGES hit and run/over time play. If you remove that, you force straight up fights and thus possibly stale board state up until the point of combat. What do they want? A mobile hit and run ninja unit, or a big support caster for grand broodlord/corruptor/infestor viper? Because right now there is no doubt that Mass Raven destroys sky-zerg and that Mass Viper/Hydra/Swarmhost kill-them-before-they-get-there taking free trades is better. I do think Terran lategame is stronger than Zerg but it's impossible for them to reach that stage. So one should work on fixing both. Viper has been OP for years now. If anything parasitic bomb made it god tier and should never have been added because it makes vikings useless as a counter. Honestly both vipers and ravens needed to have their supply increased to around 4 years ago. These units are too cost efficient and the issue is when you get 10+ of either of them they take over the entire game. Making them cost more supply means you'd be able to get less of them in a maxed out army. TBH let's just all be real here - they are scapegoating random units now because they don't want to admit they made a massive mistake with the hydra, swarmhost, and infestor buffs. These units are at absurd levels of imbalance right now. Rather than make more problems by buffing collosus and nerfing vipers, they should revert all of the ridiculous Zerg changes they made and just admit they were wrong and made a mistake. Too bad we know that won't happen. land your afflicted vikings, move the rest of them away. or do the fake landing nathanias does. or split because you have 10 fingers and I assume you play with a mouse. I thought they already patched out the Viking fake landing interaction with Parasitic Bomb after the last patch
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I reckon they should find a new role for the Swarm Host, before changing to much of other units like the Viper. The issue is that they gave the Viper 4 spells suddenly, it's no surprise that this unit is way too all purpose and that getting too many of these is almost never a mistake. This is a unit that already defied all logic and didn't get it's own Tech Building, since initially it was meant as a Detector unit. I think it should definitely give 1 of it's spells to another unit, though I'm not sure which yet, this depends on what the Swarm Host ends up being.
5 Cost Interceptor and the idea that we can deal with smaller numbers than 25, suddenly gives the Swarm Host potential. Imagine a Swarm Host which is not idle for 80% of the time, amazing right?!
Swarm Host could get an auto-toggle ability, which spawns Eggs on the Swarm Host's back, 1 pr. 10 sec or so and it costs 5-10 Minerals. There would be a max number of Eggs on it's back, lets say 5. Then you have 3 spawn abilities, which spends ALL of your eggs on the unit you select. 1. is Scourge (cheap anti air.) 2. is Burrow Locusts (Harassment tool, does heavy damage to buildings.) 3. is Broodlings (mass spawn army, completely gets destroyed by splash damage.) Mb it's too much, but there's much more potential for this unit when there's cost, since it removes the issue of having 4 hour games, thereby no need to heavily under stat the unit in the first place.
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Russian Federation473 Posts
well i love mech but i feel they went too far this time
out of 10 games played after 3.8 i won 10
tanks seem unbreakable, you defend everything, expand to 4-5 bases, build up a bc fleet, and win
i know i'm only diamond, but 10/10 means something
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Russian Federation473 Posts
battlecruisers en masse are truly invincible, at least in tvt kill stuff with yamato, teleport behind tank& turret lines, repair, repeat after 71 s
or just kill with brute force
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On December 05 2016 18:53 Ganseng wrote: well i love mech but i feel they went too far this time
out of 10 games played after 3.8 i won 10
tanks seem unbreakable, you defend everything, expand to 4-5 bases, build up a bc fleet, and win
i know i'm only diamond, but 10/10 means something
Keep playing then, you'll hit masters soon with your 10/10 win rate and then you'll understand how broken Zerg Hive tech is vs Mech when you start playing vs competent Zerg players.
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Demotions on ladder this season
There was some discussion/confusion regarding demotions at the start of this season so we wanted to provide some clarification. Last season was the first time that we bootstrapped your off-races to the MMR of your main race due to the introduction of separate MMR per race. This potentially caused players to rank higher than their actual skill level on their off-races. At the start of this season, the boundaries automatically adjusted to the correct values, so many players at the higher levels of the ladder were seeing lower ranks than they did toward the end of last season. We expect player rankings to continue becoming more accurate over time.
Can someone ELI5 to me? I don't get it
Edit: Nvm, this graph explains it all: http://www.rankedftw.com/stats/leagues/1v1/#v=2&r=0&sx=a
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