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phodacbiet
Profile Joined August 2010
United States1740 Posts
November 01 2016 00:23 GMT
#101
So what balance are we looking at specifically? How balanced PvP is? Because I fail to see how having only 2z and 4t compared to 10p will help with "balance." Would be super funny if all the Zerg and T knock each other out by having zvz/zvt in the ro16 and then round of 8 will just be 8 Protoss. PvP will be very balance because Protoss has 50% win rate.
The_Red_Viper
Profile Blog Joined August 2013
19533 Posts
November 01 2016 00:25 GMT
#102
On November 01 2016 09:09 Elentos wrote:
I wonder how many complaints about the player pool this would have gotten if I left out the part about the new balance patch.

It would be bad no matter what. It being played on the balance changes makes it even worse though.
I mean new content is great, but why is it so hard to do it the right way? It's hard to do it worse
IU | Sohyang || There is no God and we are his prophets | For if ‘Thou mayest’—it is also true that ‘Thou mayest not.” | Ignorance is the parent of fear |
breaker1328
Profile Joined March 2016
Canada298 Posts
November 01 2016 00:27 GMT
#103
On November 01 2016 03:45 Fran_ wrote:
The patient is still breathing. The prognosis is still very negative though.


Prognosis negative is a good thing.
stuchiu
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
Fiddler's Green42661 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-11-01 00:40:44
November 01 2016 00:40 GMT
#104
On November 01 2016 08:27 SetGuitarsToKill wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 01 2016 08:03 Solar424 wrote:
On November 01 2016 07:37 Jett.Jack.Alvir wrote:
lol Myungsik is the Bo Jackson of esports i guess.

More of a Michael Jordan for now

Ya lol, he has to actually be successful in both games before he's Bo Jackson.


given how he plays SC2, he doesnt need a lot of practice. He just needs to think.

I wonder if 10 protoss is trying to tell us something about how GSL is predicting the future of the patch.
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TheWinks
Profile Joined July 2011
United States572 Posts
November 01 2016 01:43 GMT
#105
They may as well not hold this tournament with so many protoss. Just arrange show matches with a bunch of non mirrors instead. Mirrors aren't even really important when it comes to balance patches anyway.

It's a waste of time, effort, and money. I don't think many people will watch it either unless most of the non protoss go on a major run.
-Archangel-
Profile Joined May 2010
Croatia7457 Posts
November 01 2016 02:02 GMT
#106
On October 31 2016 20:56 Scrubwave wrote:
Show nested quote +
showcasing new balance

Heehee, is the representation supposed to be some commentary?

My guess is that if a non protoss manages to get through 10 toss, Blizzard will consider their balance job well done.
Spect8rCraft
Profile Joined December 2012
649 Posts
November 01 2016 04:42 GMT
#107
Blizzard got a shoe endorsement?
proortoss
Profile Joined October 2016
China14 Posts
November 01 2016 05:24 GMT
#108
looking forward to the tournament , can't waiting to see blink DT...
nut cracker
Jett.Jack.Alvir
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
Canada2250 Posts
November 01 2016 05:29 GMT
#109
On November 01 2016 13:42 Spect8rCraft wrote:
Blizzard got a shoe endorsement?

lol I thought the same thing.
WidowMineHero
Profile Joined September 2014
New Zealand143 Posts
November 01 2016 06:36 GMT
#110
Why are there 10 protoss players?
"Time won't change anything, I will."
Scrubwave
Profile Joined July 2010
Poland1786 Posts
November 01 2016 06:52 GMT
#111
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papaz
Profile Joined December 2009
Sweden4149 Posts
November 01 2016 08:49 GMT
#112
Rofl at that lineup.

You should not have such an uneven distributed lineup for a "balance tournamen".

Just have a lot of showmatches instead if you can't find enough zerg and terran players.
Elentos
Profile Blog Joined February 2015
55561 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-11-01 11:14:40
November 01 2016 08:51 GMT
#113
On November 01 2016 09:25 The_Red_Viper wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 01 2016 09:09 Elentos wrote:
I wonder how many complaints about the player pool this would have gotten if I left out the part about the new balance patch.

It would be bad no matter what. It being played on the balance changes makes it even worse though.
I mean new content is great, but why is it so hard to do it the right way? It's hard to do it worse

Hey, maybe they'll do a second one some time with the other half of the Korean pro scene. (I mean this quite literally by the way, the active Korean pro scene is small enough that 16 might as well be half of it)

The amount of people in this thread saying "Well I'd rather have no tournament at all than a tournament with bad racial distribution" is mind-boggling to me.
Every 60 seconds in Africa, a minute passes.
otzowski
Profile Joined July 2012
Germany26 Posts
November 01 2016 13:48 GMT
#114
very balanced race lineup lol ...tosscraft 2 #deadgame

User was warned for this post
The_Red_Viper
Profile Blog Joined August 2013
19533 Posts
November 01 2016 15:09 GMT
#115
On November 01 2016 17:51 Elentos wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 01 2016 09:25 The_Red_Viper wrote:
On November 01 2016 09:09 Elentos wrote:
I wonder how many complaints about the player pool this would have gotten if I left out the part about the new balance patch.

It would be bad no matter what. It being played on the balance changes makes it even worse though.
I mean new content is great, but why is it so hard to do it the right way? It's hard to do it worse

Hey, maybe they'll do a second one some time with the other half of the Korean pro scene. (I mean this quite literally by the way, the active Korean pro scene is small enough that 16 might as well be half of it)

The amount of people in this thread saying "Well I'd rather have no tournament at all than a tournament with bad racial distribution" is mind-boggling to me.

I like new content, a new tournament. But i also think that it should be reasonably easy to do it in a decent way.
This racial balance isn't decent, it's horrible and quite frankly destroys hype. I simply cannot understand how they can come to the conclusion that this is ok. That's mind-boggling to me
I will still watch it ofc, but yeah i am hugely disappointed atm.
IU | Sohyang || There is no God and we are his prophets | For if ‘Thou mayest’—it is also true that ‘Thou mayest not.” | Ignorance is the parent of fear |
BelgianSC
Profile Joined October 2016
Belgium19 Posts
November 01 2016 15:22 GMT
#116
I'll probably take a look at the VOD's to see the non PvP matchups.
I do like that they're bringing out a new tournament, but I feel the racial distribution could have been better.

That said, glad they are bringing content!
Scan, GG. Then I make Raven.
Beelzebub1
Profile Joined May 2015
1004 Posts
November 01 2016 16:17 GMT
#117
Wow, I'll be skipping this tournament, nothing like 5 PvP, hopefully they at least arrange it so non of the other races have a mirror with eachother so it somewhat balances the race distribution.

BaneRiders
Profile Joined August 2013
Sweden3630 Posts
November 01 2016 17:51 GMT
#118
On November 01 2016 15:36 WidowMineHero wrote:
Why are there 10 protoss players?


I think they are compensating (possibly overcompensating) for the lack of foreigners in the tournament.
Earth, Water, Air and Protoss!
Probe1
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States17920 Posts
November 01 2016 17:56 GMT
#119
I don't think PvP is a bad match up but this will be a bit too much.

Still, I feel like I'm always seeing a lot more zergs qualify for tournaments then get turfed out until there's only a handful left. I'll be surprised if there's PvP in the semi finals/finals.
우정호 KT_VIOLET 1988 - 2012 While we are postponing, life speeds by
JimSocks
Profile Joined February 2009
United States968 Posts
November 01 2016 18:04 GMT
#120
i don't know how i feel about it. everybody in the west knows how strong zerg was but korean zergs were just complaining like hell. and now we are starting to see foreigners beat koreans consistantly because foreigners play a different meta. but blizzard still balance towards koreans. and this lineup almost twice as many toss as the other races. what kind of balance testing is that? like all PvP?
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