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SetGuitarsToKill
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dragoon
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ZigguratOfUr
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On October 18 2016 10:02 Shellshock wrote: so the normal people? More or less. It's nice to see PiG and TB there. | ||
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Cricketer12
United States13969 Posts
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Nakajin
Canada8988 Posts
Lets do this, so hype for Blizzcon. | ||
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Gwavajuice
France1810 Posts
On October 18 2016 10:02 Shellshock wrote: so the normal people? Maynarde, TB, PiG are not that usual. The rest are ofc been there for ever, in the other hand they're kinda the best casters... Do we know who will be observing ? | ||
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KtJ
United States3514 Posts
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Garemie
United States248 Posts
Also no Valdes  | ||
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sc2chronic
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sc2chronic
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lichter
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SetGuitarsToKill
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He's gone, get over it people | ||
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Fran_
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SetGuitarsToKill
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Jesus christ | ||
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Mistakes
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showstealer1829
Australia3123 Posts
On October 18 2016 12:14 Mistakes wrote: I should be excited about this. B... but Proleague... and the KR teams... Same bro. I should be hyped, especially seeing guys like TB, PiG and Maynarde but with the news today I just can't bring myself to care | ||
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Phredxor
New Zealand15076 Posts
On October 18 2016 11:19 SetGuitarsToKill wrote: Fun Fact: they probably have more casters for this than there will be pro koreans by next year. Jesus christ Thats a pretty fun fact alright. This Blizzcon just gets sadder and sadder for me | ||
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Little-Chimp
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zealotstim
United States455 Posts
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TelecoM
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SpunXtain20
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ZigguratOfUr
Iraq16955 Posts
On October 18 2016 14:41 SpunXtain20 wrote: I wonder if blizzcon will be the final announcement for the end of Blizzard sc2 support? Itd be a fitting way to send the game off i think. Not happening. WCS will be around in some form or another for at least another year. The recent news from Korea is sure to enliven the November 4th SCII panels at the very least though. | ||
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halomonian
Brazil255 Posts
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SpunXtain20
Australia554 Posts
On October 18 2016 14:49 ZigguratOfUr wrote: Not happening. WCS will be around in some form or another for at least another year. The recent news from Korea is sure to enliven the November 4th SCII panels at the very least though. I honestly hope it is. Give SC2 a royal and grand farewell like it deserves. One last great tournament to end the great times. Dont let the dog run off quietly into the woods. | ||
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Musicus
Germany23576 Posts
Still a great crew as always. | ||
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sharkie
Austria18342 Posts
You could eliminate half of these casters and fund a whole Premier tournament with their salary and travel costs... | ||
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sc2chronic
United States777 Posts
On October 18 2016 15:35 sharkie wrote: The amount of casters is a joke. You could eliminate half of these casters and fund a whole Premier tournament with their salary and travel costs... youre breaking the golden rule of this site: never state the public opinion. trust me, even with the current news, all of these these guys will still say: "sc2 in korea is fine". | ||
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Sharkken
Jordan141 Posts
I don't know why they keep inviting iNcontol??!! | ||
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fLyiNgDroNe
Belgium3996 Posts
would have loved to see Demuslim there as well (even tho he's not full-time commentator, i know) | ||
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Legobiten
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Phredxor
New Zealand15076 Posts
On October 18 2016 16:10 Sharkken wrote: Too many casters, they can do a great event with only 4. I don't know why they keep inviting iNcontol??!! If I had to guess it would be because people like him. | ||
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Grettin
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Probe1
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Elentos
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On October 18 2016 15:06 Musicus wrote: Would've liked to see Valdez and Wolf tbh, just because they cast so much sc2 the whole year, it would be nice to have them at the big final. Still a great crew as always. Yes. Honestly, to me it's actually really unfair that they don't get to cast Blizzcon. They casted so much this year compared to most of the others. And not just this year. They'd deserve the recognition. | ||
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Koivusto
Finland542 Posts
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Neptuneajax
Australia206 Posts
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ejozl
Denmark3340 Posts
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Elentos
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On October 18 2016 17:54 ejozl wrote: Guys.. this is a Blizzcon hype thread, get HYPED! It's a bad day to get hyped, man. | ||
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Matte3D
Sweden26 Posts
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Durnuu
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Happy to see TB though | ||
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Lightrush
Bulgaria164 Posts
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Phaenoman
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Elentos
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On October 18 2016 19:33 Phaenoman wrote: Invite 5 more casters/ hosts, then u'll have 1 for each participating player. Dude I love this idea. Every player gets a personal caster. | ||
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Clonester
Germany2808 Posts
Damn, the bad news dont stop. | ||
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sharkie
Austria18342 Posts
On October 18 2016 19:33 Phaenoman wrote: Invite 5 more casters/ hosts, then u'll have 1 for each participating player. And after the Ro16, just give every player 2 casters  | ||
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ClanWars
United States330 Posts
On October 18 2016 15:35 sharkie wrote: The amount of casters is a joke. You could eliminate half of these casters and fund a whole Premier tournament with their salary and travel costs... Hahahahahaha. In your dreams. | ||
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Highways
Australia6102 Posts
With the death of SC2 in Korea... | ||
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Dav1oN
Ukraine3164 Posts
ofc it's rly sad in terms of skill gap, but am fine having only foreigner scene, so w.e great lineup, could've been smaller one tho | ||
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AnythingThenDelete
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JimmyJRaynor
Canada16647 Posts
On October 18 2016 18:56 Lightrush wrote: I'd much rather have Wolf or Valdes instead of totalhalibut :/ TB adds variety and knows a lot about general video gaming relative to many of the other casters. if only 2 guys were casting then i'd choose Wolf over TB... but that's not the case here. | ||
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Thax
Belgium1060 Posts
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FueledUpAndReadyToGo
Netherlands30548 Posts
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lastride
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AbouSV
Germany1278 Posts
Oh, no, just about the usual. | ||
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Deleted User 3420
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This lineup is awesome. Blizzcon should be a great tournament. | ||
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AbouSV
Germany1278 Posts
It will be thanks to most of them, and mostly the players and the live public. Hype is for the tournament, not this announcement :p (On a side note, I hope we won't have to mute the stream every engagement and 'gg' when Tasteless casts.) | ||
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alukarD
Mexico396 Posts
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Elentos
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On October 18 2016 23:39 AbouSV wrote: Of course it will. It will be thanks to most of them, and mostly the players and the live public. Hype is for the tournament, not this announcement :p (On a side note, I hope we won't have to mute the stream every engagement and 'gg' when Tasteless casts.) Tasteless and Maynarde casting at the same time would probably be the SC2 casting equivalent of shotgun blast in terms of noise. | ||
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sparklyresidue
United States5523 Posts
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Noonius
Estonia17413 Posts
On October 19 2016 00:56 sparklyresidue wrote: I'm wondering if the players affected by the Korean news will be trying twice as hard to win to get what they might feel is a "final payout" or if all the wind will have gone from their sails. I was thinking about the same thing. Maybe that's why they are loading up on casters as well. To give people a chance to say farewell... Anyway, foreigners don't care. Their scene is still kicking. | ||
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Elentos
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Thax
Belgium1060 Posts
On October 19 2016 01:21 Noonius wrote: I was thinking about the same thing. Maybe that's why they are loading up on casters as well. To give people a chance to say farewell... Anyway, foreigners don't care. Their scene is still kicking. Blizzcon has always had this many casters, or close to it. | ||
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Akara12345
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Charoisaur
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geokilla
Canada8224 Posts
Honestly they should get rid of half of the casters... Really don't like some of them... | ||
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Penev
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On October 19 2016 01:26 Elentos wrote: I think everyone deals with this kind of issue differently. You can reasonably assume the players knew about this well in advance. Some players definitely still seem very motivated. I haven't seen Artur this motivated in years ;p Seriously tho, I'm sure you noticed a bit of quality drop in Korean SC2 this year as well? It was weird to see so many of them not adapting to LotV, it surely felt like a lot of them weren't as motivated as before.. | ||
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Ansibled
United Kingdom9872 Posts
On October 18 2016 19:53 Highways wrote: Blizzcon is not gonna feel right this year. With the death of SC2 in Korea... The death of proleague, until we know more about WCS next year I think it's probably to early to call it dead - or more dead than it was anyway. | ||
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Topdoller
United Kingdom3860 Posts
On October 19 2016 02:01 Charoisaur wrote: Wolf and valdes really should have been there. They have done so much for this game. Yeah those two really should be there, I am disappointed they arnt | ||
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Ve5pa
United Kingdom252 Posts
I'm so glad we've got the insight from Apollo, he knows so much about the Korean scene, especially how alive it is. Made up TB is there!! Go TB!! | ||
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Elentos
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On October 19 2016 02:04 Penev wrote: I haven't seen Artur this motivated in years ;p Seriously tho, I'm sure you noticed a bit of quality drop in Korean SC2 this year as well? It was weird to see so many of them not adapting to LotV, it surely felt like a lot of them weren't as motivated as before.. Obviously. But some are clearly still motivated to do well. E.g. Stats was said by CranK to still be super passionate and motivated for LotV (and he shows it with all his appearances in online cups). | ||
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JimmiC
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Noonius
Estonia17413 Posts
On October 19 2016 02:02 geokilla wrote: Why is Apollo the host and not a commentator? Honestly they should get rid of half of the casters... Really don't like some of them... he sold out long time ago. He's one of the suits over at ESL | ||
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The_Red_Viper
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On October 19 2016 02:54 JimmiC wrote: It must be a good line up because some hate the same guys others love. So with the variety you can hopefulyl watch the ones you like and avoid the ones you dislike. for me there is only 2 I would avoid, which isn't bad. Hard to avoid hosts | ||
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FueledUpAndReadyToGo
Netherlands30548 Posts
On October 19 2016 03:01 Noonius wrote: he sold out long time ago. He's one of the suits over at ESL Getting a stable job instead of the rough casting life = sold out? wow | ||
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ShowTheLights
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Majick
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JimmyJRaynor
Canada16647 Posts
On October 19 2016 03:37 FueledUpAndReadyToGo wrote: Getting a stable job instead of the rough casting life = sold out? wow when Apollo basically had "god" status on GR.Org and i was a nobody Apollo always helped me out. I can't speak for everyone... but for me Apollo is a super first class all around great guy. a bit of a party animal.. but hey... its video games.. i think we're supposed ot have some fun. if the guy decided to get a real job good for him. i wish him the best of success. its great to see Apollo at Blizzcon! | ||
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LazyTurtle1
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Dangermousecatdog
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MoonyD
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ClanWars
United States330 Posts
On October 19 2016 08:07 Dangermousecatdog wrote: That's a lot of casters. I feel that they can cut down on a lot of these such as incontrol or TB who seem to just hog the attention. Ahh yes hogging all that attention when the only thing I even cast is a tournament series and audience I built myself. Yeah sod off, I've been working my ass off for this scene for 6 years. I earned this. | ||
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Subflow
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but i know Grubby isnt playing sc2 anymore, so its kinda obvious. | ||
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VHbb
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On October 19 2016 08:50 ClanWars wrote: Ahh yes hogging all that attention when the only thing I even cast is a tournament series and audience I built myself. Yeah sod off, I've been working my ass off for this scene for 6 years. I earned this. I'm really happy you will be at blizzcon TB, can't wait to listen to yours (and the others as well) casts!! I like the line up, I also really enjoy day9 but I imagine I may be a bit out of touch with the latest meta of sc2.. I don't understand the complaints about too many casters.. the more the better! They have different styles and personalities, and experience in different matchups and races.. ! | ||
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Probe1
United States17920 Posts
On October 19 2016 07:44 LazyTurtle1 wrote: Scratch all these guys......We want Klazart!!!! Oh my goodness that would be incredible. | ||
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[N3O]r3d33m3r
Germany673 Posts
On October 19 2016 08:07 Dangermousecatdog wrote: That's a lot of casters. I feel that they can cut down on a lot of these such as incontrol or TB who seem to just hog the attention. agree so much with this! | ||
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FiWiFaKi
Canada9858 Posts
I think this list is absolutely superb, and something here should fit everyone's tastes. When there's like a billion different permutations, surely there's something that could be slightly better... I'd probably switch out Incontrol for Wolf, but it's about as good as it gets for me. Looking forward to watching the 1 SC2 tourney that I never miss, even while moving away from the scene recently. | ||
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ClanWars
United States330 Posts
On October 19 2016 09:28 FiWiFaKi wrote: People complaining about too many casters, It's also an absurd complaint. Too many staff? Too much variety of opinion? Too many fresh, well rested broadcast personnel rather than a small set of exhausted, hoarse people? Do people forget that eSports events are absurdly long? You don't have people in real sports doing that much commentary in a day, it's exhausting work. You know what happens when you don't get enough casters? 14 hour+ days and tired, less enthusiastic people on the mic. Blizzcon doesn't pay much. The people on that table are doing it because they love it. Anyone who wanted to make a buck doing this job jumped ship a long time ago or starting working multiple games. When it comes to the budget of the WCS finals, the amount of money being spent on the casters is a drop in the bucket. | ||
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ZAiNs
United Kingdom6525 Posts
On October 19 2016 09:02 Subflow wrote: So they invited Tod, but no Grubby? thats just like Tasteless without Artosis but i know Grubby isnt playing sc2 anymore, so its kinda obvious.What? With all due respect, have you been living under a rock? ToD has been casting for years now, if anyone is his Tasteless it's Rotterdam. | ||
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FFW_Rude
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WhosQuany
Germany257 Posts
On October 18 2016 10:51 SetGuitarsToKill wrote: People who wanted Day9 would have been disappointed with his casting probably since he hasn't done it in so long. He's gone, get over it people yeah so sad but still sick line up | ||
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AbouSV
Germany1278 Posts
On October 19 2016 15:24 FFW_Rude wrote: Remember the last time when we got to 1000 pages before the start of Blizzcon ? Yeah. Well, let's get to work then, shall we? | ||
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Elentos
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On October 19 2016 08:31 MoonyD wrote: So what exactly happened to Day9? Has he just stopped casting sc2 now? I understand it's probably more profitable to do dailys/casts for games that will give him more viewship and higher pay. But this is BLIZZCON... Thought he'd show for at least the 'biggest' sc2 event of the year. He stopped doing SC2 content forever ago, I was honestly surprised he was there for the previous Blizzcon. At this point he'd be a better fit to host Hearthstone. | ||
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DSK
England1110 Posts
On October 18 2016 11:19 SetGuitarsToKill wrote: Fun Fact: they probably have more casters for this than there will be pro koreans by next year. Jesus christ Damnit SGTK and here I was thinking I had a handle on the situation and now your comment makes the tears flow freely again *shakes fist* OP: So pretty much everyone who's commented at live events? I see a distinct lack of Redeye On October 19 2016 10:40 ZAiNs wrote: What? With all due respect, have you been living under a rock? ToD has been casting for years now, if anyone is his Tasteless it's Rotterdam. A close second would probably be Kaelaris. | ||
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beentheredonethat
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On October 19 2016 07:03 JimmyJRaynor wrote: when Apollo basically had "god" status on GR.Org and i was a nobody Apollo always helped me out. I can't speak for everyone... but for me Apollo is a super first class all around great guy. a bit of a party animal.. but hey... its video games.. i think we're supposed ot have some fun. if the guy decided to get a real job good for him. i wish him the best of success. its great to see Apollo at Blizzcon! Apollo is, with Tastosis and Day9, my absolute favourite. I want babies from that lad. | ||
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Elentos
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Still no excuse for lack of Valdes. | ||
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iNcontroL
USA29055 Posts
On October 19 2016 09:28 FiWiFaKi wrote: People complaining about too many casters, and only having the tried and true casters that are quite universally liked, oh man. I think this list is absolutely superb, and something here should fit everyone's tastes. When there's like a billion different permutations, surely there's something that could be slightly better... I'd probably switch out Incontrol for Wolf, but it's about as good as it gets for me. Looking forward to watching the 1 SC2 tourney that I never miss, even while moving away from the scene recently. I love these threads. People say such dumb stuff it makes me feel all warm and cozy inside. Anyways, I will be there and it will be fine. THANKS LOVE | ||
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Charoisaur
Germany15883 Posts
On October 20 2016 01:34 iNcontroL wrote: I love these threads. People say such dumb stuff it makes me feel all warm and cozy inside. Anyways, I will be there and it will be fine. THANKS LOVE don't know why people focus on the few trolls amongst so many positive comments. | ||
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The_Red_Viper
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Not everybody will appreciate what you do no matter what, obviously you guys know that and thus my comment is kinda useless to begin with, but cmon -.- Personally i am happy to have you and TB at Blizzcon (to name both who posted here), at the same time i could live without others. It's natural | ||
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loko822
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In no other sport I ever watched I could say the commentators are as good as in sc2. Its a mix of knowing what they do, doing it with passion while at the same time every single one seems to be a nice person. Cant ask for more whatever they get paid they deserve more. | ||
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ClanWars
United States330 Posts
On October 20 2016 01:40 The_Red_Viper wrote: I know i would probably react the same way but it still surprises me every single time when community figures actually engage with "haters" or rather negative opinions that way, especially when it's by far in the minority. Not everybody will appreciate what you do no matter what, obviously you guys know that and thus my comment is kinda useless to begin with, but cmon -.- Personally i am happy to have you and TB at Blizzcon (to name both who posted here), at the same time i could live without others. It's natural Over 6 years of that bullshit tests your patience. People have been saying this since 2010. 6 years, a lot of sacrifices, a ton of passion poured into a scene that could have gone somewhere far more profitable, that's enough in my eyes to earn my place in this scene. There's no reason to tolerate the nonsensical lies, misrepresentations and non-constructive criticism people bring to these conversations. I've got beyond the point where I'm just gonna act like I'm ok with people pissing on my passion. I'm not here because I have to be. | ||
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iNcontroL
USA29055 Posts
On October 20 2016 01:39 Charoisaur wrote: don't know why people focus on the few trolls amongst so many positive comments. No, you don't know. It's impossible to get someone to understand what it is like to have someone _hate_ or dislike you for doing what you love the way you do it and randomly comment on it at every chance. OR almost as bad have someone completely level-headed just off-hand be like "yeah, that guy? I wish he wasn't doing this event. I prefer X person." It's something you probably have 0 reference point to. Is it better to ignore them? Is it better to focus on the positive/ Yup. And I do that on a daily basis.. laughably, EVERY TIME I ever say ANYTHING about those who have nothing nice to say the same stupid shit gets said in response "I wish you'd just ignore it" or "man, you have thin skin!" Anyways, back to ignoring it all I guess! WEEEEEEEEEEE | ||
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gingerfluffmuff
Austria4570 Posts
. Hope the Archon will cast the most important games. TB also rulez.e: Also we need seriously some KR GM casters, ie: Moonglade had a few nice casts with lots of inside infos regarding the ZvX matches. | ||
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halomonian
Brazil255 Posts
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BisuDagger
Bisutopia19214 Posts
On October 20 2016 02:10 iNcontroL wrote: No, you don't know. It's impossible to get someone to understand what it is like to have someone _hate_ or dislike you for doing what you love the way you do it and randomly comment on it at every chance. OR almost as bad have someone completely level-headed just off-hand be like "yeah, that guy? I wish he wasn't doing this event. I prefer X person." It's something you probably have 0 reference point to. Is it better to ignore them? Is it better to focus on the positive/ Yup. And I do that on a daily basis.. laughably, EVERY TIME I ever say ANYTHING about those who have nothing nice to say the same stupid shit gets said in response "I wish you'd just ignore it" or "man, you have thin skin!" Anyways, back to ignoring it all I guess! WEEEEEEEEEEE I'm happy every one of you in the lineup are going to be there. Thank you for all your hard work over the years. I cannot say it enough. And all other contributors such as Valdes, Wolf, Basetrade crew, FearDragon, etc. will be missed but just know I love you guys too. | ||
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HsDLTitich
Italy830 Posts
On October 19 2016 09:02 Subflow wrote: So they invited Tod, but no Grubby? thats just like Tasteless without Artosis but i know Grubby isnt playing sc2 anymore, so its kinda obvious.Grubby never even played Legacy of the Void, he just plays Heroes and WC3 now. | ||
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iNcontroL
USA29055 Posts
On October 20 2016 03:07 BisuDagger wrote: I'm happy every one of you in the lineup are going to be there. Thank you for all your hard work over the years. I cannot say it enough. And all other contributors such as Valdes, Wolf, Basetrade crew, FearDragon, etc. will be missed but just know I love you guys too. <3 | ||
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JimmyJRaynor
Canada16647 Posts
On October 20 2016 02:10 iNcontroL wrote: No, you don't know. It's impossible to get someone to understand what it is like to have someone _hate_ or dislike you for doing what you love the way you do it and randomly comment on it at every chance. OR almost as bad have someone completely level-headed just off-hand be like "yeah, that guy? I wish he wasn't doing this event. I prefer X person." It's something you probably have 0 reference point to. Is it better to ignore them? Is it better to focus on the positive/ Yup. And I do that on a daily basis.. laughably, EVERY TIME I ever say ANYTHING about those who have nothing nice to say the same stupid shit gets said in response "I wish you'd just ignore it" or "man, you have thin skin!" Anyways, back to ignoring it all I guess! WEEEEEEEEEEE ya thing is you're an agent of Blizzard at BlizzCon. i'm a customer. i pay money to Blizzard for the purposes of entertainment. Blizzard actively requests feedback. "Every Voice Matters" is right in their mission statement. i'm 100% satisfied with the caster lineup. However, if another Blizzard customer does not like the caster lineup i think they should be able to voice their opinion without worrying if it bothers Blizzard's agents or employees. If someone does not want a person in the caster lineup because it negatively impacts their viewing experience they should say so. If a great many Blizzard customers feel the same way Blizzard may alter the caster line up. any one who is the "face" of a large org like Blizzard has to take the bullets. MM, DK, CS, DB, Greg Black, they all take undeserved shots. its part of the job. i'm the face of my organization. i take the bullets. i'm paid to do it. when i see these irrational-hater-guys in person they don't have 1 damn thing to say to me. usually they avoid eye contact. When i get brutally tough, constructive criticism from other customers.... those guys.... they do talk to me face-to-face. they deliver their disapproval in a dignified, ruthless way and its sometimes not a fun conversation. But, i'm not getting paid to "have fun". Furthermore, when the criticism has merit and the communication is clear ...my product improves accordingly. i refuse to ignore criticism i "dont like". Welcome to the free market. | ||
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FiWiFaKi
Canada9858 Posts
I realize that just about every personality in the scene is valued, and has a place in someone's heart, but I was stating my preferences while being very happy with the line-up as a whole =/ | ||
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JimmyJRaynor
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iNcontroL
USA29055 Posts
What you are saying is people can say anything to anyone who is paid to do anything because they are a part of a business transaction.. that is incredibly dehumanizing and bad. Yeah, you CAN do that. My post was my fucking human reaction to that. Again, you literally have no reference point to this and can't understand. Me arguing with you on it moronic on my part. Me trying to communicate how this stuff makes me feel subjects me to MORE idiocy from people who want to dehumanize me and reduce me in everything I do. fuck it | ||
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iNcontroL
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FiWiFaKi
Canada9858 Posts
Have fun at Blizzcon. | ||
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BisuDagger
Bisutopia19214 Posts
On October 20 2016 05:36 iNcontroL wrote: god it boils me up when someone like jimmyjraynor or w/e the fuck explains to me how being a caster/working in the public works.. HE HAS NO CLUE. It's insane. Ok, back to not posting here it really only gets me angry. This is why you have a forum star, because instead of turning away you choose to wade through the bullshit. In a perfect world caster criticism would break down into 3 categories. I'll provide examples below. Technical: (if you feel that you must correct what a caster said) iNcontrol, I noticed you said Flash opened up two fact and even though it was fast you could see that he pulled his third scv off the gas once he started his first factory and actually went for fake double. Hope this helps for next time! Content: I know that both caster are protoss and protoss has been getting a lot of heavy focus in the last 3 games. Could you please try and show a little more zerg/terran action for those of us who want to learn about not so awesome races? Personal: iNcontrol, lately you've been extremely game focused. Every now and then it'd be great to hear about during game luls. or the opposite iNontrol, lately we've been hearing a lot about you, but not much about you co-caster. Could you throw out some leading questions so we can get to know x-caster better? From working with major businesses like Boeing I've had to learn how to be constructive in every comment I make. I'd be curious if you'd make tweaks to any of the above so it comes off better. | ||
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klimuszko
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Missing Valdez and wolf tho, especially after kespa cup being hyped so much. | ||
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Charoisaur
Germany15883 Posts
On October 20 2016 02:10 iNcontroL wrote: No, you don't know. It's impossible to get someone to understand what it is like to have someone _hate_ or dislike you for doing what you love the way you do it and randomly comment on it at every chance. OR almost as bad have someone completely level-headed just off-hand be like "yeah, that guy? I wish he wasn't doing this event. I prefer X person." It's something you probably have 0 reference point to. Is it better to ignore them? Is it better to focus on the positive/ Yup. And I do that on a daily basis.. laughably, EVERY TIME I ever say ANYTHING about those who have nothing nice to say the same stupid shit gets said in response "I wish you'd just ignore it" or "man, you have thin skin!" Anyways, back to ignoring it all I guess! WEEEEEEEEEEE All I wanted to say is that there are a ton of people liking you and your casting (like me) and it's not worth it to get angry about the few people that don't. Haters will always exist, everywhere and there's no way to change that. If you're already focusing on the positive things then that's fine and my comment was unnecessary, it just irritated me that your first TL post in like 6 month was in response to some of those haters. | ||
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bubak
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iNcontroL
USA29055 Posts
On October 20 2016 06:35 BisuDagger wrote: This is why you have a forum star, because instead of turning away you choose to wade through the bullshit. In a perfect world caster criticism would break down into 3 categories. I'll provide examples below. Technical: (if you feel that you must correct what a caster said) iNcontrol, I noticed you said Flash opened up two fact and even though it was fast you could see that he pulled his third scv off the gas once he started his first factory and actually went for fake double. Hope this helps for next time! Content: I know that both caster are protoss and protoss has been getting a lot of heavy focus in the last 3 games. Could you please try and show a little more zerg/terran action for those of us who want to learn about not so awesome races? Personal: iNcontrol, lately you've been extremely game focused. Every now and then it'd be great to hear about during game luls. or the opposite iNontrol, lately we've been hearing a lot about you, but not much about you co-caster. Could you throw out some leading questions so we can get to know x-caster better? From working with major businesses like Boeing I've had to learn how to be constructive in every comment I make. I'd be curious if you'd make tweaks to any of the above so it comes off better. 100000000000% correct. Not only is this preferred it is welcomed by myself and most of my peers I feel comfortable speaking for. If someone doesn't prefer the way I do my work and wants to express that like the above WHO AM I to be like.. "No! you MUST prefer my joking style!" but when someone is just like "yeah, I wish he wasn't there." They could very well MEAN exactly what you're saying but by not communicating it fully it just hurts and is empty of value beyond that. People are so damn quick to be like "nah man, it's the internet I can be as mean and vague as I want" but then whenever someone is like "That sucks!" they get defensive about it? Put more effort into it and you won't upset people.. if someone wants to explain in a constructive manner why they aren't favorable or prefer someone else that sits SO much better. Anyways I suspect a lot of people know this but the standard defenses are "don't tell me how to post!" even when the discussion is "please don't feel free to shit on me!" Ty for expressing this btw | ||
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FiWiFaKi
Canada9858 Posts
On October 20 2016 09:30 iNcontroL wrote: 100000000000% correct. Not only is this preferred it is welcomed by myself and most of my peers I feel comfortable speaking for. If someone doesn't prefer the way I do my work and wants to express that like the above WHO AM I to be like.. "No! you MUST prefer my joking style!" but when someone is just like "yeah, I wish he wasn't there." They could very well MEAN exactly what you're saying but by not communicating it fully it just hurts and is empty of value beyond that. People are so damn quick to be like "nah man, it's the internet I can be as mean and vague as I want" but then whenever someone is like "That sucks!" they get defensive about it? Put more effort into it and you won't upset people.. if someone wants to explain in a constructive manner why they aren't favorable or prefer someone else that sits SO much better. Anyways I suspect a lot of people know this but the standard defenses are "don't tell me how to post!" even when the discussion is "please don't feel free to shit on me!" Ty for expressing this btw But you know, when people type criticism of people, they don't necessarily expect the person you're criticising to read it. Like if I don't like Trump, and I'm talking to a friend, I likely to not give an explanation of that depth, because it's just not worth my time, and I just want to get my thoughts out, and I might say: "Fuck Trump", or "he doesn't respect women, fuck him". People aren't so much into academic discussion when they are kicking back in relaxing, so particularly in places like LR threads where if a commentator says something stupid they'll just say "wtf is he high", and so on. Yeah, this is public, and a friend's conversation isn't, but most people treat it in much the same way. So while I agree with you and BisuDagger that it'd be cool and all if everyone was able to talk in these ways, and maybe some places on the internet are immune to it because of harsh moderation, posting standards, whatever... But in most places that's just not possible, so I think thick skin + realizing supporters stay quiet while haters speak loudly is what you imo gotta do to keep a positive mental attitude. | ||
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Phredxor
New Zealand15076 Posts
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opisska
Poland8852 Posts
As for the guy who said that TB and InControl are in only to grab attention though (to which TB reacted on his slightly silly "I am not on TL anymore" account), yeah, that one was an asshole and deserves to be beaten to death by a top hat. | ||
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sharkie
Austria18342 Posts
On October 20 2016 13:44 opisska wrote: Honestly, I don't get it. The post that got InControL so worked up was a guy who plainly said that he likes Wolf more than him. So does InControL really think that people should not be allowed to have preferences for some casters? Or that everyone is obliged to prefer him? The "provide only constructive criticism" angle is silly, this is fucking entertainment, the viewers are expected to just personally like some casters more than other, by pure matter of taste and they do not need any logical argument for that. I agree that when people say "caster X is shit" without any qualification, that it is pretty awful and should be frowned upon, but that's not what happened. I still like InControl's casting as I have for many years (and I have always said that), but this entitled behavior really makes me like him less. I particularly hate the line of thinking "I am doing this out of passion, so you owe me respect", which is just a spoiled princess attitude - kinda surprising of InControL himself, the king of inappropriate humor. As for the guy who said that TB and InControl are in only to grab attention though (to which TB reacted on his slightly silly "I am not on TL anymore" account), yeah, that one was an asshole and deserves to be beaten to death by a top hat. Are you actually surprised that incontrol says things like that? He has always been this way. That's why the American spectators like him so much | ||
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rockdj911
14 Posts
Bring us a good show! That's all what we're hoping for Maybe for the last time indeed (for me at least, sc2 viewer from WOL). | ||
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Phaenoman
568 Posts
On October 20 2016 13:44 opisska wrote: Honestly, I don't get it. The post that got InControL so worked up was a guy who plainly said that he likes Wolf more than him. So does InControL really think that people should not be allowed to have preferences for some casters? Or that everyone is obliged to prefer him? The "provide only constructive criticism" angle is silly, this is fucking entertainment, the viewers are expected to just personally like some casters more than other, by pure matter of taste and they do not need any logical argument for that. I agree that when people say "caster X is shit" without any qualification, that it is pretty awful and should be frowned upon, but that's not what happened. I still like InControl's casting as I have for many years (and I have always said that), but this entitled behavior really makes me like him less. I particularly hate the line of thinking "I am doing this out of passion, so you owe me respect", which is just a spoiled princess attitude - kinda surprising of InControL himself, the king of inappropriate humor. Totally agree with you. There was no insulting. He was just stating that he prefers a person over another. | ||
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-Archangel-
Croatia7457 Posts
After each round of competition one casting pair is out. Best one gets to commentate the finals | ||
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zombieelephants
United States43 Posts
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NutriaKaiN
88 Posts
On October 18 2016 10:02 Shellshock wrote: so the normal people? all good casters, and you still complain wow lol. | ||
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washikie
United States752 Posts
On October 20 2016 21:55 rockdj911 wrote: More casters - the better. I don't always like Incontrol humor but... Overall he is fine caster I think, and obviously a professional. I would prefer double elimination bracket with more days of play and more games so we can experience every caster as much as we can. The only downfall of blizzcon I think, not enough starcraft that is Bring us a good show! That's all what we're hoping for Maybe for the last time indeed (for me at least, sc2 viewer from WOL). Yeah it's a shame so many games have to be played off the mak stage. Hopefully someone casts them and they post the vods. I can't rember who said it but I think some caster mentioned that some of the most epic games of sc2 have probably already happened but have gone totally unnoticed since they were played off stage, or in practice, or on ladder. | ||
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Parrek
United States893 Posts
On October 21 2016 04:31 washikie wrote: Yeah it's a shame so many games have to be played off the mak stage. Hopefully someone casts them and they post the vods. I can't rember who said it but I think some caster mentioned that some of the most epic games of sc2 have probably already happened but have gone totally unnoticed since they were played off stage, or in practice, or on ladder. All games will be live and casted. Blizzard started doing an opening weekend the week before Blizzcon to do the opening stages of tournaments. For SC2, all these players really only qualified for the Global Playoffs. They haven't formally made it to Blizzcon itself until they make it out of the group stages. 4, 4 man groups with 2 WCS circuit and 2 WCS Korea players in each group. GSL style Double elim. | ||
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ClaudeSc2
United States73 Posts
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ClaudeSc2
United States73 Posts
On October 21 2016 19:05 ClaudeSc2 wrote: Everytime iNcontroL is announced as a caster or host for an event he receives hate. The guy has achieved Nickelback status. I would never trade iNcontroL for Nickelback though. <3 | ||
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Antonidas
United States105 Posts
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Garemie
United States248 Posts
On October 22 2016 01:40 Antonidas wrote: LAST BLIZZCON. WOuldn't be surprised. It's a dame shame. Such a beuitiful, cerebrla, complex, entertaning game. The public will never know =[ It's definitely NOT the last Blizzcon. You probably meant last SC2 major at Blizzcon, which is extremely unlikely as well. | ||
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Musicus
Germany23576 Posts
On October 22 2016 02:46 Garemie wrote: It's definitely NOT the last Blizzcon. You probably meant last SC2 major at Blizzcon, which is extremely unlikely as well. Agreed, I would bet any amount of money that WCS and the WCS finals at BlizzCon next year will be just as big is in 2016. Now that they've finally added a store to the game, they won't suddenly stop to invest into sc2. SPL no longer being around has zero impact on WCS or the amount of money Blizzard will invest into sc2. | ||
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Musicus
Germany23576 Posts
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skatblast
United States784 Posts
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StronGerSC2
Spain20 Posts
German: TakeTV French: O’Gaming Russian: Alex007 Russian: Alex007 Swedish: VikingTV Polish: Zedd Polish: IndyStarCraft Polish: Emil Wieczorek Dutch: DutchStarCraftLeague Spanish (EUR): *StronGer Spanish (LATAM): RTM Portuguese (LATAM): Sefirofe Chinese (TW): Hong Kong Esports | ||
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Fango
United Kingdom8987 Posts
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romson87
Poland487 Posts
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JimmyJRaynor
Canada16647 Posts
On October 26 2016 03:23 Fango wrote: Is there any news on the closing ceremony this year? Usually they'd have announced a band by now i fear there is no band. | ||
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Elentos
55464 Posts
On October 26 2016 03:36 romson87 wrote: Can't really complain about the line-up but I really would like to see Wolf and Valdes there Wolf will be doing Heroes at Blizzcon (with, among others, Khaldor and Kaelaris) so that explains that. Still kinda sad about no Valdes. He casted a pretty impressive amount of games this year. | ||
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JimmyJRaynor
Canada16647 Posts
On October 20 2016 23:01 Phaenoman wrote: Totally agree with you. There was no insulting. He was just stating that he prefers a person over another. imagine if the phrase "orcs in space" got censored and banned because it hurt the feelings of the Blizzard employees. Where would we be. Often, the most stinging, insightful, and honest criticism leads to the most growth. Its clear Blizzard's comeback from "Orcs in Space" is one of Mike Morhaime's favourite eras in Blizzard's 25 year existence. in conclusion, i've played more than 10,000 games of SC2 and spent 100 hours playing Overwatch and i'm happy with the caster lineup and with BlizzCon 2016 in general. If there is no band at the end of BlizzCon.... the epic conclusion of BlizzCon 2016 might be the crowning of the SC2 world champion.... how cool would that be? | ||
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Azhrak
Finland1194 Posts
Edit: They will play in Burbank, CA. | ||
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