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Jer99
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
Canada8159 Posts
May 19 2016 22:39 GMT
#21
Thanks!
StrategyTaeJa #1 || @TL_Jer99 || "seeker seeked out his seeking"
Azhrak
Profile Joined January 2011
Finland1196 Posts
May 19 2016 22:51 GMT
#22
Thanks for the stats!

That downward trend in avg concurrent viewers per month is not that bad as it looks. Even if we had two events with 80k concurrent viewers in a month, but no player streams, the avg in a month would be 5.3k, less than we had last month (if I'm not completely misread the chart). Still, the number of events with above 15k concurrent viewers is declining too, and that is alarming for sure. However, using my previous example, the number then would just be 2, but no one would be concerned about the viewership.
starcraft2.fi
SuperHofmann
Profile Joined September 2013
Italy1741 Posts
May 19 2016 23:06 GMT
#23
There weren't proofs that Winter is a viewbotter? I remember it, now he is back?
Vasacast always in my <3
seemsgood
Profile Joined January 2016
5527 Posts
May 19 2016 23:09 GMT
#24
Avilo ftw.
AgentScholar
Profile Joined March 2016
United States39 Posts
May 19 2016 23:26 GMT
#25
In the past year, many people in China said that streaming causes (Chinese) player making less achievements than before. They say that players should be limited on streaming, so they will realize that they need to work harder to survive.
I admit that the situation is different in China compared to western countries and South Korea(where they have more advanced esport industry). But I am not opposed to Chinese players streaming, and I think that many of the foreigners(in Chinese perspective) should try watch their stream too, if they are as good as the streamers above.
So my point is, giving (Chinese) players worse treatment will not push them to make progress, let them stream because that's a normal thing.
Chinese American, starcraft devoted fan, translator, eSports and organizational middleman. I do research on Sc Lore.
Stijn
Profile Joined October 2010
Netherlands363 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-05-19 23:35:11
May 19 2016 23:33 GMT
#26
I have no way of independently verifying whether Winter's numbers are legit, just like I have no way of independently verifying whether anyone's numbers are legit. Therefore I will not exclude any streamer from the charts. Feel free to ignore those entries you do not believe to legitimately have the reported amount of viewers (unless the fault is with my report of course, in which case please do let me know). Please do not start another discussion on whether Winter should be included or not, I've read most of the previous ones and rehashing the arguments won't change my decision.

On May 20 2016 08:26 AgentScholar wrote:
So my point is, giving (Chinese) players worse treatment will not push them to make progress, let them stream because that's a normal thing.

Do you mean I should be including streamers on Douyu, etc as well? I decided not to as the numbers these services show are widely reported to be inaccurate (e.g. inflated).
http://www.fuzic.nl - Up-to-date viewer numbers for Starcraft 2 live streams
AgentScholar
Profile Joined March 2016
United States39 Posts
May 19 2016 23:55 GMT
#27
On May 20 2016 08:33 Stijn wrote:
Do you mean I should be including streamers on Douyu, etc as well? I decided not to as the numbers these services show are widely reported to be inaccurate (e.g. inflated).

No, I know douyu exaggerates their numbers(in a ridiculous way, once the viewer is even more than the population in China). I just think that your number can support what I think, if you don't mind, I will make a translation post on Chinese forum that I admin, and I will give reference link and credit to you.
Chinese American, starcraft devoted fan, translator, eSports and organizational middleman. I do research on Sc Lore.
ETisME
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
12542 Posts
May 20 2016 06:26 GMT
#28
I think it's fine to include winter. Him view botting or not doesn't change the overall trend so much.
其疾如风,其徐如林,侵掠如火,不动如山,难知如阴,动如雷震。
BronzeKnee
Profile Joined March 2011
United States5217 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-05-20 06:59:47
May 20 2016 06:55 GMT
#29
On May 20 2016 08:06 SuperHofmann wrote:
There weren't proofs that Winter is a viewbotter? I remember it, now he is back?


Winter was cleared by Twitch and Blizzard of viewbotting.

Only TL seemed to punish him seemingly without hard evidence.

Either way, he is very entertaining and makes the game relaxing.
xenonn40
Profile Joined October 2011
United States282 Posts
May 20 2016 07:21 GMT
#30
How is Forgg on the list? Isn't he in the army? Am I missing something?
SuperHofmann
Profile Joined September 2013
Italy1741 Posts
May 20 2016 07:41 GMT
#31
On May 20 2016 16:21 xenonn40 wrote:
How is Forgg on the list? Isn't he in the army? Am I missing something?

Well he streamed a lot in April, he just stopped the day he went to the army
Vasacast always in my <3
graNite
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
Germany4434 Posts
May 20 2016 07:42 GMT
#32
Every viewer count going down just makes me sad...
I wish Blizz would invest more into SC2s development. The ladder revamp takes too long, is too little too late. Seperate MMR per race is asked by the community for a long time and it is still not in the game. The long term fun is not there for the most players and Blizz is not adressing this issue.
The Coop missions are a good addition, but are only good for some time because you max your levels quite fast.
"Oink oink, bitches" - Tasteless on Pigbaby winning a map against Flash
xenonn40
Profile Joined October 2011
United States282 Posts
May 20 2016 07:49 GMT
#33
On May 20 2016 16:41 SuperHofmann wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 20 2016 16:21 xenonn40 wrote:
How is Forgg on the list? Isn't he in the army? Am I missing something?

Well he streamed a lot in April, he just stopped the day he went to the army


Oh, I am way out of the loop. I thought he went to the army a few months ago. Just started paying attention to TL again. Thanks.
RaiZ
Profile Blog Joined April 2003
2813 Posts
May 20 2016 07:55 GMT
#34
I don't understand the last chart. Why does it say concurrent ? And what are those numbers on top of every column ?
Man is least himself when he talks in his own person. Give him a mask, and he will tell you the truth. Oscar Wilde
fezvez
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
France3021 Posts
May 20 2016 09:01 GMT
#35
Yay, nice graphs! I love it
LDaVinci
Profile Joined May 2014
France130 Posts
May 20 2016 09:26 GMT
#36
I'm actually surprised that Ogaming has only 1 week of stream as they are running live continuously during the month. Sometimes it's a player stream but most of the time it's events or rebroadcast of events, with still around 200 viewers for the latter.
Those who refuse to become better, already stop being good
imre
Profile Blog Joined November 2011
France9263 Posts
May 20 2016 10:06 GMT
#37
I'm 100% sure that the website you're using has wrong figures.
Zest fanboy.
imre
Profile Blog Joined November 2011
France9263 Posts
May 20 2016 10:09 GMT
#38
On May 20 2016 18:26 LDaVinci wrote:
I'm actually surprised that Ogaming has only 1 week of stream as they are running live continuously during the month. Sometimes it's a player stream but most of the time it's events or rebroadcast of events, with still around 200 viewers for the latter.


We're live on twitch 160ish hours out of 168 possible every week
Zest fanboy.
bypLy
Profile Joined June 2013
757 Posts
May 20 2016 10:26 GMT
#39
great to see Winter up there on the list. he is such a passionate streamer and does a lot for the game and the community
HsDLTitich
Profile Blog Joined October 2012
Italy830 Posts
May 20 2016 10:35 GMT
#40
On May 20 2016 15:55 BronzeKnee wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 20 2016 08:06 SuperHofmann wrote:
There weren't proofs that Winter is a viewbotter? I remember it, now he is back?


Winter was cleared by Twitch and Blizzard of viewbotting.

Only TL seemed to punish him seemingly without hard evidence.

Either way, he is very entertaining and makes the game relaxing.


He also lost the NVidia sponsorship because of that reddit lynch mob. Yay.

btw he was also cleared by the TL staff a few months ago.
I used to organize tournaments for ESL Italy and referee Go4SC2s, WCSs, and IEMs for ESL SC2.
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