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Stijn
Profile Joined October 2010
Netherlands363 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-05-20 13:05:42
May 20 2016 10:55 GMT
#41
On May 20 2016 18:26 LDaVinci wrote:
I'm actually surprised that Ogaming has only 1 week of stream as they are running live continuously during the month. Sometimes it's a player stream but most of the time it's events or rebroadcast of events, with still around 200 viewers for the latter.

I looked into this, and it seems that for *very* long streaming sessions (such as OGaming's) the database couldn't actually hold all the information, and thus uptime was underreported. I've updated everything so at least the streaming times will be correct, but in some rare cases (0,05% of all sessions) the V*H/average/peak metrics might be off (they won't be in the future, now I've corrected the problem).

On May 20 2016 19:06 sAsImre wrote:
I'm 100% sure that the website you're using has wrong figures.

Can you elaborate?
http://www.fuzic.nl - Up-to-date viewer numbers for Starcraft 2 live streams
billynasty
Profile Joined October 2014
United States260 Posts
May 20 2016 11:15 GMT
#42
Wardi higher then ESL & WCS! This guy has become 1 of my favorite casters & works his butt off because he loves the game. He recently crossed the 100 subscribers on twitch benchmark & deserves more viewers & support in my opinion, & I was glad to see him move up the rankings like he did.

Here's to another month of Wardi casting events & finding success!
SC2Heart
i dont miss God but i sure miss Santa Claus
JokerAi
Profile Joined August 2012
Germany142 Posts
May 20 2016 11:32 GMT
#43
if people look with addblock is this included in the viewer nummbers?
http://www.twitch.tv/jokersfun
Voltz_sc21
Profile Joined August 2015
66 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-05-21 05:28:35
May 21 2016 05:28 GMT
#44
what is a "stickyrice" ? Never heard of this player before.
desRow
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
Canada2654 Posts
May 21 2016 05:39 GMT
#45
On May 20 2016 15:55 BronzeKnee wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 20 2016 08:06 SuperHofmann wrote:
There weren't proofs that Winter is a viewbotter? I remember it, now he is back?


Winter was cleared by Twitch and Blizzard of viewbotting.

Only TL seemed to punish him seemingly without hard evidence.

Either way, he is very entertaining and makes the game relaxing.


He wasnt cleared at all. He cannot be banned without proof of purchasing the viewbots himself. Therefore, Blizzard cannot disqualify him since those were twitch awards.

Also could you post the stats with the numbers of hours instead of days? number of hours are much easier to read than days in my opinion, Twitch stats and conti used this metric and it was great! thanks
http://twitch.tv/desrowfighting http://twitter.com/desrowfighting http://facebook.com/desrowfighting
NKexquisite
Profile Joined January 2009
United States911 Posts
May 21 2016 07:19 GMT
#46
The numbers in the far right column seem backwards to me, I feel like Scarlett should be +69, not -69.
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EvilSusan
Profile Joined June 2013
South Africa73 Posts
May 21 2016 12:23 GMT
#47
Weird, MaNa shows up at number 21 on your site, but isn't in your post?
http://www.fuzic.nl/rankings/streams/2016/month/4/players/
Or am I seeing things again? Many thanks for the post btw, always interesting to see
"It's 144hz. I tested it. It works." -Richard "R1CH" Stanway
LingBlingBling
Profile Joined December 2012
United States353 Posts
May 21 2016 20:12 GMT
#48
List is incorrect, just because you don't like a certain streamer for political reasons or Blizzard reasons does not mean you get to ignore them. Protech has been streaming with higher numbers and longer hours than majority of those people on your list and he is not included?

Come on now.
Remember our motto: We ain't got it.
Charoisaur
Profile Joined August 2014
Germany16102 Posts
May 21 2016 21:07 GMT
#49
On May 22 2016 05:12 LingBlingBling wrote:
List is incorrect, just because you don't like a certain streamer for political reasons or Blizzard reasons does not mean you get to ignore them. Protech has been streaming with higher numbers and longer hours than majority of those people on your list and he is not included?

Come on now.

Maybe you should read the list again?
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JimmyJRaynor
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada17931 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-05-21 21:43:38
May 21 2016 21:23 GMT
#50
On May 20 2016 15:55 BronzeKnee wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 20 2016 08:06 SuperHofmann wrote:
There weren't proofs that Winter is a viewbotter? I remember it, now he is back?

Winter was cleared by Twitch and Blizzard of viewbotting.
Only TL seemed to punish him seemingly without hard evidence.
Either way, he is very entertaining and makes the game relaxing.


Winter is just better at creating a community base of viewers and we all need to recognize his unique form of genius; no one else can contribute so little while having so many viewers! I was thinking Winter should offer a seminar series about how to build a community/viewer base. His "viewers" are all so well behaved, quiet, and totally silent in chat as well.. it really and truly is an amazing miracle. and i'm being as honest as Winter with these platitudes!

On May 22 2016 05:12 LingBlingBling wrote:
List is incorrect, just because you don't like a certain streamer for political reasons or Blizzard reasons does not mean you get to ignore them. Protech has been streaming with higher numbers and longer hours than majority of those people on your list and he is not included?

Come on now.


the guy made an honest mistake with BaseTradeTV that I noticed and politely informed him of. The guy voluntarily created this list with his own efforts. Just be polite about it like i was and leave it at that man. Unless you think he has some hidden agenda against BaseTradeTV that is.

Lighten up dawg and give the man time to correct any mistake he may have made before lobbing grenades at him.
Ray Kassar To David Crane : "you're no more important to Atari than the factory workers assembling the cartridges"
Psychobabas
Profile Blog Joined March 2006
2531 Posts
May 21 2016 22:17 GMT
#51
Winter #1 lol
Beliskner
Profile Joined August 2015
111 Posts
May 22 2016 04:54 GMT
#52
On May 22 2016 06:23 JimmyJRaynor wrote:
Winter is just better at creating a community base of viewers and we all need to recognize his unique form of genius; no one else can contribute so little while having so many viewers! I was thinking Winter should offer a seminar series about how to build a community/viewer base. His "viewers" are all so well behaved, quiet, and totally silent in chat as well.. it really and truly is an amazing miracle. and i'm being as honest as Winter with these platitudes!


Yeh he puts in 'so little'. All these other streamers who put in 10% of the stream time deserve more regular viewers than him!
Fliparoni
Profile Joined February 2012
205 Posts
May 22 2016 16:01 GMT
#53
I watched winter stream for the longest time without ever coming to the online forums so I remained oblivious about all the drama surrounding him for the longest time. Still don't care much about it either way. I enjoy watching his stream and in the end that's all that matters to me
JimmyJRaynor
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada17931 Posts
May 23 2016 17:09 GMT
#54
i just want to bump this thread up to thank Stijn for his hard work and apologize for my trolly comments about that guy whose name is one of the 4 seasons.
Ray Kassar To David Crane : "you're no more important to Atari than the factory workers assembling the cartridges"
Stijn
Profile Joined October 2010
Netherlands363 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-05-23 19:38:10
May 23 2016 19:35 GMT
#55
Hey all, thanks for the feedback and sorry for the lack of replies.

On May 21 2016 14:39 desRow wrote:Also could you post the stats with the numbers of hours instead of days? number of hours are much easier to read than days in my opinion, Twitch stats and conti used this metric and it was great! thanks

Good idea, will do next time!

On May 21 2016 21:23 EvilSusan wrote:
Weird, MaNa shows up at number 21 on your site, but isn't in your post?
http://www.fuzic.nl/rankings/streams/2016/month/4/players/
Or am I seeing things again? Many thanks for the post btw, always interesting to see

What probably happened is that MaNa also streamed one or more events during April (see his profile; he streamed quite a few), and event streams aren't included in the stats on this list (as Conti never included them either) but they are on the site. So there might be some differences due to that. I'll add an extra note next time to explain the difference, or maybe add a switch on the site so you can view event-less rankings as well (though that'd be a bit more work).

On May 22 2016 05:12 LingBlingBling wrote:
List is incorrect, just because you don't like a certain streamer for political reasons or Blizzard reasons does not mean you get to ignore them. Protech has been streaming with higher numbers and longer hours than majority of those people on your list and he is not included?

Come on now.

Not sure what you're getting at here - my goal is precisely *not* to exclude anyone, as I mentioned in the OP. There was a mistake in the script that generated the list before that bumped some people a few places lower than they should've been, but that has mostly been corrected in the meantime. (Protech is in the list - at #8).

Again, thanks everyone for the feedback (and the TL gold!) - as I mentioned in the OP this thread was something of a "beta test" and has helped me identify some flaws and opportunities for improvement that I'll make sure to address for May's list. Stay tuned for that
http://www.fuzic.nl - Up-to-date viewer numbers for Starcraft 2 live streams
oOOoOphidian
Profile Joined January 2011
United States1402 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-05-23 21:07:53
May 23 2016 20:55 GMT
#56
I would suggest removing "stickyrice1" as he was banned from twitch for viewbotting/fraud.
Creator of sc2unmasked.com
imre
Profile Blog Joined November 2011
France9263 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-05-23 21:31:41
May 23 2016 21:27 GMT
#57
On May 20 2016 19:55 Stijn wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 20 2016 18:26 LDaVinci wrote:
I'm actually surprised that Ogaming has only 1 week of stream as they are running live continuously during the month. Sometimes it's a player stream but most of the time it's events or rebroadcast of events, with still around 200 viewers for the latter.

I looked into this, and it seems that for *very* long streaming sessions (such as OGaming's) the database couldn't actually hold all the information, and thus uptime was underreported. I've updated everything so at least the streaming times will be correct, but in some rare cases (0,05% of all sessions) the V*H/average/peak metrics might be off (they won't be in the future, now I've corrected the problem).

Show nested quote +
On May 20 2016 19:06 sAsImre wrote:
I'm 100% sure that the website you're using has wrong figures.

Can you elaborate?


Every figure differs a lot from twitch figures for Ogaming.
Zest fanboy.
Stijn
Profile Joined October 2010
Netherlands363 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-05-23 21:46:56
May 23 2016 21:46 GMT
#58
On May 24 2016 06:27 sAsImre wrote:
Every figure differs a lot from twitch figures for Ogaming.

As I said, there were some problems with OGaming's extremely long streaming sessions that figured into the stats. I've identified the problem and it won't occur again, and I hope to be able to fix the stats in this thread as well (I need to recalculate a lot of stuff for that though, which is why I haven't done so yet).
http://www.fuzic.nl - Up-to-date viewer numbers for Starcraft 2 live streams
imre
Profile Blog Joined November 2011
France9263 Posts
May 24 2016 00:49 GMT
#59
On May 24 2016 06:46 Stijn wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 24 2016 06:27 sAsImre wrote:
Every figure differs a lot from twitch figures for Ogaming.

As I said, there were some problems with OGaming's extremely long streaming sessions that figured into the stats. I've identified the problem and it won't occur again, and I hope to be able to fix the stats in this thread as well (I need to recalculate a lot of stuff for that though, which is why I haven't done so yet).


Ok we'll see next time
Zest fanboy.
Aron Times
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States312 Posts
May 24 2016 01:15 GMT
#60
I'm not surprised, really. Viewers don't get invested in a game they don't themselves play, no matter how many cool Michael Bay explosions David Kim adds to the game, or how much the skill floor is raised so that you can't even play the game at a baseline level until Master league.

Minecraft regularly gets more views than Starcraft 2, despite being a year older than it and having absolutely terrible graphics. The reason for this is that the core gameplay is more accessible to... everyone, while the skill ceiling is actually pretty high. It might not have the competitive skill ceiling of competitive games like Starcraft 2, but the wonders that Minecrafters create require a different but no less high level of skill.

Let me repeat that: A game that is older than Starcraft 2 and has shitter graphics than Starcraft 1 gets more regular viewers than Starcraft 2.
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