EPTBut let's see, maybe some pros will start using them.
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Ramiz1989
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But let's see, maybe some pros will start using them. | ||
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Lexender
Mexico2656 Posts
I agree with Charoisaur. Fuck mass air comps just nerf libs, tempest and vipers, do what that post on reddit said, make the midgame stronger. | ||
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adnap2
France26 Posts
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Mojzii1
30 Posts
meanwhile buff protoss and nerf terrans  sadly we can't get refunds for game | ||
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imre
France9263 Posts
On April 30 2016 09:55 Lexender wrote: Also the thor change is, ok I guess(?) I mean is good for certain cases, but its more of a loss because altough sky terran is weaker (and thank god for that because fuck mass air) sky toss and sky zerg (BL/viper) is still strong (and that sucks because fuck mass air). I agree with Charoisaur. Fuck mass air comps just nerf libs, tempest and vipers, do what that post on reddit said, make the midgame stronger. Thor change might help vs libe and make mecha niche instead of unviable. 100% useless vZ/P tho. | ||
Jer99
Canada8159 Posts
On April 30 2016 09:56 adnap2 wrote: Maybe its time to uninstall. This Balance Update is a nonsense. What's nonsense about it? | ||
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[PkF] Wire
France24238 Posts
The other changes are OK (I guess) but I totally understand someone who would think the photon cannon change is nonsensical. Korean PvZ is heavily P favored and you restrict Z a bit more ? Come on. | ||
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Corwinus
Croatia96 Posts
On April 30 2016 09:47 Charoisaur wrote: in the OP there is a change mentioned that adresses skyterran. No it doesn't. Even if liberators are nerfed, thus making corruptors more viable, without PB terran can go banshee liberator viking(which would be the counter to corruptors) without a good way for zerg to respond to it. Just make a few less liberators and a few more vikings and you'd be set to go. | ||
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Charoisaur
Germany16063 Posts
On April 30 2016 10:03 Corwinus wrote: No it doesn't. Even if liberators are nerfed, thus making corruptors more viable, without PB terran can go banshee liberator viking(which would be the counter to corruptors) without a good way for zerg to respond to it. Just make a few less liberators and a few more vikings and you'd be set to go. vikings aren't the counter to corruptors. vikings and corruptors trade even and zerg still has fungal to work with. | ||
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Hurricaned
France126 Posts
They're completely missing the point : -Liberators are too strong : okay, but they are the only response to ultras : nerf liberator, but nerf ultras appropriately so bio isn't completely useless in late game. -Protoss is too greedy early vs Terran and struggles to hold vs Zerg... Nerf the MSC so terran can harass early but also nerf ravager so zerg can't all-in every game (and also removing garbage maps like prion or korhal carnage will also help on that matter). It's fine since if you nerf liberators. -Adepts, lurkers, ravager, liberator and possibly disruptor are way too strong and game breaking in a lot of matchups so instead of going around the problem and giving protoss cannon pylon or any other nonsensical feature deal with the problem at the very root. See for example swarm host was nerfed to the ground and is no longer a problem. I don't recommend nerfing every unit as massively since they're not as boring as the SH | ||
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ellenpageplss
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Lil_nooblet
United States459 Posts
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J. Corsair
United States470 Posts
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FoxDog
170 Posts
then they nerfed the cyclone because the unit was too superior to its alternatives and didnt fit a role, instead it just overlapped and did every units role better, instead of balancing this they just blanket nerfed it into oblivion. Now they are nerfing the liberator to the point where you cant make them outside bio, pigeonholing terran into going for the korean bio build, this is the final nail in the coffin of mech players, good job blizzard removing 30% of the sc2 community and its viewership, and those people take with them their friends, their contribution and its not like sc2 can afford that right now. | ||
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TheWinks
United States572 Posts
And this right before two tournaments where for Leipzig they delayed the adept nerf which was a clear and present balance problem. I'm pretty upset. e: In order to trade effectively with corruptors (and infestors and vipers), vikings needed raven support. But that unit was nerfed into the ground too. Zerg just gets air dominance late game now and because liberators are so necessary to deal with ultras on the ground, I don't know how this just doesn't evolve into another broodlord/infestor type meta as zergs learn the balance between greed and survival. | ||
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necrosexy
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MiniFotToss
China2430 Posts
clearly you haven't been around lately, it was discussed since last week | ||
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JackONeill
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AxiomBlurr
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Gwavajuice
France1810 Posts
+ Show Spoiler + As always nothing conclusive will be said before we pro korean play, just wait and see | ||
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