EPT[Blizz] PvZ Mutalisk Suggestion - Page 4
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Hurricaned
France126 Posts
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InfCereal
Canada1759 Posts
On April 19 2016 06:49 Hurricaned wrote: Cool... make cannon rushes against terran even stronger What terran units are both bio and fly, pray tell? | ||
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angrybacon
United States98 Posts
On April 19 2016 06:51 InfCereal wrote: What terran units are both bio and fly, pray tell? Reapers while cliff-jumping. :D | ||
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Dangermousecatdog
United Kingdom7084 Posts
On April 19 2016 06:45 necrosexy wrote: :Dincoming cannon-push-build-plus-phoenix-in-close-positions build added to the toss playbook by sOs | ||
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Tresher
Germany404 Posts
On April 19 2016 03:46 [PkF] Wire wrote: Horrible bandaid suggestion. Do what is long overdue and get rid of muta regen and all the stupidities it forced (spore +bio damage, anion pulse crystals, liberators aoe etc). Have to agree with this one. Mutalisks didn´t need more speed or regeneration and only made this Unit stupid and more annoying as it already is. Running back and forth between point A and B just to catch Units is not fun its frustating. But they did this with a couple of other Units that were actually good as they were which didn´t need it like Oracles and Medivacs (Altough Aenion Crystals was before HotS). Stop this bandaiding. | ||
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tokinho
United States792 Posts
On April 19 2016 03:54 Incognoto wrote: WOAH HEY that nerfs Terran drops as well. what? what unit is terran bio air? | ||
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ArgusDreamer
Canada63 Posts
On April 19 2016 05:15 [PkF] Wire wrote: What I fail to understand is that even if mutas were nerfed to the ground, it doesn't change the fact that opening phoenix is very safe, all-around and strong. So I'm unsure this move will really change the situation. As I said before I would still go phoenix every game even if mutas didn't exist. "What I fail to understand is that even if mutas were nerfed to the ground, it doesn't change the fact that opening phoenix is very safe, all-around and strong." Correlation does not imply causation. You fail to understand why mutas being nerfed into the ground will be a good thing.. then why are you blindly advocating it so much. Can you plz go over the details of how it would be better and how it'll affect every matchup for zerg and not just PVZ. Seeing you're only talking PVZ throughout like 10 comments. | ||
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bela.mervado
Hungary417 Posts
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DonDomingo
504 Posts
Rewards good mechanics Allows good scouting lessing randomness What's not to like? | ||
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SetGuitarsToKill
Canada28396 Posts
On April 19 2016 08:06 DonDomingo wrote: Are there actually Protoss players who would not want to open Phoenixes? Rewards good mechanics Allows good scouting lessing randomness What's not to like? Apparently there are some | ||
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bela.mervado
Hungary417 Posts
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The_Red_Viper
19533 Posts
On April 19 2016 08:07 SetGuitarsToKill wrote: https://twitter.com/InvasionHarstem/status/722190526838140928 https://twitter.com/LorangerChris/status/722191089931685888 Apparently there are some I would like to hear the reasoning tbh. Do your twitter job and annoy HuK a little more  | ||
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DonDomingo
504 Posts
On April 19 2016 08:07 SetGuitarsToKill wrote: https://twitter.com/InvasionHarstem/status/722190526838140928 https://twitter.com/LorangerChris/status/722191089931685888 Apparently there are some Oh, sorry for not specifying, I meant actual players, not foreigners :D | ||
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SetGuitarsToKill
Canada28396 Posts
On April 19 2016 08:09 The_Red_Viper wrote: I would like to hear the reasoning tbh. Do your twitter job and annoy HuK a little more This is the best reason I could find. | ||
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Gwavajuice
France1810 Posts
On April 19 2016 08:09 DonDomingo wrote: Oh, sorry for not specifying, I meant actual players, not foreigners :D Everybody's word is important, that's why you are allowed to give your opinions  I think it safe to say that most Protoss players complain about this, whatever their country or their level, simply because having only one option, even if it's a strong one, is not good in the long run. To have a healthy meta, we need variety of strats, that's why phoenix into PICA in every PvZ game is bad and tankivacs marine mirror in every TvT is bad too. (To be fair, we had Dear doing disruptor drop openings vs Losira, but he always ended up with PICA in mid/late game) edit : typos | ||
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Gwavajuice
France1810 Posts
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Gwavajuice
France1810 Posts
On April 19 2016 08:08 bela.mervado wrote: (anyways, I don't really think their "smallest possible change" philosophy is that good, because this way they can hill climb into a local maximum instead of a possibly better global maximum, trying to find the best gaming experience there can be, if there's such thing, and if that's what they are after.) I've played online for almost 20 years, and the "smallest possible change" is never bad. When patch teams swing their nerf/buff hammers like blind drunken dwarf berseks, they do more bad than good most of the time. | ||
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[PkF] Wire
France24239 Posts
On April 19 2016 07:51 ArgusDreamer wrote: "What I fail to understand is that even if mutas were nerfed to the ground, it doesn't change the fact that opening phoenix is very safe, all-around and strong." Correlation does not imply causation. You fail to understand why mutas being nerfed into the ground will be a good thing.. then why are you blindly advocating it so much. Can you plz go over the details of how it would be better and how it'll affect every matchup for zerg and not just PVZ. Seeing you're only talking PVZ throughout like 10 comments. Muta regen, oracle speed and mediboost = the unholy trinity that made HotS mostly a disaster. I'll never miss an opportunity to state how harmful those things have been for the game. As for my comment I try to think like David Kim and try to achieve more diversity and I don't think this will do the trick. It's even worse than that if phoenix weren't needed in the current state of the game if I am to believe HuK's tweet : all P want to do is pump out immortals all game long... | ||
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Gwavajuice
France1810 Posts
On April 19 2016 08:28 [PkF] Wire wrote: Muta regen, oracle speed and mediboost = the unholy trinity that made HotS mostly a disaster. I'll never miss an opportunity to state how harmful those things have been for the game. As for my comment I try to think like David Kim and try to achieve more diversity and I don't think this will do the trick. It's even worse than that if phoenix weren't needed in the current state of the game if I am to believe HuK's tweet : all P want to do is pump out immortals all game long... It's not facts, it's your opinion. Personnaly, I think these three things contributed to make HotS much better than WoL. Besides, you probably have realized that HuK was being sarcastic when answering to Bly. | ||
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[PkF] Wire
France24239 Posts
On April 19 2016 08:40 Gwavajuice wrote: It's not facts, it's your opinion. Personnaly, I think these three things contributed to make HotS much better than WoL. Besides, you probably have realized that HuK was being sarcastic when answering to Bly. Never said it was anything else than my personal opinion. By the way are you really sure he's being sarcastic ? | ||
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