95. Does this number shock you? Probably not - it is simply a number that can mean all manner of assorted garbage. But given a context, a number can suddenly be transformed into an illuminating figure from which numerous conclusions can be derived. In this case, 95 is Zest's PvT winrate in percentage, for the whole of 2016 thus far. In other words: Zest has dropped a single map to Terrans in a matter of 4 months and has won every series. That is absurd.
Now, compare this to 53% - TaeJa's TvP winrate. Just the mere difference is already sufficient to make you think that this is a one-sided matchup - but beyond a numerical difference, examine the quality of the opponents Zest has crushed, and that of those whom TaeJa barely overcame; Maru, Cure, Bomber, a strong aLive - against Patience, Trap, Blaze? Zest is perhaps the best player on the planet right now, and gets to play his best matchup in the quarterfinals. Any sane man would think that Zest was a shoo-in for the semis, with TaeJa a mere stepping stone in his path.
But wait - wasn't this the exact same thing that was said of TaeJa so many times in the past? Despite holding the record for most tournaments won in SC2 history, TaeJa was quite often considered an underdog before winning anyways. We've seen it all before. 2013, when INnoVation was at the peak of his powers - TaeJa, defying all expectations, smashed him in a match that shook the world, and went on to obliterate him 3-0 in a Dreamhack Finals later on. When Zest rose to greatness in 2014 and met TaeJa in Shenzhen, he was counted out again, only to put on a 3-0 clinic and beat Zest again at IEM Toronto.
This time is still different however. Never in his entire career has TaeJa been a greater underdog than he is right now. When he returned to Korea in 2015, and subsequently failed to show up for the entire year, people seized the opportunity to mock him for his perpetual weakness - his inability to win a major league. But do not let this diminish his stature - TaeJa is one of the greatest players to ever touch the game. His control, macro, and most importantly, his sublime decision-making, earn him a place in the history books that can never be denied. It is this ability to calculate all variables, to accurately estimate the outcomes of all possible decisions, and lastly, his ability to actualize these choices, that has allowed him to dominate the international circuit and its wild, uncontrolled atmosphere, defeating even the best from Korea, and which has established him as a player who can defeat literally anyone in the world.
Predictions:
This, on paper, is the toughest match of TaeJa's career, and it may well be his last, if you want to believe him. There's no denying his expertise in the matchup over the years, and his ability to perform when it matters. But there can be no doubt about the favorite in this match. Zest may well be the best player in the world, and he has looked nothing short of invincible against Terran. TaeJa needs a miracle, nothing less will do. This is a match you don't want to miss. No matter the outcome, this is a historic clash - it will either go down as one of the greatest stories in history, or the last showing of one of the greatest players to ever touch StarCraft II.
Zest 3 - 1 TaeJa
The Last Zerg Standing
Of all the Zergs whom you could expect to see in the Round of 8, Losira is probably quite low on the list. Dark, Solar, soO, Rogue, even Soulkey - these were the big names that are usually bet on to make it to the Round of 8. But Losira? Losira, the last Zerg in the Round of 8 in what the foreign community believes is a Zerg-favoured metagame, and a Zerg with a 2016 winrate lower than 50%? There could scarcely be said to be a more shocking, or, for Zergs, a more disappointing outcome. And his opponent is Dear, who has already exhibited a frightening, highly-aggressive style, and who has not dropped a single map to Zergs in 2016. The Zerg hope is bleak, indeed.
Losira seems to have stumbled into the Ro8 through either luck or a matchup notorious for volatility, ZvZ. Advancing into the Ro16 out of a Ro32 group which contained a slumping aLive and an absent Bbyong, and relying heavily on his ZvZ to beat Dark and advance to this point, Losira's road to the Ro8 may well be taken with a grain of salt. But he is a crafty player with years of experience, and it will be interesting to see what he brings to the table to combat an opponent who is favored on every front.
Dear has already proven that he is a player to be watched, and is one of the favorites to win the entire league. Exhibiting masterful PvT in his Ro16 group, defeating another hot-shot in TY, and crushing through soO and DongRaeGu in the Ro32, Dear has shown that he is a player worth his salt, and definitely deserves his Ro8 spot. He plays a different, more aggressive style than many of his Protoss companions, one that will likely come into play here. Expect Dear to show up with a wide array of strong timings and crisp strategies to cut through his Zerg opponent quickly.
Predictions:
Losira made his way into the Ro8 through a very lucky bracket, and it is unknown whether his skill level is genuinely reflected by his position. All things being equal, Dear should crush Losira, lest Losira pull out some weird gimmick that shakes up the ZvP metagame, which is not something I'd bet money on.
I think this is the most excited I've been for a night of RO8 in GSL for a couple of years. REALLY hoping for a couple of upsets here. But my god will it be an uphill battle.
If Zest actually loses this i don't know what to say anymore haha. But it's impossible that Taeja wins this, so far he got a bit lucky with his opponents, this time he has to play vs the best player in the world. Zest 3:0
i'm excited for Taeja's vs Zest but it's a real shame if this will be Taeja's last game! everyone were so surprised when he made it to the ro16, and again when he qualified to the quarter finalls, but i really believed in him, up untill now. of all the possible opponents Zest is the worst one for him, but i will cling to hope, slim as it may be...
On April 15 2016 09:09 Shellshock wrote: I hope Zest 5-0
I hope Taeja 3-2, but it seems really unrealistic unfortunately lol
I mean, you can never, ever count Taeja out, but I think the meta is different than when they last met, and Zest seems to have a certain grasp on PvT that he never really had in HotS.
On April 15 2016 09:09 Shellshock wrote: I hope Zest 5-0
I hope Taeja 3-2, but it seems really unrealistic unfortunately lol
I mean, you can never, ever count Taeja out, but I think the meta is different than when they last met, and Zest seems to have a certain grasp on PvT that he never really had in HotS.
Agreee. Zests PvT was pretty average when he was peaking in 2014. He was kinda lucky that there was next no Terrans to speak of in leagues back then. But now his PvT is godlike
I don't think Taeja stands a chance, but you never know.
I must admit I'm happy that Taeja is doing well in the GSL, I don't know when and how but despite being a whiner the guy grew on me (Liquid bias working maybe?). Too bad he is against Zest, they have a nice storyline but I rather have him on the other side of the bracket, in Dream's or Cure's place.
Well... anyways that's it for you Taeja, end of the road :D
On April 15 2016 11:42 BisuDagger wrote: I have a fun number, 90. Bisu has won 90% of his PvPs since 2013. But I guess Zests record isn't too shabby either.
At least Zest's record is vs progamers Not gonna argue about their looks, anybody knows Zest beats Bisu there too KT best KT
PS: Yes i rather discuss Bisu in this thread then Taeja, Taeja won't be relevant anymore after Zest is done with him
On April 15 2016 12:26 ZerOCoolSC2 wrote: My first sigbet!!!! Terms?
The winner has full control over the loser's sig until either Zest/Taeja (whoever wins) loses in code s. If either of them wins the whole thing (finals is May 1) the sigbet will stop at June 1. That's ok with you?
Everyone remember when MMA got to the Ro4 in 2015 GSL Season 1? Most of the public and pros and commentators counted him out from the beginning, saying that his time in WCS system had made him unable to stand up to the rigorous test of Korean leagues. I admit, he lost form and never recovered but that's not the point.
Don't count Taeja out, even though Zest is literally looking god-like right now. One last run for Taeja. Pray for a TvT finals.
I dont think its fair to say that Losira had a lucky bracket. He had to beat the consensus best zerg in the world to get here. Also as a GSL finalist, i think he should be given the benefit of the doubt that hes got the skill to be here. I mean this was a zerg that was good before the queen patch, surely that has to count for something.
On April 15 2016 13:25 Woosixion wrote: I dont think its fair to say that Losira had a lucky bracket. He had to beat the consensus best zerg in the world to get here. Also as a GSL finalist, i think he should be given the benefit of the doubt that hes got the skill to be here. I mean this was a zerg that was good before the queen patch, surely that has to count for something.
Going 2-3 in RO 32 and advancing is bracket luck. No doubt about it.
On April 15 2016 13:25 Woosixion wrote: I dont think its fair to say that Losira had a lucky bracket. He had to beat the consensus best zerg in the world to get here. Also as a GSL finalist, i think he should be given the benefit of the doubt that hes got the skill to be here. I mean this was a zerg that was good before the queen patch, surely that has to count for something.
I mean, he definitely has skill, I don't think anybody's really doubting that, but let's take a look at his bracket.
In the Qualifiers he faced - SGW - Hush So, not a really tough matchup (though to be fair a lot of players' brackets were easy)
Code A - Choya One of the easiest matchups possible (I mean, no disrespect to Choya, but....he wouldn't win GSL)
Code S - Wins 2-1 over aLive, and aLive had been doing well, and this definitely was a bit of a surprise, but I still wouldn't put him at like top tier. Then in Code S Ro16 - Wins over Curious - Wins over Dark Definitely good job for beating curious and dark, but beating dark was really the big surprise, as curious had not been doing that well up to that point in time.
So, I think to say that he got the easiest bracket is definitely true in that he had to face one less match than everyone else, and he also had to face choya in Code A. Maybe saying he got a lucky bracket may be a bit unfair, but it was by far the easiest.
Honestly Zest seems like he is even more invincible then he was in 2014. His play has been disgustingly good. No doubt the best player in the world right now.
On April 15 2016 13:11 Ja.Y. wrote: Everyone remember when MMA got to the Ro4 in 2015 GSL Season 1? Most of the public and pros and commentators counted him out from the beginning, saying that his time in WCS system had made him unable to stand up to the rigorous test of Korean leagues. I admit, he lost form and never recovered but that's not the point.
Don't count Taeja out, even though Zest is literally looking god-like right now. One last run for Taeja. Pray for a TvT finals.
Incidentally, MMA got eliminated by someone with a 90+% PvT winrate back then.
On April 15 2016 11:42 BisuDagger wrote: I have a fun number, 90. Bisu has won 90% of his PvPs since 2013. But I guess Zests record isn't too shabby either.
At least Zest's record is vs progamers Not gonna argue about their looks, anybody knows Zest beats Bisu there too KT best KT
PS: Yes i rather discuss Bisu in this thread then Taeja, Taeja won't be relevant anymore after Zest is done with him
I'm confused, how was Bisu not playing progamers? The stats I refer to are from the top tournaments of Brood War. Unless you think because kespa isn't involved in SC1, then players can't be considered pro. If that's the case, then most of WoL doesn't count and MVP is now only the best amateur gamer.
On April 16 2016 09:19 Shinespark wrote: Is GOM not uploading their vods to youtube anymore?
GSL is under afreecatv now so GOM has no reason to upload VODs into their channel anymore.
Afreeca vods are all here. Unfortunately, they don't bother to separate vods into separate set by set videos like GOM used to, so you'll have to figure out which Day / Group you're interested and scroll through yourself