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On February 14 2016 08:59 Seeker wrote:
Starting from this page on, I will be moderating more harshly toward any mention of MarineKing's name. This thread has NOTHING to do with MarineKing. Do not talk about MarineKing even if you are defending him. Just don't do it. Please no match-fixing accusations on MarineKing or any other player if it has not officially been confirmed.


This goes for other players too. -The_Templar
Penev
Profile Joined October 2012
28524 Posts
February 01 2016 12:47 GMT
#761
On February 01 2016 21:44 sc2chronic wrote:
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On February 01 2016 21:35 neutralrobot wrote:
On February 01 2016 19:18 Penev wrote:
On February 01 2016 19:16 Makro wrote:
On February 01 2016 18:45 Penev wrote:
On February 01 2016 17:27 Makro wrote:
On February 01 2016 11:48 Phredxor wrote:
On February 01 2016 11:35 showstealer1829 wrote:
On February 01 2016 11:31 NyxNax wrote:
On February 01 2016 11:26 stuchiu wrote:
This was probably what Wolf meant.


I mustve missed it, did Wolf warn of some impending doom?

When the Prime thing broke he did a Twitch session where he said that he'd heard names that would shock people


Yeah he said he saw a list or something of names that would be a really big deal.

can we bet on who is next ?

I already saw a name being dropped. :/

innovation?

That's the name I saw being dropped indeed.


God, just imagine that. Life + INnoVation both nabbed for matchfixing. The scene's probably going to struggle pretty hard this year no matter what at this stage, but that would really smash it to pieces for a while, I'd think.


Life was shocking enough. but + INNOVATION ???? if true i am just going to quit starcraft...

As for now there's no legit reason to suspect Innovation, pls calm down people!
I Protoss winner, could it be?
Makro
Profile Joined March 2011
France16890 Posts
February 01 2016 12:48 GMT
#762
On February 01 2016 21:10 OtherWorld wrote:
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On February 01 2016 20:56 The_Red_Viper wrote:
On February 01 2016 20:44 OtherWorld wrote:
On February 01 2016 16:20 Rekrul wrote:
why scapegoat the famous one and let all the other ones slide

because then the scene dies?

Do we want a scene which is full of matchfixing?
I mean competition is interesting because we think it is about skill.
Personally i don't want sc2 to be wrestling

ah yeah I agree with you on that one
I was talking from the POV of the guys who live from the scene, they have more interest in a scene with rampant treachery BUT with still some money flowing than in a scene completely clean but with foreign-level of sponsoring and development. That's basically why pro cycling became what it became ; because people in the scene have more short-term interest in trying to cover up the dirty shit, and humans reason with short-term vision.

i was going to use cyclism as a reference then i saw your post

something happened recently where the UCI didn't want to investigate on the modified bicycle because it would have hurted agai nthe scene
Matthew 5:10 "Blessed are those who are persecuted because of shitposting, for theirs is the kingdom of heaven".
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kajtarp
Profile Joined April 2011
Hungary487 Posts
February 01 2016 12:49 GMT
#763
I couldn't watch proleague today. Did Tasteless tell anything about Life?
Why so serious?
aQuaSC
Profile Joined August 2011
717 Posts
February 01 2016 12:53 GMT
#764
On February 01 2016 21:49 kajtarp wrote:
I couldn't watch proleague today. Did Tasteless tell anything about Life?

No and it's better for everyone if all the gossip stays contained to community sites. I'd be baffled if anything would be even mentioned about the topic on an official broadcast
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Ziggy
Profile Blog Joined June 2013
South Korea2106 Posts
February 01 2016 12:56 GMT
#765
On February 01 2016 21:49 kajtarp wrote:
I couldn't watch proleague today. Did Tasteless tell anything about Life?


Nobody's really going to address that on television, but you could clearly see him bogged down over something, I think the Life situation was clearly the reason.
WriterDefeating a sandwich only makes it tastier. @imjustziggy
wawwa
Profile Joined December 2015
5 Posts
February 01 2016 13:14 GMT
#766
RIP SC2

User was warned for this post
boxerfred
Profile Blog Joined December 2012
Germany8360 Posts
February 01 2016 13:58 GMT
#767
Zealously.
Penev
Profile Joined October 2012
28524 Posts
February 01 2016 14:16 GMT
#768
On February 01 2016 22:58 boxerfred wrote:
Zealously.

He didn't really quit did he!?
I Protoss winner, could it be?
Dodgin
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Canada39254 Posts
February 01 2016 15:22 GMT
#769
On February 01 2016 23:16 Penev wrote:
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On February 01 2016 22:58 boxerfred wrote:
Zealously.

He didn't really quit did he!?


I'm pretty sure he's been inactive for a while, or at least not as involved as he was before.
CyberVoid
Profile Joined June 2013
Brazil165 Posts
February 01 2016 15:52 GMT
#770
Fuck, man... I can't believe this shit
"My mission is to kill time, and time's to kill me in its turn. How comfortable one is among murderers."
Daigoro
Profile Joined October 2010
Germany251 Posts
February 01 2016 16:07 GMT
#771
I will try to keep it short - I understand that IF Life did anything he is to be held accountible for his doings.
Still what most disturbes me is the situation of the progamers and the apparent lack of climate where progamers feel they can do something about the brokers that approach them. Those progamers are no boxers who grew up in rough circumstances, they are pretty much hardcore nerds who play, well one computer game for insane hours, starting very early. Most of them strike me as very capable mentally and i am sure they mature somewhat with their public lifestyle, but when confronted with a completely unscrupulous broker - i mean what kind of a guy pushes gifted and naive Kids into their ruin for profit! I would be no doubt scared shitless in front of such a soulless person.
There was a compilation of reactions to the Yoda etc incident and Top wrote:

TOP:
"Ever since about 5 months ago I started getting requests to throw games from a broker, the broker informed me that he's already been hired by a team in proleague. He tempted me with lines like "just fix this one game and you'll be playing more regularly in proleague, earn a ton of money", etc. [..]
I've spoken to multiple Korean pros and they've also told me that there was a broker on their ass -- harassing them non stop."

http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/starcraft-2/496949-progamer-industry-reactions-to-match-fixing

How is this possible? Kespa should have been scared shitless from this point on, that guy approached multiple players and either a) none of them reported it to their coach or kespa or b) they reported and nothing happened...
just reading this you have to believe rather sooner than later a broker will get through to one of the players. We are talking about really talented kids who dont have the guidance of their parents when they move into a progaming house at very early ages... some of that guidance has to be done by coach and support staff. Or at least an atmosphere of trust where player can get protection from organized criminals.
FFW_Rude
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
France10201 Posts
February 01 2016 16:11 GMT
#772
On February 02 2016 01:07 Daigoro wrote:
I will try to keep it short - I understand that IF Life did anything he is to be held accountible for his doings.
Still what most disturbes me is the situation of the progamers and the apparent lack of climate where progamers feel they can do something about the brokers that approach them. Those progamers are no boxers who grew up in rough circumstances, they are pretty much hardcore nerds who play, well one computer game for insane hours, starting very early. Most of them strike me as very capable mentally and i am sure they mature somewhat with their public lifestyle, but when confronted with a completely unscrupulous broker - i mean what kind of a guy pushes gifted and naive Kids into their ruin for profit! I would be no doubt scared shitless in front of such a soulless person.
There was a compilation of reactions to the Yoda etc incident and Top wrote:

TOP:
"Ever since about 5 months ago I started getting requests to throw games from a broker, the broker informed me that he's already been hired by a team in proleague. He tempted me with lines like "just fix this one game and you'll be playing more regularly in proleague, earn a ton of money", etc. [..]
I've spoken to multiple Korean pros and they've also told me that there was a broker on their ass -- harassing them non stop."

http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/starcraft-2/496949-progamer-industry-reactions-to-match-fixing

How is this possible? Kespa should have been scared shitless from this point on, that guy approached multiple players and either a) none of them reported it to their coach or kespa or b) they reported and nothing happened...
just reading this you have to believe rather sooner than later a broker will get through to one of the players. We are talking about really talented kids who dont have the guidance of their parents when they move into a progaming house at very early ages... some of that guidance has to be done by coach and support staff. Or at least an atmosphere of trust where player can get protection from organized criminals.


Kespa and coaches can't do shit. They are not the police. Players needs to contact the police in those cases not Kespa or their team management..
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Gescom
Profile Joined February 2010
Canada3509 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-02-01 16:15:33
February 01 2016 16:14 GMT
#773
No, the players should contact their team management and kespa, and those people should be speaking to the police. Team mgmt and Kespa should be trained and have a procedure in place. These players are young, man.
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r_gg
Profile Joined August 2015
141 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-02-01 16:29:24
February 01 2016 16:27 GMT
#774
On February 02 2016 01:14 Gescom wrote:
No, the players should contact their team management and kespa, and those people should be speaking to the police. Team mgmt and Kespa should be trained and have a procedure in place. These players are young, man.


They do. But all KESPA can do is direct the requests to the authorities and hope the authorities will sort things out. These brokers are reaching out to players through social media, Facebook, nearby friends, etc. KESPA wants to get rid of these things more than anyone else.
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jume
Profile Joined February 2014
Germany25 Posts
February 01 2016 16:30 GMT
#775
Has anyone thought about wether "Life" has had the chance to say "no" to match fixing?
We might think, that we always can say no, but can we really?
You never know wether he got blackmailed or something.

I don't punish anyone before I know the full story.

From my point of view Life didn't really have a reason for match fixing. I am sad for this guy.
the.Zane
Profile Joined August 2013
10 Posts
February 01 2016 16:50 GMT
#776
On February 02 2016 01:07 Daigoro wrote:
I will try to keep it short - I understand that IF Life did anything he is to be held accountible for his doings.
Still what most disturbes me is the situation of the progamers and the apparent lack of climate where progamers feel they can do something about the brokers that approach them. Those progamers are no boxers who grew up in rough circumstances, they are pretty much hardcore nerds who play, well one computer game for insane hours, starting very early. Most of them strike me as very capable mentally and i am sure they mature somewhat with their public lifestyle, but when confronted with a completely unscrupulous broker - i mean what kind of a guy pushes gifted and naive Kids into their ruin for profit! I would be no doubt scared shitless in front of such a soulless person.
There was a compilation of reactions to the Yoda etc incident and Top wrote:

TOP:
"Ever since about 5 months ago I started getting requests to throw games from a broker, the broker informed me that he's already been hired by a team in proleague. He tempted me with lines like "just fix this one game and you'll be playing more regularly in proleague, earn a ton of money", etc. [..]
I've spoken to multiple Korean pros and they've also told me that there was a broker on their ass -- harassing them non stop."

http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/starcraft-2/496949-progamer-industry-reactions-to-match-fixing

How is this possible? Kespa should have been scared shitless from this point on, that guy approached multiple players and either a) none of them reported it to their coach or kespa or b) they reported and nothing happened...
just reading this you have to believe rather sooner than later a broker will get through to one of the players. We are talking about really talented kids who dont have the guidance of their parents when they move into a progaming house at very early ages... some of that guidance has to be done by coach and support staff. Or at least an atmosphere of trust where player can get protection from organized criminals.


Even more than the temptation involved when offered a lot of money I assume that these brokers also make use of threats, which - especially with the young people progamers usually are - can get to you pretty fast. If you have been living in Korea and know the pressure the kids over there feel from the day they enter elementary school onwards, you might understand why even someone as successfull as life would feel forced to colaborate with such scum that are these brokers.
Because like most of you guys, I cannot imagine him doing it for a few thousand dollars only. Whether or not he is innocent from a lawyer's perspective, the real problem are these brokers. Life might have still been underage when he was first approached for all we know...
sad story.
Antisocialmunky
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States5912 Posts
February 01 2016 17:46 GMT
#777
Man, I really hope MC's "Effort Hard" tweet becomes a meme.
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claybones
Profile Blog Joined September 2011
United States244 Posts
February 01 2016 18:29 GMT
#778
On February 02 2016 01:27 r_gg wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 02 2016 01:14 Gescom wrote:
No, the players should contact their team management and kespa, and those people should be speaking to the police. Team mgmt and Kespa should be trained and have a procedure in place. These players are young, man.


They do. But all KESPA can do is direct the requests to the authorities and hope the authorities will sort things out. These brokers are reaching out to players through social media, Facebook, nearby friends, etc. KESPA wants to get rid of these things more than anyone else.

Just like you should always have a lawyer present when speaking to the police it seems like a good idea for a young progamer to have a KESPA representative to advise them when speaking to investigators. They're young and in a situation where they could severely screw themselves, an additional experienced perspective is a must if you ask me.
sc2chronic
Profile Joined May 2012
United States777 Posts
February 01 2016 18:44 GMT
#779
while not the saddest, this is definitely the most shocking news ive ever read regarding professional sc2.

i dont know how to feel. plz tasteless, TELL ME HOW I SHOULD FEEL. HOW DO I FEEL??????!??
terrible, terrible, damage
Shield
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
Bulgaria4824 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-02-01 18:46:11
February 01 2016 18:45 GMT
#780
Are you guys stupid? Since when does SC2 rely on one person? Fine, Life committed a crime and is probably going to jail. How does that stop you from playing the game? Stop being babies and enjoy the game.

Edit: Let me tell you that crimes happen every day. That's not a reason we should quit A, B or C.
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