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SBENU Ceases Sponsoring SC2 Team - Page 6

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TelecoM
Profile Blog Joined January 2010
United States10666 Posts
January 20 2016 15:40 GMT
#101
No surprise here.
AKA: TelecoM[WHITE] Protoss fighting
Dumbledore
Profile Joined April 2011
Sweden725 Posts
January 20 2016 15:43 GMT
#102
SBenu giving money to players under the table?
Have a nice day ;)
imCHIEN
Profile Joined January 2016
14 Posts
January 20 2016 15:45 GMT
#103
I really hope Blizzard marketing team will do something. Even Hearthstone has more viewer than Sc2 and Sponsors they doesn't care about the game. 😐
royalroadweed
Profile Joined April 2013
United States8301 Posts
January 20 2016 15:49 GMT
#104
They should change back to Startale. They aren't getting sponsored by them currently plus it isn't the best time to be associated with sbenu.
"Nerfing Toss can just make them stronger"
ShambhalaWar
Profile Joined August 2013
United States930 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-01-20 15:54:24
January 20 2016 15:53 GMT
#105
I love how they hold onto the LOL team, assholes.

The drama though, jesus... this is really as bad or worse than a daytime soap opera.
Wrath
Profile Blog Joined July 2014
3174 Posts
January 20 2016 15:56 GMT
#106
On January 21 2016 00:45 imCHIEN wrote:
I really hope Blizzard marketing team will do something. Even Hearthstone has more viewer than Sc2 and Sponsors they doesn't care about the game. 😐


Unfortunately, Blizzard does not support teams for StarCraft...
SeriousLus
Profile Joined July 2012
169 Posts
January 20 2016 16:07 GMT
#107
1 sentence from kespa and my blood pressure is through the fucking roof.. N**I Aholes
Clonester
Profile Joined August 2014
Germany2808 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-01-20 16:58:03
January 20 2016 16:57 GMT
#108
On January 21 2016 00:56 WrathSCII wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 21 2016 00:45 imCHIEN wrote:
I really hope Blizzard marketing team will do something. Even Hearthstone has more viewer than Sc2 and Sponsors they doesn't care about the game. 😐


Unfortunately, Blizzard does not support teams for StarCraft...


They announced that they spend over 4M to Heroes, which is at the moment performing worse then starcraft, so money is there.
Bomber, Attacker, DD, SOMEBODY, NiKo, Nex, Spidii
IceBerrY
Profile Joined February 2012
Germany220 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-01-20 17:02:07
January 20 2016 17:00 GMT
#109
The general news about sc2 are kind of depressing as a sc2 fan. It doesn´t really get better. Apart of the new team apocalypse gaming (we will see how this turns out) it seems like no investment what so ever is beeing made into sc2.
I expected a big viewer influx for LotV, like a new reboot, trying to get sc2 big again, not like LoL or DotA, but you know
what i mean. I felt LotV was a good game with potential to be more attractive for casual enjoyment, but apart the lackluster Dreamhack and an okay HSC last year, tournaments are taking a terrible long time to start the new year.
The biggest mistake was the late (as fcking) always WCS 2016 announcement, making it for organizer really hard.
The WCS system is weird and even progamers are confused about where to play, how to qualify etc.
I am just really disappointed about pretty much everything right now and how this game is handled.

Wrath
Profile Blog Joined July 2014
3174 Posts
January 20 2016 17:02 GMT
#110
On January 21 2016 01:57 Clonester wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 21 2016 00:56 WrathSCII wrote:
On January 21 2016 00:45 imCHIEN wrote:
I really hope Blizzard marketing team will do something. Even Hearthstone has more viewer than Sc2 and Sponsors they doesn't care about the game. 😐


Unfortunately, Blizzard does not support teams for StarCraft...


They announced that they spend over 4M to Heroes, which is at the moment performing worse then starcraft, so money is there.


Yes, but the problem is that they consider it a 1v1 not a team game. The whole team concept was developed under KeSPA's system back in BW and was moved on to SC2.
andrewlt
Profile Joined August 2009
United States7702 Posts
January 20 2016 17:04 GMT
#111
On January 21 2016 01:57 Clonester wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 21 2016 00:56 WrathSCII wrote:
On January 21 2016 00:45 imCHIEN wrote:
I really hope Blizzard marketing team will do something. Even Hearthstone has more viewer than Sc2 and Sponsors they doesn't care about the game. 😐


Unfortunately, Blizzard does not support teams for StarCraft...


They announced that they spend over 4M to Heroes, which is at the moment performing worse then starcraft, so money is there.


Heroes is making money off microtransactions, though. Was just reading a Forbes article about it.
Horiken
Profile Joined April 2013
Japan68 Posts
January 20 2016 17:27 GMT
#112
On January 21 2016 01:57 Clonester wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 21 2016 00:56 WrathSCII wrote:
On January 21 2016 00:45 imCHIEN wrote:
I really hope Blizzard marketing team will do something. Even Hearthstone has more viewer than Sc2 and Sponsors they doesn't care about the game. 😐


Unfortunately, Blizzard does not support teams for StarCraft...


They announced that they spend over 4M to Heroes, which is at the moment performing worse then starcraft, so money is there.


I don't think HotS is perfoming worse than SC2... at least they have far more playerbase. In the long run, HotS will earn more money than SC2 thx to microtransaction, that is why Blizz is investing so much money into HotS.
bduddy
Profile Joined May 2012
United States1326 Posts
January 20 2016 17:40 GMT
#113
On January 21 2016 02:02 WrathSCII wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 21 2016 01:57 Clonester wrote:
On January 21 2016 00:56 WrathSCII wrote:
On January 21 2016 00:45 imCHIEN wrote:
I really hope Blizzard marketing team will do something. Even Hearthstone has more viewer than Sc2 and Sponsors they doesn't care about the game. 😐


Unfortunately, Blizzard does not support teams for StarCraft...


They announced that they spend over 4M to Heroes, which is at the moment performing worse then starcraft, so money is there.


Yes, but the problem is that they consider it a 1v1 not a team game. The whole team concept was developed under KeSPA's system back in BW and was moved on to SC2.
Therein lies the entire problem, really. No one outside of Korea - players, teams, tournaments, Blizzard - has ever really realized how important teams are to making a real pro scene.
>Liquid'Nazgul: Of course you are completely right
Wrath
Profile Blog Joined July 2014
3174 Posts
January 20 2016 17:42 GMT
#114
On January 21 2016 02:40 bduddy wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 21 2016 02:02 WrathSCII wrote:
On January 21 2016 01:57 Clonester wrote:
On January 21 2016 00:56 WrathSCII wrote:
On January 21 2016 00:45 imCHIEN wrote:
I really hope Blizzard marketing team will do something. Even Hearthstone has more viewer than Sc2 and Sponsors they doesn't care about the game. 😐


Unfortunately, Blizzard does not support teams for StarCraft...


They announced that they spend over 4M to Heroes, which is at the moment performing worse then starcraft, so money is there.


Yes, but the problem is that they consider it a 1v1 not a team game. The whole team concept was developed under KeSPA's system back in BW and was moved on to SC2.
Therein lies the entire problem, really. No one outside of Korea - players, teams, tournaments, Blizzard - has ever really realized how important teams are to making a real pro scene.


The only team league ever existed and is considered a serious thing was ProLeague managed by KeSPA, Blizzard had to create something similar for foreigner team to participate in for money prizes and create a team atmosphere in general. Players now join team for the sake of having a sponsor not getting practice and coaching. How many coaches do the foreign team have? Literally 0.
Bagration
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
United States18282 Posts
January 20 2016 18:31 GMT
#115
Damn - best of luck to the players
Team Slayers, Axiom-Acer and Vile forever
Swisslink
Profile Joined March 2011
2949 Posts
January 20 2016 19:06 GMT
#116
On January 20 2016 23:28 Lemartes wrote:
No matter what happens, everyone is blaming the new wcs system... If North Korea nukes the South tomorrow it´s also the new WCS that weakend Korea so much that Kim Jong Un saw his chance eh?
I´m just mad at Sonic and if I had to choose between droping my lol team or Sc2 team I would drop my Sc2 team aswell. Where are the Pitchforks guys, can´t we just be sad and torch SBENU for a bit?


Well, the WCS format is not to blame that the team is in trouble, but it is that the players are. Koreans that didn't qualify for SSL or GSL and are not in Proleague are just screwed now. So basically, if StarTale does not get a new sponsor... guess where their players are going.
20-Minute-Jackal
Profile Joined May 2015
United States336 Posts
January 20 2016 19:08 GMT
#117
I still don't get why they're continuing with the Sbenu name, even though their agreement seems to be completely over. Is it because KeSPA is concerned with rebranding costs on their end and that's why they don't want them to become Startale again, threatening to run ProLeague with only 6 teams. It's just all very strange.
Phredxor
Profile Joined May 2013
New Zealand15076 Posts
January 20 2016 19:13 GMT
#118
On January 21 2016 00:29 showstealer1829 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 20 2016 23:28 Lemartes wrote:
No matter what happens, everyone is blaming the new wcs system... If North Korea nukes the South tomorrow it´s also the new WCS that weakend Korea so much that Kim Jong Un saw his chance eh?


Don't be silly. The WCS changes are far, FAR worse

Seriously though. I kind of get where KeSPA is coming from and there's really two people to blame if SBENU are locked out of Proleague. Sonic of course...and Gerard.

I think that's the problem, not the fact that SBENU might fold, I don't think KeSPA would allow that to happen if they let them play , but they're scared of another PRIME scenario. An noncompetitive team, short on money that figures it's going to lose any way and with the changes to the scene there's not much hope anywhere else, why not make some money before I go?


Yeah that's what i figured too. Gerard doing his best to kill of SC2 in Korea.
orllyfools
Profile Joined May 2012
United States153 Posts
January 20 2016 19:49 GMT
#119
I think Korea just needs a Rifkin in their lives, some more shoutcasting content needs to come out from Korea and more foreigners who know Korean.
Squitle-MC-Parting-Major-Polt
gneGne
Profile Joined June 2007
Netherlands697 Posts
January 20 2016 20:51 GMT
#120
On January 21 2016 02:00 IceBerrY wrote:
The general news about sc2 are kind of depressing as a sc2 fan. It doesn´t really get better. Apart of the new team apocalypse gaming (we will see how this turns out) it seems like no investment what so ever is beeing made into sc2.
I expected a big viewer influx for LotV, like a new reboot, trying to get sc2 big again, not like LoL or DotA, but you know
what i mean. I felt LotV was a good game with potential to be more attractive for casual enjoyment, but apart the lackluster Dreamhack and an okay HSC last year, tournaments are taking a terrible long time to start the new year.
The biggest mistake was the late (as fcking) always WCS 2016 announcement, making it for organizer really hard.
The WCS system is weird and even progamers are confused about where to play, how to qualify etc.
I am just really disappointed about pretty much everything right now and how this game is handled.



Quoted for truth.
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