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SBENU Ceases Sponsoring SC2 Team - Page 7

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jinyung2
Profile Joined November 2014
Luxembourg1455 Posts
January 20 2016 20:53 GMT
#121
i guess it was only a matter of time

how are they still funding LoL team? confuses me lol
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OtherWorld
Profile Blog Joined October 2013
France17333 Posts
January 20 2016 20:56 GMT
#122
On January 21 2016 04:13 Phredxor wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 21 2016 00:29 showstealer1829 wrote:
On January 20 2016 23:28 Lemartes wrote:
No matter what happens, everyone is blaming the new wcs system... If North Korea nukes the South tomorrow it´s also the new WCS that weakend Korea so much that Kim Jong Un saw his chance eh?


Don't be silly. The WCS changes are far, FAR worse

Seriously though. I kind of get where KeSPA is coming from and there's really two people to blame if SBENU are locked out of Proleague. Sonic of course...and Gerard.

I think that's the problem, not the fact that SBENU might fold, I don't think KeSPA would allow that to happen if they let them play , but they're scared of another PRIME scenario. An noncompetitive team, short on money that figures it's going to lose any way and with the changes to the scene there's not much hope anywhere else, why not make some money before I go?


Yeah that's what i figured too. Gerard doing his best to kill of SC2 in Korea.

To be fair that's kinda silly to blame Gerrard and Sonic for all of Korean SC2's troubles. Matchfixing scandals didn't kill football in Italy, NASCAR in the US, and it won't kill international Tennis. The real reason we've got a 6-team PL is to be found somewhere else, Gerrard and Sonic only made it happen in 2016 rather than 2017 or 2018.
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showstealer1829
Profile Blog Joined May 2014
Australia3123 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-01-20 21:04:29
January 20 2016 21:04 GMT
#123
On January 21 2016 05:56 OtherWorld wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 21 2016 04:13 Phredxor wrote:
On January 21 2016 00:29 showstealer1829 wrote:
On January 20 2016 23:28 Lemartes wrote:
No matter what happens, everyone is blaming the new wcs system... If North Korea nukes the South tomorrow it´s also the new WCS that weakend Korea so much that Kim Jong Un saw his chance eh?


Don't be silly. The WCS changes are far, FAR worse

Seriously though. I kind of get where KeSPA is coming from and there's really two people to blame if SBENU are locked out of Proleague. Sonic of course...and Gerard.

I think that's the problem, not the fact that SBENU might fold, I don't think KeSPA would allow that to happen if they let them play , but they're scared of another PRIME scenario. An noncompetitive team, short on money that figures it's going to lose any way and with the changes to the scene there's not much hope anywhere else, why not make some money before I go?


Yeah that's what i figured too. Gerard doing his best to kill of SC2 in Korea.

To be fair that's kinda silly to blame Gerrard and Sonic for all of Korean SC2's troubles. Matchfixing scandals didn't kill football in Italy, NASCAR in the US, and it won't kill international Tennis. The real reason we've got a 6-team PL is to be found somewhere else, Gerrard and Sonic only made it happen in 2016 rather than 2017 or 2018.


I wasn't blaming them for all the troubles of Korean SC2. Merely SBENU's troubles and why there might be hesitation in putting them in Proleague without a sponsor. While match fixing scandals haven't killed off SC2 another scandal might put it into BW territory as an esport in Korea.

I don't blame them for the troubles currently in the scene as a whole. The majority of that upheaval lies in the letters W, C and S
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Phredxor
Profile Joined May 2013
New Zealand15076 Posts
January 20 2016 21:24 GMT
#124
Yeah same again.

You can understand why KeSPA is reluctant to let Startale play again. Last time a team wasn't getting paid look what happened. If it was to happen again you could pretty much write off Proleague and thus KR SC2 i reckon. And that's due to Gerard and his being a knob. If Prime had just been losing legit and then disbanded I'm sure KeSPA would be more willing to allow Startale the chance to keep playing, bit as it is they can't afford another scandal.
Orr
Profile Joined February 2014
United States168 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-01-21 04:26:44
January 21 2016 03:52 GMT
#125
Sad but inevitable once news broke about Sonic's sham. Despite my hero DRG leaving (after quietly dominating PL last season), was really excited to see the former Startale team in 2016. They had an exciting mesh of old talent and young potential. Thought Keen and Leenock were overlooked pickups with big potential upside.

Really hope their team is able to still compete even if it requires KESPA to initially support them until a viable sponsor can take over. Sounds like a terrible situation for all their players who probably aren't even going to get paid their past due wages let alone having a now unknown present and future down to the very basics of living situation and operating expenses.

Seemed hard enough to add an 8th team for PL before this happened. Now anything other than six teams to start the season would be shocking. Crummy all around, since PL is a much better place with more competitive teams providing opportunities for all the talented players, especially newcomers which the game so desperately needs to grow. Just don't want to see something like last year where Prime (honorable mention to STY in R2 being sponsorless ) was left out to dry and their players completely forsaken. Which tainted the prestige and most importantly, the legitimacy of PL even before the final betrayals.
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yoshi245
Profile Joined May 2011
United States2974 Posts
January 21 2016 04:37 GMT
#126
Well crap, 6 team proleague is most likely gonna happen due to this

Better bust out those WE NEED A SPONSOR shirts Legend.
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Advantageous
Profile Blog Joined May 2012
China1350 Posts
January 21 2016 07:24 GMT
#127
honestly, blizzards need new way to introduce starcraft 2... it's just a shame to see a game like starcraft go to waste just bcuz majority of people hate using their brains.
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therabit
Profile Joined August 2011
795 Posts
January 21 2016 22:23 GMT
#128
sad news for SC2 fan. I don't play anymore but still follow the pro scene esp. ProLeague, I hope we get at least 2 more years of PL in SC2 before everything go up in flame lol.
RenZ
Profile Joined February 2012
Singapore65 Posts
January 22 2016 08:06 GMT
#129
Blizzard should sponsor proleague!
Heyoka
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
Katowice25012 Posts
January 23 2016 10:38 GMT
#130
Seems Afreeca is taking it over

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cha0
Profile Joined March 2010
Canada514 Posts
January 23 2016 10:39 GMT
#131
Afreeca just announced they will be sponsoring the team.
Dodgin
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Canada39254 Posts
January 23 2016 10:39 GMT
#132
New thread?
20-Minute-Jackal
Profile Joined May 2015
United States336 Posts
January 23 2016 10:40 GMT
#133
SBENU's new name: Afreeca Freecs.
Phredxor
Profile Joined May 2013
New Zealand15076 Posts
January 23 2016 10:40 GMT
#134
On January 23 2016 19:39 Dodgin wrote:
New thread?


Community news people slackingsleeping?
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