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Shield
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
Bulgaria4824 Posts
January 09 2016 21:58 GMT
#1
Hello, I was wondering why people are still playing StarCraft. I don't think there's a single reason for everyone, so I was hoping to read some of your posts.

For example, some people may keep playing StarCraft because of their friends and how fun it is to play the game with them. Others may play the game because they like the challenge it presents, etc.

So what is your reason to keep playing?
[PkF] Wire
Profile Joined March 2013
France24227 Posts
January 09 2016 22:03 GMT
#2
I enjoy 1v1 competition and it's very easy with the ladder system to find opponents that are around your level. I don't play much atm though, waiting for the game to get a bit more figured out.
iMrising
Profile Blog Joined March 2012
United States1099 Posts
January 09 2016 22:05 GMT
#3
In Brood War I played because the mini-games were so incredibly fun. I loved the concept of RTS in being able to micromanage economies and entire armies. I was not even a teen when I tried Brood War.
I play SC2 for the same reasons, but after becoming more desensitized to the game after playing it so long, I think I partly play it because I'm simply good at it relative to other games. The initial luster is gone, but I've been playing for maybe ~8 years. RTS is still fun
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Tenks
Profile Joined April 2010
United States3104 Posts
January 09 2016 22:06 GMT
#4
I stopped playing for HotS. Came back for LotV.

1) It is fun
2) I prefer 1v1 format to team games
3) It is fast paced
4) Everything is within my control. If I lose it is because I myself errored.
5) You can always, ALWAYS get better
Wat
Musicus
Profile Joined August 2011
Germany23576 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-01-09 22:13:09
January 09 2016 22:09 GMT
#5
RTS is my favourite genre and I want to play a 1v1 game. I also enjoy an active pro scene and after playing wc3, sc2 was the natural step. I don't think I will stop playing sc2 until wc4 or sc3 comes around. Day9's RTS peaked my interest, but then I heard it's a 3v3 game so I will stick with sc2 .

I also enjoy the challenge sc2 provides and the fact that you can always improve. I want to start playing some Go now, because I like just love hard 1v1 strategy games with an seemingly endless skill ceiling. It will be nice to play something turn based where speed doesn't matter when I'm too lazy for sc2.
Maru and Serral are probably top 5.
Tenks
Profile Joined April 2010
United States3104 Posts
January 09 2016 22:13 GMT
#6
On January 10 2016 07:09 Musicus wrote:
Day9's RTS peaked my interest, but then I heard it's a 3v3 game so I will stick with sc2 .


Not to hijack the thread but is there much known about his RTS? Or was your interest piqued because of Day9 being tied to it?
Wat
TheBloodyDwarf
Profile Blog Joined March 2012
Finland7524 Posts
January 09 2016 22:14 GMT
#7
I dont
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coolman123123
Profile Joined August 2013
146 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-01-09 22:19:23
January 09 2016 22:18 GMT
#8
cause I find most other games to be snail paced honestly lol. the farming phase is dota/lol just ruins the game for me. plus I love watching the pro scene and playing 1v1 games.
A_needle_jog
Profile Blog Joined December 2015
Korea (South)699 Posts
January 09 2016 22:20 GMT
#9
I play Starcraft because it is one of a kind. I love the universe Zerg Protoss Terran

Starcraft is my main multiplaying game. I love singleplayer games very much with good story, worlds and characters too, but for multiplayer I need Starcraft because it is very skill based and has a lot of support for an RTS game.

I think it is huge tragedy that so many people play other games like LoL which I think in personal opinion is a very bad game. I wish more people would support Starcraft so it becomes more glorious
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Musicus
Profile Joined August 2011
Germany23576 Posts
January 09 2016 22:20 GMT
#10
On January 10 2016 07:13 Tenks wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 10 2016 07:09 Musicus wrote:
Day9's RTS peaked my interest, but then I heard it's a 3v3 game so I will stick with sc2 .


Not to hijack the thread but is there much known about his RTS? Or was your interest piqued because of Day9 being tied to it?


Yeah purely because Day9 was part of it and I know a lot of sc2 players have been play testing it for a while (Lambo once ended his stream and said he has to go playtest Day9's game now). Then I checked out their developer updates, but lost all interest when I saw it's not 1v1.

To keep this thread on topic, here is the thread http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/games/429683-artillerys-project-atlas, there is some info in there and I'm sure people there know more about it if you have questions .
Maru and Serral are probably top 5.
TelecoM
Profile Blog Joined January 2010
United States10682 Posts
January 09 2016 22:21 GMT
#11
The best and most logical answer I can think of is because it is StarCraft.
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Ansibled
Profile Joined November 2014
United Kingdom9872 Posts
January 09 2016 22:26 GMT
#12
The game is fun.
'StarCraft is just a fairy tale told to scare children actually.'
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DinoMight
Profile Blog Joined June 2012
United States3725 Posts
January 09 2016 22:32 GMT
#13
Because I'm stubborn and I love hating myself.
"Wtf I come back and find myself in camp DinoMight all of a sudden, feels weird man." -Wombat_NI
Gullis
Profile Joined April 2012
Sweden740 Posts
January 09 2016 22:33 GMT
#14
I am not that in to team games or singelplayer games and I think starcraft2 is the best 1v1 game out there atm.
And my passion has been revived with lotv
I would rather eat than see my children starve.
Grumbels
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
Netherlands7031 Posts
January 09 2016 22:35 GMT
#15
On January 10 2016 07:20 Musicus wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 10 2016 07:13 Tenks wrote:
On January 10 2016 07:09 Musicus wrote:
Day9's RTS peaked my interest, but then I heard it's a 3v3 game so I will stick with sc2 .


Not to hijack the thread but is there much known about his RTS? Or was your interest piqued because of Day9 being tied to it?


Yeah purely because Day9 was part of it and I know a lot of sc2 players have been play testing it for a while (Lambo once ended his stream and said he has to go playtest Day9's game now). Then I checked out their developer updates, but lost all interest when I saw it's not 1v1.

To keep this thread on topic, here is the thread http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/games/429683-artillerys-project-atlas, there is some info in there and I'm sure people there know more about it if you have questions .

They recently had a public test, as far as I know. I get the email updates, but I can't stand playing team games (I hate people) so I never participate in the tests. There's probably people around (streamers especially) in case anyone is looking for updates.
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Aocowns
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Norway6070 Posts
January 09 2016 22:36 GMT
#16
i like feeling pain and its either playing sc2 or cutting myself
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Qwyn
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States2779 Posts
January 09 2016 22:37 GMT
#17
Because it's the only game I ever bothered to get good at. Why? Because it was the only game that ever seemed worth my time...Because it offers a lot of complexity, depth, and introduced me to the wonderful world of mechanical games!

And just when I thought that I was done playing for good a load of friends started playing competitively, lol. So I feel obligated to hop on every weekend and join them in some team games or obs, and naturally want to play a bit to maintain my mechanics.
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_fool
Profile Joined February 2011
Netherlands678 Posts
January 09 2016 22:44 GMT
#18
I started playing with a group of 8 or so in WoL. I'm the only one still playing. I stay because I like the innovation that Korean players come up with. The "I didnt even know you could do that moments". Then I apply those insights on the gold ladder, where I fail miserably 9 out of 10 tries, but that 10th win puts a big grin on my face. Also, I play 2v2 for fun. Nothing like starting out with a silly build, then end up in a scrappy macro game that could go either way, and win it

And good casters! I watch more twitch then I watch live television. Good casters are my bread and butter entertainment.
"News is to the mind what sugar is to the body"
swissman777
Profile Joined September 2014
1106 Posts
January 09 2016 22:59 GMT
#19
I am kinda tired of casual games and the pro scene is so much fun to watch that I started to play myself.
11cc
Profile Joined May 2008
Finland561 Posts
January 09 2016 23:15 GMT
#20
It's a habit. Sometimes I queue for a game and when it starts I realize I don't want to play.
starslayer
Profile Joined August 2011
United States696 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-01-09 23:35:06
January 09 2016 23:16 GMT
#21
On January 10 2016 07:32 DinoMight wrote:
Because I'm stubborn and I love hating myself.

this

but really I ask myself this every time i log on, honestly I still don't have a good answer but I like that rush you get in game, that drive to get better, that rage when you lose and know you could've won. That nostalgic feeling i get when i watch tastosis at 6am that brings me back to the WOL days when i first got into sc2 trying to learn and getting my ass kick every game. learning something new every game. Also I love that even though there's a "meta" the games aren't the same thing over and over, its something different every time.

that beings said Im playing less and less, why not sure, maybe dont want to invest the time it takes to be as good as I know I can be i guess and hate being bad.
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Luolis
Profile Blog Joined May 2012
Finland7136 Posts
January 09 2016 23:16 GMT
#22
I played alot of competitive sc2 for 4 years. Now with the release of lotv, ive mostly moved on to cs, but sometimes come back to play a few ladder games just for fun.
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beheamoth
Profile Joined December 2015
44 Posts
January 09 2016 23:29 GMT
#23
ive played sc since the very first week it was out and i was at college when it did! recently, ive started to not play this game at all. from week to week! this is the first time in all of that time that ive never played a single game. Maybe there is a time where you just hang up ur hat, i never thought it would happen to me. I dont think its the game at all, its realising the countless hrs spent on a pure pass time and how good i could have been at something which may have helped more for my family and myself financially

xtorn
Profile Blog Joined December 2013
4060 Posts
January 09 2016 23:30 GMT
#24
because its so fucking hard and that makes it worthy of investing the effort
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blade55555
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
United States17423 Posts
January 09 2016 23:35 GMT
#25
On January 10 2016 07:06 Tenks wrote:
I stopped playing for HotS. Came back for LotV.

1) It is fun
2) I prefer 1v1 format to team games
3) It is fast paced
4) Everything is within my control. If I lose it is because I myself errored.
5) You can always, ALWAYS get better


This is why I still play. I also stopped playing hots in 2013 when turtle everything became best way to play.
When I think of something else, something will go here
swissman777
Profile Joined September 2014
1106 Posts
January 09 2016 23:43 GMT
#26
On January 10 2016 08:29 beheamoth wrote:
ive played sc since the very first week it was out and i was at college when it did! recently, ive started to not play this game at all. from week to week! this is the first time in all of that time that ive never played a single game. Maybe there is a time where you just hang up ur hat, i never thought it would happen to me. I dont think its the game at all, its realising the countless hrs spent on a pure pass time and how good i could have been at something which may have helped more for my family and myself financially



You mean not being addicted in games? Yeah that's a big problem in South Korea. But I think people would get better at handling this as we get more experienced as a society
Big J
Profile Joined March 2011
Austria16289 Posts
January 09 2016 23:44 GMT
#27
stopped after the SH patch. Came back for the LotV beta. Don't like the game how it is at the moment, but I still can't leave my hands of it and keep on playing HotS and WoL occasionally. I just love the strategy and the discussions and it's not a teamgame so you can be really creative and strategic about it without having to plan hours in advance when everyone of your friends has time to play.
Polygamy
Profile Joined January 2010
Austria1114 Posts
January 09 2016 23:44 GMT
#28
Long time BW player but hated HoTS, didn't even enjoy watching it. Came back because I want this game to be good, so I will give it a fair chance.
TheDougler
Profile Joined April 2010
Canada8305 Posts
January 09 2016 23:52 GMT
#29
I keep playing because I love Archon mode right now, it's reignited my passion for starcraft. Also the auto tourneys are fun.
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KtJ
Profile Joined October 2014
United States3514 Posts
January 09 2016 23:52 GMT
#30
Because its the best and most challenging game i've ever played and i can't get enough of it.
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Fliparoni
Profile Joined February 2012
205 Posts
January 09 2016 23:56 GMT
#31
Because I find it fun.
JimmyJRaynor
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada16859 Posts
January 09 2016 23:57 GMT
#32
its fun and i'm too lazy to learn something else.
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Jan1997
Profile Blog Joined April 2013
Norway671 Posts
January 10 2016 00:00 GMT
#33
I don't. I just keep in touch with the community.
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huller20
Profile Joined August 2010
United States112 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-01-10 00:01:26
January 10 2016 00:01 GMT
#34
It is fast paced, fun, combines skill and strategy. I just love it, and can't get enough.
Cyanocyst
Profile Joined October 2010
2222 Posts
January 10 2016 00:01 GMT
#35
It's my try hard game. Its the game that actually takes effort to improve at, and is most rewarding to win.

Really enjoying the increased pace of play in lotv.

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NinjaToss
Profile Blog Joined October 2015
Austria1383 Posts
January 10 2016 00:12 GMT
#36
well I don't really play games so when my sister introduce the pro-scene to me I was like okay let's check it out and it looked super fun and I didn't actually intended to play and she was like you can try practising if you want and I'm like okay and it turned out to be super fun (and stressful) so I just keep playing for no particular reason other to improve. To enjoy a game you must be good at it it the reason I read somewhere
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Fecalfeast
Profile Joined January 2010
Canada11355 Posts
January 10 2016 00:13 GMT
#37
There are hardly any 1v1 games to play anymore that aren't turn based
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ProMeTheus112
Profile Joined December 2009
France2027 Posts
January 10 2016 00:20 GMT
#38
I still play Starcraft (BW) because it still teaches me tons of things playing it, it's the game with most complete set of skills I now, and I can still find new ways to play it and make them work. Getting better at it is still very rewarding!
ArmadA[NaS]
Profile Joined January 2014
United States347 Posts
January 10 2016 00:28 GMT
#39
Because its fun to improve and SC (both BW and SC2) has basically one of if not the highest skillcap and most strategical depth of any game out there.
Noocta
Profile Joined June 2010
France12578 Posts
January 10 2016 00:41 GMT
#40
I haven't played it since the end of WoL. I moved on from RTS to fighting games as my main competitive game to play and be good at.

Still follow the scene tho.
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Golgotha
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Korea (South)8418 Posts
January 10 2016 00:52 GMT
#41
it's a battle of wits and mechanical skill. it's rewarding in that competitive sense and winning a game gives a feeling that u dont get in any other game. It's because it is a game that requires a lot of thinking and strategy, not just fast fingers are good reflexes.
junkdrop
Profile Joined September 2015
26 Posts
January 10 2016 01:05 GMT
#42
im still playing it bcuz it is the best 1v1 game ever made and bcuz it really requires a lot of skills rather than mobas or fps which require skill but waaay less than sc2
pEcul!Ar
Profile Joined December 2015
52 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-01-10 01:54:32
January 10 2016 01:30 GMT
#43
On January 10 2016 10:05 junkdrop wrote:
im still playing it bcuz it is the best 1v1 game ever made and bcuz it really requires a lot of skills rather than mobas or fps which require skill but waaay less than sc2

The fact you try to compare fps games with rts makes your comment quite silly. Ever played quake? Duel that is, controlling the weapons you can pick up, the different armors (red armor, yellow armor and the armor shards, health bubbles and the megahealth) + the time it takes for every item to respawn.. Sorry, but it's obvious you didn't really think this through.

Sc2 is relatively easy, or at least it should be, for someone who puts in the effort. Sc2 compared to brood war, well.. Sc2 is like the noobie friendly brood war version, so if you care so much about the skill you need and you like rts games, challenge yourself and play brood war.

See what I did there? Made a comment just as silly as yours. It's rather annoying to see people comparing 2 different genres of games and unconsciously making it obvious they lack the knowledge to say such a thing.

I've played brood war, I've played q1/qw, q2, q3, q4, ql,.. One by one they were more challenging than brood war for me personally. Those fps games combine timing, control, you need the aim, you need the movement, the capability to adapt, more so than with starcraft.. If you based your opinion on the comparison between sc2 and let's say the latest call of duty game, of course, but i wouldn't use cod in my argument to put down the required skill level for fps games, it brings down the weight of your argument.

The majority of starcraft is routine, the build order, the timings.. Nothing is routine with quake for example. If your opponent forces you away from red armor, you are forced to go about it a different way, you don't know which health items, armor items nor which weapons and ammo he's prevented you from taking, unless you see or hear him do it, you're in the dark. You also have to calculate how much health and armor your opponent has before engaging into a fight + which weapons he has, based on that you can approach him the right way and from the right angle..

My apologies for the aggressive approach, but the lack of knowledge on your part regarding fps games was quite infuriating.
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InfCereal
Profile Joined December 2011
Canada1759 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-01-10 01:48:45
January 10 2016 01:44 GMT
#44
I'm not really sure. I don't enjoy LotV at all, I think the direction of the game is being catered to spectators, and it's a chore to play.

That said, I've never been ranked higher, and it's the only thing I'm good at so [image loading]
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BamBam
Profile Blog Joined November 2009
745 Posts
January 10 2016 02:16 GMT
#45
In all honestly? Its the game im the best with and understand the most. Thats the only reason I stick with it. Made GM for the third time at the beginning of lotv and I still see myself as one of the worst players of sc2, so I continue to try and improve. Really if anything its a competitive nature of mine because there are a few in the sc community I REFUSE to be worse than so I work really hard to prevent that.
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RvB
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
Netherlands6243 Posts
January 10 2016 02:45 GMT
#46
The thrill. I actually do not like booting up a game at all. When I've found a match and start playing though there isn't a game which can match the thrill I get from playing Starcraft.
Chaggi
Profile Joined August 2010
Korea (South)1936 Posts
January 10 2016 02:50 GMT
#47
There is nothing more thrilling and exciting than playing SC. You put so much time and effort into each match but also the game as a whole and so much rides on a single game.
ETisME
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
12489 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-01-10 04:18:52
January 10 2016 02:51 GMT
#48
none of the other games are nearly as addictive, it's responsive and fun, very little game breaking bugs and relies on a lot of educated guessing and thinking and multi tasking
you don't feel limited other than the meta and your build.

The units do whatever you want them to do almost 100% of the time and it is a battle of doing the best thing and doing more
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NiGoL
Profile Joined September 2008
1868 Posts
January 10 2016 03:13 GMT
#49
I don't play sc2 anymore since its way too easy imo compared to Broodwar. I do play some Broodwar nowadays but it's quite rare. And why people comeback to Starcraft is because you never really quit starcraft. It has to leave you.
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Ryndika
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
1489 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-01-10 04:05:08
January 10 2016 04:03 GMT
#50
For competition. Casual dota-style games could match it if you had 4 other people with same attitude and hunger which excludes immediately over 95% of playerbase for sure. Other games also have very dead amateur competitive scene compared to starcraft.

This is why Starcraft won't ever die.
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PuraDinn
Profile Joined October 2015
Canada15 Posts
January 10 2016 04:19 GMT
#51
1. I hate games where I have to rely on teammates
2. I love being competitive
3. I love the feeling of improvement
4. I don't have time to play 40+ minute LOL/DOTA/CS games

... also I love hating myself
Set a course, take it slow, make it happen :)
itsMAHVELbaybee
Profile Joined October 2008
292 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-01-10 04:46:42
January 10 2016 04:46 GMT
#52
Mechanically, its fun to play. Game starts up much faster so its not that huge of a time sink. Game is balanced like a one legged man in a log rolling contest which might really kill it for me if things don't shape up in the next month or so and Overwatch reopens with more beta invites.
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Seeker *
Profile Blog Joined April 2005
Where dat snitch at?37034 Posts
January 10 2016 05:14 GMT
#53
I loved HotS. LotV pisses me off. WoL was okay. I'm hoping one day I'll love LotV as much as I loved HotS.
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deacon.frost
Profile Joined February 2013
Czech Republic12129 Posts
January 10 2016 09:04 GMT
#54
On January 10 2016 14:14 Seeker wrote:
I loved HotS. LotV pisses me off. WoL was okay. I'm hoping one day I'll love LotV as much as I loved HotS.

So much this

Anyway, I am waiting for some balancing and better maps, so I am not playing now.
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Garmer
Profile Joined October 2010
1286 Posts
January 10 2016 09:11 GMT
#55
i'm not playing starcraft now because it's a bit too stressfull when you're 30, but i'm planning to play again in the future BW and sc2 a bit, because starcraft is simply the best RTS out there and i love RTS
lessQQmorePEWPEW
Profile Joined November 2011
Jamaica921 Posts
January 10 2016 09:23 GMT
#56
play sc2 while waiting for friends to join up on dota lobby. filler game
Why drink and drive when you can smoke and fly - Bob Marley
FanaticCZ
Profile Joined December 2011
Czech Republic287 Posts
January 10 2016 09:24 GMT
#57
It has always been my favorite RTS. And i never get bored of playing team games with my friends. And if im not playing Im watching GSL or SSL. Its a passion.
INnoVation is the GOAT!
WGT-Baal
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
France3401 Posts
January 10 2016 09:50 GMT
#58
I do not like lotv so i only play 2v2 w friends once in a while. I still play bw once a week, vs cpu or on iccup because it s fun and it s the game i grew up with.
Also, watching vant starleague keeps me motivated to play
Perhaps if I had more freetime i d play more lotv and get to like it, but sadly that isnt the case
Horang2 fan
HellHound
Profile Joined September 2014
Bulgaria5962 Posts
January 10 2016 11:11 GMT
#59
Fun.
Classic GosoO |sOs| Everyone has to give in, let Life win | Zest Is The Best | Roach Cultist | I recognize the might and wisdom of my Otherworldly overlord | Air vs Air 200/200 SC2 is best SC2 | PRIME has been robbed | Fuck prime go ST | ROACH ROACH ROACH
danbel1005
Profile Joined February 2008
United States1319 Posts
January 10 2016 11:16 GMT
#60
I'm addicted to it
"EE HAN TIMING" Jaedong vs Stork [22 December, 2007] 2set @ Finals EVER OSL.
atrox_
Profile Joined November 2010
United Kingdom1711 Posts
January 10 2016 11:25 GMT
#61
On January 10 2016 14:14 Seeker wrote:
I loved HotS. LotV pisses me off. WoL was okay. I'm hoping one day I'll love LotV as much as I loved HotS.


I'm currently feeling that. I'm still just queuing HotS because I find it much more enjoyable than LotV
Charoisaur
Profile Joined August 2014
Germany15995 Posts
January 10 2016 11:32 GMT
#62
On January 10 2016 14:14 Seeker wrote:
I loved HotS. LotV pisses me off. WoL was okay. I'm hoping one day I'll love LotV as much as I loved HotS.

^this
Many of the coolest moments in sc2 happen due to worker harassment
Heartland
Profile Blog Joined May 2012
Sweden24590 Posts
January 10 2016 11:48 GMT
#63
Because I think it's fun
Sissors
Profile Joined March 2012
1395 Posts
January 10 2016 12:04 GMT
#64
I enjoy myself, and as far as I am aware there is no alternative to SC2 (so another decent RTS).
Poopi
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
France12904 Posts
January 10 2016 12:05 GMT
#65
Because even though HotS was boring, WoL was great, and LotV is faster (you don't have 2-3 useless mn each game) with new economy and possibilities (tankivacs) that requires you to think differently than before.

TvT seems volatile (random doom drops seem strong, it feels like you always need to have tankivacs ready) but other than that it's fun learning to play, your hands are not left unused like in LoL (where only your mouse hand gets to have some fun) or non competitive games.
WriterMaru
RPR_Tempest
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Australia7798 Posts
January 10 2016 12:25 GMT
#66
Because of a sense of duty to my team and because I love all my SC2 friends.
Soundwave, Zerg player from Canberra, Australia. @SoundwaveSC
DeadByDawn
Profile Joined October 2012
United Kingdom476 Posts
January 10 2016 12:32 GMT
#67
Because I love the RTS genre. It must be because I am British - I love building armies and stealing foreign lands

At the moment though that means SC Total Annihilation as LoTV is too broken to be fun.
Bastinian
Profile Joined October 2014
Serbia177 Posts
January 10 2016 12:39 GMT
#68
Because there is no good 1v1 competitive game as Starcraft atm...
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Vortun
Profile Joined May 2012
42 Posts
January 10 2016 13:41 GMT
#69
I like to have a competitive outlet that allows me to improve at my own leisure without having to depend on other people - SC2 is the best candidate. While I've followed the scene on and off since the release of the game, I played very little during WoL and (especially) HotS as I simply did not find them fun, something was missing. I feel that with LotV, the game has truly hit its stride. It's not especially figured out yet, and as a result slightly unbalanced, but I believe that the core game has improved enough to compensate.
PinoKotsBeer
Profile Joined February 2014
Netherlands1385 Posts
January 10 2016 18:29 GMT
#70
The game can be fun, but for terran its very stale and boring. The more i play LOTV the more i want to stop with sc2. HOTS allowed to do some fun builds, none of that is viable anymore. Unlike for the other races, but i cant be arsed to play those. Also blizzard's "feedback" isnt helping either. It was a fun game, enjoyed while it lasted. GG
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EatingBomber
Profile Joined August 2015
1017 Posts
January 10 2016 18:42 GMT
#71
Though the game is frustrating, the victories taste sweet.
Skimer
Profile Joined January 2015
Russian Federation15 Posts
January 10 2016 18:44 GMT
#72
I'm masochist, i love being annihilated with adepts, ravager rushed and other stuff.
I do not enjoy LOTV as much as HOTS, last 20 games were so frustrating for me that i wanted to delete the game at some point, but maybe it's because I haven't figured out the game to myself, the time will show. But seriously it's a game that even if you hate it with all your soul you'll come back and play it again and again.
HoZBlooddrop
Profile Blog Joined December 2013
Italy324 Posts
January 10 2016 18:45 GMT
#73
i like competing
OtherWorld
Profile Blog Joined October 2013
France17333 Posts
January 10 2016 18:58 GMT
#74
I don't. I did because it was my way of doing something where I had to compete against others. Now I found better, more satisfying, and more importantly fairer ways of spending my "competition quota".
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phodacbiet
Profile Joined August 2010
United States1740 Posts
January 10 2016 19:06 GMT
#75
Because I only have a 5 dollars mouse but bought a 100 dollars mechanical keyboard, and there are no other games out there that requires as much keyboard smashing as StarCraft. Everything requires mouse clicking nowadays with the occasional q w e r pressing.

Just kidding, I get a weird and unhealthy kick out of it when people on NA rage at me.
egrimm
Profile Joined September 2011
Poland1199 Posts
January 10 2016 19:16 GMT
#76
On January 10 2016 14:14 Seeker wrote:
I loved HotS. LotV pisses me off. WoL was okay. I'm hoping one day I'll love LotV as much as I loved HotS.

Same here.
During whole 2015 I was hyped as f*ck for all sc2 tournaments, played couple of LANs with my friends, talked and thought a lot about the strategies but since the Blizzcon finals and transition to LotV I have trouble with finding #passion. I also hope that once the dust settles (especially after revolution in WCS system) I will get my passion back.
sOs TY PartinG
ProMeTheus112
Profile Joined December 2009
France2027 Posts
January 10 2016 19:22 GMT
#77
On January 10 2016 10:30 pEcul!Ar wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 10 2016 10:05 junkdrop wrote:
im still playing it bcuz it is the best 1v1 game ever made and bcuz it really requires a lot of skills rather than mobas or fps which require skill but waaay less than sc2

The fact you try to compare fps games with rts makes your comment quite silly. Ever played quake? Duel that is, controlling the weapons you can pick up, the different armors (red armor, yellow armor and the armor shards, health bubbles and the megahealth) + the time it takes for every item to respawn.. Sorry, but it's obvious you didn't really think this through.

Sc2 is relatively easy, or at least it should be, for someone who puts in the effort. Sc2 compared to brood war, well.. Sc2 is like the noobie friendly brood war version, so if you care so much about the skill you need and you like rts games, challenge yourself and play brood war.

See what I did there? Made a comment just as silly as yours. It's rather annoying to see people comparing 2 different genres of games and unconsciously making it obvious they lack the knowledge to say such a thing.

I've played brood war, I've played q1/qw, q2, q3, q4, ql,.. One by one they were more challenging than brood war for me personally. Those fps games combine timing, control, you need the aim, you need the movement, the capability to adapt, more so than with starcraft.. If you based your opinion on the comparison between sc2 and let's say the latest call of duty game, of course, but i wouldn't use cod in my argument to put down the required skill level for fps games, it brings down the weight of your argument.

The majority of starcraft is routine, the build order, the timings.. Nothing is routine with quake for example. If your opponent forces you away from red armor, you are forced to go about it a different way, you don't know which health items, armor items nor which weapons and ammo he's prevented you from taking, unless you see or hear him do it, you're in the dark. You also have to calculate how much health and armor your opponent has before engaging into a fight + which weapons he has, based on that you can approach him the right way and from the right angle..

My apologies for the aggressive approach, but the lack of knowledge on your part regarding fps games was quite infuriating.

Quake 1v1 is freaking amazing man
I play it sometimes but it's hard as #########
swissman777
Profile Joined September 2014
1106 Posts
January 10 2016 19:25 GMT
#78
On January 11 2016 04:16 egrimm wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 10 2016 14:14 Seeker wrote:
I loved HotS. LotV pisses me off. WoL was okay. I'm hoping one day I'll love LotV as much as I loved HotS.

Same here.
During whole 2015 I was hyped as f*ck for all sc2 tournaments, played couple of LANs with my friends, talked and thought a lot about the strategies but since the Blizzcon finals and transition to LotV I have trouble with finding #passion. I also hope that once the dust settles (especially after revolution in WCS system) I will get my passion back.


Once the cheese builds are figured out and you've gotten better at defending them, I bet you'll get your passion back.
ElMeanYo
Profile Joined March 2011
United States1032 Posts
January 10 2016 20:06 GMT
#79
I keep coming back to Starcraft 2 mostly because of nostalgia. Since SC1 came out I've been playing. The game connects me to my youth when I had more time to play.
“The only man who never makes mistakes is the man who never does anything.” ― Theodore Roosevelt
Phredxor
Profile Joined May 2013
New Zealand15076 Posts
January 10 2016 20:17 GMT
#80
I keep having phases of not playing it at all for a few months then getting back into it. I like to play a mix of 1s team games and arcade to keep me interested. BW was mostly just ums for me.

Been playing on and off for like 16 years so i guess it's working :D
Shuffleblade
Profile Joined February 2012
Sweden1903 Posts
January 10 2016 20:43 GMT
#81
I love watching competitve SC2, I don't think I can ever let that go. Simply because of the strategic depth and cool stuff you see if you are good enough to realise the mindgames and subtle things that players do to edge ahead.

Because I love watching I often get an itch to play after watching, so I also get periods of intense gaming and then periods of only watching.
Maru, Bomber, TY, Dear, Classic, DeParture and Rogue!
SoleSteeler
Profile Joined April 2003
Canada5448 Posts
January 11 2016 00:02 GMT
#82
The game is fun as hell to win... but it can be incredibly frustrating to lose... especially during loss streaks. Which is what my ladder experience is generally like. Win streaks and loss streaks.
[PkF] Wire
Profile Joined March 2013
France24227 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-01-11 00:28:22
January 11 2016 00:19 GMT
#83
On January 10 2016 20:32 Charoisaur wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 10 2016 14:14 Seeker wrote:
I loved HotS. LotV pisses me off. WoL was okay. I'm hoping one day I'll love LotV as much as I loved HotS.

^this

Let's be fair, as much as I loved HotS, it was an extremely stale game at times, especially if you played P. PvT and PvP were extremely boring if you liked variety, you were pretty much forced to play some blink into colossi style in PvT and past the coinflippy early game, PvP was atrocious (though I had a lot of fun with Classic's style, incorporating a void ray squad to my colossi army). PvZ was a blast to play though (not much to watch once blink sentry styles got prevalent sadly).

LotV has a lot of potential if you ask me, probably more than HotS due to the mineral change which I think will turn out to be a good move. The tweaks that need to be done are rather obvious (good maps, nerfing some units), and even in the current state I'm having a lot of fun. It's a very taxing game, and a bit of a blank page timings / bo wise, which I like.
roleypoley
Profile Joined January 2016
1 Post
Last Edited: 2016-01-11 14:28:11
January 11 2016 14:19 GMT
#84
Because I really like RTS games and there aren't any others to replace Starcraft with.
KOtical
Profile Joined January 2011
Germany451 Posts
January 11 2016 14:40 GMT
#85
i stopped playing a few weeks ago. still enjoy watching though...
HugoBallzak
Profile Joined November 2015
700 Posts
January 11 2016 14:47 GMT
#86
I don't.
wishr
Profile Joined February 2012
Russian Federation262 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-01-11 15:41:24
January 11 2016 15:16 GMT
#87
1. 1x1 is more rewarding then team-play games.
2. No stupid teammates, ability to participate in tournaments without having a team.
3. Highest skill cap.
4. Definitely the best game to watch!
5. I grew up with SC:BW and WC3.
6. Very fast games compared to all other competitive scenes.
7. Training for WC4!
* Only girls complain about balance! *
Ctone23
Profile Blog Joined December 2012
United States1839 Posts
January 11 2016 15:23 GMT
#88
I still play for a lot of reasons, but mainly because I enjoy the RTS genre the most. I love replaying campaign missions and getting creative with the abilities/units and beating missions several times over. The co-op has that same creative element, and it's been fun to play with friends.

1v1 and team games are an added bonus sprinkled in between, there aren't any other games that keep me coming back quite like SC2.
TL+ Member
Legobiten
Profile Joined October 2015
71 Posts
January 11 2016 15:23 GMT
#89
Because it's an awesome game both to play and watch!! Simply amazing. If you like a challenge that is.
feebas
Profile Joined February 2011
Finland268 Posts
January 11 2016 15:36 GMT
#90
I find great enjoyment in the 1v1 aspect of it all. You simply have no excuses when things go wrong—it's all you. The mechanical skill required to execute things ingame makes it a learning game, one that gives off the feeling that you are doing more than merely playing a game.

As much as I dislike the direction they went with void, I'll still be playing and watching for as long as I can.
paska peli
Isualin
Profile Joined March 2011
Germany1903 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-01-11 15:55:06
January 11 2016 15:41 GMT
#91
I did not play ranked games since the brood lord infestor era. I was not really high level(started in silver, reached high diamond) but i did not have fun while playing the game. Seriously, i chose doing every single chore or homework before starting my ladder games. Since i was not planning to go pro, playing sc2 felt like a waste of time. I played tons of single player games and lot of league of legends but i did not stop following the sc2 scene since then.

I started playing again with Lotv. I still don't have a lot of fun but executing a plan perfectly gives a sense of success(a build order, reaper harass, marine drop etc) It feels like i am playing starbow or something though, every build is different from what i remember. I have severe ladder anxiety but my current goal is playing 4 games every single day. Even if i lose every single one of them i learn a lot.

And to stay on topic, my reasons are:
1-) The sense of success by executing a plan perfectly/as well as possible
2-) The feeling of progression over a long time
| INnoVation | The literal god TY | ByuNjwa | LRSL when? |
HaN-
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
France1920 Posts
January 11 2016 15:42 GMT
#92
Because it's the only game I've played where all my clicks matters.
Calendaraka Foxhan
Apmje
Profile Joined March 2013
United Kingdom41 Posts
January 11 2016 16:02 GMT
#93
Only started playing with LotV...so not bored yet. I only came over 'cause I can't deal with the whiny kids in Dota and CS despite both being great competitive games.
mAnarch
Profile Joined January 2011
United States36 Posts
January 11 2016 16:08 GMT
#94
Because you can improve in SO many ways both intellectually and mechanically.
Hit me up for bw spar
Nuclease
Profile Joined August 2011
United States1049 Posts
January 11 2016 17:15 GMT
#95
On January 10 2016 07:36 Aocowns wrote:
i like feeling pain and its either playing sc2 or cutting myself


Basically this. There's something truly sick about the ladder of SC2, which is why it can never be a casual game.

Seriously, though, I would play team games like Heroes of the Storm, but I hate team format. There's nothing that frustrates me more in competition than watching my team lose due to some jackass that can't work with a team/doesn't know the game. SC doesn't have that problem, although it can be more personally frustrating, because when you lose, it's all on you.
Zealots, not zee-lots. | Never forget, KTViolet, Go)Space. | You will never be as good as By.Flash, and your drops will never be as sick as MMA.
GreenHealing
Profile Joined December 2015
82 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-01-11 17:23:47
January 11 2016 17:23 GMT
#96
Only reason I play this game is that this is only 1v1 game with actual esport and if you are good enough, you can earn good money playing it, and my goal is to become pro sc2 player. But I really hate the game.
Naracs_Duc
Profile Joined August 2015
746 Posts
January 11 2016 17:27 GMT
#97
Its a strange question "why do you keep playing" because there is no reason "why" someone keeps playing because those reasons are always arbitrary. A better question would really be--looking back at how much time you've spent on SC2, are you proud of the time you've put into this game or are you shocked by the number?
wjat
Profile Joined August 2015
385 Posts
January 11 2016 17:32 GMT
#98
On January 12 2016 02:23 GreenHealing wrote:
Only reason I play this game is that this is only 1v1 game with actual esport and if you are good enough, you can earn good money playing it, and my goal is to become pro sc2 player. But I really hate the game.


Do you hate the game when you're winning?
GreenHealing
Profile Joined December 2015
82 Posts
January 11 2016 17:34 GMT
#99
On January 12 2016 02:32 wjat wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 12 2016 02:23 GreenHealing wrote:
Only reason I play this game is that this is only 1v1 game with actual esport and if you are good enough, you can earn good money playing it, and my goal is to become pro sc2 player. But I really hate the game.


Do you hate the game when you're winning?

Yes, the game is way too stressfull and knowing that I only won because opponent was really bad.
Legobiten
Profile Joined October 2015
71 Posts
January 11 2016 17:45 GMT
#100
I really don't understand people playing a game they don't like. That's a waste of time. For real.

For me the game makes me use my brain in a way I don't normally use it in in everyday life (work, family, etc.) and I love that! Brain exercise in a unique and extremely challenging way. Pure fun. Even if I lose.
Daimai
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Sweden762 Posts
January 11 2016 23:21 GMT
#101
Enjoy the 1v1 format, the feeling when you win a long hard fought macro game is one of the best you can find in gaming.
To pray is to accept defeat.
TelecoM
Profile Blog Joined January 2010
United States10682 Posts
January 11 2016 23:38 GMT
#102
On January 10 2016 07:36 Aocowns wrote:
i like feeling pain and its either playing sc2 or cutting myself

lol
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Chernobyl
Profile Joined March 2011
Brazil143 Posts
January 12 2016 00:10 GMT
#103
Because is a game that YOU need to improve as a player, instead of improve a account.
Spyridon
Profile Joined April 2010
United States997 Posts
January 12 2016 00:15 GMT
#104
On January 12 2016 02:15 Nuclease wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 10 2016 07:36 Aocowns wrote:
i like feeling pain and its either playing sc2 or cutting myself


Basically this. There's something truly sick about the ladder of SC2, which is why it can never be a casual game.

Seriously, though, I would play team games like Heroes of the Storm, but I hate team format. There's nothing that frustrates me more in competition than watching my team lose due to some jackass that can't work with a team/doesn't know the game. SC doesn't have that problem, although it can be more personally frustrating, because when you lose, it's all on you.


Yeah, I prefer 1v1 games for that same reason. But SC2 doesn't do it for me anymore. Sadly I have not played for the last few weeks, do not plan to unless they change the economic curve from being so fast. It causes so many problems. 12 worker starts fine, minerals running out faster is fine... but the game basically STARTS with you beginning T2/T2.5 units in your initial build... That's retarded. There's so much less strategic decision making, and the economic curve empowers/highlights all of SC2's flaws (hard counters, air unit balance, and harassment has always been too little of an investment in SC2 and it's far worse than ever these days).

I don't mind that the game is hard. I don't mind that the ladder design. I can deal with unit imbalanced - If it was strictly unit balance issues, I would put up with it until they fixed things up. But RTS games are built upon the economy, and economic issues cause problems in every single other aspect of the game, from scouting, to harass strength, to balance of to unit strength, to asymmetric macro design - it is ALL suffering right now. The game of SC2 has always been too volatile in these areas, and now it is even more volatile than ever.

Yeah I do enjoy the increased action, I still enjoy actual combat and microing in battle with my units vs the enemies. But the strategic portion is SOO lacking now. Strategic gameplay is built entirely on having to invest time (resources) on difficult decisions on the fly, and deal with the repercussions of those decisions (as well as your enemies) and adapt as the game goes on. The less time you have to invest for the desired payload, the less strategic decision making/gameplay you have. So LotV is more in the direction of a micro battle, but considering the importance of macro, it's just a half-measure. LotV is basically half-assed implementation of a "micro battle" style game, combined with half-assed implementations of strategic gameplay. It does not cater to either style, and only caters to people who want micro battles as the result of hyperactive macro mechanics.

I don't know when Blizzard decided "strategy = macro". But that's a false statement, and it really sucks that SC is about nothing but mechanics and micro now.

I hope it changes, but that last glimmer of hope faded when they decided to rush the game for release.

Since there's no RTS competition these days, the only way I could satisfy my 1v1 competitive cravings is to go back to fighting games. Ironically they are much more strategic than SC2 nowdays, since playing a fighting game competitively is basically non-stop mind games. So nowdays I play a mix of fighting games for my 1v1 competitive cravings, and team games with friends.

Would love to add an RTS game to my main games again, but my hope for SC2 is basically gone. Blizzard has never been known for great games at vanilla release, but has built a reputation for releasing expansions/patches that turn mediocre games in to great ones. Hearthstone went from a game players didn't take serious at all to the #1-2 game on twitch, D3 had a horrid release but now actually is fun to play and has a huge amount of players login for each new season, WC3 and SC1's expansions completely turned them in to far better games.... Yet SC2 is on it's 3rd release and the problems are worse than ever....?

It's seeming more and more true that SC2 is a game that Blizzard simply can not turn around...
neptunusfisk
Profile Blog Joined July 2012
2286 Posts
January 12 2016 00:34 GMT
#105
I play SC2 mostly 1v1 with friends and it is so rewarding to win. To just do nice strats and cool things is rewarding even if you lose.

The game is simple enough for me to care about understanding the rules, and deep enough to keep me interested.

It is such an all-consuming experience to hardcore focus on something for 20 minutes straight, it just fascinates me so much how far removed you get from the outer world while playing.

In contrast, when I play CSGO for fun with my friends, it is overall quite chill with some tense moments mixed in. SC2 is such a different beast in terms of concentration, and that's one reason I adore it.
maru G5L pls
Pugfarmer
Profile Joined April 2014
70 Posts
January 12 2016 00:39 GMT
#106
On January 12 2016 09:15 Spyridon wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 12 2016 02:15 Nuclease wrote:
On January 10 2016 07:36 Aocowns wrote:
i like feeling pain and its either playing sc2 or cutting myself


Basically this. There's something truly sick about the ladder of SC2, which is why it can never be a casual game.

Seriously, though, I would play team games like Heroes of the Storm, but I hate team format. There's nothing that frustrates me more in competition than watching my team lose due to some jackass that can't work with a team/doesn't know the game. SC doesn't have that problem, although it can be more personally frustrating, because when you lose, it's all on you.


Yeah, I prefer 1v1 games for that same reason. But SC2 doesn't do it for me anymore. Sadly I have not played for the last few weeks, do not plan to unless they change the economic curve from being so fast. It causes so many problems. 12 worker starts fine, minerals running out faster is fine... but the game basically STARTS with you beginning T2/T2.5 units in your initial build... That's retarded. There's so much less strategic decision making, and the economic curve empowers/highlights all of SC2's flaws (hard counters, air unit balance, and harassment has always been too little of an investment in SC2 and it's far worse than ever these days).

I don't mind that the game is hard. I don't mind that the ladder design. I can deal with unit imbalanced - If it was strictly unit balance issues, I would put up with it until they fixed things up. But RTS games are built upon the economy, and economic issues cause problems in every single other aspect of the game, from scouting, to harass strength, to balance of to unit strength, to asymmetric macro design - it is ALL suffering right now. The game of SC2 has always been too volatile in these areas, and now it is even more volatile than ever.

Yeah I do enjoy the increased action, I still enjoy actual combat and microing in battle with my units vs the enemies. But the strategic portion is SOO lacking now. Strategic gameplay is built entirely on having to invest time (resources) on difficult decisions on the fly, and deal with the repercussions of those decisions (as well as your enemies) and adapt as the game goes on. The less time you have to invest for the desired payload, the less strategic decision making/gameplay you have. So LotV is more in the direction of a micro battle, but considering the importance of macro, it's just a half-measure. LotV is basically half-assed implementation of a "micro battle" style game, combined with half-assed implementations of strategic gameplay. It does not cater to either style, and only caters to people who want micro battles as the result of hyperactive macro mechanics.

I don't know when Blizzard decided "strategy = macro". But that's a false statement, and it really sucks that SC is about nothing but mechanics and micro now.

I hope it changes, but that last glimmer of hope faded when they decided to rush the game for release.

Since there's no RTS competition these days, the only way I could satisfy my 1v1 competitive cravings is to go back to fighting games. Ironically they are much more strategic than SC2 nowdays, since playing a fighting game competitively is basically non-stop mind games. So nowdays I play a mix of fighting games for my 1v1 competitive cravings, and team games with friends.

Would love to add an RTS game to my main games again, but my hope for SC2 is basically gone. Blizzard has never been known for great games at vanilla release, but has built a reputation for releasing expansions/patches that turn mediocre games in to great ones. Hearthstone went from a game players didn't take serious at all to the #1-2 game on twitch, D3 had a horrid release but now actually is fun to play and has a huge amount of players login for each new season, WC3 and SC1's expansions completely turned them in to far better games.... Yet SC2 is on it's 3rd release and the problems are worse than ever....?

It's seeming more and more true that SC2 is a game that Blizzard simply can not turn around...


I think you missed the title.
Supter
Profile Joined February 2011
France382 Posts
January 12 2016 00:47 GMT
#107
I don't play much overall, and have never achieved more than top diamond. But I love the competitive scene. Other than that, I love playing with people I know, playing with friends. You can talk about the game, tell the other where he should improve or ask him what he can expect me to have to counter what he did to me. So i'm not much of a ladder player. But I've played many game, and not a single one gives me this feel. You played half against your opponent, half against yourself. If you have more than 1K mineral, it's because you weren't paying attention. If you die to an unexpected all-in, you know you could have searched for it a bit more. If I fail to something i've never seen before, well, I have to learn how to counter it the next time I see it.

It's all about what you want from a game. I find StarCraft to be both physically and emotionally demanding. I have played countless games, and I've had fun on them. LoL, Hearthstone, WoW and such. But not a single one has giving me more than enjoyment : enjoyment and a feeling of improvment. Even if it's only a video game.
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