For example, some people may keep playing StarCraft because of their friends and how fun it is to play the game with them. Others may play the game because they like the challenge it presents, etc.
So what is your reason to keep playing?

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Shield
Bulgaria4824 Posts
For example, some people may keep playing StarCraft because of their friends and how fun it is to play the game with them. Others may play the game because they like the challenge it presents, etc. So what is your reason to keep playing? ![]() | ||
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iMrising
United States1099 Posts
I play SC2 for the same reasons, but after becoming more desensitized to the game after playing it so long, I think I partly play it because I'm simply good at it relative to other games. The initial luster is gone, but I've been playing for maybe ~8 years. RTS is still fun ![]() | ||
Tenks
United States3104 Posts
1) It is fun 2) I prefer 1v1 format to team games 3) It is fast paced 4) Everything is within my control. If I lose it is because I myself errored. 5) You can always, ALWAYS get better | ||
Musicus
Germany23576 Posts
![]() I also enjoy the challenge sc2 provides and the fact that you can always improve. I want to start playing some Go now, because I like just love hard 1v1 strategy games with an seemingly endless skill ceiling. It will be nice to play something turn based where speed doesn't matter when I'm too lazy for sc2. | ||
Tenks
United States3104 Posts
On January 10 2016 07:09 Musicus wrote: Day9's RTS peaked my interest, but then I heard it's a 3v3 game so I will stick with sc2 ![]() Not to hijack the thread but is there much known about his RTS? Or was your interest piqued because of Day9 being tied to it? | ||
TheBloodyDwarf
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coolman123123
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A_needle_jog
Korea (South)699 Posts
![]() Starcraft is my main multiplaying game. I love singleplayer games very much with good story, worlds and characters too, but for multiplayer I need Starcraft because it is very skill based and has a lot of support for an RTS game. I think it is huge tragedy that so many people play other games like LoL which I think in personal opinion is a very bad game. I wish more people would support Starcraft so it becomes more glorious ![]() | ||
Musicus
Germany23576 Posts
On January 10 2016 07:13 Tenks wrote: Show nested quote + On January 10 2016 07:09 Musicus wrote: Day9's RTS peaked my interest, but then I heard it's a 3v3 game so I will stick with sc2 ![]() Not to hijack the thread but is there much known about his RTS? Or was your interest piqued because of Day9 being tied to it? Yeah purely because Day9 was part of it and I know a lot of sc2 players have been play testing it for a while (Lambo once ended his stream and said he has to go playtest Day9's game now). Then I checked out their developer updates, but lost all interest when I saw it's not 1v1. To keep this thread on topic, here is the thread http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/games/429683-artillerys-project-atlas, there is some info in there and I'm sure people there know more about it if you have questions ![]() | ||
TelecoM
United States10682 Posts
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Ansibled
United Kingdom9872 Posts
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DinoMight
United States3725 Posts
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Gullis
Sweden740 Posts
And my passion has been revived with lotv ![]() | ||
Grumbels
Netherlands7031 Posts
On January 10 2016 07:20 Musicus wrote: Show nested quote + On January 10 2016 07:13 Tenks wrote: On January 10 2016 07:09 Musicus wrote: Day9's RTS peaked my interest, but then I heard it's a 3v3 game so I will stick with sc2 ![]() Not to hijack the thread but is there much known about his RTS? Or was your interest piqued because of Day9 being tied to it? Yeah purely because Day9 was part of it and I know a lot of sc2 players have been play testing it for a while (Lambo once ended his stream and said he has to go playtest Day9's game now). Then I checked out their developer updates, but lost all interest when I saw it's not 1v1. To keep this thread on topic, here is the thread http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/games/429683-artillerys-project-atlas, there is some info in there and I'm sure people there know more about it if you have questions ![]() They recently had a public test, as far as I know. I get the email updates, but I can't stand playing team games (I hate people) so I never participate in the tests. There's probably people around (streamers especially) in case anyone is looking for updates. | ||
Aocowns
Norway6070 Posts
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Qwyn
United States2779 Posts
And just when I thought that I was done playing for good a load of friends started playing competitively, lol. So I feel obligated to hop on every weekend and join them in some team games or obs, and naturally want to play a bit to maintain my mechanics. | ||
_fool
Netherlands678 Posts
![]() And good casters! I watch more twitch then I watch live television. Good casters are my bread and butter entertainment. | ||
swissman777
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11cc
Finland561 Posts
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starslayer
United States696 Posts
On January 10 2016 07:32 DinoMight wrote: Because I'm stubborn and I love hating myself. this but really I ask myself this every time i log on, honestly I still don't have a good answer but I like that rush you get in game, that drive to get better, that rage when you lose and know you could've won. That nostalgic feeling i get when i watch tastosis at 6am that brings me back to the WOL days when i first got into sc2 trying to learn and getting my ass kick every game. learning something new every game. Also I love that even though there's a "meta" the games aren't the same thing over and over, its something different every time. that beings said Im playing less and less, why not sure, maybe dont want to invest the time it takes to be as good as I know I can be i guess and hate being bad. | ||
Luolis
Finland7136 Posts
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beheamoth
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xtorn
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blade55555
United States17423 Posts
On January 10 2016 07:06 Tenks wrote: I stopped playing for HotS. Came back for LotV. 1) It is fun 2) I prefer 1v1 format to team games 3) It is fast paced 4) Everything is within my control. If I lose it is because I myself errored. 5) You can always, ALWAYS get better This is why I still play. I also stopped playing hots in 2013 when turtle everything became best way to play. | ||
swissman777
1106 Posts
On January 10 2016 08:29 beheamoth wrote: ive played sc since the very first week it was out and i was at college when it did! recently, ive started to not play this game at all. from week to week! this is the first time in all of that time that ive never played a single game. Maybe there is a time where you just hang up ur hat, i never thought it would happen to me. I dont think its the game at all, its realising the countless hrs spent on a pure pass time and how good i could have been at something which may have helped more for my family and myself financially You mean not being addicted in games? Yeah that's a big problem in South Korea. But I think people would get better at handling this as we get more experienced as a society | ||
Big J
Austria16289 Posts
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Polygamy
Austria1114 Posts
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TheDougler
Canada8305 Posts
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KtJ
United States3514 Posts
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Fliparoni
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JimmyJRaynor
Canada16859 Posts
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Jan1997
Norway671 Posts
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huller20
United States112 Posts
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Cyanocyst
2222 Posts
Really enjoying the increased pace of play in lotv. | ||
NinjaToss
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Fecalfeast
Canada11355 Posts
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ProMeTheus112
France2027 Posts
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ArmadA[NaS]
United States347 Posts
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Noocta
France12578 Posts
Still follow the scene tho. | ||
Golgotha
Korea (South)8418 Posts
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junkdrop
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pEcul!Ar
52 Posts
On January 10 2016 10:05 junkdrop wrote: im still playing it bcuz it is the best 1v1 game ever made and bcuz it really requires a lot of skills rather than mobas or fps which require skill but waaay less than sc2 The fact you try to compare fps games with rts makes your comment quite silly. Ever played quake? Duel that is, controlling the weapons you can pick up, the different armors (red armor, yellow armor and the armor shards, health bubbles and the megahealth) + the time it takes for every item to respawn.. Sorry, but it's obvious you didn't really think this through. Sc2 is relatively easy, or at least it should be, for someone who puts in the effort. Sc2 compared to brood war, well.. Sc2 is like the noobie friendly brood war version, so if you care so much about the skill you need and you like rts games, challenge yourself and play brood war. See what I did there? Made a comment just as silly as yours. It's rather annoying to see people comparing 2 different genres of games and unconsciously making it obvious they lack the knowledge to say such a thing. I've played brood war, I've played q1/qw, q2, q3, q4, ql,.. One by one they were more challenging than brood war for me personally. Those fps games combine timing, control, you need the aim, you need the movement, the capability to adapt, more so than with starcraft.. If you based your opinion on the comparison between sc2 and let's say the latest call of duty game, of course, but i wouldn't use cod in my argument to put down the required skill level for fps games, it brings down the weight of your argument. The majority of starcraft is routine, the build order, the timings.. Nothing is routine with quake for example. If your opponent forces you away from red armor, you are forced to go about it a different way, you don't know which health items, armor items nor which weapons and ammo he's prevented you from taking, unless you see or hear him do it, you're in the dark. You also have to calculate how much health and armor your opponent has before engaging into a fight + which weapons he has, based on that you can approach him the right way and from the right angle.. My apologies for the aggressive approach, but the lack of knowledge on your part regarding fps games was quite infuriating. | ||
InfCereal
Canada1759 Posts
That said, I've never been ranked higher, and it's the only thing I'm good at so ![]() | ||
BamBam
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RvB
Netherlands6243 Posts
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Chaggi
Korea (South)1936 Posts
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ETisME
12489 Posts
you don't feel limited other than the meta and your build. The units do whatever you want them to do almost 100% of the time and it is a battle of doing the best thing and doing more | ||
NiGoL
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Ryndika
1489 Posts
This is why Starcraft won't ever die. | ||
PuraDinn
Canada15 Posts
2. I love being competitive 3. I love the feeling of improvement 4. I don't have time to play 40+ minute LOL/DOTA/CS games ... also I love hating myself | ||
itsMAHVELbaybee
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deacon.frost
Czech Republic12129 Posts
On January 10 2016 14:14 Seeker wrote: I loved HotS. LotV pisses me off. WoL was okay. I'm hoping one day I'll love LotV as much as I loved HotS. So much this ![]() Anyway, I am waiting for some balancing and better maps, so I am not playing now. | ||
Garmer
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lessQQmorePEWPEW
Jamaica921 Posts
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FanaticCZ
Czech Republic287 Posts
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WGT-Baal
France3401 Posts
Also, watching vant starleague keeps me motivated to play ![]() Perhaps if I had more freetime i d play more lotv and get to like it, but sadly that isnt the case | ||
HellHound
Bulgaria5962 Posts
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danbel1005
United States1319 Posts
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atrox_
United Kingdom1711 Posts
On January 10 2016 14:14 Seeker wrote: I loved HotS. LotV pisses me off. WoL was okay. I'm hoping one day I'll love LotV as much as I loved HotS. I'm currently feeling that. I'm still just queuing HotS because I find it much more enjoyable than LotV | ||
Charoisaur
Germany15995 Posts
On January 10 2016 14:14 Seeker wrote: I loved HotS. LotV pisses me off. WoL was okay. I'm hoping one day I'll love LotV as much as I loved HotS. ^this | ||
Heartland
Sweden24590 Posts
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Poopi
France12904 Posts
TvT seems volatile (random doom drops seem strong, it feels like you always need to have tankivacs ready) but other than that it's fun learning to play, your hands are not left unused like in LoL (where only your mouse hand gets to have some fun) or non competitive games. | ||
RPR_Tempest
Australia7798 Posts
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DeadByDawn
United Kingdom476 Posts
![]() At the moment though that means SC Total Annihilation as LoTV is too broken to be fun. | ||
Bastinian
Serbia177 Posts
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Vortun
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PinoKotsBeer
Netherlands1385 Posts
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EatingBomber
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Skimer
Russian Federation15 Posts
I do not enjoy LOTV as much as HOTS, last 20 games were so frustrating for me that i wanted to delete the game at some point, but maybe it's because I haven't figured out the game to myself, the time will show. But seriously it's a game that even if you hate it with all your soul you'll come back and play it again and again. | ||
HoZBlooddrop
Italy324 Posts
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OtherWorld
France17333 Posts
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phodacbiet
United States1740 Posts
Just kidding, I get a weird and unhealthy kick out of it when people on NA rage at me. | ||
egrimm
Poland1199 Posts
On January 10 2016 14:14 Seeker wrote: I loved HotS. LotV pisses me off. WoL was okay. I'm hoping one day I'll love LotV as much as I loved HotS. Same here. During whole 2015 I was hyped as f*ck for all sc2 tournaments, played couple of LANs with my friends, talked and thought a lot about the strategies but since the Blizzcon finals and transition to LotV I have trouble with finding #passion. I also hope that once the dust settles (especially after revolution in WCS system) I will get my passion back. | ||
ProMeTheus112
France2027 Posts
On January 10 2016 10:30 pEcul!Ar wrote: Show nested quote + On January 10 2016 10:05 junkdrop wrote: im still playing it bcuz it is the best 1v1 game ever made and bcuz it really requires a lot of skills rather than mobas or fps which require skill but waaay less than sc2 The fact you try to compare fps games with rts makes your comment quite silly. Ever played quake? Duel that is, controlling the weapons you can pick up, the different armors (red armor, yellow armor and the armor shards, health bubbles and the megahealth) + the time it takes for every item to respawn.. Sorry, but it's obvious you didn't really think this through. Sc2 is relatively easy, or at least it should be, for someone who puts in the effort. Sc2 compared to brood war, well.. Sc2 is like the noobie friendly brood war version, so if you care so much about the skill you need and you like rts games, challenge yourself and play brood war. See what I did there? Made a comment just as silly as yours. It's rather annoying to see people comparing 2 different genres of games and unconsciously making it obvious they lack the knowledge to say such a thing. I've played brood war, I've played q1/qw, q2, q3, q4, ql,.. One by one they were more challenging than brood war for me personally. Those fps games combine timing, control, you need the aim, you need the movement, the capability to adapt, more so than with starcraft.. If you based your opinion on the comparison between sc2 and let's say the latest call of duty game, of course, but i wouldn't use cod in my argument to put down the required skill level for fps games, it brings down the weight of your argument. The majority of starcraft is routine, the build order, the timings.. Nothing is routine with quake for example. If your opponent forces you away from red armor, you are forced to go about it a different way, you don't know which health items, armor items nor which weapons and ammo he's prevented you from taking, unless you see or hear him do it, you're in the dark. You also have to calculate how much health and armor your opponent has before engaging into a fight + which weapons he has, based on that you can approach him the right way and from the right angle.. My apologies for the aggressive approach, but the lack of knowledge on your part regarding fps games was quite infuriating. Quake 1v1 is freaking amazing man I play it sometimes but it's hard as ######### | ||
swissman777
1106 Posts
On January 11 2016 04:16 egrimm wrote: Show nested quote + On January 10 2016 14:14 Seeker wrote: I loved HotS. LotV pisses me off. WoL was okay. I'm hoping one day I'll love LotV as much as I loved HotS. Same here. During whole 2015 I was hyped as f*ck for all sc2 tournaments, played couple of LANs with my friends, talked and thought a lot about the strategies but since the Blizzcon finals and transition to LotV I have trouble with finding #passion. I also hope that once the dust settles (especially after revolution in WCS system) I will get my passion back. Once the cheese builds are figured out and you've gotten better at defending them, I bet you'll get your passion back. | ||
ElMeanYo
United States1032 Posts
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Phredxor
New Zealand15076 Posts
Been playing on and off for like 16 years so i guess it's working :D | ||
Shuffleblade
Sweden1903 Posts
Because I love watching I often get an itch to play after watching, so I also get periods of intense gaming and then periods of only watching. | ||
SoleSteeler
Canada5448 Posts
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[PkF] Wire
France24227 Posts
On January 10 2016 20:32 Charoisaur wrote: Show nested quote + On January 10 2016 14:14 Seeker wrote: I loved HotS. LotV pisses me off. WoL was okay. I'm hoping one day I'll love LotV as much as I loved HotS. ^this Let's be fair, as much as I loved HotS, it was an extremely stale game at times, especially if you played P. PvT and PvP were extremely boring if you liked variety, you were pretty much forced to play some blink into colossi style in PvT and past the coinflippy early game, PvP was atrocious (though I had a lot of fun with Classic's style, incorporating a void ray squad to my colossi army). PvZ was a blast to play though (not much to watch once blink sentry styles got prevalent sadly). LotV has a lot of potential if you ask me, probably more than HotS due to the mineral change which I think will turn out to be a good move. The tweaks that need to be done are rather obvious (good maps, nerfing some units), and even in the current state I'm having a lot of fun. It's a very taxing game, and a bit of a blank page timings / bo wise, which I like. | ||
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KOtical
Germany451 Posts
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HugoBallzak
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wishr
Russian Federation262 Posts
2. No stupid teammates, ability to participate in tournaments without having a team. 3. Highest skill cap. 4. Definitely the best game to watch! 5. I grew up with SC:BW and WC3. 6. Very fast games compared to all other competitive scenes. 7. Training for WC4! | ||
Ctone23
United States1839 Posts
1v1 and team games are an added bonus sprinkled in between, there aren't any other games that keep me coming back quite like SC2. | ||
Legobiten
71 Posts
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feebas
Finland268 Posts
As much as I dislike the direction they went with void, I'll still be playing and watching for as long as I can. | ||
Isualin
Germany1903 Posts
I started playing again with Lotv. I still don't have a lot of fun but executing a plan perfectly gives a sense of success(a build order, reaper harass, marine drop etc) It feels like i am playing starbow or something though, every build is different from what i remember. I have severe ladder anxiety but my current goal is playing 4 games every single day. Even if i lose every single one of them i learn a lot. And to stay on topic, my reasons are: 1-) The sense of success by executing a plan perfectly/as well as possible 2-) The feeling of progression over a long time | ||
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HaN-
France1920 Posts
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Apmje
United Kingdom41 Posts
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mAnarch
United States36 Posts
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Nuclease
United States1049 Posts
On January 10 2016 07:36 Aocowns wrote: i like feeling pain and its either playing sc2 or cutting myself Basically this. There's something truly sick about the ladder of SC2, which is why it can never be a casual game. Seriously, though, I would play team games like Heroes of the Storm, but I hate team format. There's nothing that frustrates me more in competition than watching my team lose due to some jackass that can't work with a team/doesn't know the game. SC doesn't have that problem, although it can be more personally frustrating, because when you lose, it's all on you. | ||
GreenHealing
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Naracs_Duc
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wjat
385 Posts
On January 12 2016 02:23 GreenHealing wrote: Only reason I play this game is that this is only 1v1 game with actual esport and if you are good enough, you can earn good money playing it, and my goal is to become pro sc2 player. But I really hate the game. Do you hate the game when you're winning? | ||
GreenHealing
82 Posts
On January 12 2016 02:32 wjat wrote: Show nested quote + On January 12 2016 02:23 GreenHealing wrote: Only reason I play this game is that this is only 1v1 game with actual esport and if you are good enough, you can earn good money playing it, and my goal is to become pro sc2 player. But I really hate the game. Do you hate the game when you're winning? Yes, the game is way too stressfull and knowing that I only won because opponent was really bad. | ||
Legobiten
71 Posts
For me the game makes me use my brain in a way I don't normally use it in in everyday life (work, family, etc.) and I love that! Brain exercise in a unique and extremely challenging way. Pure fun. Even if I lose. | ||
Daimai
Sweden762 Posts
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TelecoM
United States10682 Posts
On January 10 2016 07:36 Aocowns wrote: i like feeling pain and its either playing sc2 or cutting myself lol | ||
Chernobyl
Brazil143 Posts
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Spyridon
United States997 Posts
On January 12 2016 02:15 Nuclease wrote: Show nested quote + On January 10 2016 07:36 Aocowns wrote: i like feeling pain and its either playing sc2 or cutting myself Basically this. There's something truly sick about the ladder of SC2, which is why it can never be a casual game. Seriously, though, I would play team games like Heroes of the Storm, but I hate team format. There's nothing that frustrates me more in competition than watching my team lose due to some jackass that can't work with a team/doesn't know the game. SC doesn't have that problem, although it can be more personally frustrating, because when you lose, it's all on you. Yeah, I prefer 1v1 games for that same reason. But SC2 doesn't do it for me anymore. Sadly I have not played for the last few weeks, do not plan to unless they change the economic curve from being so fast. It causes so many problems. 12 worker starts fine, minerals running out faster is fine... but the game basically STARTS with you beginning T2/T2.5 units in your initial build... That's retarded. There's so much less strategic decision making, and the economic curve empowers/highlights all of SC2's flaws (hard counters, air unit balance, and harassment has always been too little of an investment in SC2 and it's far worse than ever these days). I don't mind that the game is hard. I don't mind that the ladder design. I can deal with unit imbalanced - If it was strictly unit balance issues, I would put up with it until they fixed things up. But RTS games are built upon the economy, and economic issues cause problems in every single other aspect of the game, from scouting, to harass strength, to balance of to unit strength, to asymmetric macro design - it is ALL suffering right now. The game of SC2 has always been too volatile in these areas, and now it is even more volatile than ever. Yeah I do enjoy the increased action, I still enjoy actual combat and microing in battle with my units vs the enemies. But the strategic portion is SOO lacking now. Strategic gameplay is built entirely on having to invest time (resources) on difficult decisions on the fly, and deal with the repercussions of those decisions (as well as your enemies) and adapt as the game goes on. The less time you have to invest for the desired payload, the less strategic decision making/gameplay you have. So LotV is more in the direction of a micro battle, but considering the importance of macro, it's just a half-measure. LotV is basically half-assed implementation of a "micro battle" style game, combined with half-assed implementations of strategic gameplay. It does not cater to either style, and only caters to people who want micro battles as the result of hyperactive macro mechanics. I don't know when Blizzard decided "strategy = macro". But that's a false statement, and it really sucks that SC is about nothing but mechanics and micro now. I hope it changes, but that last glimmer of hope faded when they decided to rush the game for release. Since there's no RTS competition these days, the only way I could satisfy my 1v1 competitive cravings is to go back to fighting games. Ironically they are much more strategic than SC2 nowdays, since playing a fighting game competitively is basically non-stop mind games. So nowdays I play a mix of fighting games for my 1v1 competitive cravings, and team games with friends. Would love to add an RTS game to my main games again, but my hope for SC2 is basically gone. Blizzard has never been known for great games at vanilla release, but has built a reputation for releasing expansions/patches that turn mediocre games in to great ones. Hearthstone went from a game players didn't take serious at all to the #1-2 game on twitch, D3 had a horrid release but now actually is fun to play and has a huge amount of players login for each new season, WC3 and SC1's expansions completely turned them in to far better games.... Yet SC2 is on it's 3rd release and the problems are worse than ever....? It's seeming more and more true that SC2 is a game that Blizzard simply can not turn around... | ||
neptunusfisk
2286 Posts
The game is simple enough for me to care about understanding the rules, and deep enough to keep me interested. It is such an all-consuming experience to hardcore focus on something for 20 minutes straight, it just fascinates me so much how far removed you get from the outer world while playing. In contrast, when I play CSGO for fun with my friends, it is overall quite chill with some tense moments mixed in. SC2 is such a different beast in terms of concentration, and that's one reason I adore it. | ||
Pugfarmer
70 Posts
On January 12 2016 09:15 Spyridon wrote: Show nested quote + On January 12 2016 02:15 Nuclease wrote: On January 10 2016 07:36 Aocowns wrote: i like feeling pain and its either playing sc2 or cutting myself Basically this. There's something truly sick about the ladder of SC2, which is why it can never be a casual game. Seriously, though, I would play team games like Heroes of the Storm, but I hate team format. There's nothing that frustrates me more in competition than watching my team lose due to some jackass that can't work with a team/doesn't know the game. SC doesn't have that problem, although it can be more personally frustrating, because when you lose, it's all on you. Yeah, I prefer 1v1 games for that same reason. But SC2 doesn't do it for me anymore. Sadly I have not played for the last few weeks, do not plan to unless they change the economic curve from being so fast. It causes so many problems. 12 worker starts fine, minerals running out faster is fine... but the game basically STARTS with you beginning T2/T2.5 units in your initial build... That's retarded. There's so much less strategic decision making, and the economic curve empowers/highlights all of SC2's flaws (hard counters, air unit balance, and harassment has always been too little of an investment in SC2 and it's far worse than ever these days). I don't mind that the game is hard. I don't mind that the ladder design. I can deal with unit imbalanced - If it was strictly unit balance issues, I would put up with it until they fixed things up. But RTS games are built upon the economy, and economic issues cause problems in every single other aspect of the game, from scouting, to harass strength, to balance of to unit strength, to asymmetric macro design - it is ALL suffering right now. The game of SC2 has always been too volatile in these areas, and now it is even more volatile than ever. Yeah I do enjoy the increased action, I still enjoy actual combat and microing in battle with my units vs the enemies. But the strategic portion is SOO lacking now. Strategic gameplay is built entirely on having to invest time (resources) on difficult decisions on the fly, and deal with the repercussions of those decisions (as well as your enemies) and adapt as the game goes on. The less time you have to invest for the desired payload, the less strategic decision making/gameplay you have. So LotV is more in the direction of a micro battle, but considering the importance of macro, it's just a half-measure. LotV is basically half-assed implementation of a "micro battle" style game, combined with half-assed implementations of strategic gameplay. It does not cater to either style, and only caters to people who want micro battles as the result of hyperactive macro mechanics. I don't know when Blizzard decided "strategy = macro". But that's a false statement, and it really sucks that SC is about nothing but mechanics and micro now. I hope it changes, but that last glimmer of hope faded when they decided to rush the game for release. Since there's no RTS competition these days, the only way I could satisfy my 1v1 competitive cravings is to go back to fighting games. Ironically they are much more strategic than SC2 nowdays, since playing a fighting game competitively is basically non-stop mind games. So nowdays I play a mix of fighting games for my 1v1 competitive cravings, and team games with friends. Would love to add an RTS game to my main games again, but my hope for SC2 is basically gone. Blizzard has never been known for great games at vanilla release, but has built a reputation for releasing expansions/patches that turn mediocre games in to great ones. Hearthstone went from a game players didn't take serious at all to the #1-2 game on twitch, D3 had a horrid release but now actually is fun to play and has a huge amount of players login for each new season, WC3 and SC1's expansions completely turned them in to far better games.... Yet SC2 is on it's 3rd release and the problems are worse than ever....? It's seeming more and more true that SC2 is a game that Blizzard simply can not turn around... I think you missed the title. | ||
Supter
France382 Posts
It's all about what you want from a game. I find StarCraft to be both physically and emotionally demanding. I have played countless games, and I've had fun on them. LoL, Hearthstone, WoW and such. But not a single one has giving me more than enjoyment : enjoyment and a feeling of improvment. Even if it's only a video game. | ||
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