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sorry.(see previous page for a brilliant post.)
(My post is there as well.)
Community Feedback Update - January 8 - Page 9
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Cascade
Australia5405 Posts
sorry.(see previous page for a brilliant post.) (My post is there as well.) | ||
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Salteador Neo
Andorra5591 Posts
It's obvious that the game is too overwhelming for new players with the new economy. | ||
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tamino
France51 Posts
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Weltall
Italy83 Posts
PO nerf is ok PB nerf is ok Adepts -> remove +13 bonus vs light and make a 20 flat damage instead. This way they won't 2 shot marines/workers, they will still 2 shots lings, they will scale much better in late game. 20 flat is too much? then put it 15 but with increased attack speed, and resonating glaives gives +5 damage instead of increase attack speed. Lurkers -> make hive tech Ravagers -> increase bile cooldown+ give armored tag Game fixed | ||
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Hider
Denmark9447 Posts
they will still 2 shots lings, they will scale much better in late game. 20 flat is too much? The late game change is easy enough to fix though. Reasoning Glaves should just be a more expensive upgrade and take longer to research, and then you can increase the attack speed bonus to 60% or something like that. It really makes no sense that it costs 100/100 and is relatively fast to research as that makes it better for early midgame timings than later game viability. | ||
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Paukum
Norway60 Posts
And is it not already possible to change the game speed in custom games (or do I confuse sc1 and sc2?). In that case I would prefer they improve upon the channels where one can find other players wanting to play custom games on lower speeds, or that they made a separate "training ladder". | ||
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Big J
Austria16289 Posts
15 with increased attack speed and +5attack upgrade is probably very similar if you aim for similar dps. Some relations (zerglings) might be different, but for most relations it wouldn't matter too much. Don't know about more expensive upgrade, I don't think the upgrade is what is causing big problems. I don't think the units stats are what is causing problems. It's the places the adept reaches with psionic transfer and warpgates/prisms. | ||
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Heartland
Sweden24604 Posts
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Penev
28536 Posts
On January 09 2016 22:34 Big J wrote: 20 flat is too much. I tested it and the adept singlehandedly starts beating roach/ravager/hydra/ling compositions. Also turns the adept in a pretty good counter to the marauder and still counters marines. Do I need to mention warpgate allins with that? 15 with increased attack speed and +5attack upgrade is probably very similar if you aim for similar dps. Some relations (zerglings) might be different, but for most relations it wouldn't matter too much. Don't know about more expensive upgrade, I don't think the upgrade is what is causing big problems. I don't think the units stats are what is causing problems. It's the places the adept reaches with psionic transfer and warpgates/prisms. Agree. Blizzard should focus on the Warp Prism more to solve this but unfortunately no mention of that in this update when it was brought up many times by the community already. | ||
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GreenHealing
82 Posts
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purplenugget
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_fool
Netherlands684 Posts
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NBird
United States24 Posts
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Dangermousecatdog
United Kingdom7084 Posts
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A_needle_jog
Korea (South)699 Posts
On January 09 2016 14:51 playa wrote: Caveat: I mainly played NA. I used to show screenshots of top GM games on NA vs Zerg players. It would be max vs max. I would have all hotkeys being used and my opponent would have 0. Many players either only use the select all army hotkey or would only hotkey their queens. Select all then A-move allowed players, seriously, to reach number 1 GM. Ok I think I understand your point of view. Zerg players just do A-move attack without hotkeys after they press all army button. Maybe David Kim could make Zerg like bw again where you cannot control more units so zerg has harder time with management? Or what solution would you say is good way to go about it?  | ||
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Haukinger
Germany131 Posts
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A_needle_jog
Korea (South)699 Posts
On January 10 2016 00:49 Haukinger wrote: Reducing game speed is great, just not only for gold an below. Reduce to normal for everyone! It would be funny to see, but I think all pro players would protest! I finally have enough time to micro Infestors, Viper, Swarmhosts and Lurkers then  | ||
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Ctone23
United States1841 Posts
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Sissors
1395 Posts
On January 10 2016 01:07 Ctone23 wrote: Why not make unranked ladder for players with bronze to silver mmr play at a slighly lower game speed? I don't think Blizzard should slow down the ranked ladder, but I don't see an issue slowing down unranked a bit for the new players out there. Why? And at which speed is a ranked vs unranked match going to be played? | ||
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DeadByDawn
United Kingdom476 Posts
Obviously it got shelved as the rebalancing of units would have been a huge job (shame they never had a long beta period to try something like this  ).This would have been a better way of slowing down the game, both for players and spectators. Especially for casuals the fights in SC2 seem to be over in the blink of an eye and you are dependent on the analysis from the casters to understand what happened. | ||
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