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todespolka
Profile Joined November 2012
221 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-12-22 20:00:21
December 22 2015 19:40 GMT
#41
On December 23 2015 03:55 shid0x wrote:
This being said the crisis management can be easy.
I mean the event can still be offline and great, Ogaming has a big studio and can easily host the players and even do an HSC esque event that would be quite sick, budget wise don't tell me it isn't doable.
Also Millenium is in Paris, webedia has studio and money, don't tell me you can't have a partnership and broadcast it from there.
There's also the Meltdown which could be extremely sick, and tons of other small venues in Paris.
That is for SC2, because i KNOW people will come, the cs go community at ogaming is probably not that hardcore in the following.

As i understand it it will be lan in the studio , which is good and can be extremely good.

If its really full online ( no players in studio ) then it's a huge disappointment and non sense.


We have a hero in our middle. Why dont you organize a tournament of this caliber and quality for the sc2 scene. I am sure the community will be thankful. Also with your expertise we can only expect the best online event ever.

To o'gaming:
Nationwars has a brilliant concept. Its always fun and has a high quality. Its sad to here this. I was looking forward to this event.
But many people seem to miss the situation in paris. In a way Isis has won, paris lives in a prison. Not the prison which we all know from movies but a prison of fear and terror.
I wish I could do something to help but I can do nothing more than hope that the situation in paris will change soon and that people can visit events again.
Menace_ZhuGeLiang
Profile Blog Joined August 2015
15 Posts
December 22 2015 19:41 GMT
#42
I feel the pressure to up the entertainment value :S...
MorDka
Profile Joined October 2012
Poland543 Posts
December 22 2015 19:44 GMT
#43
Terrorists killing esports too so sad T.T
shid0x
Profile Joined July 2012
Korea (South)5014 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-12-22 19:48:21
December 22 2015 19:45 GMT
#44


I understand your frustration but wishful thinking. If you think you know better than them how a deal with Webedia could work (Millennium is owned by Webedia btw), how big the studios or the places are (I somewhat laughed a bit when you mentioned the Meltdown, I think cameras do not do a good job at showing how cramped the place actually is), and what the state of emergency entails regarding travel, security and whatnot, go buy a plane ticket to France and help them organize the mess. I sure don't have that arrogance and fully understand their call.


I actually i'm very curious on the issue personally since this is kind of my field of study ( MD in digital marketing and communication ) and i actually did work in france with startups from thefamily which had similar issues.

The fact that they are going full online like that is weird, i mean they didn't even have a plan b ?
I really feel that there would have been ways to save the furnitures with at least the sc2 event, even if the studio is too small i believe there is many ways to host an offline without outrageous cost (without spectators somehow HSC ), especially since they got a lot of equipment already in Paris.

It just feels really bizarre to me, this whole situation.


On December 23 2015 04:35 Boucot wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 23 2015 03:48 v_lm wrote:
Maybe the 2 games together wasn't such a great idea, maybe those 2 communities don't want to waste their time watching a game they don't care about.

Exactly why I didn't book.

The events are independent from each other.


Well see this is a problem.
If this guy and myself thought they were not then there was some miss communication and that may have been the case to a lot of other people too.


Oh and to the people criticizing my previous post screw yourself, i've never went like "FUCK THEM" or anything, i'm just curious about the whereabouts.


RIP MKP
NinjaToss
Profile Blog Joined October 2015
Austria1383 Posts
December 22 2015 19:54 GMT
#45
It's understandable that O'Gaming cancel it, but hopefully we can view it offline next year, I will be waiting :x
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JazVM
Profile Joined October 2012
Germany1196 Posts
December 22 2015 20:11 GMT
#46
note: this is my personal opinion. I don't think that the terror attacks are the main reason for the cancelation of the live event. I think it didn't work out as expected and they took the "easy" way out. I have no facts, this is just an opinion.
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Cazimirbzh
Profile Joined February 2014
334 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-12-22 20:39:05
December 22 2015 20:23 GMT
#47
On December 23 2015 03:40 oGoZenob wrote:
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On December 23 2015 03:24 Cazimirbzh wrote:
On December 23 2015 03:12 Clonester wrote:
Sad, but partly expected.


Indeed, tuesday and wednesday were bad days

yeah but it costs way less to book a venue like the olympia during the week. On the week-end, the price is twice as much

yes but monday, tuesday or thursday and friday(i'm guessing it's consider as week end) would have a lot better .

Are you sure that the price is always twice because on their website i checked the week after
01/19 to 01/20 JE PREFERE QU'ON RESTE AMIS cat1 58 € carréor 71 €
01/23 to 01/24 IGUDESMAN & JOO cat1 60 €(max)
i scrolled a bit and found a lot of show at 60 € during the week end

JazVM: It had an impact -40% in november but this number is big also because all school visits which required public transportation were canceled

lost_patrol
Profile Joined July 2015
16 Posts
December 22 2015 20:25 GMT
#48
Why not team up with TakeTV and have the finals in Germany?
miniskirt
Profile Joined December 2012
France487 Posts
December 22 2015 20:37 GMT
#49
On December 23 2015 05:23 Cazimirbzh wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 23 2015 03:40 oGoZenob wrote:
On December 23 2015 03:24 Cazimirbzh wrote:
On December 23 2015 03:12 Clonester wrote:
Sad, but partly expected.


Indeed, tuesday and wednesday were bad days

yeah but it costs way less to book a venue like the olympia during the week. On the week-end, the price is twice as much

yes but monday, tuesday or thursday and friday(i'm guessing it's consider as week end) would have a lot better .

Are you sure that the price is always twice because on their website i checked the week after
01/19 to 01/20 JE PREFERE QU'ON RESTE AMIS cat1 58 € carréor 71 €
01/23 to 01/24 IGUDESMAN & JOO cat1 60 €(max)
i scrolled a bit and found a lot of show at 60 € during the week end

you can't compare with other shows (most are much shorter than what was planned for NW)
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Cazimirbzh
Profile Joined February 2014
334 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-12-22 20:45:44
December 22 2015 20:44 GMT
#50
On December 23 2015 05:37 miniskirt wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 23 2015 05:23 Cazimirbzh wrote:
On December 23 2015 03:40 oGoZenob wrote:
On December 23 2015 03:24 Cazimirbzh wrote:
On December 23 2015 03:12 Clonester wrote:
Sad, but partly expected.


Indeed, tuesday and wednesday were bad days

yeah but it costs way less to book a venue like the olympia during the week. On the week-end, the price is twice as much

yes but monday, tuesday or thursday and friday(i'm guessing it's consider as week end) would have a lot better .

Are you sure that the price is always twice because on their website i checked the week after
01/19 to 01/20 JE PREFERE QU'ON RESTE AMIS cat1 58 € carréor 71 €
01/23 to 01/24 IGUDESMAN & JOO cat1 60 €(max)
i scrolled a bit and found a lot of show at 60 € during the week end

you can't compare with other shows (most are much shorter than what was planned for NW)

......i didnt compare it with others shows. This is about the price difference between during week and week end. The numbers are here to show that price doesnt seem to be always twice the week end compared to the rest of the week.
FueledUpAndReadyToGo
Profile Blog Joined March 2013
Netherlands30548 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-12-22 21:00:59
December 22 2015 20:46 GMT
#51
Wow this makes me very sad

I guess for NW:4 focus on a simple/cheap venue and put extra effort in production to make it just as nice as in a real theatre.

Were NW3 tickets much more expensive than Iron Squid?
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OtherWorld
Profile Blog Joined October 2013
France17333 Posts
December 22 2015 20:51 GMT
#52
So sad ):
But to look at the positive side, the production value of O'Gaming makes it so that an online finals will be better than many offline finals from other tournaments (:
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Poopi
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
France13021 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-12-22 21:10:27
December 22 2015 21:09 GMT
#53
It's a bit sad even for someone who would have watched online in the first place.
Yet I want to say thank you for this event (and the previous ones of course), be it online or at "L'Olympia" it is amazing for the viewer, I was even more hooked to starcraft 2 at the start by Pomf&Thud youtube videos, I started not watching it much but since LotV launch party I follow O'gaming a lot, thank you for still casting starcraft despite being the last French organisation to do so, I am sure it will still be awesome!
WriterMaru
SC2Towelie
Profile Joined July 2014
United States561 Posts
December 22 2015 21:32 GMT
#54
Literally fuck ISIS...
Don't forget to bring a towel! (Towelie.635)
Diabolique
Profile Joined June 2015
Czech Republic5118 Posts
December 22 2015 21:54 GMT
#55
Very sad for O'gaming, but I am sure, the majority of the community will be happy with it anyway, as it is a great tournament and O'gaming's contribution to the scene is absolutely awesome! Just please don't ban the Koreans! :-) I know, it would be an opportunity how to get Germany back into the tournament, but please, do not do it! :-)
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Diabolique
Profile Joined June 2015
Czech Republic5118 Posts
December 22 2015 22:15 GMT
#56
And do not worry, nobody will be upset about it. This is a problem of all big events in France currently. I heard that even the football EURO 2016 will be played online only because of security and safety reasons ...

User was temp banned for this post.
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y0su
Profile Blog Joined September 2011
Finland7871 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-12-22 22:37:01
December 22 2015 22:36 GMT
#57
Sad.
Understandable.
Looking forward to watching!
On December 23 2015 04:45 shid0x wrote:
Show nested quote +


I understand your frustration but wishful thinking. If you think you know better than them how a deal with Webedia could work (Millennium is owned by Webedia btw), how big the studios or the places are (I somewhat laughed a bit when you mentioned the Meltdown, I think cameras do not do a good job at showing how cramped the place actually is), and what the state of emergency entails regarding travel, security and whatnot, go buy a plane ticket to France and help them organize the mess. I sure don't have that arrogance and fully understand their call.


I actually i'm very curious on the issue personally since this is kind of my field of study ( MD in digital marketing and communication ) and i actually did work in france with startups from thefamily which had similar issues.

The fact that they are going full online like that is weird, i mean they didn't even have a plan b ?
I really feel that there would have been ways to save the furnitures with at least the sc2 event, even if the studio is too small i believe there is many ways to host an offline without outrageous cost (without spectators somehow HSC ), especially since they got a lot of equipment already in Paris.

It just feels really bizarre to me, this whole situation.


Show nested quote +
On December 23 2015 04:35 Boucot wrote:
On December 23 2015 03:48 v_lm wrote:
Maybe the 2 games together wasn't such a great idea, maybe those 2 communities don't want to waste their time watching a game they don't care about.

Exactly why I didn't book.

The events are independent from each other.


Well see this is a problem.
If this guy and myself thought they were not then there was some miss communication and that may have been the case to a lot of other people too.


Oh and to the people criticizing my previous post screw yourself, i've never went like "FUCK THEM" or anything, i'm just curious about the whereabouts.



Probably a lot more to do with the cost of transporting, housing and feeding the teams than the cost of the venue itself. I assume ticket costs were going to help with that. Without having the proper venue they can't sell tickets...
Philozovic
Profile Joined August 2012
France1677 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-12-22 22:40:12
December 22 2015 22:39 GMT
#58
Here goes my shot at seeing inno live
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Ragnarork
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
France9034 Posts
December 22 2015 22:50 GMT
#59
There was a high risk. It's somewhat not that much a surprise, but that's a very, very wise move, even if extremely sad.

Was really looking forward those two, especially the Red Dot Invitational T_T

Good luck!
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Cazimirbzh
Profile Joined February 2014
334 Posts
December 22 2015 23:19 GMT
#60
On December 23 2015 07:15 Diabolique wrote:
And do not worry, nobody will be upset about it. This is a problem of all big events in France currently. I heard that even the football EURO 2016 will be played online only because of security and safety reasons ...

User was temp banned for this post.

haha i hope not. I am currently in a city where they spent 400 M € in a stadium for 6 matchs^^
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