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On December 23 2015 22:51 Kafka777 wrote:
I think a number of basic errors were made with ticket sales. We do not know who will play in the semi's and final. There is perhaps a chance that more people would buy tickets if France would qualify for the event? The same applies to other nations. Perhaps quarterfinals should have been played earlier? Obviously people were waiting for quarterfinals to finish before buying tickets. Ticket prices are rather high and deter the possibility of buying them "just in case" Im not sure if presence of Korea actually improves ticket sales either. Organizing this at 2 pm on a Wednesday doesn't make things easier. Another matter is the "Donations toward prize pool" - then only 40% cut goes toward this goal and the rest goes towards what? Taxes?. This is a good way to reduce donations.. If you want more donations the goals have to be very clear. Like 30% goes for Casters, 30% for technical staff, 40% for players - that sounds much better.
That's sweet, NW took your TL virginity^^
Stop pretending canada has a chance XD
I tend to disagree about tickets price 50 € seems high but it's not considering that Olympia is a big theater. For NW2, they manage to do it through crowndfunding and a savior (40k €) for the Trinaon (cheap olympia?^^). 1 day set up, 1 day esport. This time, they tried to have more people coming with CS which was a really good idea (1day setup, 2 day esport).
In my opinion, that's where it was a bad move. My boss can agree to give me a dayoff on monday or friday but not in the middle of the week^^ and also not just at the beginning of the year. Just after Xmas holidays, you dont have a lot of money because you have to travel to see your family, buy gifts etc. We should compile a list of reasons why pple didnt buy tickets. It could help to improve organization for next time.
The presence of koreans improves ticket sales because they're good at sc2 (guarantee of good games) and it's really hard to see them if you dont have a lot of money to travel (exclusivity).
Donations are the main income of streamer. To shift some of their income toward the prize pool is a way to improve the cash players can make. It's a good thing.
ps: i heard pple from the entertainement industry in France asked the governement to help them. Maybe ogaming can ask too.
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Sad news... Will watch the online tournament anyway... Continue your amazing work!!
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Terrorists win 
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France9034 Posts
Regarding the CS part of that event, Cnd (which organize it) mentioned that there's also the fact that the context of the terror attack also make showing terrorists and counter-terrorists battling quite hard and inappropriate in a french venue, and that it played also a part in it.
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Damn you ISIS, damn you Kim Jon Un.
You ruining e-sports.
Goddamit, the "most real" experience i have with this mess is through SC2 news.
Good luck, hope everything works out in the end.
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On December 24 2015 02:13 Ragnarork wrote:
Regarding the CS part of that event, Cnd (which organize it) mentioned that there's also the fact that the context of the terror attack also make showing terrorists and counter-terrorists battling quite hard and inappropriate in a french venue, and that it played also a part in it.
For real ? ...i thought this nonsense was over a long time :S
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On December 23 2015 03:37 shid0x wrote:
I don't know what to think about this but somehow it doesn't feel right.
I don't know i always saw o'gaming filling everything up with their sc2 events, i can't really believe that you can't fill the olympia.
Maybe the 2 games together wasn't such a great idea, maybe those 2 communities don't want to waste their time watching a game they don't care about.
Nevertheless its still a sad thing but as long as its still offline its cool i guess.
If i got it right the players will be in the ogaming studio right ?
I think one of things you are missing is that with the recent events that happened in France there has been a drastic drop in the entertainment industry of people wanting to be in higher profile entertainment areas that are in a rather enclosed area.
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This statement is both hard to believe but also understandable. Thanks for the detailed information and best of luck in 2016! I will be watching the online finals for sure!
Thanks for everything guys!!!
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France9034 Posts
On December 24 2015 03:00 Cazimirbzh wrote:Show nested quote +On December 24 2015 02:13 Ragnarork wrote:
Regarding the CS part of that event, Cnd (which organize it) mentioned that there's also the fact that the context of the terror attack also make showing terrorists and counter-terrorists battling quite hard and inappropriate in a french venue, and that it played also a part in it. For real ? ...i thought this nonsense was over a long time :S
Not that early after the attack, and apparently not in the eye of the potential sponsors they were negotiating with.
This is understandable to some degree. As a gamer myself, I can clearly say I wasn't in the mood to see guns and shoot people in a game right after that. It kind of felt really bad. The game wasn't the issue though, the context was. Now, that lasted a few days, I think notably because none of my friends died there. Might be (and for some I know it has been) different if you've been affected that way by the events.
Then, when you take the larger picture, sponsors might get cautious with that and especially with their image.
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On December 25 2015 10:38 Ragnarork wrote:Show nested quote +On December 24 2015 03:00 Cazimirbzh wrote:On December 24 2015 02:13 Ragnarork wrote:
Regarding the CS part of that event, Cnd (which organize it) mentioned that there's also the fact that the context of the terror attack also make showing terrorists and counter-terrorists battling quite hard and inappropriate in a french venue, and that it played also a part in it. For real ? ...i thought this nonsense was over a long time :S Not that early after the attack, and apparently not in the eye of the potential sponsors they were negotiating with. This is understandable to some degree. As a gamer myself, I can clearly say I wasn't in the mood to see guns and shoot people in a game right after that. It kind of felt really bad. The game wasn't the issue though, the context was. Now, that lasted a few days, I think notably because none of my friends died there. Might be (and for some I know it has been) different if you've been affected that way by the events. Then, when you take the larger picture, sponsors might get cautious with that and especially with their image.
:S arf, indeed, it's always hard to convince sponsors when they have an idea in mind especially in esport.
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In my eyes, there are few obvious reasons, and price is not one of them as it is totally worth a whole day of great show.
1) it takes place on a week day, it is hard for french people to attend the show and even more for foreigners as they have to plan the trip (hotel night and such) so it is more than one day off work.
2) the CS event is probably not selling places at all. Too few good teams and Ogaming_CS is still growing and has no big fanbase yet.
3) The choice of a prestigious venue, only avalaible during the week and right after chritsmas and new years eve was just unrealistic. Worst time regarding money you can spend. Good dream but bad move in the end.
4) French crowd does not even know if France will qualify and was probably waiting to buy tickets.
As for me, I would have definitely gone if it was not on a week day and so close to new years eve
Will watch online anyway. I hope Ogaming will not loose too much money in the end as they have probably already paid the venue and few logistic stuff.
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I trust ogaming to make an awesome event, even online !
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Every french people are already shoken by the november terrorist episode. Even in towns far from Paris, cinemas,pubs and stores are not as frequented as usual. Time will cure us all.
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EPT
