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Ve5pa
Profile Joined December 2014
United Kingdom252 Posts
December 22 2015 18:39 GMT
#21
This really sucks for those that planned to attend. I will certainly be watching online and am really looking forward to it, especially those ceremonies of 'nothing but knee's' haha.

Keep up the good work O'gaming and thanks for putting Nation Wars on for us all to enjoy xD
yolteotl
Profile Joined October 2011
France76 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-12-22 18:42:44
December 22 2015 18:39 GMT
#22
Doing it a wednesday was a bad idea too.
I would have come from Bordeaux (700km away of Paris) if it has been set a week end, and some of my friends too, but a wednesday, no way...

I think the chosen day hurts more than the attentats, since it exclude all non-paris inhabitants (french and european)
rafaliusz
Profile Joined December 2009
Poland482 Posts
December 22 2015 18:39 GMT
#23
Waving that white flag.
oGoZenob
Profile Joined December 2011
France1503 Posts
December 22 2015 18:40 GMT
#24
On December 23 2015 03:24 Cazimirbzh wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 23 2015 03:12 Clonester wrote:
Sad, but partly expected.


Indeed, thusday and wednesday were bad days

yeah but it costs way less to book a venue like the olympia during the week. On the week-end, the price is twice as much
I like starcraft
Boucot
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
France15997 Posts
December 22 2015 18:40 GMT
#25
Can't say I'm surprised but sad anyway. I'm confident about NW4 or Iron Squid 3 (if it happens) to be an awesome offline event though !
Former SC2 writer for Millenium - twitter.com/Boucot
Tngabor
Profile Joined December 2013
Serbia60 Posts
December 22 2015 18:41 GMT
#26
Why can't they just move the whole thing to Netherlands or Germany even?
miniskirt
Profile Joined December 2012
France487 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-12-22 18:46:10
December 22 2015 18:43 GMT
#27
completely expected

previous events (in smaller venues) weren't really sold out even though they were cheaper and on weekends

also, the ogaming csgo community just barely started growing, the matches aren't attracting many, very few tickets were sold for the csgo event

On December 23 2015 03:40 oGoZenob wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 23 2015 03:24 Cazimirbzh wrote:
On December 23 2015 03:12 Clonester wrote:
Sad, but partly expected.


Indeed, thusday and wednesday were bad days

yeah but it costs way less to book a venue like the olympia during the week. On the week-end, the price is twice as much

these big venues are cheaper on weekdays for a reason, it's very hard to attract people
not the kind of things possible in esport in france for an indie studio right now
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Silvana
Profile Blog Joined September 2013
3713 Posts
December 22 2015 18:44 GMT
#28
On December 23 2015 03:04 Liquid`TLO wrote:
That's a real shame. Thanks for everything O'Gaming. I'm sure the event will be amazing regardless! Your spirit can't be broken. FIGHTING!


"Nonsense! There is no shame in defeat so long as the spirit is unconquered"
- Fenix

(Well I don't disagree with TLO but I wanted to plug that nice line by Fenix ^.^)
v_lm
Profile Joined September 2012
France202 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-12-22 18:48:56
December 22 2015 18:48 GMT
#29
Maybe the 2 games together wasn't such a great idea, maybe those 2 communities don't want to waste their time watching a game they don't care about.

Exactly why I didn't book.
A friend is someone you know well and still love.
Makro
Profile Joined March 2011
France16890 Posts
December 22 2015 18:49 GMT
#30
during the week when people were working, it was a bit too big imo

they did the right choice, i hope they are gonna be able to set something in a venue again
Matthew 5:10 "Blessed are those who are persecuted because of shitposting, for theirs is the kingdom of heaven".
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Amazonic
Profile Joined September 2010
Sweden239 Posts
December 22 2015 18:54 GMT
#31
Better to do the economically sensible thing so as to be able to continue the business rather than gamble with your resources. Good call O'Gaming, I'll watch it as eagerly online as I would have offline.
"Amazing how something so simple as a fat person and gravity can be so amusing. Classic!"
shid0x
Profile Joined July 2012
Korea (South)5014 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-12-22 18:56:16
December 22 2015 18:55 GMT
#32
This being said the crisis management can be easy.
I mean the event can still be offline and great, Ogaming has a big studio and can easily host the players and even do an HSC esque event that would be quite sick, budget wise don't tell me it isn't doable.
Also Millenium is in Paris, webedia has studio and money, don't tell me you can't have a partnership and broadcast it from there.
There's also the Meltdown which could be extremely sick, and tons of other small venues in Paris.
That is for SC2, because i KNOW people will come, the cs go community at ogaming is probably not that hardcore in the following.

As i understand it it will be lan in the studio , which is good and can be extremely good.

If its really full online ( no players in studio ) then it's a huge disappointment and non sense.
RIP MKP
Elentos
Profile Blog Joined February 2015
55555 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-12-22 19:09:23
December 22 2015 19:07 GMT
#33
On December 23 2015 03:55 shid0x wrote:
This being said the crisis management can be easy.
I mean the event can still be offline and great, Ogaming has a big studio and can easily host the players and even do an HSC esque event that would be quite sick, budget wise don't tell me it isn't doable.
Also Millenium is in Paris, webedia has studio and money, don't tell me you can't have a partnership and broadcast it from there.
There's also the Meltdown which could be extremely sick, and tons of other small venues in Paris.
That is for SC2, because i KNOW people will come, the cs go community at ogaming is probably not that hardcore in the following.

As i understand it it will be lan in the studio , which is good and can be extremely good.

If its really full online ( no players in studio ) then it's a huge disappointment and non sense.

It's gonna be full online with Koreans playing cross-server at 5 AM and random people lagging out.
Every 60 seconds in Africa, a minute passes.
PPN
Profile Joined August 2011
France248 Posts
December 22 2015 19:07 GMT
#34
On December 23 2015 03:55 shid0x wrote:
This being said the crisis management can be easy.
I mean the event can still be offline and great, Ogaming has a big studio and can easily host the players and even do an HSC esque event that would be quite sick, budget wise don't tell me it isn't doable.
Also Millenium is in Paris, webedia has studio and money, don't tell me you can't have a partnership and broadcast it from there.
There's also the Meltdown which could be extremely sick, and tons of other small venues in Paris.
That is for SC2, because i KNOW people will come, the cs go community at ogaming is probably not that hardcore in the following.

As i understand it it will be lan in the studio , which is good and can be extremely good.

If its really full online ( no players in studio ) then it's a huge disappointment and non sense.


I think you fail to understand how hard it is to organize it as planned in the first place and even harder to make a change of plan on such short notice.

Also you have to realize why there are not enough people in the first place. Mixing games, weekday etc. sure did not help but one of the bigger reasons is just that France has been in a state of emergency for more than a month. People obviously go out less. The government is almost plainly discouraging any kind of gathering/event. The mood and the context are just not there right now.
shid0x
Profile Joined July 2012
Korea (South)5014 Posts
December 22 2015 19:10 GMT
#35
On December 23 2015 04:07 PPN wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 23 2015 03:55 shid0x wrote:
This being said the crisis management can be easy.
I mean the event can still be offline and great, Ogaming has a big studio and can easily host the players and even do an HSC esque event that would be quite sick, budget wise don't tell me it isn't doable.
Also Millenium is in Paris, webedia has studio and money, don't tell me you can't have a partnership and broadcast it from there.
There's also the Meltdown which could be extremely sick, and tons of other small venues in Paris.
That is for SC2, because i KNOW people will come, the cs go community at ogaming is probably not that hardcore in the following.

As i understand it it will be lan in the studio , which is good and can be extremely good.

If its really full online ( no players in studio ) then it's a huge disappointment and non sense.


I think you fail to understand how hard it is to organize it as planned in the first place and even harder to make a change of plan on such short notice.

Also you have to realize why there are not enough people in the first place. Mixing games, weekday etc. sure did not help but one of the bigger reasons is just that France has been in a state of emergency for more than a month. People obviously go out less. The government is almost plainly discouraging any kind of gathering/event. The mood and the context are just not there right now.


In what way is it hard to make the players come at the date that was intended and make them play in the studio ?



RIP MKP
stuchiu
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
Fiddler's Green42661 Posts
December 22 2015 19:12 GMT
#36
unfortunate, but understandable.
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PPN
Profile Joined August 2011
France248 Posts
December 22 2015 19:28 GMT
#37
On December 23 2015 04:10 shid0x wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 23 2015 04:07 PPN wrote:
On December 23 2015 03:55 shid0x wrote:
This being said the crisis management can be easy.
I mean the event can still be offline and great, Ogaming has a big studio and can easily host the players and even do an HSC esque event that would be quite sick, budget wise don't tell me it isn't doable.
Also Millenium is in Paris, webedia has studio and money, don't tell me you can't have a partnership and broadcast it from there.
There's also the Meltdown which could be extremely sick, and tons of other small venues in Paris.
That is for SC2, because i KNOW people will come, the cs go community at ogaming is probably not that hardcore in the following.

As i understand it it will be lan in the studio , which is good and can be extremely good.

If its really full online ( no players in studio ) then it's a huge disappointment and non sense.


I think you fail to understand how hard it is to organize it as planned in the first place and even harder to make a change of plan on such short notice.

Also you have to realize why there are not enough people in the first place. Mixing games, weekday etc. sure did not help but one of the bigger reasons is just that France has been in a state of emergency for more than a month. People obviously go out less. The government is almost plainly discouraging any kind of gathering/event. The mood and the context are just not there right now.


In what way is it hard to make the players come at the date that was intended and make them play in the studio ?



I understand your frustration but wishful thinking. If you think you know better than them how a deal with Webedia could work (Millennium is owned by Webedia btw), how big the studios or the places are (I somewhat laughed a bit when you mentioned the Meltdown, I think cameras do not do a good job at showing how cramped the place actually is), and what the state of emergency entails regarding travel, security and whatnot, go buy a plane ticket to France and help them organize the mess. I sure don't have that arrogance and fully understand their call.
sharkie
Profile Blog Joined April 2012
Austria18512 Posts
December 22 2015 19:34 GMT
#38
Expensive and under the week was probably never going to work... :/
Boucot
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
France15997 Posts
December 22 2015 19:35 GMT
#39
On December 23 2015 03:48 v_lm wrote:
Show nested quote +
Maybe the 2 games together wasn't such a great idea, maybe those 2 communities don't want to waste their time watching a game they don't care about.

Exactly why I didn't book.

The events are independent from each other.
Former SC2 writer for Millenium - twitter.com/Boucot
happyGo
Profile Joined July 2011
United States20 Posts
December 22 2015 19:37 GMT
#40
On December 23 2015 03:41 Tngabor wrote:
Why can't they just move the whole thing to Netherlands or Germany even?


For several reasons:
1) It takes an incredible amount of time to organize something like this - you can't just shift locations with 2 weeks notice.
2) All their connections + contacts, etc. were in Paris from previous events, not to mention language barriers.
3) Plus, in general for events, every time you move, you lose people/sign-ups, and they already had too few to host an event in Paris.

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