Starcraft 2 is a 1v1 game. And because of that it becomes natural for the stories, narratives and attention to generally be focused on the champions of tournaments, the players that can climb to the top of the scene and lift the trophy over the rest of his peers. This article seeks to rectify that. Team leagues have been a part of SC2 since its inception and have been the breeding grounds for the majority of SC2 players. Originally, this article started off as a power rank of the greatest SC2 team league players of all time, but the more research I did, the clearer it was that such a ranking was impossible. The formats, player pools, competition level and timelines made it impossible to create a coherent framework for a unified ranking.
For instance, take Proleague. No one can deny that it is by far the hardest and best team league in SC2’s history. But even within Proleague itself, there are inconsistencies. The 2012-2013 format had a Bo7 SPL format, whereas future iterations had Bo5 round robins with alternating all-kill format in the round playoffs. The former had far more games over its year-long history, but the latter had more prestige and arguably more pressure as there were way more fans in attendance. This doesn’t even go into the varying GSTL formats which ranged from 8 team single bracket elimination to double bracket round robins in either Bo7 all-kill or Bo9 all-kill formats. And while Proleague features more games, and thus should arguably be harder, it also means that players' scores are padded. It doesn’t matter how many times Prime plays against SKT, KT, CJ or JA; they will always lose. At the same time the team league formats before SPL generally kicked out all of the weaker teams because of the much faster format, meaning aces for those teams got fewer chances to pad their stat sheets. At the same time though, ace players don’t need to super hard carry their teams in SPL format because they can only be fielded twice per match (once in the roster, once as ace) whereas in all-kill format, it was possible to get 4 or 5 kills in a single outing.
Given all of that however, I picked out the best team league players across all five years based on their overall records, importance to their teams, all-kills and ace wins, and playoff performances. In particular, three players stood out above the rest when it came to team league achievements in the last five years, and they will be explored in the last section of these team league articles.
The Great Team League Players
sOs, The Million Dollar Man
In terms of pure numbers put on the board, sOs has been the most consistent player since Proleague's inception in SC2. He played on Woongjin Stars until they disbanded before being signed by Jin Air. His overall records were 32-15, 26-18 and 25-16. However, you have to consider the numbers in the context of his teams and his role in the team. Woongjin Stars was probably the strangest team that ever existed in Proleague. They had two really strong players in sOs and Soulkey but neither were actually aces in the traditional sense. Their job was usually to secure the first 1-2 games, at which point the Woongjin Stars backline would clean up the series within the next 4 games. This was helped by Ryu Won, who often gave his players favorable matchups or at least a chance at victory. In the Woongjin Stars' one year in Proleague, they were only ever forced to play an ace match 5 times out of 42 total Proleague matches. While sOs was an important piece in the Stars lineup, the overall team depth and coaching was what made that such a dominant team.
His time on Jin Air has been different. For all of 2014, he and Maru were the two aces of the team. The problem with sOs was that when it came to ace matches, he failed more than he won, with a 1-4 record during that year. However, his playoff performance was strong, as he got a triple kill against Samsung in Round 3. 2015 SPL was his best showing as he put up the numbers during the regular rounds, but also carried the team with two all kills against CJ and KT, taking the most wins for JA in the playoffs against nearly every team they went up against.
SPL 2013: 32-15 | 1-0 in ace matches
SPL 2014: 25-13 | 1-4 in ace matches
3x Kill Samsung: Shine, Stork, RorO
SPL 2015: 27-17 | 0-1 in ace matches
AK CJ: herO, RagnaroK, ByuL, Bbyong
Reverse AK KT: Flash, TY, Zest, Stats
GuMiho, The Specialist
Among all the players on this list, GuMiho is an exceptional case. Every other player on this list has won multiple championships, and has at one point or another been considered one of the Top 3 players in their race, if not the world, for extended periods of time. It makes sense that the best team league players generally also happen to be some of the best individual league players. GuMiho is the exception. Along with Leenock as his co-ace and Choya as coach, the three of them would create one the most successful GSTL teams of all time with 2 victories and a Ro4 in the most competitive era of GSTL along with its best formats.
What makes GuMiho an even weirder case is that his team didn’t revolve around him, but more around Leenock and coach Choya’s great ability to counter pick opponents with surprising and effective snipers. His overall records in the GSTL were 9-3 and 6-3, and in Proleague it was 9-3 and 5-3. However, the way he came about those stats is what’s interesting. On CJ, he was never used as a stable core of the lineup despite his overall strong record (and ability to beat the best player of 2014 after a booth was dropped on his head).
In contrast, on teams led by Choya, GuMiho often clutched out the most important matches for the team, all-killing Slayers 5-0 in the GSTL Finals and triple killing MVP in the second GSTL finals. In SPL he has gone 1-1 in ace matches, but due to the lack of skill and depth of MVP compared to other teams, they weren’t able to get much further. If there were ever a case where a player seemed to get exponentially better when he was in team leagues compared to his usual skill, GuMiho was that player.
The Rising herO
Among all of the aces in SPL, herO has had the most linear progression of results. Which is really interesting when you consider that for a majority of players, results rarely come in a constant slope. They come in waves, there are ups and downs, but not so in herO’s case. Just look at his record in Proleague for the last three years:
SPL 2013: 28-21 | 2-4 in ace matches
SPL 2014: 26-18 | 5-4 in ace matches
SPL 2015: 25-16 | 2-3 in ace matches
In the first year of SPL, herO wasn’t even the biggest contributing player on his team (It was Hydra). The year after that, he became the clear ace of his team (going 5-4 in ace matches for SPL 2014). By the third year of SPL, CJ had a new 2nd man in ByuL and Bbyong was still reliable so it didn’t get to ace matches quite as often. An interesting player when you notice that his results mirror his own individual league performances unlike players such as TY or Solar.
God in his Domain
In the first few years of play, no matter how many times he disappointed his fans, no matter how many times the hype trains crashed, Flash was always able to deliver in Proleague. In many ways, his 2013 and 2014 were actually fairly similar. Flash would carry his team while Zest and TY would put on really good performances to ensure their playoff spots. The biggest blot of his career however was his 2015 season, where he performed abysmally for the entirety of the year until his triple kill in the playoffs at the last second. A very dramatic decline, but still one of the better team league players despite his 2015 season.
SPL 2013: 44-21 | 2-4 in ace matches
SPL 2014: 23-16 | 3-2 in ace matches
SPL 2015: 14-18 | no ace matches
The Vanguard of KeSPA
The first player that made it big after the KeSPA switch was Rain. It wasn’t surprising as he was already a rising star in the BW scene and was picked to be a big future prospect. While that potential never had time to be fulfilled in BW, it seemed to have transferred over perfectly in SC2 as he became one of the biggest protoss players in 2012. He was instrumental in the creation of what we now know as the PvP matchup and became SKT’s first new star in their SC2 squad. While his run in Proleague was only 2 years, it was a very strong 2 years. Rain is also the only player to be worth 11 points in an FPL round (2013) in history (both Maru and Flash have reached 10).
PL 2013: 36-22 | 3-3 in ace matches
PL 2014: 21-10 | 4-1 in ace matches
The Man from Busan
DRG was a strange person to pin down when it came to team leagues, particularly because of the way MVP used team leagues. He was initially used as an ace for the team in the early GSTLs and had a triple kill against the now defunct team of oGs. He became MMA’s one true rival in both team leagues and individual leagues, and hard carried his team in the first official GSTL Season 1 where he 3K’d oGs, 3K’d SlayerS and AK’d Prime. And at that point, he was almost never used again except in ace match situations. Much like Incredible Miracle, team MVP used team leagues mostly to foster the growth of their other team members. Unlike IM however, they were incredibly successful while fostering that growth meaning that DRG rarely got to come out for team leagues since. The next time we saw him was in his two seasons of Proleague, where he did okay in 2014 (bar the miraculous MVP run) and really well in 2015. Still one of the great team league players in SC2, but hard to pin down because of the way his team rarely used him.
GSTL 2011 May: 5-1
3K oGs: Nada, SuperNova, MC
GSTL 2011 Season 1: 13-2
3K oGs: Nada, HerO, Cezanne
3K SlayerS: BoxeR, GanZi, MMA
AK Prime: MKP, Anypro, B4, Polt
Playoffs 3K IM: Happy, YongHwa, Losira
SPL 2014: 10-14
SPL 2015: 9-3
The Boy Wonder
Despite already having a huge player for Proleague in sOs, I contend that the biggest pickup Jin Air ever made was actually Maru. In two seasons of play he ended his 2014 season as the player with the most wins, and his 2015 season as the player with the second most wins. He has been a consistent ace player for Jin Air and has often gone big for them no matter how well or poorly the rest of his team fared. Not only did he routinely put up the wins in round robin play, but he almost always came big in every playoffs he was a part of. Among all the players on this list, he comes the closest to joining the pantheon of Greatest Team League Players to have ever played SC2.
SPL 2014: 30-15 | 4-3 in ace matches
3K MVP: Billowy, DRG, TAiLS
3K CJ: Bunny, Hydra, herO
3K KT: Flash, Sleep, TY
SPL 2015: 27-16 | 4-3 in ace matches
3K KT: Zest, Life, Stats
AK KT: Zest, Life, Stats, Flash
The Greatest Team League Players of All Time
While I was unable to rank any of the team league players in any kind of coherent Power Ranking, there were three players who stood above the rest when it came to team league results.
Mr. Team League
MMA made it on my list as one of the greatest players of all time. Yet there is an entire other side of MMA’s story that has nothing to do with his individual results, and that is the steadily amazing and strong performances he’s put on in nearly every team league he has ever entered. In many ways, the team league has been home field for MMA. It is the place where he first rose to become a huge name in the scene. It is the place where he recovered from his slump after leaving Korea. It is the place that has become almost synonymous with his name. While he doesn’t have the incredible heights that INnoVation or TaeJa had in contrast, his work has been very consistent and he was a major part of how both SlayerS and Acer reached and won so many team league finals.
GSTL 2011 March: 5-1
GSTL 2011 May: 3-0
GSTL 2013 Season 2: 5-2
ATC 1: 31-14
ATC 2: 17-3
ATC 3: 16-10
Total Titles: 6
The Super Ace
In terms of pure results, no one tops INnoVation in team leagues. He was on three different teams, entering 5 team leagues—2 ATCs, 1 GSTL and 2 Proleagues. He won them all. The only thing that doesn’t make him the default best team league player of all time is that he was also on really strong teams for the majority of those runs, barring his time on STX, where he really hard carried. In his GSTL run, he was with Axiom—a team that had just come third the season before without his or MMA’s help. In the 2 ATCs he shared ace duties with MMA, and while he put on more numbers in the regular season, MMA pulled really heavy weight in those team leagues as well. Finally his latest Proleague title came with SKT where he wasn’t even the biggest contributor on his team (he was second to soO). Even more insane was that the next three players of SKT were Dark, Classic and Dream with records of 17-12, 15-8 and 12-6 respectively. Yes, he was an important part of SKT, but SKT ran 5 deep in a league that requires only 4 player slots.
Even in those circumstances, he is still one of, if not the greatest, Team League player SC2 has ever produced and has always been one of the core players as to whether or not a team wins the league.
ATC 2: 20-7
ATC 3: 38-8
GSTL 2013 S2: 12-2
SPL 2013: 44-20 | 3-1 in ace matches
PL 2015:18-7 | 1-0 in ace matches
Total Titles: 5
The Super Hard Carry
TaeJa is again an anomaly. Unlike the other two players, he does not even have a team league title to his name. His biggest and majority claim to fame however was his IPL TAC 3 run. To understand the magnitude of the run, I will Power Rank the strength of the teams before the event started:
IM
StarTale
Prime
MVP
SlayerS
FXO
TSL
NSHS
Team Liquid
Team Liquid were the 9th best team in the league. He took a 9th place team and carried them all the way to 2nd place. Yes, he had some assistance from HerO and others, but Taeja almost single-handedly enabled this entire run against 8 of the best Korean teams in the world. Here are the results he had to pull off to make this happen:
Prime AK: Annyeong, B4, Creator, Maru, MKP
MVP 2K: TAiLS, Vampire
ST 4K: Life, Curious, Squirtle, Bomber
SlayerS 4K: Genius, CoCa, Min, Puzzle
IM AK: Seed, YongHwa, Losira, NesTea, YoDa
IM 2K: First, YongHwa
That is the single hardest run anyone has ever had to do in a team league in SC2. No run even comes comparably close. To put it into modern day terms, it's as if Proleague switched to all-kill Bo9 format, INnoVation switched teams to Prime, then proceeded to all-kill Samsung, ST-Yoe, CJ, Jin Air, KT, and SKT 1.5 times. That was the relative difficulty that Taeja had to overcome with his run.
Also he did well in some ATCs, but really all of Taeja’s greatness in team leagues comes from that single run alone.
To put it into modern day terms, it's as if Proleague switched to all-kill Bo9 format, INnoVation switched teams to Prime, then proceeded to all-kill Samsung, ST-Yoe, CJ, Jin Air, KT, and SKT 1.5 times. That was the relative difficulty that Taeja had to overcome with his run.
Gave me a good hardy laugh even though prime does not exist anymore.
To put it into modern day terms, it's as if Proleague switched to all-kill Bo9 format, INnoVation switched teams to Prime, then proceeded to all-kill Samsung, ST-Yoe, CJ, Jin Air, KT, and SKT 1.5 times. That was the relative difficulty that Taeja had to overcome with his run.
Gave me a good hardy laugh even though prime does not exist anymore.
I have such a love hate relationship with these articles because the story of DRG being "great" not "greatest" seems to be a very common theme. I am honestly surprised MMA made top 3, he is obv great, but when I think team league, im much more likely to think of even Yonghwa
On December 10 2015 13:49 Shana wrote: Ah yes Taeja, that kid won so much on WoL right? Whatever happened to him during HotS till now since I barely read his name anymore on news.
On December 10 2015 14:18 ZigguratOfUr wrote: Taeja best team league player of all time off a single performance. It was one hell of a performance but still. Liquid advantage.
i'm not sure whether this list is in order. i think it isn't but i dunno.
it was definitely one of the greatest performances in the history of sc2. easily top 5 performances ever. but yeah he wouldn't be my consensus #1.
On December 10 2015 14:18 ZigguratOfUr wrote: Taeja best team league player of all time off a single performance. It was one hell of a performance but still. Liquid advantage.
Hey we all love our Taeja is the best narrative which is set up anywhere you look at for achievements which aren't really comparable at all with the truly great ones. IPL TAC, lol.
The comparison to allkilling all the proleague teams, cmon man you are better than that stuchiu -.-
It is time that proleague starts again btw, we all know it's the most exciting sc2 league there is.
On December 10 2015 14:18 ZigguratOfUr wrote: Taeja best team league player of all time off a single performance. It was one hell of a performance but still. Liquid advantage.
Hey we all love our Taeja is the best narrative which is set up anywhere you look at for achievements which aren't really comparable at all with the truly great ones. IPL TAC, lol.
The comparison to allkilling all the proleague teams, cmon man you are better than that stuchiu -.-
It is time that proleague starts again btw, we all know it's the most exciting sc2 league there is.
you always find a way to disregard taejas achievements do you? also there were all the top teams of the world so it is comparable to proleague
On December 10 2015 13:04 Cricketer12 wrote: I have such a love hate relationship with these articles because the story of DRG being "great" not "greatest" seems to be a very common theme. I am honestly surprised MMA made top 3, he is obv great, but when I think team league, im much more likely to think of even Yonghwa
MMA will always be regarded as THE clutchest teamleague player of the WoL era. Yonghwa? He had his all-kills but even then he was never that Ace player that won his team a GSTL title. DRG had his moments, definitely. Unfortunately, he lost to MMA too many times with the championship on the line to be considered the greatest .
Thank you for the million dollar man, I missed his mentioning anywhere for a long time ... and I was following him in season 3 / 2015 when he was definitely not the advantage for JAGW ... A pity, he did not beat Innovation in the final and in the final ace match as he would end the season finals with 10-0 score :-) At that time, BlizzCon was set ... and when Life sent home Inno, there was no force in the way ...
MMA vs DRG had so much hype during the GSTL peak. That was a lot of fun, truly.
On Taeja's IPL TAC run, I read an article some years ago splitting out players, in professional sports, that produced Hall of Fame careers and "Pantheon" performances. The discussion revolving around players that reach a completely other level for a period of time. (I'm pretty sure it was about pitchers in the post-season in MLB baseball. Which is why it makes sense.)
Taeja just did things that simply aren't going to be repeated. He will always be the one true master in the "Low prep" events. Which is what makes him an all-time great, even if he never did win a GSL.
To put it into modern day terms, it's as if Proleague switched to all-kill Bo9 format, INnoVation switched teams to Prime, then proceeded to all-kill Samsung, ST-Yoe, CJ, Jin Air, KT, and SKT 1.5 times. That was the relative difficulty that Taeja had to overcome with his run.
...this made me laugh and gave me nerdchills at the same time: when he was in shape, TaeJa was a monster!
Wow... I have seen much fanboyism here but this is simply too much. Just stop it with the Taeja bias already its getting old. And really hurts this site in general. These kind of articles simply cant be taken seriosly. Its a Shame...
Wasn't Taeja's IPL TAC run made easier thanks to korean teams playing generally from different server (IIRC most of the games were played online)? Playoffs were offline. Still impressive but Proleague is always offline.
Taeja. Witnessing that finals against IM on stream was so amazing, one of the rare times I was on the edge of my seat watching this. And even when it was all over, I felt so damn happy with how close he made it. Taeja was a monster this summer.
I like how the part about Taeja completely leaves out the EG-TL Proleague disaster where his winrate was below 50%. I mean, for Flash, half the text is about the worst Proleague season of his career. Taeja's worst isn't even mentioned in any shape or form, even though it was all offline in contrast to ATC.
that taeja run was hilarious (TL_LiquidSucksBallsWithoutMe nevar forget) but come on, Innvoation is the easy pick for greatest. consistently great over a long period of time, and he literally won every team league he's ever entered. no contest.
On December 10 2015 20:19 negativedge wrote: that taeja run was hilarious (TL_LiquidSucksBallsWithoutMe nevar forget) but come on, Innvoation is the easy pick for greatest. consistently great over a long period of time, and he literally won every team league he's ever entered. no contest.
On December 10 2015 20:19 negativedge wrote: that taeja run was hilarious (TL_LiquidSucksBallsWithoutMe nevar forget) but come on, Innvoation is the easy pick for greatest. consistently great over a long period of time, and he literally won every team league he's ever entered. no contest.
On December 10 2015 18:40 Ragnarork wrote: Taeja. Witnessing that finals against IM on stream was so amazing, one of the rare times I was on the edge of my seat watching this. And even when it was all over, I felt so damn happy with how close he made it. Taeja was a monster this summer.
Yeah Taeja single-handedly saved an otherwise awful event. Guy was like fucking Majin Buu, just wouldn't die.
On December 10 2015 14:18 ZigguratOfUr wrote: Taeja best team league player of all time off a single performance. It was one hell of a performance but still. Liquid advantage.
Hey we all love our Taeja is the best narrative which is set up anywhere you look at for achievements which aren't really comparable at all with the truly great ones. IPL TAC, lol.
The comparison to allkilling all the proleague teams, cmon man you are better than that stuchiu -.-
It is time that proleague starts again btw, we all know it's the most exciting sc2 league there is.
you always find a way to disregard taejas achievements do you? also there were all the top teams of the world so it is comparable to proleague
Hey it's not my fault that Taeja gets overhyped all the time I don't even wanna complain because i really like the articles and that stuchiu takes the time to write these, it's a great way to remember and revisit all of these events/moments, but yes anytime Taeja is mentioned i am here to make fun of him a bit. "all these premier titles" Nobody ever mentions that there were quite a few uncompetetive ones in there. (just an example) But yeah i doubt i can change the general view on Taeja, it's pretty much a lost cause
On December 10 2015 21:44 Ej_ wrote: INnoVation > Taeja just for the Frost game vs SuperNova
Do you mean the whirlwind map?
nope, before the Whirlwind super ace they played a game on Frost where INnoVation was fucking dead in what had been a complete mech mirror with no way to come back. Then he suddenly turned the game around and snatched the GSTL championship from AZUBU and, after that, he finished off heartbroken SuNo on Whirlwind.
On December 10 2015 18:40 Ragnarork wrote: Taeja. Witnessing that finals against IM on stream was so amazing, one of the rare times I was on the edge of my seat watching this. And even when it was all over, I felt so damn happy with how close he made it. Taeja was a monster this summer.
Yeah Taeja single-handedly saved an otherwise awful event. Guy was like fucking Majin Buu, just wouldn't die.
You mean until Seed pulled Goku with Dragonball-based power restoration with Spirit Bomb to barely win.
What a joke article. Doesn't even mention that had herO had the most wins in Proleague 2 years in a row, or that he's the only player to get 20 wins in Proleague in back to back years..
On December 11 2015 00:27 BlackZetsu wrote: What a joke article. Doesn't even mention that had herO had the most wins in Proleague 2 years in a row, or that he's the only player to get 20 wins in Proleague in back to back years..
Just because the article doesn't mention every detail about your favorite player doesn't mean it's a joke.
Actually, pretty much every player on this list would deserve their own seperate article about their team league career (and a few more that aren't even mentioned here). And for herO that would include his inability to deliver in all-kill format.
On December 11 2015 00:27 BlackZetsu wrote: What a joke article. Doesn't even mention that had herO had the most wins in Proleague 2 years in a row, or that he's the only player to get 20 wins in Proleague in back to back years..
On December 10 2015 18:05 nimdil wrote: Wasn't Taeja's IPL TAC run made easier thanks to korean teams playing generally from different server (IIRC most of the games were played online)? Playoffs were offline. Still impressive but Proleague is always offline.
Right it was an online event (though Taeja would have been from Korea too as Stichui points out).
Normally these types of articles put offline events on a pedestal so it's weird to see how much weight IPL TAC is being given here especially since Taeja has mostly sucked in every other teamleague he's played in (true he got an all-kill with Slayers to burst on the scene).
On December 11 2015 00:27 BlackZetsu wrote: What a joke article. Doesn't even mention that had herO had the most wins in Proleague 2 years in a row, or that he's the only player to get 20 wins in Proleague in back to back years..
This post is actually wrong in every single way (well done on that little achievement!)
herO actually lead the league in wins in neither 2014 nor 2015! Maru beat him by four wins in 2014 and he was topped by Rogue, sOs, Maru, and Zest in 2015.
Now quick thinkers in the audience may have already realized that what I just said makes Maru another player to get 20 wins in back to back years (30 and 27 respectively) therefore proving the second part of your statement to be false, but as the great Billy Mays would have said, "But wait, there's more!" sOs and Zest also pulled off the back to back 20 win splits. In terms of wins over the past two years, herO is third as it goes
Maru 57 sOs 52 herO 51 Zest 48
In terms of win % herO is actually fourth on this list of players who won 20 in back to back years. (Rounded to the nearest hundredth) It goes
sOs 65% Maru 61.96% Zest 60.76% herO 60%
So you see while herO is undoubtedly a great team league player and one of the best playing today, he is not THE best and frankly the fact that he was mentioned here while someone like Zest was left out should be enough to make you happy.
On December 11 2015 23:20 ZertoN wrote: how can anyome seriously be so biased that they pick taeja over innovation as the greatest team league player of all time?
It's not Taeja > Inno, he didn't bother ranking the top 3.
On December 12 2015 06:31 Bagration wrote: Good recap - agree with the top 3. Taeja did win a GSTL or two while on Slayers right?
Wasn't on Slayers for their first win I believe.
IIRC his debut was in the second GSTL they won (when he all-killed Zenex). Went 0-1 as the starter next match (cuz how can you not start someone who all-killed?) then wasn't fielded in the finals.
I forgot how short GSTL's were, only 3 rounds, which does make his contribution more significant than I originally thought.
Not a fan of leaving out PL stats to reinforce Taeja & MMA's "Greatest" narratives when you include them for DRG and other "Great" players who played over multiple eras.
On December 11 2015 23:20 ZertoN wrote: how can anyome seriously be so biased that they pick taeja over innovation as the greatest team league player of all time?
It's not Taeja > Inno, he didn't bother ranking the top 3.
The list is very clearly not numbered so I dunno why people assume it's in order
I know he disappeared and everyone forgot about him, but MKP should get an honorable mention, he was an absolute monster back in the old school GSTL days
On December 12 2015 14:58 Shyft wrote: I know he disappeared and everyone forgot about him, but MKP should get an honorable mention, he was an absolute monster back in the old school GSTL days
Some people are still upset at the events of April 8, 2012.
On December 11 2015 23:20 ZertoN wrote: how can anyome seriously be so biased that they pick taeja over innovation as the greatest team league player of all time?
It's not Taeja > Inno, he didn't bother ranking the top 3.
Probably be something like Inno -> MMA -> Taeja
More like
Inno >>>>> who fucking cares who is second ?? Inno is going to win no matter what
TaeJa vs YongHwa on Antiga was stupidly good. What a performance he achieved. Unfortunately IPL TAC 3 still remains as one of the most embarrassing tournaments downtime-wise.
nice to see Flash at least get a mention for being such a rock for KT until 2015 where he really struggled for too long of a period (what was it, he started 0-6 or 0-7 in the year? he bounced back in a way, but ultimately his overall record was very poor for the year considering the standards he had previously set). But still deserves respect for what he did for KT in '13 and '14.
and yes, for me, it has to be Inno, Maru and sOs who have to have been the standout most consistent performers in PL in the last couple years (although yes, Maru faded hard late in 2015, shame about the wrists ). Innovation for the last couple years especially, and dang did he carry in 2015, even though he had an incredible supporting cast around him just in case he'd occasionally falter (which he didn't).
herO, soO and Zest deserve shout-outs (herO especially considering how much extra pressure was on him considering his team depth) for being pretty great performers as well, despite both the protosses having some pretty bad periods of poor form/slump on a couple of occasions.
one final thing, where the hell is Life on these lists? you'd think such an accomplished and decorated individual league player would put up better results in team leagues, more akin to someone like Innovation, but he simply hasn't, not even close. one wonders.
we need to bring back more team leagues. I miss them. speaking of teaja wasn't he in some showmatch recently? I mean I think he got swept but I remember him playing.
I'd make some comment about virus but I think the entirity of his team league career was a random 3 kill. maybe some stuff back when he first showed up but I don't think he was that successful then
On December 11 2015 00:27 BlackZetsu wrote: What a joke article. Doesn't even mention that had herO had the most wins in Proleague 2 years in a row, or that he's the only player to get 20 wins in Proleague in back to back years..
This post is actually wrong in every single way (well done on that little achievement!)
herO actually lead the league in wins in neither 2014 nor 2015! Maru beat him by four wins in 2014 and he was topped by Rogue, sOs, Maru, and Zest in 2015.
Now quick thinkers in the audience may have already realized that what I just said makes Maru another player to get 20 wins in back to back years (30 and 27 respectively) therefore proving the second part of your statement to be false, but as the great Billy Mays would have said, "But wait, there's more!" sOs and Zest also pulled off the back to back 20 win splits. In terms of wins over the past two years, herO is third as it goes
Maru 57 sOs 52 herO 51 Zest 48
In terms of win % herO is actually fourth on this list of players who won 20 in back to back years. (Rounded to the nearest hundredth) It goes
sOs 65% Maru 61.96% Zest 60.76% herO 60%
So you see while herO is undoubtedly a great team league player and one of the best playing today, he is not THE best and frankly the fact that he was mentioned here while someone like Zest was left out should be enough to make you happy.
Regular season wins. herO even won an award for having the most wins in Proleague in back to back years at the SPL finals this year. I guess you didn't see that.
I have questions about this statement of sOs part of the article:
However, his playoff performance was strong, as he got a triple kill against Samsung in Round 3. 2015 SPL was his best showing as he put up the numbers during the regular rounds, but also carried the team with two all kills against CJ and KT, taking the most wins for JA in the playoffs against nearly every team they went up against.
I went deeply in TL and did not find such matches. Instead, he played vs Solar (lost), Reality (won), Stork (won) and Armani (won). Jin Air did not play vs Samsung in playoff at all. And how was it possible to make a triple kill in any Round if a player plays only 1-2 games in that one Round?
Is that a mistake then or I looked somewhere wrong?
but also carried the team with two all kills against CJ and KT, taking the most wins for JA in the playoffs against nearly every team they went up against.
Yet one more mistake (?). sOs did not make all-kill vs CJ, he just won 2 times.
However, his playoff performance was strong, as he got a triple kill against Samsung in Round 3. 2015 SPL was his best showing as he put up the numbers during the regular rounds, but also carried the team with two all kills against CJ and KT, taking the most wins for JA in the playoffs against nearly every team they went up against.
I went deeply in TL and did not find such matches. Instead, he played vs Solar (lost), Reality (won), Stork (won) and Armani (won). Jin Air did not play vs Samsung in playoff at all. And how was it possible to make a triple kill in any Round if a player plays only 1-2 games in that one Round?
Is that a mistake then or I looked somewhere wrong?