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PepperMintTea
Profile Joined November 2015
187 Posts
November 29 2015 14:44 GMT
#121
On November 29 2015 23:41 MiCroLiFe wrote:
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On November 29 2015 23:34 PepperMintTea wrote:
On November 29 2015 23:33 MiCroLiFe wrote:
On November 26 2015 10:10 K)Vincent wrote:
i'll never understand about ppl complaining zerg being the op race when terran actually win 90% of tournaments with a lot of tvt finals lol... zerg can't be nerfed, otherwise no z will win a zvt anymore... I just think that they need to make a little buff to protoss and wait for zvt balance, even if its t favored at highest level, maybe z just need to find a way... I will only nerf the reaper bomb, 3 rax reaper into 3 cc openin actually too strong
are you kidding? its been ONE major tournament and bunny happy, didnt won a single tvz. 28% tvz winrate in dreamhack. and people like Ty + bomber didnt have a chance. Zerg are to strong at the moment in many aspects of the game. nudys all inn, ravager counters everything, ultralisk litterally unkillable ( ofc u can kill whit ghost whit new snipe but how fast can terran tech change compared to zerg?)

pleease link me ONE tournament where a terran beats a zerg. in a final.


Maru beat Soulkey in an olimo league final
i thoguht soulkey did comeback for like 1 week ago? ofc hes beaten. rusty as hell


well you asked for a final where Terran beat Zerg and there you go. It was a pretty good series ended 3-2 to Maru

MockHamill
Profile Joined March 2010
Sweden1798 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-11-29 14:47:33
November 29 2015 14:45 GMT
#122

Also important to note, something no one I've seen here point out, all of the foreign Terrans placed last in their group - except when there wasn't a foreign Terran or there was a foreign Terran beneath them.

The only Korean players who weren't able to place first in their group were TY and Bomber (TY placed 2nd and Bomber placed 3rd respectively).

There wasn't a single Terran made it past the round of 8, Korean or otherwise.

Not to mention that for anyone actually competent at the game can notice that the way the protoss or zerg were playing seemed extremely suboptimal in their XvT games. Yet they still dominate in XvT games.


I agree completely. Ultralisk armour, parasitic bomb, nydus and ravagers needs to be toned down. Adept needs to be toned down at least early game. For Ravagers I am not sure if they are too strong in general or if they just should be moved to Lair.
NKexquisite
Profile Joined January 2009
United States911 Posts
November 29 2015 15:42 GMT
#123
Doesn't Terran need the tank pick-up to have any chance at all vs Ravager rushes? You need something mobile enough to dodge the ridiculously powerful spell they have.
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MockHamill
Profile Joined March 2010
Sweden1798 Posts
November 29 2015 17:52 GMT
#124
On November 30 2015 00:42 NKexquisite wrote:
Doesn't Terran need the tank pick-up to have any chance at all vs Ravager rushes? You need something mobile enough to dodge the ridiculously powerful spell they have.


Tank pickup is actually quite bad vs Ravagers. The only counter at that time is banshees but typically you can only get a single banshee out against a fast Ravager rush. Which is one of the reasons why I think moving Ravagers to Lair would be a good idea.
TedCruz2016
Profile Joined November 2014
Hong Kong271 Posts
November 30 2015 06:25 GMT
#125
On November 30 2015 02:52 MockHamill wrote:
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On November 30 2015 00:42 NKexquisite wrote:
Doesn't Terran need the tank pick-up to have any chance at all vs Ravager rushes? You need something mobile enough to dodge the ridiculously powerful spell they have.


Tank pickup is actually quite bad vs Ravagers. The only counter at that time is banshees but typically you can only get a single banshee out against a fast Ravager rush. Which is one of the reasons why I think moving Ravagers to Lair would be a good idea.


Ravager should be correctly categorized as armored unit and its regular attack should be nerfed. Just make it a caster like high templar.
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PVJ
Profile Blog Joined July 2012
Hungary5221 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-12-02 23:20:10
December 02 2015 23:18 GMT
#126
I truly hope there were and will continue to be 3 60 minute long meetings each week about how to best address a bunker upgrade in terms of its impact on early TvT, endgame TvZ win rates and of course the "feel of the game" itself. It's probably the best moment to think about game design hard for a moment. The bunker upgrade.
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royalroadweed
Profile Joined April 2013
United States8301 Posts
December 03 2015 00:02 GMT
#127
I can't believe that parasitic bomb wasn't addressed. It stronger than its broodwar counterpart irradiate. That makes no sense given smart casting.
"Nerfing Toss can just make them stronger"
LessDuEt
Profile Joined August 2014
United States8 Posts
December 03 2015 00:05 GMT
#128
Yes, I am so glad we are finally talking about the bunker upgrade change to make LOTV more fun. I always thought that upgrade was a wasted one and rarely ever used. So some change to this would be great and would go a long way to fixing the major balance issues we are currently seeing in LOTV.
The sooner we can get the pros playing and testing this change, the better. Cant wait for those surprise bunker rushes and terrans holding the myriad of all in via the new bunker change...Cant wait!! Really excited for this bunker change guys!!
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spritzz
Profile Joined November 2009
Canada331 Posts
December 03 2015 00:19 GMT
#129
I'm not certain about numbers, but the easiest change for Parasitic Bomb is to mark the target red. It can be split from the group quicker if you have fast hands/reaction. Of course, a stack of mutas would be hard but larger objects like vray/carriers might be doable by even regular folks.
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cheekymonkey
Profile Joined January 2014
France1387 Posts
December 03 2015 01:15 GMT
#130
This bunker sarcasm is really beating a dead horse by now.
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