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caznitch
Canada645 Posts
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alexanderzero
United States659 Posts
Honestly, I'm probably going to watch the Korean stream exclusively next season. No offense intended, but the English casters don't add anything to my viewing experience. | ||
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pure.Wasted
Canada4701 Posts
 On October 13 2015 02:33 Incognoto wrote: To counteract this: These three casters are excellent and do a supremely professional job. they're AWESOME. tell them to keep it up they're very good at talking about the game, the players, at providing a comfortable atmosphere the comment i quoted makes no sense to me and i have never, ever found them unprofessional During the PL finals, while INno and sOs were getting ready to go, Wolf said (I paraphrase) "I don't think I've ever seen INnoVation win a game in which he was behind in the early game." Never mind how egregiously ill-conceived this statement is in general, as there is not a single pro on the planet about whom it's true. Literally the last time we saw INnoVation play was vs ByuL, and guess what, there was a game in that series where INno was significantly behind in the early game and came back and won it (Expedition Lost). So if Wolf could not remember ANY INnoVation games except literally the last series INno had played, on the biggest stage in the world, that would have been enough to disprove such a silly idea. | ||
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RHoudini
Belgium3627 Posts
Please continue your excellent work! | ||
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Vasoline73
United States7816 Posts
Standard PL format round Standard PL format round WL format round Standard PL format round Season Playoffs It's cool to see all the teams compete in a winners league round. | ||
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Larkin
United Kingdom7161 Posts
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DjKniteX
United States241 Posts
2v2 will be in the next one? | ||
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DreamPaint
United States1 Post
2. New PL maps 3. Incentives to switch up lineups. I want to see players like Trust, Guilty, Super, Zoun play occasionally. 4. Zoom in on the players during critical moments. It really increases the sense of urgency. 5. Revert to the 13-14 point system. SK Telecom being locked into the finals prior to round 4 made the final round incredibly boring. The 1 vs 4 and 2 v 3 bracket of the 13-14 season was much better. Waiting for months just to see who would play SKT in the finals severely decreased my interest in PL. | ||
The_Templar
your Country52797 Posts
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SetGuitarsToKill
Canada28396 Posts
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BLinD-RawR
ALLEYCAT BLUES50586 Posts
On October 13 2015 12:42 SetGuitarsToKill wrote: How about Proleague invents a new race and makes Starcraft 2 a 4 race game, and then forces 1/4 of players to play it! That would make things more interesting, and it's more realistic than Bo7 every happening! its not that unrealistic, your comment on the timeslot might be a concern if proleague was actually shown on TV, but if a tight schedule is a big problem, consider this, the average LOTV game is a shorter than the average HOTS game, rather than fill time with even longer breaks, might as well throw in 2 more games into the mix. On October 13 2015 10:02 alexanderzero wrote: English stream: Please mic the audience. It's almost impossible to hear the audience cheering on the English stream. I wouldn't mind if you could hear the korean casters in the background either because they add a lot of excitement. Honestly, I'm probably going to watch the Korean stream exclusively next season. No offense intended, but the English casters don't add anything to my viewing experience. watching korean stream is always an excellent choice. | ||
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Yakikorosu
1203 Posts
On October 13 2015 10:13 pure.Wasted wrote: Bo7 format, PL maps, health bars, and hopefully the issues with PartinG and the other players can be sorted out. During the PL finals, while INno and sOs were getting ready to go, Wolf said (I paraphrase) "I don't think I've ever seen INnoVation win a game in which he was behind in the early game." Never mind how egregiously ill-conceived this statement is in general, as there is not a single pro on the planet about whom it's true. Literally the last time we saw INnoVation play was vs ByuL, and guess what, there was a game in that series where INno was significantly behind in the early game and came back and won it (Expedition Lost). So if Wolf could not remember ANY INnoVation games except literally the last series INno had played, on the biggest stage in the world, that would have been enough to disprove such a silly idea. The English casting could be better but it's hardly something that desperately needs fixing. Yes, Wolf sometimes gets overexcited and says bizarre things that are just patently ridiculous (like him constantly insisting that ByuL is in a huge slump just because he hasn't won a finals, ignoring that ByuL has been clearly the best Zerg of 2015), but Moonglade helps keep it reasonable and honestly Brendan already knows more about SC2 than at least one very prominent SC2 caster I won't name. All I'll say about the casting is please make sure you keep Moonglade and have him casting as often as possible. He's a very good balance of analysis and color commentary. | ||
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Devolved
United States2753 Posts
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Devolved
United States2753 Posts
On October 13 2015 07:07 [PkF] Wire wrote: I agree with that analysis. You can't realistically expect players to practice for archon mode, standard play and individual leagues. The only interesting outcome would be B-teamers specializing in archon mode, but I doubt that would be the case. There were players that specialized in 2v2 when BW Proleague had it, so why not Archon mode. Makes sense to me. | ||
nimdil
Poland3751 Posts
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GreenMash
Norway1746 Posts
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kaby
Russian Federation195 Posts
2. i actually dislike the fact that the round playoffs system varies from the regular round system. it's quite obvious and historically proven that different teams are better in different formats (remember how CJ was shining though winners league rounds). so right now it's like teams are qualifying through the regular round to play the playoffs with the system that they actually not that good at, and vice sersa. this is why you're better to have a single format for a regular round and it's playoff (if it keeps on excisting) and bring back the winners league round or two. 3. it's greate to have a system of approvement of different language casters. the channels may be all gathered under the proleague tag on twitch, and casters may have to send stats on a regular basis. this can promote the league among the foreing fans, because ppl really need to know why proleague is awesome 1st to fall in love with it, while starcraft is not really a show where the interesting part is obvious for starting viewers. 4. replays after the season would be nice. also, back in good old days fp-vods was occasionally shared on youtube (with a delay of course), which was a cool thing imo. 5. probably you could start an additional show based on 'take comand' in replays. this format is here since it was introduced to the game, however, it still wasn't realised unless the rare exceptions. so what if casters invite players who try to replay some notable games from a turning points to finnish it with the different result. so viewers can better get into the game and understand the desicion making. | ||
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RHoudini
Belgium3627 Posts
On October 13 2015 13:50 Yakikorosu wrote: All I'll say about the casting is please make sure you keep Moonglade and have him casting as often as possible. He's a very good balance of analysis and color commentary. Indeed! Make sure to keep Moonglade, he significantly improves the other two casters. | ||
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Dumbledore
Sweden725 Posts
On October 13 2015 04:53 LongShot27 wrote: Kespa shop, let us buy jerseys, caps, team branded crap. Us losers will give you soooo much money Best suggestion so far. | ||
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Lappen.464
Germany42 Posts
It is for the best of all. The fans are happy and he brings more fans with him as viewers. Bo7 would be better. This would let us see more than just the same faces every time. Would like to see more foreigners. Difficult to manage after the egtl disaster. Best would be a quote of minimum 1 foreign player for each team or a foreigners united team with switching players. Both very unlikely to happen, but i would like it. Use of the Archon Mode. One game in Archon mode or the ace match in archon mode would be nice. Btw: Great to see you asking for feedback. | ||
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