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Antonidas
Profile Joined August 2014
United States105 Posts
October 12 2015 19:49 GMT
#141
Perhaps posting the highlights on video as well as written form would allow people to learn about the game easier. The mistakes, brilliant calls, etc.
as long as there is Starcraft, life is good *insert propaganda here*
LongShot27
Profile Joined May 2013
United States2084 Posts
October 12 2015 19:53 GMT
#142
Kespa shop, let us buy jerseys, caps, team branded crap. Us losers will give you soooo much money
If all men were created equal there would be no reason to declare it.
Shinespark
Profile Joined June 2011
Chile843 Posts
October 12 2015 20:05 GMT
#143
I'd like to reiterate that we all think having a team that's basically a free win for everyone is a disgrace. Prime is one of the oldest teams on SC2 and we love them, but they need to either get replaced or get rescued. They need help. They need more players of decent caliber, because showing up to lose 0-3 to every single team, every single round is unacceptable.
"I, for one, welcome our new Korean overlords."
sc2chronic
Profile Joined May 2012
United States777 Posts
October 12 2015 20:30 GMT
#144
please make sure that there are enough mics for the english stream casters before the grand finals of PL
terrible, terrible, damage
andrewlt
Profile Joined August 2009
United States7702 Posts
October 12 2015 20:35 GMT
#145
Going to give one more vote for Bo7 with the Proleague format. It's more interesting because teams need to field more players and thus need to get wins from their bench players. That time in BW where Proleague switched to Bo7 was what gave players like Rain and soO their chance to shine. They were always behind Bisu, Fantasy and Best before that time and look where they are now.

And need more original Proleague maps. You don't give WCS points anyway so no need to only play on Blizzard maps.
TW
Profile Joined March 2012
Poland255 Posts
October 12 2015 20:46 GMT
#146
All-kill format please, not only during playoffs.
RoninKenshin
Profile Joined November 2010
Canada97 Posts
October 12 2015 20:51 GMT
#147
Best of 5 is SO BORING. The same players and matches over and over and over, and the inability for teams to use their deep rosters or any line-up strategics.

Please bring back Bo7!
I'm with e-sports
SetGuitarsToKill
Profile Blog Joined December 2013
Canada28396 Posts
October 12 2015 21:29 GMT
#148
I believe they said in the past that Bo7 is impossible due to Korean TV schedules. Stop saying Bo7 guys! It's not gonna happen!
Community News"As long as you have a warp prism you can't be bad at harassment" - Maru | @SetGuitars2Kill
Trfel
Profile Joined August 2011
7015 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-10-12 21:32:09
October 12 2015 21:29 GMT
#149
Would really appreciate Best of 7.

Edit: Somewhat more seriously, I'd rather see Best of 7 with only one series per night or somehow reducing the down time (extra warmup computers for the players maybe, though I'm not sure how that would affect other things).
str10_hurts
Profile Joined December 2011
Netherlands12 Posts
October 12 2015 21:29 GMT
#150
On October 13 2015 04:46 LongShot27 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 13 2015 04:40 str10_hurts wrote:
I don't know if this has been posted but:

Ace match - Archon mode

I would go through the roof!


that would be awful

How?

I would think archon mode would represent the team better. The best macro and best micro combined.
Or do you think it will devolve in a cheese fest or don't you like the concept of archon in proleague?
Yakikorosu
Profile Joined March 2013
1203 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-10-12 21:32:33
October 12 2015 21:30 GMT
#151
As various people have mentioned Bo7 would be nice (I realize that SPL intentionally switched to Bo5 because Bo7 series were perceived as taking too long), more all-kill format would be nice (how about a particular round that's all all-kill).

Some other ideas:

* The biggest issue I see in SPL now is that because there are only 4 playoff spots and there are 4 top teams in CJ, Jin Air KT and SKT, it's rare to see anyone else make playoffs. This year out of a total of 20 playoff spots, 18 were taken by those 4 teams. How about adding an extra round to the playoffs so that the top 5 teams make it. This will give the 5th place team a chance to advance on if they can win one all-kill match. Teams like MVP, Samsung or SBENU have strong players on them that could win multiple games in all-kill format and create an upset that is much more unlikely in Proleague format. We saw back in 2014 with MVP how an underdog team can accomplish miracles in all-kill format if they just make it that far. I do realize though this would cause only 3 teams each season to miss the playoffs but maybe that's not so bad.

* Add another round to the regular season; i.e., have 5 rounds before the season playoffs, that way SPL can last all year.

* I said it last year but I'd love for teams to have some incentive not to send out the same players over and over and over. I'd love to see some lesser-known players come out occasionally. I realize this can backfire because the players that get sent out over and over and over are popular players, so maybe Bo7 is the only realistic way to accomplish this.
brickrd
Profile Blog Joined March 2014
United States4894 Posts
October 12 2015 21:42 GMT
#152
i don't agree with archon in pro matches because it takes something away from the experience. watching MC and huk play together is fun, but you don't know who is making a good play or a big mistake, so ultimately there's something missing. if i'm watching maru vs life i know who i'm watching and i understand their playstyle.

i think people will get bored of archon the more they see it, and i think it's better suited to ladder and casual play than to professional play.
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[PkF] Wire
Profile Joined March 2013
France24239 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-10-12 21:59:39
October 12 2015 21:58 GMT
#153
Just keep up like that. I love Proleague, amazing moments all year long. Long live Proleague.

EDIT : but I agree with the bo7 request.
Elentos
Profile Blog Joined February 2015
55586 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-10-12 22:04:14
October 12 2015 22:03 GMT
#154
On October 13 2015 06:29 str10_hurts wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 13 2015 04:46 LongShot27 wrote:
On October 13 2015 04:40 str10_hurts wrote:
I don't know if this has been posted but:

Ace match - Archon mode

I would go through the roof!


that would be awful

How?

I would think archon mode would represent the team better. The best macro and best micro combined.
Or do you think it will devolve in a cheese fest or don't you like the concept of archon in proleague?

My 2 cents on this: I feel like if you want to have your archon harmonise to the point they can be reliably sent into an ace match in Proleague, you have to give them a ton of practice time dedicated to that aspect specifically, and preferably for all 3 races. Those who'd ordinarily be the ace player(s) would have to cut into their practice for their 1v1 to get perfect archon synergy (at least at the start of things). Seems like an unreasonable amount of work, tbh.
Every 60 seconds in Africa, a minute passes.
[PkF] Wire
Profile Joined March 2013
France24239 Posts
October 12 2015 22:07 GMT
#155
On October 13 2015 07:03 Elentos wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 13 2015 06:29 str10_hurts wrote:
On October 13 2015 04:46 LongShot27 wrote:
On October 13 2015 04:40 str10_hurts wrote:
I don't know if this has been posted but:

Ace match - Archon mode

I would go through the roof!


that would be awful

How?

I would think archon mode would represent the team better. The best macro and best micro combined.
Or do you think it will devolve in a cheese fest or don't you like the concept of archon in proleague?

My 2 cents on this: I feel like if you want to have your archon harmonise to the point they can be reliably sent into an ace match in Proleague, you have to give them a ton of practice time dedicated to that aspect specifically, and preferably for all 3 races. Those who'd ordinarily be the ace player(s) would have to cut into their practice for their 1v1 to get perfect archon synergy (at least at the start of things). Seems like an unreasonable amount of work, tbh.

I agree with that analysis. You can't realistically expect players to practice for archon mode, standard play and individual leagues. The only interesting outcome would be B-teamers specializing in archon mode, but I doubt that would be the case.
iMrising
Profile Blog Joined March 2012
United States1099 Posts
October 12 2015 22:08 GMT
#156
Oh shoot I almost forgot: MIND MIND MIND
$O$ | soO
Starecat
Profile Joined August 2014
941 Posts
October 12 2015 23:20 GMT
#157
Buy more mics what occurred on the finals was unforgivable, and Spotv screwed the english sound twice on those super big events by having loud music making impossible to hear the casters.
:3
nachtkap
Profile Joined February 2011
Germany197 Posts
October 12 2015 23:21 GMT
#158
the all-kill format is fun to watch if it isnt the format all the time. I'd like to have maybe double to the amount of all-kill but with more matches (bo11/13) needed for a win. I'd also like to see some of the maps that where considered 'balanced' in their day, to see what new meta does to old maps. <3 nostalgia.
more stuff that talks about the game/play style/race match up. maybe in depth opinions about how the (korean) casters arrived at their prediction who will win the match. maybe predictions by the day's MVP (and his coach?) on who will win the next day's matches. maybe the best sign gets to ask the MVP a question.

basically a bit more variety and fluff.
Pugfarmer
Profile Joined April 2014
70 Posts
October 12 2015 23:24 GMT
#159
No all kill. Keep format but bo7. All kill takes away depth and will restrict number of players we see. I agree it kinda sucks that a couple of team have most of the good players but I don't see an obvious solution except increased sponsorship.
The_Templar
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
your Country52798 Posts
October 12 2015 23:47 GMT
#160
On October 13 2015 08:24 Pugfarmer wrote:
No all kill. Keep format but bo7. All kill takes away depth and will restrict number of players we see. I agree it kinda sucks that a couple of team have most of the good players but I don't see an obvious solution except increased sponsorship.

If we keep the format and add Bo7 the number of players we'll see on non-allkill rounds will be higher anyway, so why not have 1-2 allkill rounds?
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