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2015 StarCraft II Proleague Feedback - Page 2

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iMrising
Profile Blog Joined March 2012
United States1099 Posts
October 12 2015 08:31 GMT
#21
Things I like:
Caster Predictions
Production Quality

Things I wish could happen:
BO7
10Q, 10A with English Translations. They gave players so much more personality
Encourage more ceremonies!
More map variety (which to be fair, is pretty good for proleague but can be taken up a notch)

I'm not sure about the all-kill format. I think if it happens, it can be like a 1 week/round thing. I prefer regular proleague format but some variety would be nice.
$O$ | soO
Pandemona *
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Charlie Sheens House51493 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-10-12 08:38:58
October 12 2015 08:34 GMT
#22
I would love for teams to be more balanced. In terms of who plays on who and how many players are allowed in a squad. Instead of (using as an example) SKT T1 having 10 players and we only see 7 of them during the season. How about we put a limit on a squad size. Squad limit is 8 players for example and that helps all teams getting a fair shout at the market of talent out there. No one wants a Prime team in a league getting beat every round going 0W 6L that isn't fun and isn't entertaining.

If you want the PL to be the English Version of the premier league as it always has been compared to in Korea, then you need to start extending the quality through out all the teams who compete. If Prime had a few more players and made itself more competitive, last season would have been pretty good if you trimmed SKT T1 down a peg. We had KT finishing outside play offs in a round, CJ winning a round etcetc. Even a SBENU reaching play offs for end of round.

So that is my only negative criticism of Pro League. Other than no structure in terms of Squad Size and competitiveness from top to bottom there is nothing else i can critique, it is perfect.

Thank you, and good luck in 2016
ModeratorTeam Liquid Football Thread Guru! - Chelsea FC ♥
bduddy
Profile Joined May 2012
United States1326 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-10-12 08:44:31
October 12 2015 08:36 GMT
#23
On October 12 2015 16:46 Chuddinater wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 12 2015 16:44 ZAiNs wrote:
PLEASE bring back the game timer. It really makes proleague, the highest level of SC2 in the world, much worse to watch.

Unfortunately we removed the game timer to stop some types of e-Sports gambling.
I get that spot-fixing is a thing, but I honestly don't understand how removing the game timer fixes that. It's not like gamblers don't have stopwatches - hell, in the US, people bet on the length of the Super Bowl national anthem, and I'm pretty sure that's not officially timed.

But more importantly, I definitely have to add on to the requests for 10Q10A, or some kind of similar non-game content. Getting to know the players is crucial, and of course there should be some fun to go along with it.
>Liquid'Nazgul: Of course you are completely right
karl1ok
Profile Joined December 2014
Norway85 Posts
October 12 2015 08:42 GMT
#24
First off: this season was great!

Secons, now that the next season will be on Legacy of the Void, please consider using Archon mode like when you had 2v2 in BW. That would make it very easy to expand to a bo7 from the current bo5. Keep the current PL format in the regular seasons, or maybe have one of 7 weeks and all-kill week.

However I'd like if you had more content for the viewers online, considering we are the majority of the viewers. English texting on the videos and more interractions with the progamers would be fun.

Thanks for this year and good luck with the next one
sOs | soO | Snute | MC, farewell sweet prince | Solar | Patience | ForGG | Stardust
bluesky42
Profile Joined July 2013
Czech Republic5 Posts
October 12 2015 08:46 GMT
#25
All kill bo7 format with some refreshing original maps (to disrupt Ace players with some special little bit cheesy builds by a weaker players)
And thank you for whole thing, good luck have fun in the future : )
boxerfred
Profile Blog Joined December 2012
Germany8360 Posts
October 12 2015 08:57 GMT
#26
Please do more PoV shots during engagements!
VoidReyes
Profile Joined October 2013
Philippines2 Posts
October 12 2015 08:57 GMT
#27
Archon Mode for Ace Match, maybe? Everyone at KeSPA did great, by the. Congratulations to everyone, from the staffs and teams. ^_^
A_Scarecrow
Profile Joined March 2013
Australia721 Posts
October 12 2015 08:57 GMT
#28
bo7 would be great. also what about running an up and coming team league online cup so teams that are not well known can get recognised and maybe a small prize and a invite to the proleague next season?
pretender58
Profile Joined August 2013
Germany713 Posts
October 12 2015 08:57 GMT
#29
I would enjoy some more content for the english audience during the breaks, e.g. interviews (even subtitling the current videos would help).

Other than that, production was sublime, keep up the good work (and maybe include Archon for LotV)
REyeM
Profile Joined August 2014
2674 Posts
October 12 2015 09:08 GMT
#30
This season was great, lot of improvements from last year. Quality of youtube stream is simply amazing, few suggestions:

1.) Bo7 format
2.) KeSPA maps (Like Outboxer)
3.) Special in between rounds fun events

And definitely NO archon mode or some other weird stuff in regular league wth people
S4 Arrows, never forget. RIP Woongjin Stars.
Niko_Thien
Profile Joined September 2011
Germany2671 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-10-12 09:13:29
October 12 2015 09:13 GMT
#31
I absolutely loved last season of Proleague. Sadly I cannot watch anything live, cuz I have to work during the work. At least one day of Broadcast on Saturday or Sunday would make me incredibly happy.

Got a few minor things I'd like/ love to see:

1. Plz consider using the Gameheart UI, to me it is far superior to all the other Observer-UIs.
2. If it is possible, some more tricasts on the english stream.
3. Bo7 has more depth, so that would be awesome.
4. Own maps. Loved the first Proleague SC2 season with your custom maps, would be cool to see some more in the future.
@Niko_Thien on twitter!
Shuffleblade
Profile Joined February 2012
Sweden1903 Posts
October 12 2015 09:16 GMT
#32
First off this season of PL was great, I really love the competition and tension between the teams.

On the English stream it has been mostly good this year, barring problems with mics and missing observing PC for the casters on occasion. The casters are great, the quality is good and the games are fun.

As for possible improvements I would say the roosters and lineups of the teams are the main thing that could be improved upon. I understand that's not things you guys normally meddle with but somethings you do have the power to alter.
I'm talking about things like Prime -_- their games were rarely exciting and always a letdown. That kind of bottomfeeder really drops the overall tension and excitement for PL.
Also varying players so that we get to see new talent or less known players would be great. BO7 would help with this, alternatively giving the teams some other incitement to not play the same 4 players over and over. Core 3 players is fine, even 4 core as long as you mix it up once in a while.
We want to see top SC2 action but we also enjoy seeing new players enter the scene.
Maru, Bomber, TY, Dear, Classic, DeParture and Rogue!
boxerfred
Profile Blog Joined December 2012
Germany8360 Posts
October 12 2015 09:18 GMT
#33
Also I wish Apollo would cast SPL. I know, not gonna happen.
gdarky
Profile Joined August 2014
Latvia78 Posts
October 12 2015 09:20 GMT
#34
On October 12 2015 17:34 Pandemona wrote:
I would love for teams to be more balanced. In terms of who plays on who and how many players are allowed in a squad. Instead of (using as an example) SKT T1 having 10 players and we only see 7 of them during the season. How about we put a limit on a squad size. Squad limit is 8 players for example and that helps all teams getting a fair shout at the market of talent out there. No one wants a Prime team in a league getting beat every round going 0W 6L that isn't fun and isn't entertaining.

Thank you, and good luck in 2016


I think it's not about Proleague, it's team problem. If Proleague will make teams 8-max, it isn't help Prime to get 8 good players, just make top teams life harder. They give a chance to 2 more players and after this limit they will not do it.

If we want more competition, we need to change finance model of the teams. Look how NBA is working.
1998-2003 ex-sc player under nickname SoL.Dark.wS
shortistuff
Profile Joined December 2013
Australia14 Posts
October 12 2015 09:21 GMT
#35
Bo7 during the regular season would be amazing, best of 9 Grand final would be awesome but pushing it

Adding another round instead of end of round finals would also be cool, especially if it was a special round like all kill format.

Everything else was spot on :D
Jj_82
Profile Joined December 2012
Swaziland419 Posts
October 12 2015 09:22 GMT
#36
Just want to add that Proleague is really my favourite league of StarCraft!! Feedback: basically what the others said.
Once rode a waterslide with PartinG and TaeJa ✌
Pandemona *
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Charlie Sheens House51493 Posts
October 12 2015 09:25 GMT
#37
On October 12 2015 18:20 gdarky wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 12 2015 17:34 Pandemona wrote:
I would love for teams to be more balanced. In terms of who plays on who and how many players are allowed in a squad. Instead of (using as an example) SKT T1 having 10 players and we only see 7 of them during the season. How about we put a limit on a squad size. Squad limit is 8 players for example and that helps all teams getting a fair shout at the market of talent out there. No one wants a Prime team in a league getting beat every round going 0W 6L that isn't fun and isn't entertaining.

Thank you, and good luck in 2016


I think it's not about Proleague, it's team problem. If Proleague will make teams 8-max, it isn't help Prime to get 8 good players, just make top teams life harder. They give a chance to 2 more players and after this limit they will not do it.

If we want more competition, we need to change finance model of the teams. Look how NBA is working.

It will mean more pro gamers "available" in the market? If SKT had to chop 2 of their players, 2 players become available for Prime to take etc? Pretty sure likes of Impact are not going to be paid any differently to the likes of Creator etc so i can't see a money issue anywhere.

Prime aren't the most funded team in the league i know but im sure they can afford to pay for a team of 8 players if they had the opportunity too. See when they got Myungsik etc, but he left for Sbenu later on due to issues i don't know the guy is strange xD
ModeratorTeam Liquid Football Thread Guru! - Chelsea FC ♥
Jinsiik
Profile Joined January 2015
15 Posts
October 12 2015 09:26 GMT
#38
Production was mediocre this year:
- terrible proleague intro, it was worse than last years one
- graphical layout felt mediocre, was worse than gsl's one , although gsl's one has gotten better
- stage lights didnt feel as cool as it did on OGN where spotvgames would just literally make it cycle through the lights

As for the Finals:
- Ive no idea why there was a sudden change in music backgrounds , felt like keeping it consistent would have been better.
- video intros of the players, super bright colours on a greyscale of the team really looks horrific in a design point of view.

Other than that, awesome job for this years proleague! Cant wait for next years one!
Lambertus
Profile Joined February 2010
South Africa977 Posts
October 12 2015 09:27 GMT
#39
The season was great! Thank you so much for that!

I also would like to say that the english stream is wonderful, please keep it!

If somehow possible, more of your own maps would be super cool

All the best and keep it up!
The only known Reverend on TL playing SC2 and BW (http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=409226)
Jeyopo
Profile Joined November 2012
France35 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-10-12 09:30:36
October 12 2015 09:28 GMT
#40
Thanks for Proleague, best competition so far for me.
The production of this season was great but just one thing, I think you can improve the introduction before games.
Instead of simple pictures of players, you can make a little movie like you did in 12-13 season or like OGN & MBC did before


I really like the return of players song too.
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