Foreigner's Union for the Courteous Treatment of Unhappy Players, or FUCTUP for short, is an initiative by the foreign community of amateur and pro players alike to reduce the number of poorly run and poorly scheduled tournaments as well as to reduce the number of issues and conflicts between players and organizers pre- and post- tournament.
Numerous players have suffered from issues such as tournament organizers rescheduling tournaments on short notice, shifting players between groups as well as redrawing groups altogether, and failing to pay their prize pool in a timely manner. These issues as well as many others result in sacrificing players' sleep schedules, physical health, and, in many cases, mental health in order to provide entertainment to the viewers and appease our beloved tournament organizers.
Thus, as a response to these issues and in an attempt to minimize their occurrences, I have created this union.
Players
Kane Huk Lilbow TLStuchiu NinjaBLT Nathanias Many more!
Foreigner’s Union for the Courteous Treatment of Unhappy Players
Not only is FUCTUP a union of players, I have also created a system to create consequences for organizers that consistently disappoint us.
-Organizer receives a strike when they start a tournament 10 minutes late. For every 5 minutes thereafter that the tournament is delayed, the organizer shall receive an additional strike.
-Organizer receives a single strike if they reschedule a tournament altogether only if it is done prior to 24 hours when the tournament was scheduled to begin. If the organizer does not provide at least 24 hours notice, they shall receive 2 strikes.
-If any issues arise during the tournament, the organizer shall receive a strike depending on the severity of the issue (This involves redrawing of groups, failing to disqualify any maphackers, and failing to adequately communicate with the player).
-After 5 strikes, the organizer shall be removed from the "Nice" list and instead placed into the "Naughty" list.
-Strikes never expire, but they can be removed from the organizer's record with good behavior and performing good deeds in the community (see Ensuring Equality and Fairness).
The purpose of this union is to create a system in which organizers are punished for their repeated incompetence. While I and the other players that are part of this union are saddened that we have had to create such a system, we believe that it is fair and necessary at this point in our somewhat fragile careers.
There have been numerous cases of players sacrificing their well being in order to compensate for an organizer’s incompetency (i.e. Idra). The amount of sleep we have lost and the amount of stress organizers have caused the foreign community is no laughing matter. Some players are unable to buy groceries to last the month because of late payouts from tournament organizers and this is absolutely unacceptable.
Ensuring Equality and Fairness
FUCTUP realizes that the system we are putting in place is a harsh one at times. Therefore, we have created a strike council from neutral members of the community in order to judge whether or not the strikes placed upon organizers are fairly delivered. The council will consist of the following members:
-Aldaris
-Simon Boudreault
-WinterStarcraft
In addition, the members of the council will also decide whether strikes will be removed from an organizer's record depending on the good deeds they have performed in recent times.
Q/A
How do I join FUCTUP? Retweet this tweet and I will add you to the group:
What if the organizer has a valid reason for his/her incompetency? That’s what the strike council is in place for, and we believe that they will do a great job of enforcing a strict moral code.
By all means, all people should be held accountable, no matter what role they have in the scene. If there's a meaningful method to name and shame (I'm not sure what kind of penalty could be given) those who screw players over, then I'm all for it existing right alongside Feardragon's new regulatory committee.
On July 27 2015 08:02 ZeromuS wrote: The council members really got me LOL
Though i do agree. If the organisers are putting ruleson players those tournaments also need to meet a set of requirements on their end.
On July 27 2015 08:08 Circumstance wrote: By all means, all people should be held accountable, no matter what role they have in the scene. If there's a meaningful method to name and shame (I'm not sure what kind of penalty could be given) those who screw players over, then I'm all for it existing right alongside Feardragon's new regulatory committee.
TOA are dead serious in their attempt to make the scene better.
FUCTUP is a parody.
If only this was as well prepared and with the same good intentions as TOA, this would be great. As of now this just hurts it's own case, Imho. "Oh I can't behave like an inresponsible noshow any more? I'll just blame someone else for something else". Instead, take responsibility, and be serious in your demands to tournament organizers.
Whether or not this is an actual thing or just satire, I have always been super weirded out by stories of late or non payment of prizemoney. And then a year later someone decides to tweet about it, but most people just keep silent for a very long time. It's not ok and people should stop giving these organisations so much slack.
The other points are pretty decent as well I think. Especially with starting a tournament late, viewers are affected by this shit too.
Ofc you can't actually do much about it except name and shame, but I think that should be enough to inject some manners into these organisations and restart their innovation and quality control.
I wish it was serious, but I don't believe so. It'd be nice to have something like this in place, if only to name names, but I think Kane's just havin' fun.
Hey, maybe this'll actually spur discussion towards creating a real version of this. That'd be neat.
While I find this very funny (especially the jury list), I can't stop thinking this was a real opportunity for the players to fight together against the late payments and this kind of stuff. If you could redo this seriously, it would actually be a great thing.
On July 27 2015 09:38 Boucot wrote: While I find this very funny (especially the jury list), I can't stop thinking this was a real opportunity for the players to fight together against the late payments and this kind of stuff. If you could redo this seriously, it would actually be a great thing.
I agree,
I would encourage anyone that thinks they can represent players in an independent and professional manner to try and actually start this up.
I mean, Richard Lewis has been talking about this forever (e.g. here )
I would feel inclined to do this in a minimalistic manner if I wasn't too biased (due to my involvement with Basetradetv), but I'm available to help out in any kind of way.
Even though this is satirical, I think that tournaments should be held accountable for late starts and late payouts and players should call out organizations for late payouts.... Put them into the light so the community can shun them too..
On July 27 2015 11:15 Finalmastery wrote: Even though this is satirical, I think that tournaments should be held accountable for late starts and late payouts and players should call out organizations for late payouts.... Put them into the light so the community can shun them too..
Late starts are on of the reasons for TOA (not that every late start is due to a late player).
As a former union steward I do think players would do well to have an association.
This is pretty comedic, but I know from Kane's history that he's at least partially serious about this subject. Some foreign Sc2 players don't seem to understand that this game doesn't generate any real revenue for tournament organizers, and that they are dedicating large amounts of their time to provide entertainment to Starcraft II fans and providing a way for foreign players to make a little bit of money (by providing part of the product). Tournament organizers have very little, no, or negative monetary benefits by putting on tournaments. If BasetradeTV, Lycan, Oli, and others stopped organizing tournaments, foreign players would have no supplemental income. Korean Starcraft II players seem to be more appreciative of the tournaments and online cups put on outside of the WCS system, and are playing on odd schedules to participate without raising any fanfare. I think foreign players should be thankful that someone wants to organize money tournaments for B or lower tier play (save Snute, Bunny, Lilbow), because apart from the aforementioned foreign torcholders, few would have even a modest chance of making it through Code A qualifiers.
Hahaha. I like TOA. Sure being a pro these days isn't exactly easy with fewer teams and lower salaries, but it really shouldn't be a problem for anyone as long as you show up for whatever you sign up for. Which you should do anyway.
Hey guys, just thought I'd let you know that ESL is very close to earning a strike tomorrow for late payment to players. They are well on their way to being put on the naughty list! Let's just hope their broadcast starts on time today.
On July 27 2015 23:40 mYiKane wrote: Hey guys, just thought I'd let you know that ESL is very close to earning a strike tomorrow for late payment to players. They are well on their way to being put on the naughty list! Let's just hope their broadcast starts on time today.
So, if the broadcast is late because a player is late would ESL earn a demerit too? Probably easiest if tournament broadcast delays be left to the "Fiewers" to punish. :D
On July 27 2015 23:40 mYiKane wrote: Hey guys, just thought I'd let you know that ESL is very close to earning a strike tomorrow for late payment to players. They are well on their way to being put on the naughty list! Let's just hope their broadcast starts on time today.
I'm just curious, how much time has passed? If you can't say this directly then :
Is it longer or shorter then 2 months after winning date? I remember from long ago that we had to wait literally a year+ for our winnings, eventhough it were much much smaller amounts (ESL). 2 months is a fair term for a prize payout.
On July 27 2015 23:40 mYiKane wrote: Hey guys, just thought I'd let you know that ESL is very close to earning a strike tomorrow for late payment to players. They are well on their way to being put on the naughty list! Let's just hope their broadcast starts on time today.
I'm just curious, how much time has passed? If you can't say this directly then :
Is it longer or shorter then 2 months after winning date? I remember from long ago that we had to wait literally a year+ for our winnings, eventhough it were much much smaller amounts (ESL). 2 months is a fair term for a prize payout.
30 days, according to the WCS handbook players will be paid 30 days after the tournament concludes and after the proper paperwork has been submitted. Proper paperwork has been submitted for many of the players already.
On July 27 2015 23:49 Ragnarork wrote: How comes that Aeromi is not already a part of this?
I have decided to be neutral about The Organizer's Alliance Against Absent Athletes and Foreigner's Union for the Courteous Treatment of Unhappy Players.
On July 27 2015 23:49 Ragnarork wrote: How comes that Aeromi is not already a part of this?
I have decided to be neutral about The Organizer's Alliance Against Absent Athletes and Foreigner's Union for the Courteous Treatment of Unhappy Players.
There's no side in the fight against the lack of professionalism.
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